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>decide to distrohop to a gnome distro because with my logic if it has the fewest features it has the least amount of technical debt so should be the most polished
>glitches within 15 minutes of using it
>broken themes and title bars for non gtk 4 apps
>5 second delay for sound to start playing from displayport
>this is major compared to my kde experience
wtf. Usecase for a working desktop?
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>gnome distro
>retard thinks you need to change distro to change the DE
the state of /g/. you also think that distros support only these DEs they have ISOs for?
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>>broken themes and title bars for non gtk 4 apps
What do you mean? GTK3 themes work just fine.
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>>106645604
This
>>106645586
I use Linux for its customization prowess, and gnome is literally the antithesis of that. Anything you change has to be through extensions. Even winglows has more customizability than this retarded desktop environment. Gnome is so beautiful though when you use strictly gtk 4 apps, so sometimes it's like a moth to a flame.
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>>106645586
I tried to give gnome a chance, I really did. But it is by far the worst DE ever.
It's the flagship DE yet it's missing basic functionality like a minimize button.
It's bloated af and yet still lacks any and all features expected in a DE.
Plus the whole "please don't theme our DE" fiasco makes the whole project nothing more than a joke. Why does anyone throw money into this shitty project is beyond me.
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>>106646297
>It's the flagship DE yet it's missing basic functionality like a minimize button.
This is a moronic criticism, and I'm saying this as someone who hates GNOME even more than you do. "This DE is bad because I don't know how to use it properly" is not a valid point.
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>>106646270
>>106646297
kope
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>>106645586
Everyone knows you are lying.
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>>106646721
You are the guy who recommended Reawaita?
If so, thank you; it looks sick!
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>>106646634
>This is a moronic criticism
No it isn't, I still use gnome to this day and I know the hotkey super+h.
But the point of the criticism, which went over your 2 digit iq head, was that: a flagship DE used by most distros that are purportedly beginner friendly reinventing the wheel; is what's really moronic.
People coming to linux from literally any other OS will have problem with basic functionalities because gnome has to be some barebones, bloated snowflake. Windows, chromeOS, macOS, and every other DE in existence has the window buttons to minimize and maximize, gnome deciding go do away with them is utterly retarded.

>>106646721
>non-argument
kys footfag
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cosmic is still in beta and it's already less buggy and more functional than this shit.
can't wait for cosmic to fully release and shit all over gnome fags.
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>>106645586
Gnome is intended for headless machines.
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>>106646721
You the guy who recommended Reawaita?
If so fuck you, it doesn't work on my machine >;(
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>>106647392
hi mmstick
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>>106645586
Emacs is what GNU's true equivalent to KDE is.
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I never used anything but xfce.
It just works well enough to not be a bother so i never tried anything else.
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>>106647384
Yep, your entire reply just proved you don't know how to use it properly. You're trying to use GNOME like an inferior version of a floating window manager. Instead you are supposed to use the virtual desktops (workspaces) which makes minimising a window completely unnecessary. Again, there are valid reasons to hate GNOME, but a lot of the hatred is just based on ignorance from people like you.

I also disagree with your point that a desktop environment for beginner Linux users should be as close to Windows as possible. This exact mindset is what leads to people trying out shitty distros like Linux Mint, only to conclude that Linux is just an inferior version of Windows - because that's exactly what the Windows-imitator distros are. Instead, desktop environments should be about showing new users why Linux is better, and that includes the use of better systems for managing your desktop, such as the use of virtual desktops.
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What's broken about this title bar?
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>>106648193
I never said anything should be as close to windows as possible you're making assumptions and responding to them.
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>>106648246
You said it should be similar to Windows, chromeOS and macOS. I cut out the last two examples for brevity, but otherwise I was more or less directly quoting you.

Do you have nothing to say in response? It seems like you have already conceded defeat.
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>>106648270
I didn't say anything like that, I didn't even use the word "similar". But keep trying to find a way to misconstrue what I said to your weird ass assumptions.
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>>106648296
So all you can do is nitpick my choice of words.

I accept your concession.
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>>106648309
>I accept your concession
lmao sure retard. Your DE is trash and cosmic will kill it.
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>>106648331
Ironic since you claimed you still use GNOME, yet I don't.
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All I want is GNOME adapted to a traditional desktop metaphor without precarious plugins.
Cinnamon kind of does that, but it's hopelessly outdated and still can't do Wayland, something GNOME could nine years ago.
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>>106648403
>without precarious plugins
Dash to Panel has yet to ever break on me, it's pretty much a more extensible Cinnamon at that point.
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>>106649049
What other extensions do you recommend? A Cinnamon-like start menu and alt-tab that doesn't group applications would be neat.
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>>106649087
What you're looking for is ArcMenu
>alt-tab that doesn't group applications
You can change that in the keyboard shortcuts settings. Don't remember what it's named but it's something like Super + Tab, just bind it to Alt + Tab. That's always the first thing I do on GNOME, it's a retarded choice.
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>>106646767
>Reawaita
What is this? I can't find anything on google.
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I think the main issue with Gnome is that it's being marketed(both by the devs and the community) as some sort of generalist beginner friendly DE aimed at everyone. While in reality it should be treated more as a niche operating environment aimed at a small subset of users, similar to a tiling VM.
Just as if you don't want tiling windows there's no point in using Hyprland, If you don't like the super specialized workflow Gnome offers, there's no point in using it. No matter how many extensions you throw at it.

Which is a shame because I genuinely love the look and consistency of Gnome. I think GTK4/Libadwaita has the best looking UI out of any modern DE. Linux or otherwise.
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>>106649110
Typo, it's Rewaita https://github.com/SwordPuffin/Rewaita/
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>>106646270
>"""customization"""
How do I change the file picker?
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People here only hate GNOME because it stops them from tinkertrannying lmao



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