Why did Windows Phone and Zune flop?
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>>106650218Windows Phone was fairly decent, but only a market share of two percent, and no one bothered developing apps.I owned a Lumia and I honestly think it was a great phone, but I had to switch because it didn't have support for apps that I needed for daily use.
>>106650218Carriers wasted tons of money preparing for MeeGo, which was made stillborn in favor of the move to WP. Carriers got pissed, saw they couldn't trust a Nokia led by a Microsoft trojan, and put all their weight behind Android instead.
kind of a shame, it ran really well on low-end devices, and metro UI wasn't bad (on a phone)
weird interface, no apps
>>106650218>Windows PhoneMicrosofts shit tier me-too appstore and sdk was literally 2-3 generations behind apple and ios. You couldn't make money there and everything was shit.
>>106650218>ZuneToo late after the iPhone blew the market out.>Windows PhoneTypical MS shitty software on alright hardware.>>106650325There's a Metro Launcher for Android, but I didn't care for it too much: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tuzkituan.metrov
>>106650218it didnt flopit was actually a superior productbut microsoft decided not to continue betting on the product as they lacked the will to implement a proper app store
>>106650218Microsoft should have went all-out on paying developers to make WP versions of their apps. Give app payments on the Windows Phone Store a lower commission fee compared to Apple's 30% to attract more developers.
>>106650224This is by far the most commonly parroted answer, but it is almost completely wrong or at least misses the real answer by so far as to be misleading.>>106650218Real answer? Reason #1. Because Apple and Samsung already had massive deals with all the phone carriers for optimal placement in every single store and kiosk across the country.The sales reps pushed iPhone and Samsung Galaxy because they got higher commission per sale. This led to windows phone having miniscule market penetration, giving low incentive to develop apps.Reason #2.Microsoft completely changed the app framework between WP v7.0 => v7.5Then they changed it again for 7.8Then again for 8.0Then again for 10.0This meant that devs were forced to constantly learn new tooling, leading to fewer apps.Reason #3.Google absolutely fucked microsoft. They refused to allow any google maps or YouTube apps to exist on Windows phone.Not only did Google refuse to develop one, they also repeatedly sued Microsoft and forced them to take down every single third-party YouTube and Maps app in the WP store.
>>106650218because they sucked
>>106650767>Google absolutely fucked microsoft. They refused to allow any google maps or YouTube apps to exist on Windows phone.Most likely because they didnt want to port those app to their retarded .net framework. If microsoft had a brain they should've let people develop their apps using whatever programming language and framework they wanted
>>106650218Look at itIt looks to boring for most peopleAside from the many other issues, it shouldn't have marketed itself as the "boring business phone" and allow for more customization
>>106650767>This is by far the most commonly parroted answer, It is parroted, but it is right though. Mickeysoft came late to the party and excpected all app developers to just create an app for their ecosystem that was on par with the apps they already wrote and maintained in android and/or iphone app store. Any sane developer knows that this is next to impossible as any new development environment comes with new bugs and missing features. Hence: no apps
>>106651693I remember microsoft making their own youtube client app that google was okay with at first but then they had it blocked>using whatever programming language and framework they wantedthings don't work that way lil bro. what if I wanted to make an iPhone app using haskell?
ifaggotry.Zune was good, the desktop app was real good but iTunes was a better library manager.Zune hardware was really good. They also only launched it in the US and I think CA, if you wanted one, you had to import.Shame really, Zune was good.Windows mobile metro rebrand? Kinda shit, no apps, didn't build away enough from the ZHD os, shit keyboard compared to apple, couldn't be switched out like android which was also getting better.I wanna say they really needed to be run on OLEDs or higher resolution displays, ZHD's metro worked because it was a very small media player and not a smartphone, did not work on lower end devices with shit hardware.
>>106651693No, they blocked ANYONE from using their APIs and sued into oblivion to any developer who did.
>>106651846>It looks to boring for most peopleBy 2009-2010 standards, Metro looked good for an media player's OS and in the ZHD: People would constantly ask what your phone was.In late 2010/2011 when it launched, it was still attractive to people but nobody bothered to ship a phone with it aside from the usuals and they rarely designed nice phones.Hell, I still remember people being hyped over the HTC HD2 and that looks like cancer today.It's easy to forget how the phone scene was at the time but the N95 launched like mid '07 iirc, and the N95 8GB was late '07 with tie ins to Spider-Man 3 which was just out in cinemas. The iPhone was just being announced, there's only a gap of around 2 years between the N95 8GB and the ZHD's launch, 3 years to Windows Phone 7. That's firmly in iphone 3gs/4 territory.You're judging it by today's standards; rather than what most people were still using at the time on yearly/18 month contracts.
Windows Phone wasn't as open as Android either; you couldn't just plug a keyboard or mouse into the USB and have it work without doing anything. Now that Android is also becoming closed, we'll see if something open emerges.
>>106650218I thought about getting a windows phone around 2014 but no snapchat was a deal breaker
>>106650767>but it is almost completely wrongLmao, you never held a WP in your hand. I used one for almost three years. It had no apps. >carrier placementThat's an American thing. Why did it flop everywhere else?>words words words>leading to fewer appsSo no apps, but you wanted to yap?
I had a Lumia630, amazing phone, extremely efficient, loved the look and feel, dark cheap...Could do stuff over phones needed a shit ton of extra power perfectly. But yeah the issue was apps.
