I'm on a journey to install Debian 1.1 and upgrade my way up to the latest, using a VirtualBox VM. Right now I'm on Buster and stuck on one peculiarity (well, two).

Attempts to boot normally just make Gnome freeze, or in rarer cases, a kernel panic or the VM window itself crashes.

But if I set nomodeset? Everything is hunky dory.

I have 3D acceleration on and video memory set to max. Though I don't have guest additions installed, and I don't know if it would actually help.

I don't know if anything can be done about this or if I should just move on.

i like debian

>>106661097
Debian was a shitshow until 2.x. Honestly looking back it was only good for about 5 years.

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How stupid would it be to write a script that backs up my system, updates pacman, AUR, my containers and so on and then run it automatically every saturday before I wake up?

>known working m.2 drive with older ubuntu lts installed
>want to use drive alongside another m.2 in a new build
>it isn't being recognised in bios, live usb installer (cachyos, mint or ubuntu

help pls

>>106661495
If you put it back in the machine it was in before, is it recognized? What motherboards? SSD model?

>>106661264
very stupid because you can use a bunch of already established tools to do it faster and better

>>106661533
yes i am posting from it. the motherboard is a tuf b450m-pro drive is a kingston sa400m8/240g. it'll be going into a tuf b850m-plus wifi

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>>106661584
>sa400m8
That's a SATA M.2 SSD, the new board only supports PCIe (NVMe). You can't use that SSD as it is, in order for it to work the new board would need to route certain lines from the M.2 slot to the SATA controller in the chipset, and it does not. You'll either need a new (NVMe) drive or find an M.2 to regular SATA adapter.

>>106661650
thanks very much!

>>106660961
how can I make my linux 'puter look like that?

>>106661097
>>106661107
>>106661193
Any opinions on Devuan?

>>106662035
It's Debian without systemd for those that want that. It's like Artix, really.

>>106662035
I just used podman with systemd container files and I don't think I can go back to whatever tf I did before. I can actually have the container depend on a resource like a network interface being up, or even just bind it to the interface so that if it's up, the container is up. I can't imagine not having systemd. Must be like living in the stone ages

>>106661946
If you hate yourself that much, why not just build Linux from scratch?

i'm struggling to mod fallout new vegas on my steam deck
i was going to do it manually, but then bsa decompressor didn't work because there wasn't enough space or whatever. very epic!

>>106661946
the WM is FVWM, which is still around. there's a few dockapps on the side which you can probably still find. the gimp at the bottom left which still supports multi-window mode. not sure which terminal that is exactly, but many of them can be configured to look the same

>>106662399
>>106661946
oh yea, he also has netscape open. pale moon is a modern (enough) browser that can be themed to look exactly the same as netscape (as it uses the same gui system as netscape, being a hard fork of firefox from before they dropped the netscape style ui)

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How do I get rid of that yellow Wayland logo when running xwayland apps? I want the actual app logo

>>106662592
>right click
>special application settings
>desktop file name
>enter the apps desktop file name there
Just Wayland things

What programm do I use as replacement for sharex on linux? And is there anything similar to google remote desktop? I sometimes like to access my PC from my phone, maybe even doing mouse input for some game.

>>106663146
Krfb comes pre-installed in most distros which ship KDE Plasma. Just set up the unattended access password.
You can use something like AVNC on Android to connect to it (I'm sure there are better clients, but this is the one I use because it was alphabetically the first thing on the list).

That said, if you just need to do mouse input and you don't need to view the desktop (screen) remotely, then KDE Connect should be fine. It's basically the standard inter-device connectivity utility on Linux/Android and it also has Windows and iOS versions.

>update system
>I still have connection but the system can't resolve any DNS
>messing around with NetworkManager configs changes nothing
I'll admit defeat. I'm too dumb for this. I'll go back to Win10

>>106663772
>updating the system while not using an immutable distro
you were just looking for trouble

>>106663815
I definetely bit off more than I could chew

>>106663772
Arch? If so try https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=308364

Is it true that swap and trim may ruin the SSD or cause data loss? I read that trim and linux don't go hand in hand.

Also, should i force firefox to use the nvidia card instead of the integrated one?

>>106663999
As it does on Windows by default, just set it to TRIM once every week instead of every day.

>>106663999
I swear I've killed a SSD by formatting it twice and allowing mkfs(?) to run full trim both times
if you trust the drive contents, maybe skip full trim but enable all the auto/async shit

Thinking about security of single-user desktop installations
every guide and security "thing" out there talks about protecting root and there a millions mitigation strategies, but for a desktop installation, getting a compromised user is about as bad as a compromised root and that barely gets talked about

>>106664139
i enabled systemctl-fstrim, it activates on monday, is it too much?
>enable all the auto/async shit
please explain

>>106660961
I know iptables can be setup to be limited to only user wide, but can it be limited down to only a wine layer?

>>106664192
i don't do a whole lot in that regard, but primarily i have automatic hourly btrfs snapshots, and i use bubblewrap to sandbox certain things like games and my web browser.
like i could run "rm -rf ~" right now and lose only 25 minutes worth of changes to my home folder

>>106664231
fstrim is a manual trim command, but I dunno if it does a full drive trim or just targeted blocks
I think the /mount option discard=async performs trim if the current write operation requires those blocks
usually discard=async is set to default when an SSD is detected, but you can check with

mount[/code/

>>106664258
If you run wine in a dedicated network namespace, yes.

>>106664285
I'm less worried about data loss and more worried about data exfiltration.
I think bubblewrap kind of address it? not sure

>>106664339
that's more of a network issue, which gets tricky fast. what exactly are you wanting to do?

>>106664339
Bubblewrap with sandboxing of user directories so that it only gets access to what it needs mostly addresses it but there are still some gotchas like if you need access to DBus then this is a giant gaping hole that can be used to escape the sandbox if you don't filter it properly (Flatpak's do).

>>106664339
>>106664432
-- or, if it's a matter of what malware can see in the first place, bubblewrap or another sandbox will help there. like games i run in it can not see my home folder, they see a folder designated to that game which the game can write it's save files and the like to. so like if a crack i use has something look for bitcoin wallets or ssh keys or something, it won't find anything, since the game's process cannot see my home folder at all, it simply doesn't exist in the virtual filesystem presented to it.

>>106664192
Keeping packages fairly upto date is going to help mitigate any user to root escalations. That's at least one vector you can cover off.

Other is having backups and being able to confidently blow your system away if you do feel something is off or you run something dodgy.

I have a few shell scripts and some ansible that i keep upto date, allows me to setup all my packages, dot files etc. quickly. Thankfully not had to use them in anger yet, so far just for testing in a vm with a new desktop environment.

>>106664331

I think a couple of distros like Fedora auto enable a trim every week (Monday i believe).

>>106664464
If that's Fedora with BTRFS then that timer (which most distros have) doesn't actually do anything for the default BTRFS filesystem which handles TRIM automatically in the background.

>>106664464
They follow in Windows's footsteps

>>106664471
Yeah its BTFS, apologies, i may have enabled it then, its been awhile since i set this machine up

>>106664449
(that and cracked games i use have no access to the internet, which is something bubblewrap can also do by means of an empty network namespace)

>>106664502
>an empty network namespace
Loopback needs to be brought up at the bare minimum.

>>106664546
fair, imprecise wording

why does KDE have a billion anti-intuitive settings that i have to go through to make the desktop usable? the notification audio settings are in 4 different places
managing the taskbar is HELL
little mouse sorry i'm coming back to you bby

I'm dual booting on windows.
Is there anyway to decrease the windows partition size further to make more space for linux?
I've tried following the guide to shrink the windows partition (disable hibernation, defragment, etc.) but I only got to decrease around 20GB. I want the windows partition to be down to 150 GB (its still 500 GB).

>>106664587
use gparted from a linux livecd. when shrinking the volume you're running windows from, it is unable to move certain "system" data, which over time can become spread out across the volume. when shrinking from another os however, this isn't an issue, as none of that data is currently in use. you can probably do it from a windows-based livecd as well such as HBCD, but since this is a linux thread, i am naturally more familiar with linux tools.

>>106664585
Skill issue

>>106664638
.. of the UX "designers" that made KDE from cobbled together parts, yes.

>>106664585
>the notification audio settings
This shit pisses me the fuick off. Up until a few months ago, if I set the notification volume lower, then the loud ass beeps when I adjust volume would be correspondingly quieter. Then apparently some faggot decided that doesn't count as a notification sound so suddenly they're at max volume again, and instead there's a different option elsewhere to mute it. But I don't want it muted, just fucking quieter when I have my volume cranked way the fuck up for quiet ass VSTs. Great job assholes for breaking a perfectly functional and utterly normal setup for no discernible reason. I fucking hate linux and KDE so much, but everything else is at best just as bad.

>>106664585
KDE is function over form
GNOME is from over function
Xfce is the best of both worlds

what would be the optimal way for me to set up an encrypted laptop for my mother? She doesn't want to update to W11 so I'm looking to find a suitable distro that just works for her and also be secure. I'm thinking TPM support or TPM+passphrase

>>106664713
Any retard proof distro like ublue distros, Linux Mint/LMDE or Ubuntu, luks and, if she's in danger of evil maids fucking with her shit, a bios password.

>>106664585
Out of interest why did you leave XFCE? Just swapped from GNOME and wished i did it years ago.

>>106664713
Whatever you're familiar with because you're going to be logging into it regularly. Every distro worth talking about can do TPM unlock via clevis.

>>106664697
Of you. The UI is fine

>>106664705
>GNOME is from
>from
Sounds about right, gnome is form over function but twisted.

can someone help me explain the linux boot process to someone else?
so my understanding is system checks hardware as usual, then hardware starts if ok, idk bios, bootloader loads linux n stuff (but what else?) and then linux itself.
i hope i did not get it terribly wrong

>>106664713
Mint is easy to configure encryption on. Might want to enable autologon though so she doesnt have to input password twice (while keeping a password on the lockscreen).

>>106664862
The UI may be, the UX however:
If you like a gazillion of checkboxes and sliders that have no explanation to them whatsoever, yes.
And if you enjoy a way of installing desktop themes that rarely works due to pling rate limits.
And if you like sub menus within sub menus leading to a maze like experience.

KDE is a prime example of "Wouldn't it be cool if we..." leading to an absurd experience that you need an extra course on.

>>106664585
They are not only anti-intuitive, they are also worthless most of the time.

>>106665321
>Get prompted to install the Plasma Integration addon to Firefox
>Install it
>Download some files with Firefox
>Firefox Downloads menu pops up, showing me download progress
>Plasma notification pops up next to it, also showing me download progress
???

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>>106664900
Just use the search, everything you want can be found there. You mentioned notification sounds, a simple search would bring that straight up without having to look for it.

Almost everything can be found this way, even the obscure settings that nobody rarely changes.

>>106665449
Plasma Integration used to do a lot of stuff that Firefox didn't do but nowadays they've implemented most of them, for example, KDE added MPRIS support to the browser via the add-on but now Firefox has this as a native feature.

>>106665469
A proper UI doesn't need searching to find features.

>>106665671
You can find them without searching, it's just quicker to use the search because it takes you directly to thing you're looking at. I'm not sure how you expect them to design it any better than it is, everything is already neatly categorised and the list would be too long if they didn't do that.

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What'd be better when it comes to old laptops to put linux on?
an old https://support.apple.com/en-us/111955 i bought from a hobo, or a https://support.hp.com/au-en/document/c04934785?
obviously the macbook beats it in terms of ssd and ram but idk how processors work since laptop processors are fucky with lots of cores and low clock speed.

>>106665878
The MacBook. It's Intel so should work flawlessly. The only issues you might have is with the Broadcom Wireless if Apple still uses them.

>>106665900
ty ty

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yazi is sick wtf
wonder if there's a gallery mode

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>>106662399
>>106662407
Thank you, I also managed to find the wallpaper in OP, pretty neat.
https://web.archive.org/web/20050207014927/http://tigert.gimp.org/wallpapers/
>>106666334
For me it's lf. I think you can use dmenu in conjuction with nsxiv to quickly search for pictures in a grid gallery mode, but I've never tried it.

why is everyone on protondb running proton version 9.0-4?
also gaming on Linux thread would be cool. Idk how people get their shit to run. I've been trying to run Cyberpunk stable for days now

>>106667095
Have you tried the latest proton-ge-custom?

bros... wtf is going on?
did I fall for the chink meme?

[20818.804925] usb 1-8.2.2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
[20818.804928] usb 1-8.2.2: Product: 8BitDo Pro 3
[20818.804931] usb 1-8.2.2: Manufacturer: 8BitDo
[20818.818846] input: 8BitDo Ultimate 2 Wireless Controller as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-8/1-8.2/1-8.2.2/1-8.2.2:1.0/input/input404
[20818.820705] input: 8BitDo 8BitDo Pro 3 Keyboard as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-8/1-8.2/1-8.2.2/1-8.2.2:1.1/0003:2DC8:310B.00EF/input/input405
[20818.920268] input: 8BitDo 8BitDo Pro 3 Mouse as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-8/1-8.2/1-8.2.2/1-8.2.2:1.1/0003:2DC8:310B.00EF/input/input406
[20818.920440] hid-generic 0003:2DC8:310B.00EF: input,hidraw0: USB HID v1.11 Keyboard [8BitDo 8BitDo Pro 3] on usb-0000:00:14.0-8.2.2/input1
[20819.211347] usbhid 1-8.2.2:1.2: can't add hid device: -32
[20819.211425] usbhid 1-8.2.2:1.2: probe with driver usbhid failed with error -32
[20819.251218] input input404: unable to receive magic message: -32
[20819.304516] input input404: unable to receive magic message: -32
[20819.304819] usb 1-8.2.2: USB disconnect, device number 74

it just keeps looping. what the fuck is it doing?

How do I get my Linux Mint to detect my mouse without restarting my computer? It's one of those mice that uses the PS/2 port if that matters

>>106667260
>PS/2 port
the fact it would allow hotplugging at all is confusing. but it's 2025 I guess.

>>106667304
>allow hotplugging
Maybe it doesn't and that's the problem? Idk I not that tech literate, I just use Linux because I don't want to use Windows

>>106667260
>PS/2 port if that matters
connect mouse before starting the computer

>>106667260

ps/2 device should be at place on boot

What terminal emulator should I use. I'm sick of fighting with transmission

>>106667448
>>106667473
k thanks

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After 3 hours of my time yesterday, I managed to encrypt and automount my new drive on Artix.

Thank God for the Gentoo wiki!

>>106665671
A UI which doesn't have search likely only has a couple of options. As soon as there's a double digit number of menu entries with more than a single option within it, you absolutely need search. Any good UI and functional software will have a search bar.

>>106667095
>why is everyone on protondb running proton version 9.0-4?
Because it has been the default for a long time now. Proton 10 is still in beta, even if it has improved compatibility and it fixed many bugs. Most people just stick to defaults.
> gaming on Linux thread would be cool
>>>/vg/lgg

>>106667260
Most motherboards don't support hotplugging PS/2 ports apparently. All of the ones I've ever used did support it, but apparently that's very rare.
So, you need to have the mouse plugged in before boot.

>>106667516
>Any good UI and functional software will have a search bar.
Hell, the often regarded as masters of good UI design, Apple, have global search for every app on macOS. That's how essential search is that even they have it with their dumb and simplistic UI choices because a simplistic UI does not mean the software lacks features and you will need to search and find those features somehow.

People that want a UI without search and without any options or features whatsoever would be better served by a Fisher Price kids toy.

>>106667260
Get one of those PS/2 to USB adapters from Aliexpress for $5

>>106667639

>>106667492
Kitty

>>106667193
I'm trying several of the newer ones. I've got it pretty stable now but the odd loading screen will still crash it (plus quite a bit of performace loss)
>>106667516
cool, thanks for the link. I don't browse vg usually

How do you deal with having two hard drives
It feels like no matter how I assign the mount points, one of the drives is doomed to remain almost empty

>>106667848
Home directory(ies) on one, system on the other. I also use a third order drive for hi use low value files, like downloads.

>run syu
>replace gnome something something with gnome something something?
>sure i use KDE everything and sddm anyways what could possibly go wrong
>restart after a few hours of stuff
>my systemd explodes, booting into jack shit after Plymouth
>use 3 param on grub to go to tty
>trawl journalctl
>your GDM is exploded nigger where is it
>i don't even use sddm wtf are you talking about
>rns GDM
>reinstall sddm and re enable it
>ok we're back but with the butt ugly default theme
>install old theme
>restart
>everything is exploded nigger have a blank screen
>change sddm theme back to default again
first time ever having a true arch moment

>>106667871
>I dont even use *gdm* wtf are you talking about
typo

>>106667866
>Home directory(ies) on one, system on the other.
Yeah this is the obvious division but the system drive remains almost empty

>>106667848
>>106667889
Your OS will almost never go over 70GB-100GB of storage even if all you use are flatpaks, appimages and distroboxed packages. It's your downloads that will consume most of the space (movies, games, etc. or your personal photos/videos if you store those on PC).
If you have 2 large drives, just use one and use the 2nd one for backups. Or, if one of your drives is smaller (120-300GB) you can use that for everything except your Downloads directory, which you should link to your other drive.
Having your entire /home on a different drive is pointless unless you expect your system drive to fail and you'll reinstall the same distro once it does. In which case it's better to just set up backups anyway.

do we have any informant on when excalibur is going stable? the forums are vague, only claiming it'll move when is ready.

>>106667848
Btrfs RAID1 and add one more drive so you won't end up with wasted space

Hey I'm the dumb bitch that broke Pam last week
Downloaded the liveCD, mounted the ISO directly and copied Pam configs from there, all working now
Thanks to the anons that suggested that

which linxu distro is the best for 7th generation of cpu?

>>106668555
hanna montana linux or
linux for niggers.

we have any linux gamers here? is amdgpu really that much faster than nvidia?

>>106668555
nigger kike

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>>106668632

>>106667848
Use LVM, make the volumes small and expand them as needed later.
LVM was made exactly for this purpose.
partition-manager is the best program for managing your disks, and it makes LVM usage a breeze.

>>106668632
Faster at what? If gaming, then maybe. If compute, then absolutely not in a million years.

>>106668632
Yes

on cachy os, running on laptop. 4070

Comfyui freezes sometimes. So annoying, I have to restart usually.

How can I stop this?

>>106668881
why don't you ask AI

linux doesnt work mostly and then they make the new solutions also too which donot work forever

>>106668881
download more ram

>>106667848
>one of the drives is doomed to remain almost empty
I never, ever had this problem, in decades of using computers. Filling them all up just naturally happens.

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>>106668808
>>106668632

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>>106660961
Good evening, I installed the native version of a game

but then installed the proton one, my question is

wher can I find this native version of the games so I can delete it and not end up with two big 100gb games?

thank you

>latest nixos unstable update was 16gb
jesus

>>106670090
Still think it's a good idea to vendor all of those different copies of different libraries in /nix?

I ordered a new 2TB M.2 SSD, I'll be installing gentoo on it but what filesystem should I choose? ZFS looks cool but gentoo wiki makes it seem like a pain on linux to manage.

Going to buy a vivobook 16 for college, I've been thinking of try linux mint cinnamon instead of Windows 11. Is it worth it? I am not going to use it for programming; I just need to open PDFs and to use Office (I don't mind if I have to use a non-Windows equivalent).

I'm trying to setup a vpn via a wireguard connection and then run a program (ie firefox) via firejail with something like `firejail --net=wg0 firefox`.
This would allow me to run arbitrary programs under specific, isolated networks - if the vpn goes down, my unprotected ethernet is not used as fallback and I also dont lose my router specific stuff for my local network.
I cant find a single post or something of someone getting this to work, and I'm really surprised because this doesnt feel like a novel idea at all

>>106670213
if you're gonna do Gentoo doing zfs isn't any more complicated.

>>106670213
Just use BTRFS. I have ZFS on root because I used to have a storage array on ZFS so thought I might as well use it on root too but I wouldn't do that again. It's manageable for me because I have my own custom initramfs with ZFS tools embedded and also build ZFS statically into my kernel (this means I never run into any issues with the kernel module because if the kernel doesn't compile then I'm not installing it) but today I'd just go with BTRFS all the way. It's matured a lot.

Bcachefs is interesting for its tiered storage but it just got the boot from the kernel because Kent is a dick.

>>106670239
I guess I'll look into BTRFS then, thanks anon. I don't really want to manage the initramfs contents manually, I really like gentoo but I prefer as little hassle as possible because hassle is mostly boring. I've been using XFS on my current SSD but I really like the features of ZFS and BTRFS so I'd really like to do the switch.

>>106670279
what's the point of Gentoo if you're not going to modify your kernel config or dracut? Adding the zfs module to dracut is a simple task. your bootloader will be more complicated if you retain kernels in the zfs filesystem, but you don't have to. really... Why gentoo at all?

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>>106670326
My experience of gentoo is that it literally just works. Portage is good, I don't know what to say, I don't like compiling stuff but I can't see myself using any other distro either. I guess the little hassle is the price I'm willing to pay for performance and stability.

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>>106670225
>>106670225
>>106670225

>>106670400
no. no one in this thread will tell you to use loonix isn't of windows.

>>106670419
Ok, thank you.

>>106670445
you're not welcome, tranny

>>106670454
I thought this was a friendly linux thread.

>>106670525
you thought wrong, timmy.

>>106670537
I am a timmy or a tranny? Decide already, nigger.

Is pango on arch borked for anyone else? Half of my apps just stopped working until i reverted it back to 1.56.

>>106669267
well where did you install it?

>>106671370
On my dishwasher.

>>106660961
henlo fren, I am still having a problem with my PS4 controller on kubuntu 25.04. it will connect wired just fine, but when it connects wireless via bluetooth, it's really laggy and after a while the computer won't recognize it anymore even though blueman says it's still connected. any hope for me?

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cool

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if you were to choose between openrc and runit which one would you pick and why?
after reading their docs ive come to conclude that both seem more complicated than they need to be.

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>>106670225
>>106670400
Ignore the other faggot. Mint is fine for everyday use, Cinnamon specifically may feel a bit "outdated" but works just fine. I've heard Cinnamon doesn't perform good on laptops but I've never used it on a laptop before so ymmv, in any case you can always try xfce. You can avoid the terminal if you're not comfortable with it, but I suggest you to at least get familiar with some basic stuff (how to (un)install a package, how to move files around, how to edit a text file, etc.). If you need any program, Flathub should get you covered, look into what it is and how it works to avoid problems. Also look into btrfs and Timeshift, it's a neat way of keeping backups of your system in case you fuck up your Linux. Good luck fren.
>>106671768
I've never used runit before, but openrc just works. If a program I use needs an openrc script I just install the corresponding package and add the service to the runlevel. I don't really mess around with it too much, so there's nothing much I can say about it.

>>106671882
I think this question will fit here more than /tpg/
Is there anyway to recalibrate or using screen panel profile on linux? I have an x270 with TN panel running Tixie Plasma.

>>106672057
whoops, wasn't meant to quote anon above, my bad

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>Had one of those days where I had a problem, misunderstood its cause, got myself into a different problem trying to fix it and wasted two hours on it all because of an option completely unrelated to my system.
Im a fucking retard

>trying to add Arch repos to Artix so I can get html-xml-utils (a package from the AUR requires it)
>put mirrorlist in pacman.d folder
>Artix mirrorlist says I can find the fastest mirror by running the rankmirrors command on the mirrorlist-arch text file
>run rankmirrors
>bash: rankmirrors: command not found
>wtf???
>search for rankmirrors command on teh webz
>it's part of the "pacman-contrib" package apparently
>pacman -S pacman-contrib
>no package found
>wtf the fuck???
There is no 'rankmirrors' package or 'pacman-contrib' package in the Artix repositories so it's not even possible to use the command that it says to use in the Artix mirror list file to be able to find the best/closest mirror to me. What even is this shit bro

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>>106672146
Oh, well nvm. I found out, after uncommenting the mirrors I needed from the arch mirror list, that for some reason the Arch repos I added not having their databases downloaded was preventing me from installing anything at all, even from the repositories that were perfectly functional. Ok then. I thought the error I was getting wasn't preventing me from searching/installing from the Artix repos.

>>106671768
runit is pure Rube Goldberg fuckery. You use it because it's funny not because it works better. To be real it's the best reason to use any non-systemd service manager.