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>cures your distrohopping
>makes Ubuntu, Mint, and many other distros pointless.
Why haven't you settled on the original instead of using these meme distros?
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for me, it's debian sid
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>>106664272
i have lmde tho
>>106664278
it's literally for testing. even more unstable than rolling release distros
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>>106664325
nope, debian testing is for testing
I use sid for many years
unstable means changin not if it crashes
haven't had one problem with it, don't spread misinfo
debian has other branch for developers to look for bugs and it's debian experimental
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>>106664272
I use Nix, but Debian is good too. I personally don't understand distrohopping in the age of devpods,distroboxes and flatpaks.
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Based.
Installing Debian 13 on my new machine when it arrives later this week. I'm aiming for full disk encryption, use of xlibre, pipewire audio and KDE with windows classic theme.
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>>106664272
for me, it's devuan.
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>>106664272
Too stale.
Backports finnicky, rarely available for the shit I need.
In the end I'm forced to tinker more than with any minimal/rolling distro.
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>>106664272
It's like Mint but you have to tweak some udev rules and config files after installing to fix various issues, and then you don't want to uninstall it because you got stockholm syndrome after fixing issues for 3 weeks and forgot everything you did and wouldnt be able to reproduce it a second time.
>>106664334
Sid isn't meant as a production rolling release distro for users, this this a cope that originated on /g/ because some anons think it's like a secret distro that lets them get away with not using arch, have fun with unvetted updates from and no security repo though
>Debian Unstable (also known by its codename "Sid") is not a release, but rather the development version of the Debian distribution containing the latest packages that have been introduced into Debian. It is not a "rolling release", as no release-like quality assurance and integration testing is done on it. [...] Unstable in Debian can be considered something that is in constant development, so it is Rolling Development and not Rolling Release.
Btw experimental isn't a repo, it's just the staging area for sid. The development repository is sid.
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gentoo is the only distro.
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>>106664272
Debian 13 seems worse then 12. I have endless issues with my bluetooth now that I didn't before and whenever I pause a video it makes a weird buzzing noise. Everything worked with no issues for 2 years on 12.
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>>106664272
my hardware is too new to run ancient kernels
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Gem post.
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>>106664272
nixos already solved that.
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I had to install Debian 14, because I need a newer version of mesa. It's fine though. I'll just run it and keep running it after it becomes stable.
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>>106664272
>cures your distrohopping
>has the latest packages
>is stable
>can setup it just how you like it
come home
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>>106669205
stable unlike your gender when you install arch
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>>106667491
works for me retard never had any problem and I used arch before
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>>106669219
>debian fag projecting
https://www.debian.org/intro/diversity
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>>106669205
https://bits.debian.org/2019/06/diversity-and-inclusion.html
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>>106669219
https://micronews.debian.org/2025/1738154246.html
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i triggered this tranny so hard he's spamming me with replies.
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>>106669301
>tranny
keep on projecting, cope and seethe
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>>106669205
>>has the latest packages
more like NO packages. so you're forced to resort to the AUR aka the malware repo
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>>106669365
>malware repo
only a issue for retards like yourself, arch with the aur is best a linux user can get
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arch trannies furiously defending their tranny distro
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>>106669413
>stil projecting
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>>106664325
>i have lmde tho
same, it's a matter of days now that BETA is out. LMDE cured my Distrohopping
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>arch trannies
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arch trannies seething no dilating itt
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>>106669558
>i say therefore it's true
cope and seethe, debian is for faggots
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this arch tranny literally chopped his dick off itt.
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>>106669610
>thinking about chopping off dicks
who the tranny again, cause it ain't me.
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>>106664272
Linux Mint on my main desktop and modern laptop, Debian on my old/travel laptop.
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>>106669445
>he doesn't know
https://terms.archlinux.org/docs/code-of-conduct/?rdfrom=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.archlinux.org%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3DCode_of_conduct%26redirect%3Dno
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>>106664272
they cant even get tmpfs right.
systemd shit!
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>>106664272
Apt is dogshit though I can't ever go back to it. I think I would actually prefer no package manager at all to apt.
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>>106669365
at least I can comprehend an arch package.

quick, type out a `debian/changelog` file without referencing the documentation.
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>>106670220
>at least I can comprehend an arch package.
Yeah bro, I'm sure you're checking each package from AUR over and over again with every update.
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>>106664272
jeremy c bicha
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is there any actual server distro that isn't maintained by trannies and pedos?
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>>106664272
>Why haven't you settled on the original instead of using these meme distros?
because arch is better for my needs, as simple as.
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>>106664334
why type like a nigger zoomie?
this
is
stupid
fukin
animal
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>>106671333
AUR helpers display a diff and ask for confirmation before upgrading.
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>>106671333
>he doesn't use paru+lf
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>>106664334
Debian Sid is for testing.
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Compared to Mint's out-of-the-box environment, Debian is too vanilla and empty for me to care about it. It works as a foundation for other distrosnto build off of (and servers too) but yeah.
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>>106664272
I can't change the brightness and there's no setting to reduce blue light
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>>106669219
>stable unlike your gender
sides = orbit
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>>106664272
I settled with Debian years ago. Then switched to OS X for a while when it was still good, now I use a mix of Debian and OpenBSD machines
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>>106664325
>lmde
Da wey
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can i install this on 32gb drive
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>>106664272
thanks but no thanks. I'll stick to mint.
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>>106664272
Daily reminder: Fuck Flatpack
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>>106669205
arch is for zoomers that cant install gentoo but want to still want to signal like they are cool hacker man that can into terminal
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>>106664272
Long time Debian user, last run though i ran my server on Ubuntu, I had my system on uptime a few months then an update an restart broke my system kernal panic on boot so i just said fuck it, bike's the system and installed Debian 13. It want difficult to fix the kernal panic but I was just done with that system and Ubuntu
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>>106669301
kek
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>>106664272
I like the ready to go distributions across different hardware from pi to pc and not having to relearn syntax quirks. Debian everywhere.
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>>106669246
They let some fag make a fag thing. Not your distro. Hang yourself
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>>106664272
>Why haven't you settled on the original instead of using these meme distros?
Give me one reason to do that.
>but it's the original
IDGAF
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>>106673958
>Give me one reason to do that.
speed, stability, etc
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>>106671763
i have been testing the same install for years and i gotta say it really works well
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>>106669246
obsessed
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>no store
>have to use terminal to do everything
>downloading steam is hard
>downloading anything is hard
>have to read through schizo wiki to figure things out
>old af packages
>fucked desktop environmens (NO COSMIC)
>no cosmic
>preinstalls with fuckton of bloat games like some fuckign gnome games
>too many gnome games
>two different installers
>different apps if you use live installation or cd
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>>106676039
>>downloading steam is hard
thats a lie.
>>downloading anything is hard
partially true, theres a lot of software out there that you need to do gimmicks to install, like waydroid.
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>>106664272
Refracta is a Devuan-based Linux distribution that offers a simple, stable, and systemd-free desktop experience using Xfce. It’s ideal for users who want full control of their system, avoid bloat, or revive older hardware.

What sets Refracta apart is its built-in toolkit:

Refractainstaller – install to disk from live mode

Refractasnapshot – turn your running system into a custom ISO

Refracta2usb – easily create live USBs

People use it for everything from daily drivers to custom distro builds to rescue environments. It’s especially loved by users who value init freedom, minimalism, and the ability to remaster a system in minutes.

Pros:

Lightweight and fast

Full control, no systemd

Excellent remastering tools

Great for older or niche hardware setups

Potential Gotchas:

May require tweaking initramfs or BIOS settings for USB boot

Smaller community = less handholding

Not always plug-and-play with newer devices

Perfect for tech-savvy tinkerers, privacy-focused users, and those who want to build and share their own live environments.

refracta.org
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>>106664334
>>106664278
based, retards on this side don't know that debian's real unstable branch is called 'experimental'. debian sid is the actual rolling release branch of debian. while testing is for packets that will make it to stable in the next release, which is why it stops receiving updates every two years, while sid keeps being updated.

the pipeline goes like this:
>experimental -> sid -> testing -> stable
it's one of the best distro for devs, because it has good stability while having a shitton of updated packages when you need to pull dependencies for a project.

t. sid user for 10+ years
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>>106664272
>cures your distrohopping
No, THIS cures your distrohopping...
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>>106680203
See, you can run MANY THINGS inside Qubes OS! MANY DISTROS TOO!
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>>106669205
i tried endeavour and i got filtered by AUR, fuck this shit, i'm sticking to debian
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>>106680203
>meme OS
nope
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>>106664272
Most of the time, the wifi drivers in Debian by default are absolute shit.

It's great if you only want Ethernet but I can count on more than one hand of all the times where the install would just not go through unless I used wired Ethernet first.

I would rather go with Mint or Kubuntu. Those are better options for most desktop users.

Debian is really only good for that shitty NAS PC you're trying to build with some old Dell Optiplex or some shit.
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>>106680493
Amen, AUR sucks balls compared to APT.
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>>106681212
Having to use wired internet one time at install is not a good reason switch distros
Sure you'll get drivers right away but then you are stuck with Mint or Kubuntu for years
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>>106681212
>Most of the time, the wifi drivers in Debian by default are absolute shit.
Only if you use shit hardware
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there are only 2 distros
debian or arch
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>>106684978
debian or gentoo
ftfy
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>>106684978
and fedora
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>>106664272
I moved from Arch to Artix, then from that to Debian and now using Linux Mint for years and Mint is only one that I can use without using terminal even once.
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>>106667523
Isn't Gentoo for literal psychopaths with nothing else to look forward to
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>>106672652
Nobody uses gentoo
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I have been using debian 13 for a month now as my first linux
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>>106688896
why would it be that? it's just a very malleable Linux distro that doesn't even necessarily require compiling from sources these days
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>>106664272
because I have nixOS

Debian with nix installed would be a close second.
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>>106688943
How is 13?
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>>106664272
Why do they keep making the number bigger? Are they really changing that much of Debian between versions? Or is it just some calendar year schedule thing? I just get flashbacks to Firefox 3 and then copying Chrome's rapid release schedule they put out 140 versions in 13 years.
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>>106690257
troon
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>>106693888
married with white children :)
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Ive been using MX linux for years, over 4.5 years as of now with 2 reinstalls since I got new hardware but I always backed up my home directory each new version.

It's my main distro I'll never leave. Just sane defaults, apps and a stable desktop.

They know how to maintain an OS and the MX tools are great, It's like if opensuses admin panel was transfered over to debian and is actually good.

Just not having systemd with sysvinit as the default and no ubunga base makes it one of the best solid linux OS.
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>>106694194
retard distro, really fucking sucks
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>>106684978
true
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>>106664272
OP here!
Whoops I uploaded the wrong image! Here's the right one!
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>>106667491
>anons think it's like a secret distro that lets them get away with not using arch, have fun with unvetted updates from and no security repo though
and still less insecure/unstable than arch
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>>106696415
>38 GB total space
yeah, nobody uses Fedora baremetal, they just fire up a VM and post in fetch threads
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>>106684978
and only one of those is a serious distribution
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marry female children.
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marry female children.
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>>106664272
this cures your distro-hopping: https://www.apple.com/os/macos
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LMDE 7 is coming soon.
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>>106664272
Don't like the desktop environment. Looks cringe, feels cringe. Cachy > and it's not close.
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>>106669205
>is stable
lol. lmao, even.
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>>106664272
I have a /stupidquestion/, GNOME Software shows blank, why is that? Is it because I installed debian with GNOME, cinnamon, xfce and KDE plasma?
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I'm using the original Fedor, not some outdated troon distro.
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>>106678294
>which is why it stops receiving updates every two years, while sid keeps being updated
sid freezes too retard
>>106664334
>debian testing is for testing
oh boy
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what version of kde is available on debian 13?
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>>106702030
6.3
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>>106702091
is 6.3 as stable as 5.27.11? everything just works here on kubuntu 22.04 and really the only motivation I have to move is for 6.3 apparently no longer relying on /home for caching certain parts of the DE
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>>106669205
>>is stable
kek
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>>106669498
These people should be forced to live among the diversity they claim to love. It always turns out that they're in some lily-White safe area when they claim this stuff.
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>>106664272
I prefer Fedora and Alma, but it is fine on a rpi.
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>>106664325
>>106669447
I used it until LMDE2 lost support. Good old Betsy, I still miss her.

Everything after it is incompatible with how it used to read/write timestamps. I guess it's because of systemd, so I switched to artix.
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>>106694194
This shit cannot upgrade itself so you have to fully reinstall every time
I don't understand the point of this distro when it's basically just Debian stable with the backported kernel
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>>106703375
why not devuan
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>>106701006
fuck off
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>>106704700
Devuan is a server OS.
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>>106664272
>outdated packages
>schizoid political team that obviously values niche ideologies over making a succesful tech product, leaves their biggest social media xitter to own the chuds i guess???
>rapidly losing relevance due to canonical heavily losing out space to rpm/redhat/suse solutions in enterprise and servers, while fedora has become the community/desktop losers favorite for newbies, and arch has become the goto for steamos and gamer distros, and gentoo for chromeos.
It's a dead man walking, once Ubuntu finally moves over fully to an atomic based snap focused distro in the next 10-20 years, it's dead. All linux distro maintainers complain that most of the maintainers are old as fuck and no new blood is coming in, and there's no money to be made in that as linux desktop has failed and the growth in the enterprise/server department doesn't really justify investing into desktop solutions anymore. Debian is dead. It's also a fucking cursed distro, imagine using a distro named by a schizo who names it after his wife who leaves him and then gets raped by cops and commits a suicide. What's wrong with you man? Get an exorcism.
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>>106705525
fedora just works tho
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i use debian because i don't hate systemd enough to use gentoo
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>>106664272
Will it solve my driver issues? Linux Mint is having a hard time with my 9070XT, it outright wasn't detecting it, using the integrated graphics card instead
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>>106664272
I'm considering hopping from Ubuntu 24.04 to Debian 13 KDE.
Have it running in a VM now, and it seems pretty comfy. Have used both Debian + KDE before, but not for long. Ended up on Ubuntu because of newer hardware, which is no longer an issue with the release of Debian 13.
Plasma seems to have improved a lot since 5.X days. Looks much better now, which is one of the gripes I have always had with it (that it didn't look as good as GNOME).
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>>106706998
Try using Linux Mint Debian Edition. You get the updates/upgrades directly from Debian, which could help your driver issues, plus the polish of the Mint project.


If that dooesn't work, switch to a distro based on Arch or derivated from RedHat. Of the former, I suggest artix.
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>>106707028
I still dislike KDE
It's too all over the place, with a billion of options. And GNOME is the opposite, purely "look but don't touch"
That's why I use Cinnamon. Hits the sweet spot in the middle.



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