>UIs to generate animeComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUISwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUIre/Forge/Classic: https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#reforgeclassicSD.Next: https://github.com/vladmandic/sdnextWan2GP: https://github.com/deepbeepmeep/Wan2GPInvokeAI: https://www.invoke.com/AniStudio(WIP): https://github.com/FizzleDorf/AniStudio>How to Generating Anime Imageshttps://rentry.org/comfyui_guide_1girlhttps://tagexplorer.github.iohttps://making-images-great-again-library.vercel.app/https://neta-lumina-style.tz03.xyz/>Generating Anime VideosGuide:https://rentry.org/wan22ldgguide>Anime Checkpoints, LoRAs, Upscalers, & Workflowshttps://civitai.comhttps://civitaiarchive.comhttps://tensor.arthttps://openmodeldb.infohttps://openart.ai/workflowshttps://www.seaart.aihttps://www.liblib.art/https://rentry.org/adtsampler>Anime MiscLocal Model Meta: https://rentry.org/localmodelsmetaShare Metadata: https://catbox.moe | https://litterbox.catbox.moeImg2Prompt: https://huggingface.co/spaces/fancyfeast/joy-caption-beta-oneSamplers: https://stable-diffusion-art.com/samplersTxt2Img Plugin: https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusionOnline metadata viewer SD/NovelAI: https://spell.novelai.dev>Inpainting Guide from an Anonhttps://files.catbox.moe/fbzsxb.jpg (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed)>>106520607 (Cross-thread) (Cross-thread)>Neighbourshttps://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#rentry-from-other-boards>>>/aco/csdg>>>/b/degen>>>/b/realistic+parody>>>/gif/vdg>>>/d/ddg>>>/e/edg>>>/h/hdg>>>/trash/slop>>>/vt/vtai>>>/u/udg>>>/r9k/aiwg/>>>/jp/2huai/>Local Text&Image>>>/g/lmg>>>/g/ldg>>>/vp/napt>Cloud Text&Image>>>/g/aicg>>>/g/sdg/Prev: >>106651916
>>106666609ANCHOR!>/adt/ pixiv:https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/110320313 (suspended sob)https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/93453238https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/134385090https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/91156181https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/38224130https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/76374114https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/106407853https://rentry.org/foxlolianon*Anchor your Pixiv and CivitAI here to add it in the next thread.>/adt/ CivitAIhttps://civitai.com/user/Nyan666:https://civitai.com/models/1922023/obmirsak
>>106666114Forge Iliasvel, outdated, SDXL stableReForge/ReForge2: Cool and new features, a little bit bloated but goat for image geni in SDXL recently abandonedForge Classic: DebloatedMAX, focused on SDXL genning, actively maintainedNeoForge: A fork of Forge classic but with support to newer models lik WAN FLUX Chroma or Qwen
>>106666671All this version works.If you don't mind being a little blotated go with the ReForge variants because it has a lot more of samplers and latest Controlnet, but its recently abandoned
>>106666671>>106666114 This is a personal quick guide I created for Forge. It's not the best, but I think it contains good checkpoints and extencion recommendations. https://rentry.org/quickforge
Is the state of unpozzed video gen good enough that there's a thread someplace with horrible degenerate images of heterosexual coupling (and not just "female with liquid overflowing")? Where? Is there a place to try my hand at it for free??
deleted a few of my pixiv posts that might have caused the suspension. hoping for the best
>>106667164Nyooooooo~Why’s everyone still using Pixiv for AI gens? Aren’t there any good alternatives for posting our stuff?
>>106663081https://files.catbox.moe/extg7a.png
>>106666609>OP cucked by Jewlien part 19
What I do with them?
>>106667769You read a cute manga with a bullying tan girl.
>>106667784N-nagatoro?
>>106667800https://files.catbox.moe/qedhz4.mp4
>>106667815>https://files.catbox.moe/qedhz4.mp4KINO!I don't know what Messi has to do with it, but it is KINO .
>>106667784kek I see what you did here>>106667815I browse this website for these random kino finds
>get my image gen of a character right but not happy with the quality>I guess it's kinda small lets up scale it further>oh shit that looks better>turn up the de-noise strength little by little each time between regens notcing it getting sharper and sharper>upscale again a bit further>mfw everytime it finishes generating and I look at it againHoly fuck, this tech is a pandoras box and this stuff I'm generating now blows the fuck out of the garbage I managed to produce last time I played with it years ago, I literally can't express in words how mind blowing this stuff is when you can generate close to on model official looking art of characters.
>>106668011Oh, now you're doomed to share your gen nonie~ :3
>>106668657>the shooper
>>106668699I shooped all over that image. All over it. Repeatedly.
>>106666609Thanks for the collague!
>>106667123Local anime-style video gen looks creepy as shit right now.It's not quite there yet IMO.
>>106669080Flowers sponsored by Nano Banana
Try turning your (SFW) anime slop into figurine using Nano Banana
trying some blameprompting
migu
>>106661173
wretched, disgusting thread, and posters
>>106669411Cool story, bro.See you in the next thread!
>>106669411
>>106669238like 2 weeks back was an anon turning our gens into figurines
>>106669238If I want figurines I gen figurines, no need for some tiny banana
>>106669145Can you render whatever you like, just REAAAAAAALLLLY slowly? Or do you need a beefy computer/graphics card?
>>106669335What is blame prompting?
>>106669512You need a pretty decent amount of VRAM. Even with that, it's still going to look creepy as fuck.The animation just does not look right yet for anime style.It is not worth your time and effort yet.
>>106669494oh yeah I remember that anon, he made one with one of my gens>>106669464now make another one, give her a shovel and change the text to "absolute digger"
>>106669512You wil OOOOOM anon, do you really want to OOOOM?
>>106669519Blame!
>>106666765This. This is nice, especially those extension recommendations. Thank you.Now can someone explain how to pull off those psychedelic color contrast images I see here from time to time? The ones of the Touhou girls. The tags "spot color" and "dark" aren't replicating it at all.
>>106667685Nice! Regional proompting?
>>106669512>>106669145deepbeepmeep & nsfw lorathey are somewhat correct thoughthey videos seem "off" & will require heavy cropping hahatakes around 40 min for wan 2.1 on my 3070
>>106669774He is here very often, he posted already,>>106669373 ask him! I know he uses local and NovelAI modelsIn local he use a deleted model Coco ilustriousAlso he is a VRAMlet only 4gb of VRAM don't make hin feel bad
>>106669545
>>106669895kek, nice
>>106669874Love it!!!
>>106669774here's a catbox. download the image from the link and put it in your forge PNG info tab. might work by dropping it into comfy too but not sure.https://files.catbox.moe/d6473b.png
>>106669774>>106669774>This. This is nice, especially those extension recommendations. Thank youThe only way to thanks is by posting your juicy gens, anon :3
>>106669418>>106669464>>106669895>>106670035
Anonies is there any set of tags that will make you coom instantly, and always have it ready for quickly copypaste?Mine is:{knees_together_feet_apart, female_masturbation, dress, heavy_breathing, sitting on the floor, ear pressed to wall,sitting, listening, blush, wooden_floor, looking_away, ear, toes, sole, pussy_juice, pussy_juice_stain, covering_mouth, hand_on_mouth,half-closed_door, from_below,}My instant cooming set of tags
>>106670081>Anonies is there any set of tags that will make you coom instantly1girl
>>106670066
>this is what causes that thread to get baleeted
>>106670126
>>106669957No juicy gens. Only my trusty inpainting dummy Ehnai, now with shoes and a skirt! The name's tentative by the way. Those with the most basic knowledge of Japanese may get the pun. Work and rapidfire slopgenning (more like shoving a bunch of concept LoRAs on obscure lolis to see which one breaks) proved to be too big a distraction and I fear I forgot some tips regarding mask blur and mask padding. The shoes are only there because I succumbed to Paint.NET and manually drew a very rudimentary outline. Plain inpainting kept swapping her feet otherwise. The skirt however, proved to be a piece of work despite looking...okay-ish?It occurred to me that if I'm to change her outfit I need to know where certain bits of her anatomy is, so I tried inpainting the shirt off. The following catbox links should speak for themselves but the tl;dr is that I chose the least shit one and used it as a guide on where her waist is. Now I'm at a small impasse on how to test myself next. Move her arms? Change her hair altogether? Leaning on adding suspender straps.https://files.catbox.moe/0hoonx.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/y6k5hr.png>>106669937This, I'll test out soon. Thanks! I use Forge, by the way. Here's my previous attempts.https://files.catbox.moe/nlr9x8.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/pu8sef.png
>>106670300>The shoes are only there because I succumbed to Paint.NET and manually drew a very rudimentary outline.I won.
>>106670150nyooooooooooo
>>106670389cool
>>106670150this is relevant to my interests
>>106670300Paint.NETI just tried Krita Diffusion with WAI15 via Comfy. It's like Paint with SDXL built in. Total noob, but it looks sick for inpainting details or use magnetic tools for masking. Feels more like actually inpainting on a canvas instead of just prompt dumping, also can easily work with layers and merge them.>>106670389>>106670650We need more mechs, monstergirls, and LoL girls in this thread.
>>106670746
>>106670746>We need more mechsI didn't even know AI can do mechs properly yet >>106670650 and >>106670389 are pretty nice surprises but I suspect LoRAs are few and far between.In the meantime, I did a straight gen of >>106669937, changing nothing and it came out not quite as intense but still desirable. Then I removed the Touhou and genned again. I'm guessing this is RNG like everything involving AI image generation. Damn it. Guess I'll go back to inpainting the dummy Ehnai. What does it take to change her posture? The arms at least. Please tell me I don't have to sketch out limbs next.
>>106670889maybe try putting arm support in negative or adding hands up to positive
>>106670150
I haven't seen enough real tiddies idk how the middle part should look like for downblouse
>>106671048pasted wrong layer
>>106670889These are very erotic lolis good job
>>106670817Nice gen okeaki sama!
>>106669545ToT
is there a better editor, gen than the new Gemni? IT's cucked but its the best one ive seen yet and can reliably edit the image in its original style.
is illustrious still the best one to reproduce screen shot/official art quality or did something replace that?
>>106670920I'm talking about >>106670300. I'm still trying to get the hang of the limits of inpainting. From what I saw of that OL gif here weeks ago you can go as far as change the background or even add another character altogether. Just want to change Ehnai the inpaint dummy as much as I (sensibly) can first, like making her less drab Going with "oversized clothes" as the prompt kinda kicked me in the ass in regards to easily changing her clothes but this a blue board. I'm surprised I pulled off a skirt at all but need to figure out the shirt itself.>>106671056Essentially WAI's doing, no fancy posture prompts or wildcards* involved. All I did was pare down the Touhou prompts and change the color. It isn't as fantastically intense, which is a little annoying. I see the one who started this uses a checkpoint that isn't available on Civitai. CocoNAI or something. Wonder if that's the key.*I could use wildcards. I made a basic angles one for "modeling" purposes but what do you lot work with?>>106671146Seconding this. Generating images indistinguishable from screencaps (not just the subject, but the scenery too) is a pipe dream of mine rivaling getting WAN to work on my rig.
>>106671146Aren't there models for both SD1.5 and SDXL/Illustrious that do this well? Showcase gens caught my eye on Civitai in the past. Not my interest in the slightest as I'm not a big fan of the simpler, low-budget look of most anime.
>>106671097No, today a Qwen image appeared but SaaS its Saas, lso its free in their API web
>>106671146Hello, I've been testing different models for generating anime screenshots, and I'm getting personal subjectively better results with models like Diving Illustrious Anime Flat amd Diving Illustrious Mature Anime Flat compared to WAI.Personal opinion.
>>106669564Out out out out out of memory?
>>106670889 Following up on that idea, WAI gives you this intensity with vivid colors and sharp line definition that's very NovelAI like, which I think is excellent and immersive. It's SOTA for that kind of output. But anime style doesn't always have that vividness and color intensity
>too much saturationNot an argument. Stop being allergic to image editors, they are easier to do minor edits with than anything AI-related.
I tried the WAN guide in the OP with the I2V workflowWhere do I connect the UnetLoaderGGUFDisTorchMultiGPU node?I don't see any MODEL slot
Groovy
>>106671452Oh, a phocks>>106671444Im vramlet sorry
>>106671317Thanks for the recommendation, getting nice results from quick test runs
Let's say I create a character with one of the new 'edit' models (Qwen edit, Gemini 2.5 Flash Image, Flux Kontext). Eventually I get like, 30 or 40 pictures of the character that look good enough. Variety of expressions, outfits, the subject remains recognizable enough. So I want to make an illustrious lora. But how would I get around upscaling those images and inpainting so the dataset looks good enough? Some of the pictures are a bit grainy
>>106671345this.repetition_penalty=1.1;
>>106671551Wow, surreal man, that glowing skin that contrast, that everything...
>>106671627Yes, it's a underrated model an /aicg/ botmaker recomended it to me, and I use it very often
>>106671663Don't overcook your dataset. Some quality variation actually helps the model generalize better . For backgrounds, throw in 5-10 simple ones (plain white, basic gradients, etc) this helps the model learn to isolate your subject and the tagging must be be consistent but don't go full autist, focus on the important stuff , 30-40 images is workable but I'd gen another 10-15 simple portraits orheadshots for better stability and that slight grain you mentioned i think its not go ti brick your training if your captions are decent and you're using proper reg images. I've trained on way worse Your dataset sounds fine, maybe add a few more simples and you're golden
>>106671883why is she pregnant
Perspective is kinda borked but I'm done throwing hours at this. The first gen had the hair and skirt? as if she's leaning forward or standing in front of the viewer instead of directly looking up.I lowered the image by 20 pixels, drew the hair to float back instead of hang down, and enlarged the frills, in an attempt to do "from really above". I liked the coloring of the original lower hair and frills but I'm too noob to restore.
>>106672194initial
Hey bros, thinking of getting into genning again and maybe pulling Comfy, but is it worth it? I kind of want to check out some new models but I also want my old stuff to keep working, and I heard there are supposedly bugs with SDXL support while browsing previous threads. >>106663650Were they always there or introduced with newer updates?
>>106670150what model is this? I love how this looks
>>106672428Citron Anime Treasure (NAIV2) https://civitai.com/models/131986?modelVersionId=1756306
>>106672456thank you, anon
what sucks about baking these threads is that i can't get excited about whether my gen will make the collage or not anymore
Is Qwen as censored as Nano Banana?
>>106670389>>106670650Good Stuff (TM)
>>106669840No, actually. It resulted from combining "drop shadow, eyed silhouette, abstract, different shadow", plus rerolling far too many times for a nice seed.
I'm checking in. What does the modern high effort anime workflow look like? After Qwen Image Edit came out, I'm curious if people use it to edit/fix things. For instance, maybe instead of manual inpainting, use Qwen to fix fingers, wonky objects, etc.
come on guys, i'm not seeing enough ToT
>>106673366Look, I think nothing really changes in that aspect. People here still keep using SDXL for inpainting because those models like Qwen or Flux, besides being heavy, are light-years behind in aesthetic for weeb anime styles. So it's pointless if you inpaint a hand and the result is a generic hand with generic palette colors or generic lineart.At most, you can take that Qwen or Flux inpaint and run it through an SDXL layer afterwards, but the time you spent doing all that, you could've done it with SDXL in one minute.
>>106673366There are some anons here who use those models to generate scenes and then ControlNet them, but I realized that this type of scenes in heavy censored models or SaaS are 'soft' scenes, yeah, they're intelligently and coherently composed, but they're soft
>>106672386What do you want to use Comfy or any UI for? If it's just for generating and editing anime images, any UI works fine.But ComfyUI for img2img, editing, or using ControlNet/Adetailer (which are super common for anime generation) is extremely painful to set up in Comfy.If you want to generate videos, Comfy or Comfy through Swarm and NeoForge will work. The pros of Comfy are that it has extensions and nodes that make generations faster. The cons are dealing with all the nodes, dependencies, and Python setup stuff...
>>106673661Why don't you just censor her pussy? I bet she has nice feet and nice legs to show off :3
>>106673741i'm currently doing a tight cunny gens so i can make tight cunny lora out of it since i don't like how the cunny looks.
>>106673832ToT loli tummyToT loli thighs>>106673851Based we need The officialTM cunny repository with specially curated cunny tight pussies
>>106673668Seriously, did any of you try this? Waiufags??
STRONKEST
>>106674192>fat adult Cirno Please, have mercy on my dick saar
>>106673668Don’t do it nonnie nothing good will come of itDon’t make deals with demons it never works out
>gen for 8 hours straight from dusk till dawnWonderfull >Work for 8 hours for moneyPlease kill me
>>106674250try to find a job where you're mostly on standby until something fucks up, it gives you plenty of time to do other shit like genning.
If you spam 10+ low-effort gens per thread, you're a bad person who should feel bad and is making the thread worse.
>>106674192Nice, is that you?>>106672456
>>106674250Totaly related, why does gen its so addictive or so refreshing? Ican spend 12 hours streight genning without feeling tired
>>106674761Yes?
>>106674694Jobs for gooners? I need to gen right now and i'm woorking
>>106674771Ok, I thought those CAT Citroen anime models were slop, but seeing your gen makes me want to try it!
>>106672194At least you put some effort in, and I appreciate that.Most people here do not.
>>106674770You are likely addicted to the gacha-like nature of rerolling seeds.
>>106674814Hmm, I didn't know that. I reroll a maximum of 5 seeds if the model doesn't understand what I want, but then I 'marry' to one seed and work on that generation until I'm happy with it using all the tools, hi res, adetailer, inpaint, etc.
>>106674867I'll usually do 100+ rolls then spend hours fixing up one seed. Having high standards is suffering.
https://huggingface.co/nunchaku-tech/nunchaku-sdxlVRAMlet bross our prayers were hearded!
>>106674898>100+ rolls Wow, yes having high standars it's suffering
>>106674946@Oekaki-sama now you can gen and do hiresfix!
Hiresfix is completely unnecessary for high resolution gens.
>>106674770Its being creative with added spaghetti wrangling (I like it)Also there’s no push to deliver, so its all very relaxed
>>106674996I hate you ontologicallyHiresfix is god itself helpibg gooners have better gensYou can always use hires fix no mater the res
>>106675226It's completely unnecessary. It simply automates what can be done manually at the cost adding additional processing time to a gacha roll, which is undesirable.
>>106675087It is strange dont kniw if we are exercising the creativity or if we are improving some skill, it is very rare this.
>>106675311Anon, hires fix upscales your image to x2 x4 x8 or x16 depending on the model. Then it downsize it again automatically and apply noise to clean up some edges or modify bigger things depending on what you need.That upscaling process x2 x4 or x8 is magical and unique, plus you can select other more sensitive samplers like the DPM+ SDE line or prompts.REPENT!
>>106675389It both produces inferior results to adding detail manually via inpainting AND adds processing time (because it's combining multiple functions into a single gacha roll) to gacha rolls which can fuck up the image and require a re-roll.It's straight up inferior to simply genning => upscaling => inpainting, unless you're lazy and just want to click gen once then post whatever it spits out.When you add detail via inpainting instead of hiresfix, if your gacha roll fucks up the image, the reroll just takes a few seconds because it's not combining a bunch of shit into a gacha roll like hiresfix does.Rerolls taking forever suck ass and aren't even worth it when the result is visually inferior to just genning => upscaling => inpainting.
I find that the typical hiresfix run adds just as many errors to the image, if not moreso, than it fixes. These errors then require inpainting anyways.Might as well just do a plain upscale of the original gen then inpaint, skipping the hiresfix step altogether.Hiresfix => inpaint doesn't look any better than plain upscale => inpaint, but hiresfixing takes significantly longer than a plain upscale. Hiresfixing also sometimes necessitates rerolls, which a plain upscale never does.
>>106675342Well its both, you’re getting more knowledgable by doing this fun thing?
>>106675444You're relying too much on your talent if you think things are 100% finished from the first process and only with upscaler with 0 denoise. When I do hires-fix I usually generate normally and if I'm happy with it, then I hit the little star button where it does its process.0.2 and 0.3 hires-fix is a success.
For me it's Kohya hires, despite how finicky it is.
>>106675582>if you think things are 100% finished from the first process and only with upscaler with 0 denoiseI certainly didn't imply this.
are there no good browser based image animation sites yet?
>>106675861There's no good anime-style AI animation, period, yet.
Just a reminder that CivitAI Helper is broken on Forge Classic
>>106667341Thanks!!!!! I downloaded it now, nonie!!!>>106676940Use Neo, is fixed in that>CivitAI Helper is broken on Forge Classicin the hithub repo is the fix for classic but bad labbeled under neo, neo fix was poster in /ad/t
>>106677070>Use Neolol @ using Windows
>>106677145Don't understand, you use linux? Why don't you use ReForge? It's bloated but for image gen is great!
>>106677395Yes, I use Linux, and I do use Reforge.
>>106675226I've seen hires fix make images worse.
>>106677620I've had it make my images worse at 0.1 denoise. That's why I don't use it. It's simply not worth the processing time.
>>106677634I use it on selected images to check if it improves them / fix some minor issue.Sometimes, it works.
>>106677493So? If you only use SDXL, you don't have to worry about staying in ReForge forever. Did you know that Reforge is the only A111 variant that includes the latest ControlNet?
>discussing HiRes.Fix>in the official thread of '1girl, cowboy shot' or '1girl, erotic part of the body focus'For those who criticize HiRes.Fix, try not using it when the image is full body, you will see that something will always go wrong. There are even models that already recommend it using it like Prefect series and Nova,
>>106677717There are also models that recommend using comically long lists of schizo negs. That doesn't mean that doing so is a good idea.
>>106677717There still is no point in using it while gacha rolling. Finetuning is a different thing.
Back when I used hiresfix, I noticed that inpainting over hiresfix's results added even more detail.Then I figured out that you end up with the same amount of detail whether you inpaint over hiresfix's results or you inpaint over a plain upscale.So hiresfix is fucking pointless unless you're a lazy slop spammer who gens with hiresfix then posts its result, dozens of errors and all.
>>106677556kekaroo
i just simply dont upscale or worry about all this shit yall talkin about
>106677961DELET THIS
>>106677985Nyyyyyyyyooooooooo >:3
>>106666632https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/1661492I’ve finally gotten around to getting my pixiv up to date, so I might as well share it now.It’s all Tamamos. Technically SFW, if suggestive.
>>106678099Niiiice, I deleted the hag because of this! Good things happen!
>>106678099Amazing tamamo gen as always.
Does the picrel mouth expression has any tag/name in a booru?
>>106678804https://tagexplorer.github.io
Trying Krita Diffusion. I read the manual, but now I'm just feeling too lazy to learn another UI. My brain's kinda stuck on it. :(
>>106679047>>106678804
>>106679047I see Soichiro Yamamoto vibes in your gens. Are you implementing his style?
>>106678873>>106679061I'll try to find this, thanks.
>>106678873>https://tagexplorer.github.ioNeat! Thanks for posting that.
I hope everyone's shupogaki pulls went well today
>>106679209I wanna lick these stomachs and massage these thighs
>>106679180>>106678873It is in the OP NONIES!
>>106679209Child tummies ToT
>>106679227as a tummy enthusiast... same, anon, same>>106679252ToT
>>106679289Child pits ToT
SNEED
>>106679306>filenameSwarm bro?
>>106679047I see shitty looking eyes in all of your gens. Are you implementing the shitty_looking_eyes tag?
>>106679382I'm using Forge Classic
>>106679399And why the prompt in the filename? Strange..
>>106679390What the hell? BakerAnon's eyes style are literally the best part.
>>106679446>What the hell? My eyes are literally the best part.They're low-quality slop eyes.
>>106679507how are you making this?
>>106679092no, but i'm curious how you see his style in my gens>>106679390>>106679512how rude!>also nogen
>>106679047This particulary gen, but maybe because of similarity between characters>>106679622
MOBILE SUIT GUNDAM SNEED'S FEED AND SEED
>>106679522Well this one took a ton of wrangling and poking at numbers to roll for things to look right, after picking a seed where the composition looks okay. The model doesn't know how to get arms completely above breastsManaged to only need to inpaint the top curve of her tiddies, which gave me solid circles.btw metadata of >>106679507 has one thing broken, should be 1024 height (idk how it says 960), everything else the same
What is /adt/ veredict in this?
>>106679446ai does weird shit to anime eyes so the eyes are really the primary hallmark of slop - if you're wondering if an anime styled image is ai or not just look at the eyes as it almost always gives it awaythe two eyes' designs fail to match each other in ways they never would with human artists drawing them and there's often weirdly misshapen blobs of color that humans would never drawthe eyelashes are also often fucked up in ways humans would never fuck them upall of these things combine to give ai generated eyes that unmistakable aislop lookthese things can be fixed and you can produce eyes that look like a skilled human artist drew them but it takes time and effortwhen i see typical aislop eyes i know that the person who genned them is either too lazy to fix them or doesn't possess the attention to detail necessary to realize they look fucked upto be fair, the vast, vast majority of people who post in these threads (and who post ai images in general on the internet) all post completely fucked up looking eyes so it's not just him
>>106679681WOW, that's some next level tag wrangling, didn't know that NAI had that. Pushing weights to 2 is serious business. You are real tagmaster, anon.
>>106679683I've completely overlooked the suggestions from LORA makers to set that to 2 before and gotten perfectly fine results with it set to 1. Never seemed to make a huge difference to me.
>>106679683unneeded since sdxl
>>106679702examplesfix this shit if you don't want your shit looking like slopthis is actually constructive criticism
u feeling ok? how many fingers am i holding up anon? ....anon??
>>106680055Twelveteen?
>>106680084>chris-farley_THATisC0RRECT-stripping.gif
I'm genning lonely foxgirl healers peeing after drinking too much beer and you can't stop me (from having erotic fun)
alright i fixed the issue of having shitty eyes
She's abducting the knight to guard her while she is peeing, an animal might attack from behind so he needs to keep watchhttps://files.catbox.moe/vtbqdl.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/c3i4cs.png
>>106680260to be fair your gens are creative enough to have value even with shitty eyes
>>106680285>>106680207please which model!
>>1066803243wolfmondaiSDG, it's on civit, from /trash/, but the style isn't guaranteed, Plantmilk - flax is also greatworkflow should be on the catbox
>>106679958Thanks for this, I'll keep that in mind.Instead of "The mark of the beast" "The mark of the slop"
>>106680344Man, this is ULTRA erotic
>>106680324https://files.catbox.moe/vd4a8n.pngDrunk annoyed fox
>>106680350The twins have been trough a lot, their weird.
>>106680363>>106680353Nice style and nice digits
>>106680345>"The mark of the slop"haha yeahit used to be the wrong number of fingers (or toes) but everyone caught onto that real quickly and now most people know to look for that and inpaint thatnow it's eyes
>>106680403ty ty( traditional media, hatching, pastel colors,) is def one of my favs to stick in the prompt
>>106680344>>106680363based twins enjoyer
>>106680502This is very good, so this is the model that is atached to the metadata you shared, thank you very much!
>>106680514ty, I hope you have fun with it, /trash/ are pretty cool people even though they have weird tastes.lots of catboxes
>>106680482(can you switch their underwear maybe? just as a joke? xd)
>>106680545yeah, not too hard, just takes a bit of inpainting
>>106680141i know its a boomer joke but i did think it was funny
I think some misunderstand why people dislike AI slop. It's not just because it has AI artifacts. It's also because it just looks boring. It looks like an average of styles. Most art is also boring, but AI makes that fact painfully worse because it outputs and is spammed so much. Even if you do your best to fix an image, eliminate all AI tells, it's still slop if the style isn't unique. And the other thing about AI slop is that it often looks too perfect in certain aspects, which adds to the boring/typical slop feel. Kind of like how people prefer even photorealistic 2D art to 3D art. We see 3D visuals every day, it's not interesting in the way that strokes of a brush filled with intention is, which we as humans implicitly can tell.
>>106680633very cute, so now they stole each other's underwear at least
>>106680678oh yeah I've made a few pics about them doing that before kek
>>106680641>it's still slop if the style isn't uniqueI strongly disagree, but I'm aware there are those who think this way. I have never thought that art needs to be unique to be enjoyable. If something looks nice, it looks nice, period, regardless of if it looks similar to something else or not. Same goes for music. Good music just sounds good, even if it sounds "retro," and I've always thought that people who instantly dismiss music because it sounds like something done before are retards.I also think it's significantly less important for an image to look unique if it's trying to be erotic. That's not to say that it can't be art if it's erotic and not unique - the pursuit of beauty itself is artistic.
>>106680641I'm not gonna argue that you have no point, since you have. I cannot imagine having the aimed attention one has with drawing by hand, getting all the lines where one wants, getting the expressions of multiple people right etc.This will, I think, always be the case.But lord am I glad I gen 90% for myself, and 10% to show other anons what I found amusing on this retarded old ass-crack on the internet
>its slop if i decide it is as, i, am the sole arbiter of what is considered sloppaplease return 2 civitai or leddit
New to proompting. Trying to recreate https://civitai.com/images/38387397 in SwarmUI but it's just giving me https://files.catbox.moe/v9rcuz.pngI know I can't just drop Civitai files in swarm and expect it to be exactly the same but I don't know why it's not giving me the more anime look. Got a 5070ti if that helps.
slop can have sovl, too
>>106680641>Kind of like how people prefer even photorealistic 2D art to 3D art.I don't think this is that deep. 3D models/animation just look like shit. Simple as. They don't look good. Even Pixar-level doesn't look good. It just doesn't. There's nothing deep about this. It just looks like shit.
>>106680730it can, very much>>106680729it's not uncommon that people only post part of what they did on a picture, maybe lower or drop the incase style lora more, are you using all the lora they used?
>>106680730subject matter\composition impact soul levelsi enjoy happy accidents :3>>106680637hehe
>>106680758Yeah, I am. I tried with other pictures and they look 90% the same so I don't know what's wrong with this one. Should be fine too since it's using the Civitai generator.
>>106680793It's a gacha puzzle, am I understanding the other one's look fine? then try a few rolls I'd say, I too get some wild swings in styles sometimes, I blame my prompts, but this all is a puzzle nonetheless, especially if you want to recreate something near exact
>it's shit if it's not uniqueI feel like this is some postmodernist bullshit and postmodernism is societal and artistic cancer which uglifies culture and causes people to take less pride in their culture. Postmodernism is weaponized specifically because it causes people to take less pride in their culture.Beautiful things are beautiful. Ugly things are ugly. Ugly things aren't beautiful because they're unique. Beautiful things aren't ugly because they're not unique.
if only unique things are beautiful then explain why twins are so beautiful
I'm keking right now at a Deviantart poster not even bothering to remove the obvious watermark that almost perfectly replicates the copied artist's watermark from their gen.Like, bro...
>>106666609gonna need a catbox of that dorothy gen on the right
>>106680897I see no problems
had to use seedream to actually slice the fruits
>>106680705In this context, slop is being used as a synonym for the typical. That doesn't mean it's necessarily bad or not enjoyable, like junk food, just that people dislike it because it's so samey on top of the other AI issues. The brain likes (good) novelty.>>106680723I wish others genned like that as well. AI in public posting is at its best when it's used for fun and bizarre stuff instead of as a replacement for human art, while in private it allows you to visualize things on paper that you couldn't before as a non-artist.>>106680738Maybe it's a different kind of deep we're talking about. In my mind, the intention seen in works subconsciously is rooted in biology and evolutionary instinct. It's not that you actively think of someone's intention and find that interesting, but rather that because it was made with intention, the art has attributes to it that are simply just more interesting to the brain. We are just wired to find things that have coincidentally have more intention as more aesthetically interesting (which is really just a function of the artist recognizing novel ways of messing with their art, in a way that is congruous with audiences). Hence "soul vs soulless", which isn't just a meme.Most 3D art is bad though, but for instance if we're comparing the same style for style, the 2D concept art will always be more interesting and attractive than the 3D reproduction.
> I made this>I am an artistI swear!
>>106680831Who are you quoting?
>>106681051>Hence "soul vs soulless", which isn't just a meme.It absolutely is a meme, because it's fucking meaningless.It means something different to everyone.Yes, you articulated what you think it is, but that's just what you think it is. It means something completely different to other people.It's a meme and it's a lazy meme for people who can't articulate what they actually like about something. "Soul" is used as a meaningless crutch of a word.When someone says, like, "oh, you know, soul is like that intangible something that art has, man," like, no. It's intangible to you because you're a fucking retard. If you had an IQ over 100 you could articulate what you like about it in concrete terms with actual meaning.To use a guitar analogy, a retard would say "David Gilmour's guitar playing is so soulful, man."A non-retard would say "David Gilmour's guitar playing is expressive because he is skilled at string bending, vibrato and tremolo bar usage."
>>106681051>AI in public posting is at its best when it's used for fun and bizarre stuff instead of as a replacement for human artWhen produced by someone with skill, AI art is a perfectly reasonable, valuable replacement for human art when good human art of a particular character and exhibiting a particular theme doesn't exist.I also think that, at some point, a line is crossed where once a human puts enough effort into a gen, it becomes "AI-assisted art" instead of "AI-generated art," and there's yet another line where once a human puts enough effort into a gen, it becomes human art and AI was just one of multiple tools used to create it.Like, people producing images with the help of AI have control over all seven formal elements of photography. Photography is universally considered an art now. Therefore, there's no reason why producing images with the help of AI can't be considered a human artform as well.
>>106681156>all seven formal elements of photography...which are just the seven formal elements of art, with the word "tone" replacing the word "value" but meaning the same thing.Humans have full control over all seven elements of art when producing images using AI through a combination of prompting, Controlnet use and image editor use.AI is a tool which can be used to produce real, human art which should not be pigeonholed under the term "AI art."
>>106680641>It's not just because it has AI artifactsI think you're being mislead because the AI artifacts are absolutely a massive, major part of the "slop" moniker.>And the other thing about AI slop is that it often looks too perfect in certain aspects,It absolutely fucking does not. I don't know where this idea came from because it's the wildest goddamn cope. There is no such thing as "looks too perfect." It probably looks "too good" for someone with no submitted works but "too perfect" just means that "wow it's a professional render." (also anyone who even says that about AI generated shit are probably too high on their own farts and have no real knowledge where art is concerned)slop vs not slop comes down entirely to the amount of actual tangible effort put into something. Style being unique absolutely helps but you can still have stylized slop if there's no effort or thought put into it.Hell, you can put hours into something and it'll still be generic slop if it's just doing something default with nothing unique(read: 1character, default outfit, standing, doing nothing) even if it's stylized and perfectly on model.
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>>106681123I didn't say it's not a meme, I said "not just a meme". It's a meme in many cases where people have used it, like you mentioned. It's not a meme in others when it's actually meaningfully backed by explanation, and there are discussions where that has happened, where someone has a good explanation in addition to using the meme at the same time. It doesn't happen nearly as often, of course. It's like our discussion right now. We are discussing "slop" with an amount of well-reasoned depth, but most of the time across the internet, it's used to berate something the person doesn't personally like.>>106681156>When produced by someone with skill, AI art is a perfectly reasonable, valuable replacement for human art when good human art of a particular character and exhibiting a particular theme doesn't exist.And indeed I wouldn't call effortful creations like that just AI if could.>>106681270>AI artifacts are absolutely a massive, major part of the "slop" monikerNever said it wasn't. I do believe the artifacts are at the moment still the biggest problem, but it's not a simple issue of fix the artifacts, and people suddenly stop disliking AI, although it will definitely get better. My point is the spam and lack of unique style or other intentional aspects of art is also a pretty big problem of why people don't like AI. I didn't explicitly mention the other aspects of art because I wanted to keep my post a bit shorter, but I was trying to imply it. I see why my wording was flawed now.>It absolutely fucking does notYou misunderstand. The way I used "too perfect" is like how people call things that are formulaic, algorithmic, artificial, synthetic, etc, as too perfect. A lot of AI images have details and greebles that are overdone, the models insert features that are geometrically imperfect like the blobs in eyes, but that are too perfect in the sense that most artists would not go to the effort of including them, for good reasons.
>>106681497>I didn't say it's not a meme, I said "not just a meme".But it is just a meme.>It's not a meme in others when it's actually meaningfully backed by explanationLike I said, it means something different for everyone. This means it has no meaning.It doesn't matter if someone backs it with explanation, because thousands of other people have thousands of other meanings for it.It's a meaningless linguistic crutch of a word used as a lazy replacement for accurate articulation of something concrete and definable. It shouldn't be used, even if you can explain what you mean by it. If you can explain what you mean by it, just say that in the first place rather than the meaningless meme word.
>>106680641>It's also because it just looks boring. It looks like an average of styles."all rook same" hasn't been an issue for a long time. you can see that in this very threadyou're retarded
hello sirs. what's going on in this thread?
>>106681010>>106681047>>106681060u 'avin a giggle m8?
>>106670650catbox please
>>106681656https://files.catbox.moe/68h7k6.pngits an NAI gen so I dunno how useful the catbox will be honestly...guess i could see if i can replicate it locally
>>106681591I never mentioned this thread or the people that post here. >>106681528I agree that the world could use more well-defined and articulated use of language. I'll agree to disagree that these words literally mean something different to everyone. If you haven't been in discussions where your definition of it matched well with other folk, that's too bad, but I have experienced it and certainly more than once, so from an anecdotal perspective, it historically isn't just a meme to me. Neither is "AGI", "art", and other such terms, even if I do wish people would better define them in the start of a discussion to prevent the sometimes heated arguments that turned out to just be different beliefs about what the terms mean. Your ire for memes is understandable.
>>106679702>>106679958i appreciate the criticismi'll look into it. not sure where to start though
>>106679702>misshapen blobs of color that humans would never drawask me how I know you're not an artist.
>>106682469He's not an artist. Must be that anon with OCD who draws feet with ControlNet and they always turn out shit and not sexy at all because they look forced as fuck and unnatural.
>>106682429I like your gens, they have aesthetic and SOUL, at the end of the day I remember them.Just because it's slop or looks sloppy doesn't mean the gen is bad.Lots of people trying to be artists get lost in the technique maze, developing perfect technique with no meaning that people just forget.
>>106681606SEXOWho are you?SEXO
>>106681046Its an editing model seedream?
>>106680729Swarn uses Comfy and Comfy uses noise via CPUIs the image in Civit is via WebUI they use noise via GPU
>>106682166Cute nice color theme
>>106682769Right hand has six fingersFix it
>>106682904How do you make them so cute?
>>106681606sex with mute fox
>>106673366>use Qwen to fix fingers, wonky objects, etc.Unless you have enough vram to run the Qwen full model, it's going to be slow as shit and you will need to gacha it a few times. And that's without accounting it will hurt the whole image's qualityIt's still faster to just inpaint it in Krita and be done if you are a vramlet, ie a 5090-let
>>106683320Beautifull>>106683343PLAPfull>>106683243Creativelyfull
>>106684626Shizofull
>>106683320This is ultra kino artstyle
>>106683343Reading tip this gen made me think about https://mangadex.org/chapter/97d7254b-771a-4eb9-92c6-4f5f1cdb855d/3(School Ningyo)If you want a horror manga with amazing fluid movent and school swimwear
Friendly to not put watermarks in negative prompts, it fucks up image quality.Remove that in the later stages
>>106684802>those eyes>sloppy hands>sky changeAAAAIIIIIIEEEEE cant unsee this shit now!
>>106684829>>106684802I’m just gonna assume the quality is reversely correlated to how much fun anon is having, so great gen!
>>106685033Im this anon >>106684802Literally suffering through the worst of it, using regional prompts to impress /adt/ ,make them admire me, and plap cute /adt/ girls. Not doing it for fun.What do you think of my gen?
>>106681010catbox?
>>106685135Well I’m not going to point out the weird wings, the massive inpainting spot, the 3 different styles in one picture, the not detailed two girls to the side, and various other thingsI think its neat you get inspiration from the thread and wish you happy genningOne might try out different cfg and denoise strengths on the genning, and be sure to look for artist loras you might already know, to try and save, on your ssd, at home, where they are safe next to your checkpoints and cant dissapear on a whimGood luck, things will get easier quickly Having fun is maybe the most important
>>106685156It was eh…Plantmilk-flax with a butt-basic prompt including ‘patreon logo’
>>106685241i like the boobs size, proportion is great
>>106682429>not sure where to start thoughMy suggestion would be to reroll masked only inpaints of both eyes at once with denoise somewhere from 0.3 to 0.5 until you get a seed that gives you a minimal amount of errors, then edit out those minimal errors with an image editor, then do a final inpaint over the eyes with denoise at like 0.1 or 0.15.
>>106685135>and plap cute /adt/ girls.where?
>>106685234I want you to be more toxic.This bratty anon needs to be taught!
>>106685267It was a butt-simple prompt and they (imho) really show some raw checkpoint quality sometimes >>106685301I’m really not good with that, I’m sure they can see for themselves its a slopped mess.But I loudly cheer every nonners that starts diffusing anime grills so please, post moreIm not behind a screen rn so I cant share simple workflow but keep trucking goldstriker!
Baker, are you around, or are you asleep?We hit the bump limit. I'm here and will chill until page 8 to start baking if you're not around.
>>106666609Can anyone help me out?this scaler8x_NMKD-Superscale_150000_Gis peaking my 16gig vram and is making gens take a few minutes now on comfyui. Temp drops to under 45c so I'm guessing its purely vram bottleneck. I've researched it a little but I didn't see much documentation or guidelines for this upscalerare there settings I can do to reduce this, or guidelines for image in and image out resolution?
>>106685398What resolution are you upscaling to?
>>106685398I don't believe the model itself is responsible for the VRAM issue because, as upscaling to that resolution is typical for 16 VRAM( I do the same with 12Vram). I suspect that during the HiRes process, when the image reaches the final upscaled resolution before denoising, that might be where the problem lies. For me more than 3px is VRAM destroyer
>>106685351so no breast/age/body type prompts? that's neat
>>106680534I will take a look!
>>106680534>Im loooooooming>>106680555>>106680260you have talent, nonie
>using Swarm canvas>inpating>working with layers>erase the stuff I dislike from the layers using the rubber>then reposition the layer to align with this "exact good part that I liked">adjust opacity to check if it blends well and blend with the rest of the imageWell, I think I've turned into a filthy shooper.
>>1066854151200x1800 by 1.5
>>106685488There's nothing quite like the feeling of edging all day and, at the end, shooting off the perfect shoop.
>>106685501So, 1200x1800 is the starting resolution and you're upscaling that by 1.5, so to 2700 vertical res?If that's the case, try limiting vertical res to 2160 or less, see if that helps.There's little reason to go past 2160 for vertical res since that's what a 4k display is.
>>106685527thanks for the helpis there an advised scale ratio to get the most out of the starting resolution and upscaler?
>>106685510kek
>>106685566These are the recommended starting values for your initial gen.While Illustrious-based models can do initial gens at 1536x1536, they're also still trained to do these lower resolutions, and it's best to use these lower resolutions to cut down on gacha roll time.If you gen, upscale then inpaint over every inch of the upscale, the amount of detail in the end will be the same if you started from 1024x1024 or 1536x1536, so might as well save a lot of time finding the perfect seed at the start going with the lower resolution.
>>106685501You are edging the SDXL and WAI capabilities nonie, I always stay safe between 1024~1536ish resolution
>>106685587>>106685730thanks, this is what i couldn't figure outi'll stay lower and keep under 4k upscale too
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