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>Software Development & Programming
DevDocs - https://devdocs.io/
Stack Overflow Blog - https://stackoverflow.blog/

>IT Operations & Infrastructure
https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
https://status.cloud.google.com/

Previous: >>106658956
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white people be like
>ugh I hate this job that pays me insane money to sit on my ass and tap a few keys
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so, i've been watching the movie a few anons mentioned in the last thread, and it's literally
>jannie, japan
can't believe you tricked me into watching this
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>>106670722
crazy how arch ricers do this shit and yet there is NOTHING productive happening on that screen
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Hi got a question for you
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Why did obama ruin the tech market bros?
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>>106670830
there's nothing productive happening on your screen either
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>Telepresence rooms are highly recommended for this virtual meeting
how about no
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>>106671159
>>Telepresence rooms
are they asking me to goon in vrchat with them?
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Sprint retro was today, everyone was required to attend AND speak. Lots of congratulations to everyone for doing so well. Lots of guidance on how certain things need to NOT happen again, and we need to do better. Me and at least one other guy didn't really have much to say, and didn't pretend otherwise. These fucking female scrum masters.
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>>106670830
I just got into Arch, can someone break down what exactly is going on in the OP gif? Also, what is the media player depicted therein
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quick call?
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>>106670739
pain is relative, but yeah its annoying
>>106670864
It wasn't obama but actually his alien tech tan suit piloting him like a puppet.
>>106671223
"What could be better"
"Hmm seems like this one keeps popping up"
repeat every 2 weeks lmao
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>>106671237
installed a window manager and a bunch of glorified screensavers for them
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Why can't y'all make fun of jews and arabs again
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>>106670739

While accurate, it completely ignores the real problem with IT. The users.

I support a small water district. Old manager was a 30 something woman. Told her stuff once, she took notes, got shit done. Work week was 20 hours. She left to be a mother.


They replaced her with a 50 something woman with a masters. She said she’s pulling 50 some hours and falling behind. I always kept old managers data so new folks can look back for useful sheets and notes they took. She spread her data across 3 managers folders, and 2 different one drive accounts. Complains she cant find anything.


Offer to sit down with her and sort it out. She arrives 20 minutes late at 9:50. I ask her what we should start with. She says “let me thing for a second”. I swear it was 2-3 minutes of silence. I make a suggestion and she says “ hold on let me think”. Then she lists 6 different things ins 6 different places. I start with the first and she says “hold on, dont move it, im afraid ill lose it”.

So i decide to look at her email since shes afraid she got hacked. 200 users in her microsoft account. Delete them, reset her email pssword. Scan and dism, reboot. Now her pin is invalid. Guess she made her windows account a microsoft account and didnt tell me. Okay, reset pin. Button doesnt work. Look online for 2 hours for various ways to bypass the pin. You cant. Recreated her profile and installed applications and left. 5 hours of work and nothinf accompished.
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I have one concern
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>>106671340
thanks linkedinGPT
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>>106671340
>i had strong opinions on how someone manages their time/data and then broke their account for literally no reason. im a tech GAWD
a real IT Chad would have just showed her how to make shortcuts, checked the "user must reset password at next logon" box in AD, and then swiped some cash out of her purse when she wasnt looking
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>>106671377
>checked the box in AD
What in the jeeted up bullshit is this?
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>>106671377

She emailed me 3 times with 8 runon paragraphs explaining how previous managers had no idea what they were doing and needed me to sort it out. They have 2 pcs in the office so just simple local user accounts. I guess she called microsoft and they had her make a new user profile and make it an online microsoft account and never told me.

She has repeatedly multi billed people in the town. Other contractors who work with her have asked me what i thought of her and went on long rants about her. She was arguing with a master electrician about how she had a cellular chip in her pc to get verizon internet. She has an ethernet cable and its spectrum lmao.

Her grandson was visiting for a week and she insisted on a vpn so she could still work her normal hours.
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>>106671377

Oh also i had reset her password to her microsoft account. But she had a pin set, which also reset but was never given an option to define it. All attempts to bypass pin and use a password failed. Windows hello is a scourge.
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>>106671435
people like these need a crib with higher bars at their adult daycare
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>>106671435
>>106671456
and i thought IT where I work is bad. at least we use active directory and have a proper teams enclave for "wfh", lmao
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>>106670739
>>ugh I hate this job that pays me insane money to sit on my ass and tap a few keys
whites seek meaning. soulless, purposeless keyboard touching is not a real end game. white men know this. women know this.
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i don't understand the people who post in these threads complaining about having to work in the office. when you work in person you get to see all the homely milfs with visible panty lines walking around the office. just a single glance of panty lines on some mom's lumpy ass in too-tight khakis, or the impression of tight underwear cupping the ass cheeks of a pert hr lady, would make it worth going in for eight hours a day.

it's so fucking unfair. everybody gets to see hot office panty lines but me. why don't i ever get call backs on my applications to these places. it's not like i put anything about panty lines in the resume, even though that is my primary goal for getting hired anywhere where my physical presence is required

i need to see visible panty lines
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learn a trade
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>>106671340
>Guess she made her windows account a microsoft account and didnt tell me.

you have no controls on your workstations so tard users can't fuck shit up? you deserve every bit of that tard fuckery. doubly so if they have admin access.

>>106671420
yes. there is literally a position in some companies where retards stare at an active directory gui resetting passwords and adding users to security groups 8 hours a day. I mean I yell at the tards to learn how to script the shit but they dont listen. I sometimes lock them out just to see them complain. they could check the domain controller logs to see im fucking with them but they don't know how.
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>>106671845
you use the MONEY gained from the job to do that outside of work
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>standup lasted 1.5 HOURS today
i wanna quit so fucking much
if there was one good thing about being in-office, our standup meeting room was booked solid so we couldnt be there more than 20 minutes
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>>106670830
2/3 of the screen is covered with screensavers
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>>106672285
How the fuck did it last that long and why didn't you leave earlier
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>>106672068
>I mean I yell at the tards to learn how to script the shit but they dont listen.
by that do you mean you sit in powershell threads and chimp out that "rm -rf" doesnt work
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>every 8 months I land a remote job
>its the 8th month, just finished an interview and waiting to hear back if I got the job

Please for the love of god, I want to eat delicious foods again
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>>106670739
>pays me insane money to sit on my ass and tap a few keys
im a senior c++ engineer from poland and i make just 60k usd. it's not sitting on an ass and typing a few keys, we do serious work here.
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>>106672580
why every 8 months?
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>>106670739
I’m not working for free, jeet
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>>106672613
That's how long it takes for him to destroy the business from the inside
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>>106672613
I dont know man

>>106672623
Kek. Funny enough 1 business went under but that happened years after I worked there (they kept hiring indians overseas)
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Do you go for contract jobs on indeed? This place is full of bots tbw
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>>106670831
>>106671264
>>106671343
>>106671987

Love this guy
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I contend that an Indian accent is the funniest shouting accent
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>burned out after 6 years working here
>done zero programming on my free time in years
>no interest in being up to date or following news anymore
>all free time is spent reading, working out and fishing
I got a job offer with better pay but I don't know if this could in any way reignite my, let's say liking instead of love, for programming or just be a death sentence and end up fired shortly after accepting it.
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>>106672863
Welcome to being an adult. Besides you need a proper long term project to work on to be motivated. That or a job goal to give you the boost in motivation.
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>>106672706
No, that would be career suicide. I'm not some nigger.
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programmers be like
>but I don't LOVE programming any more...
Motherfucker ALL WORK IS SUFFERING
Do you think those underwriters, change managers, business analysts, and 600 other office roles have a real roaring passion for their role?
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>>106672906
I don't care about them desu
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I like being oncall because nobody bothers me for the usual shit like project status updates and random requests for things that don't fall in the realm of operations work
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>>106672906
They are not real people anon.
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>>106672906
Nobody underwrites on their free time.
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>>106672906
i dont respect tech guys who never have any experience working other jobs outside tech
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>>106670830
Posers
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>>106672906
They're the same people that larp about becoming farmers when their only experience is tending their small gardens in their backyards.
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>>106673154
Ranching and Chicken farming is the only easy mans entry into farming. In terms of costs/education on the job required its the lowest. The real farmers that plant arces worth of seed every year have to go balls deep into debt with very few of them ever getting out of it.
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>>106673055
Your respect is worthless.
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>>106672906
follow the head of the finest Italian philosophers
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>guy with a greasy ponytail balding in patches wearing some metal band t shirt turns up. You give the OG some space and let him tippity tap arcane incantations on his fully generic keyboard
and just like that you can lean back and rest assured everything will be sorted right about in 5 mins. Actually Indians never had a chance
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>>106672587
You're a bioweapon imported to drive down wages. go home
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>new hire in my department
>name is literally jeet patel
It's over
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>>106672906
this post struck a nerve
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>what people think farmers are like
ahh yessir just workin the land all simple
>what farmers actually are like
ahh yessir, if this crop fails the bank will take it all
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>>106673695
I feel like people are pretty aware how first-world farmers are entirely reliant on government subsidies to not go absolutely bust.
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>>106673695
>what people think farmers are like
ahh yessir just workin the land all simple
>what farmers actually are like
growing a county's land worth of mohair and burning it at the harvest for dem government bucks
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>>106673676
skill issue, I love programming, better luck next reincarnation, gayboy
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>get a job offer on LinkedIn
>significant salary rise
>"Most of your time will be spent managing instead of programming"
Putting aside that I'm not passionate about the idea of being a tard wrangler, is this objectively a good move career wise?
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>>106674284
Long term yes. The weed out for older people above the age of 25yr is much higher UNLESS you are a manager. Age discrimination for bigger companies is even worse than smaller organizations. Except for Amazon they want anyone that breathes.
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>>106671973
out of all the retarded spammers in twg, this horny 19 year old virgin is my least favorite.
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how much of a powerlevel fag are u guys? do you dare enough to use this as your work laptop wallpaper?
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>work keeps calling me because something blew up
FUCK OFF IM SILENT HILLING RIGHT NOW BITCH
Push these bitches off me like, "Huh"
Push these bitches off me like, "Huh"
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>>106674591
I show up at the office in cargo shorts, flip flops and metal shirts.
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>>106674591
im not really a furry but I do have a SMT themed background on my phone. thinking of changing my wallpaper too.

i miss the days when you'd get to fuck around with your coworkers. we used to put a derpy photo of my coworker everywhere as a prank (including his wallpaper) and that was funny as fuck. the boomers didn't really get it. now i joined a company with all boomers and it's just after work dinners and talking about business and politics and the economy and shit and i dont give a fuck....
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if youre lower than rats youre definitely a third worlder living in a low trust society
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>>106674591
I had a couple of nendos on my desk before 2020.
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the jeets at my work keep using teams to message me with just "hi" and they never leave an email. then they'll just keep saying "hi hi" until I respond. how do I get them to stop
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>>106674852
third world behavior

I hate this shit too

like they are the ones with a need but they want u to cater to them
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I'm going to decline a useless meeting. Wish me luck.
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>>106674852
Just don't respond. I outright ignore so much bullshit. Obviously who you do this to depends a lot on the context though.
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>>106674852
fuck why do people do this. Just tell me what you fucking want.
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>>106670722
>Email from IT Director
>"This attachment keeps getting blocked by Defender"
>"So I tried to run it as Domain Admin and it still doesn't work"
>.zip with a .js file inside and obvious scam email
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despite working in tech youre religions right anon?
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>>106675112
Of course, I have faith in the machine god, praise the Omnissiah
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>>106675112
i LOVE YE
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>>106674852
https://www.nohello.org/
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>>106672330
it started out like normal, we were done in 10 minutes
then we spent 20 minutes discussing a support case. this could have just been a simple written discussion since we only spent a few minutes actually talking about the specific request and how we should respond, the rest was bloviating about the customer not being able to RTFM
then one of my coworkers started sharing his screen and asked for feedback on his shitty code (rather than, you know, putting out a PR and tagging us), which turned into an hour-long debate as to the merits of alternative implementations
i could have left early but with the economy in the toilet im not going to risk being thought of as "not a team player" in case we have more layoffs
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>>106675268
>im not going to risk being thought of as "not a team player" in case we have more layoffs
Let's be real here, Anon, you can be the perfect worker drone a corporation could ask for but they will still pull something out of their ass to still lay you off. There is no job security to let you stay there if they just don't have the money to pay you anymore.
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You guys have stock with them right, pretty but all time low and they’re going to spin into a bunch of other companies. Look at GE for the playbook.

I had like 1000 shares of GE near rock bottom and I fucking sold too early…
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The thing that sucks about jeets is I don't know how much information to give them. I get the gist of it and what to do and what they need to do to make things work, but they'll absolutely dumb shit like email our API keys (+ secret) in a mass chain but I need to give it to them so they can fix an integration we have....
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>The company is now wanting a Java tech stack and moving away from the current Microsoft .NET tech stack
Why?
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i dont feel like working anymore
but i should improve and find a better job and make more money
but instead i just do nothing
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>>106675709
Literally me
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>>106675676

There are more Javajeets than C#jeets
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what is the ideal office mood manager to developer ratio?
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You think companies would hire someone just to take care of RTO initiatives, activates, and motivation? Sorta like HR but purely for making the RTO experience good?
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>>106670722
>i've a query
company i work for has frozen hiring in my european cunt for about a year, no end in sight
about 15% in my org has quit in the last 6 months, no end in sight
managements plan to """"resolve the situation"""" is literally to bring in more le talent in india
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>>106676081
0:X
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>>106676081
>be me
>be one of the workhorse engineers
>see a hot bitch dancing in the office
One of two things is going to happen, I'm going to be highly pleased or I'm going to be pissed that this bitch isn't doing her damn job and bottle necking me.
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>sign an offer to work as a contractor
>stakeholder is a micromanager, wants deliverables in less than 24 hours and changes the requirements 30 minutes before I have to present to stakeholders, and of course he wants me to "hit the ground running" and be extremely productive without a proper onboarding
>Dailies last 1-1.5 hours + meetings with him about anything that could be communicated by email instead
>I push back so I have enough time to work on the deliverables, and I find resistance every time I do so
>2 months later I take two days off to recharge
>1 day into my time off I get a message from the agency telling me that they are sorry but the client is cancelling the contract because they are not happy with my performance, effective the next day
>next day I was off as well so whatever, it is what it is
>5 days later I get an email from the stakeholder
>"Hi anon, I would like to offer you a feedback session regarding our collaboration. Please let us know if you are interested"
>mfw
What the hell is the purpose of that meeting for? If they wanted feedback they could have thought about that before cancelling my contract. I don't even know if I should reply to them considering they dropped me when I was out, so everything was communicated through the agency.
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>>106676081
2 min later I'm a the restroom having a wank
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>>106672958
what's your argument? no one forces you to program in your free time either
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>>106676081
"music helps with work" but once i play hardstyle, hyperpop, kanye or artcore these bitches pussies gets dry immediately
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>>106676400
That underwriting isn't creative and nobody does it as a hobby.
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>>106675709
you need a third space
go paint minis or something
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>>106676283
bastard was most likely looking for a slave to whip or looking for a reason to get rid of you like some sort of PIP mill
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>>106672906
I love change management
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>>106676283
Tell them you can give them feedback when they double your salary to hire you back on.
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>recruiter messages me on LinkedIn a week ago
>ghosts me
>suddenly messages me back after the fed lowers rates and Trump threatens H1Bs
We're so back softwarebros
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does anyone know any job sites for remote jobs for danish or norwegian company? im from europe
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>>106676196
>making RTO experience good
this is not possible
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>>106676729
Indians will just go to China then and beef up their software industry.
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>>106676790
I wish the Chinese the best of luck with their new allies in Asia
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>>106676196
my company has this. there's a committee that organizes barbeques and handles a little snack/coffee shop and stuff.

>>106674591
my phone wallpaper is borderline furry. but i wouldnt use that. way too bright for a background. was thinking of getting some furfag patches for my bag though. maybe even making some since i have an embroidery hoop and a ton of yarn/floss
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>>106676790
China is our greatest ally and they should be allowed to partake in the wonderful Indian H1Bs. We have monopolized them for far too long.
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1bn startup idea. transmitting data over audio. who's building this with me?
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Manager already asked me twice in a week what I'm working on, which means he knows I'm doing absolutely nothing.
I guess I'll have to work a bit for a while.
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>>106670830
That's just a terminal runing a shit ton of randomc eye candy programs for shits and giggles.
>>106674852
>>106674901
hi
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retards on /mkg/ are lying pussies. i brought my anime keyboard to my job and nobody gave a shit. they love me during meetings and they are all pleasant to talk with and i never alone during lunch
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>>106677652
i feel like the main impediment to bringing your own keyboard to work would be more about ITSec policy saying you cant use stuff you brought from home than people just making fun of you
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there should be a keyboard where the function keys are placed where the numpad is
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>>106677652
I brought my mech the very first day and I told my boss I'm not going to spend 8h a day typing ona shitty $5 membrane keyboard.
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you dont actually fear being judged, right anon? you don't have crowd embarassment, right?
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>>106677947
Judged by who?
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My company has ethnic based focus groups…

Should I join? We have alot of Jeets though so idk if it worth it, I wanna network and move to a diff dept.


T. SEA monkey.
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>>106677947
You're right. I should start cosplaying at work
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>>106678105
sounds like stupid clique garbage that only exist to sow conflict, like prison gangs
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I'm currently on vacation. I was planning on traveling somewhere random, but 5 days in and I'm still at home...
I'm a complete disaster. someone please save me...
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>>106678162
Yea but it networking and we have some asian execs (non jeets)
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>>106678344
Whores in vietnam is like $80 bucks i think, soaps in japan cost me $500 and tobita was like $150 a pop. Have fun. There thailand tooo but i’d figure you’d like paler asians.
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>>106678435
from which country is she? I'm not usually into asian women but this one is super cute and all of her features look white except the eyes
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>>106678435

Vietnam is kind of the sweet spot. Poor enough to live lordly there but the people are actually low key intelligent with some variety in personality, not as stupid as Flips or buggish as Chinks. And they're all Americaboos now for some reason.
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>>106678684
>>106678435

Also forgot to mention it's like the only place in that corner of the world where you will find women with curves, ass and tits. Basically nonexistent everywhere else within a 1,500 mile radius.

They are the only Asians to have ever produced a professional football linebacker, they got some of that mongolian old stock thiccness going on.
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>>106678435
I'm >>106678344
she looks underage
I'm not traveling to other country and I'm not american. I literally live half a mile from the beach, near 2 big cities, near tons of touristic places... and I haven't left my house much these days.
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>>106678697

>sees a woman with boobs
>ummm... you sure you're of age?

yeah you're ngmi lol
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Hmmm
I simply won't show up to the office tomorrow
I will wake up 5 minutes before work, and connect to the VPN during an RTO day
Let's see what happens
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>>106679006
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>>106676081
>Hey boss, sorry but the office is a bit too challenging to work in today
>Leave

Free WFH or obnoxious employees get reprimanded. Either one is fine.
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>>106676283
Unsolicited feedback? SMDDDD from the back. Not toxic of course.
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Is Contact Centre as a Service a good niche? I've been working with Amazon Connect, but I'm having serious doubts regarding the feasibility of this career path. It feels like finding a new job with it might be a huge pain in the ass, but it is a niche. What does the hivemind think? Thanks!
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Uhhh what the fuck, this job was listed as hybrid but my manager has not pressured me to go in. Do I even ask at this point?

I just started and dont even have a badge.
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>>106679006
Showing up at the office on RTO days is pretty much the only rule my manager cares about even though everything is an absolute mess, so I'll simply get there and proceed to do nothing.
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>>106679585
>Do I even ask at this point?
Now why the fuck would you ever do that
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>>106679604
To build rapport, i always try super hard in a new job then I can slack later on. I learned pretty late that first impressions are EVERYTHING.
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it's only tuesday for fuck's sake...
i am definitely ngmi
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>>106676283
Don't reply. Ignore them.
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well... there goes another keyboard
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My salary is $47000 and I have "software developer" in my job title. I've tried putting a shotgun in my mouth safety off dozens of times but I literally can't will my finger to pull the trigger, I'm trapped being alive for another 70 years and I'm in a state of total despair
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>>106680116
imagine being this fucking poor KEKW you make literally 1% of what a real SWE makes. how can you even afford a shotgun LMAO
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>>106678427
Join but befriend everyone regardless, except jeets
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I'm a pentester, I'm "good" at what I do (or so some of my colleagues, current and previous, think), but I'm tired af of this bs job, tired of my mediocre coworkers, tired of this fucking bureaucratic corpo bs, tired of feeling scared of getting news about some vuln that I didn't discover but some random fucker did and took advantage of it.
I wish I had studied something else. I've been thinking that maybe I should do a technical course for electricity. or maybe I should sociology. or whatever, idk.
I'm just tired.
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>>106680116

I worked for my dads IT business. I was the only employee. I started off at 32k. I ended at 42k. He was making 90k+. No healthcare, no retirement, no dental. In the last 5 years i was doing 70-80% of the actual work, he was socializing, ordering equipment, doing book keeping and answering the phone. Now i own the business and stand to make 120k+ and i want to eat the shotgun. Money isn’t everything. If your coworkers are cool, and you have enough to make ends meet, thats 80+% of life.
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>>106680435
I have to live in total austerity with 2 roommates, it's not even close to enough to make ends meet.

Also my coworkers are all old and want nothing to do with me
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>>106670722
Canadian job market status? I have 3 months left in my contract. They'll probably rehire me again but just in case should I be going bug mode applying and ironing out my portfolio in the meantime? Also do you guys have your own websites? It seems like fun but with the amount of dorks embarrassing themselves I've seen I'm thinking it's just for people who want to blog.
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for lunch today while working at home i baked and ate a whole tube of those pillsbury cinnamon roll things, and it was fucking delicious!
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>>106675351
true but i view it like outrunning a bear
i dont have to be the fastest, i just cant be the slowest
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Does anybody work in computer vision here? I am curious to know how you day goes.
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>>106680886
you should've made some steak and eggs to go with them. that way it'd be healthy.
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>>106680435
damn dude your boomer dad used you. fuck boomers. I bet you paid half your check to him to rent his basement too. fuck boomers X2
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All the fucking bootlickers are sending happy birthday messages to the manager, something not done for anyone else on the team
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>>106681340
idgaf about being healthy anymore
the sooner i have a heart attack the sooner i can stop doing this job
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>>106676283
>>106679865
ghosting is whack. get some balls and learn to say "fuck you" in business speak by replying with this:
>I respectfully decline your request. Have a nice day.
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Life would be a lot more arduous if people didn't "ghost", just increases the volume of unnecessary communication
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>>106681416
ghosting is the final retort of a coward.
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Ideally, if you don't have enough work then you message your manager
In reality, this actually detracts from your perceived value
So the encouraged behaviour is to never ask for work, even if you genuinely want more tasks

This is a sick system
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>>106681428
Don't you think it's a little narcissistic to think that fear is the driver, these people aren't ghosting because they're afraid they just don't care because the outcome is the same for them either way
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Maybe narcissistic wasn't the right word, dramatic would have been more appropriate
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>>106681441
It really depends. But Anon seemed to have some static he wanted to get off of his chest. Ghosting is not an effective "fuck you" in that situation. I was giving advice on how to say "fuck you".
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>>106679202
high thumos brother
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>>106681459
I do understand where your coming from, but just for me, in my opinion: when somebody ghosts me I just completely lose respect for them. I don't ghost people. I just let them know "hey, I'm moving on. This is goodbye.... Goodbye." and if they persist, then: "like I've already told you, we're done. goodbye, farewell, good luck out there." then I don't block or any gay shit like that and I don't have to because yeah they stop reaching out.
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>>106681518
I appreciate your levelheaded response
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I've had a full-time job for 10 years now
I can't believe people work for 30, hell 60 years doing much the same thing
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>>106681881
well get used to it. the boomers have taken all of the money and hidden it in home equity that is hard to tax. youll be working until you die
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goodnight /twg/
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They just gave me a work phone cause "clients sometimes rather call than email" and first of all what and second i just wanna code in peace man why do i do customer support too
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>>106682916
I had a work phone and the amount of work calls that I got in a year was probably like three.
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>>106682954
Same I haven't taken my phone out of my laptop bag or charged it in literal months
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>>106674682
This is just fear of retaliation, not empathy.
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>>106672587
Do you guys need a devops engineer, maybe? I'm looking to relocate to Poland.
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>>106681397
Not worth it.
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Are we finally in an official recession?
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>>106683894
Perfectly nice house, clean
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>Meeting in 20 minutes
>I have done basically 0 progress and kinda worked on whatever i wanted
I'm about to get blasted so hard
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>>106684021
Yeah well do your work next time
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>>106684021
You are supposed to do above average work and never ask for more work. What you did however is why people get fired.
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>>106683894

looks russian
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>>106684036
>>106684263
I got away with it cause I kept answering his unrelated questions with bullshit and gave some good feedback so much wasted time he barely looked at my work
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I just can't do it. I can't take this shit no more man.
I have no motivation to work.
For the last 3-4 work days I've been just watching YouTube and eating all day.
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>>106683894
Recession isn't real until housing/stocks shit the bed. In mean time economy is humming fine as you eat 2 beans a day out of a can.
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>>106685099
let me tell you what i see, anon. i see a fat ass niga with headphones. probably if you pulled out your cock, it would smell like nachos that's been sitting in a hot summer sun all day, while you're sitting here in another image board at 08:38 trying to figure out what i do to get this paper. how 'bout you focus on your diet, you fat ass, need-to-do-keto ass, balding, fucked-up-genetics ass nigga? and worry about how to stop your mid section from fucking protruding from fats and greases, you bloated, stinking, worthless, basic, i-can-see-you-around-walmart-anytime-i-go-in-that-motherfucker, bitch ass niga. don't worry about me, worry about your own self
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>sre
>5 years ago
>be a shitty junior
>switch jobs like a pair of socks whenever I want
>present day
>senior sre with top tier certificates
>applying for jobs for a year with no success

who do I blame for this
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>>106674284
Any more input on this?
Also I may have fooled the recruiter and the hr roastie, but the truth is that even though I got the sharp tongue of a used cars salesman I'm an absolute sperg and I don't like people.

>>106674305
I feel that, I'm 36 and I'm already bourned out of programming.
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>>106676081
Literally adult daycare (for white women)
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>>106685597
yourself, should have stayed the obligatory 2 years between switching
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>>106685723
I've already done 3 years at my current company
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Just saw the WORST woman I've ever worked with (who got fired from both Amazon and Microsoft for seeding so much chaos) just got promoted to "Chief Information Officer" at a pretty big company. She was the least technically literate, most petty and backstabbing "leader" I've ever had. Now she probably makes 7 figures a year. Crazy how some people seem to fall upward.
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>>106685597
at the end of the day, the only "path" that will never go out of fashion are plain old software developers
qa, sre, devops, cybersec, those are all roles that in times like these ceo's are willing to discard
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>>106683894
that freezer needs defrostin'
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>>106685798
quite the opposite
code monkeys are replaced by AI, SRE handles much more than code
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I moved away from engineering to other role that makes you draw diagrams and write documentations instead.
Haven't made a commit it 2-3 years.
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have any of you worked for canonical?
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>>106686047
and that's supposed to be a good thing?
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>get on manager good side

Can slack off a bunch of time. How come you guys don’t know how to manage up?
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>>106686114
No I hate my job.
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idealist:
job that matches my passion and pays good

realist:
job that pays like shit but at least matches my passion
job that isn't my passion but pays good enough

third world hell:
job that isn't my passion but doesn't pay me anything
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>>106686345
For me it's job I can slack off the most that pays enough to cover my needs
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>try making apps as a side gig
>fail
>try applying for a second job
>fail

The biggest thing holding me back right now is money. If I had even 1.5x of what I was making now, I'd be set.

What the fuck do I do? Uber eats?
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>>106686389
It doesn’t matter how much you make because you don’t invest.

Investing is how you set yourself free and become part of the owner class. You don’t even need that much. $4M will let you live a permanent middle class life.

The best bet is to go slow and steady and not stress your body out. Seems like tech and high finance just fucks with your body since you do so many all nighters.
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>>106686389
teach zoomers
do their assignments
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i wanted to be productive today and then a client makes some retarded stupid shit after clicking twice on DO NOT CLICK THIS ACTION IS IRREVERSIBLE and now im on rollback duty
piece of shit
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I fucking hate technology it's ruined everything
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What's the biggest fuckup you made at work and did you get fired for it?

I'm the guy from a couple of threads that made the company loose like $2000 dollars (yeah I know it's not a lot but it's a middle-sized company) and I still don't know what they're going to do with me or if they're going to fire me
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>>106686718
I don't think I've had anything too bad. Broke the invoicing system for some hours as a junior at least. But my general sense is that you'd need to fuck up really bad to get fired. We've had someone drop production databases after being warned about it and they didn't get shitcanned.
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>>106686718
no one gives a shit, retard. stop being stupid, and stop being an attention whore in this general.
it's their fault they gave you a tool that cost them that much money without warning you about it. in fact, if I was in your position, I'd talk to a lawyer right now.
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>>106686821
Anon why are you shaming a fellow tech worker trying to talk about their techworking life
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>>106686821
lol chill bro this is only the second time I post about it because I'm still worried. It's true though that logically mistakes do happen, though they still possess the mighty hand gestures that separate me from unemployement and shit-eating
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>>106686102
don't
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AYEEE MAN CAN I BORROW LIKE 5$ MAN.
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holy fuck it's only wednesday
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>>106687214
I just need to get through this year
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>>106687053
I hate those dumb fucks. I once said no, he got offended, and stopped bothering me. good riddance.
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>>106687053
it used to be "canneye borrah a dallah" I guess inflation is even fucking over the scammers
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>>106687230
Why? What happens next year?
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>>106687331
Just 2 more years anon
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>>106671845
so get a different job lol it is very easy actually, you can even start your own business!!!
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Hi sir
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>>106686718
You understand that the company extracts like 10x your salary on value from you as an employee right? 2k is nothing. I once crashed the prod website for a billion dollar company. Still work here too.
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>interview for position that i am probably a pretty decent fit for
>get so nervous my hands and voice are noticeably shaking
>give cringe answers and basically botch every question
>we end and the head interviewer wraps it up with "well, i appreciate your honesty!"

i am cursed bros. the only hope is the other candidates somehow fuck up worse than me.
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>company only gave me a laptop with 16gb ram
>they upgraded to 32gb like a month after i joined
>have to wait 2 hours for a refresh
jdimsa
>>106671159
my company spent millions on getting our meeting rooms modernized for video calls but none of it works so i end up having to use my usb speakerphone instead
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>>106687331
>>106687352
I just need to get through this decade.
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>in final round with two different companies

startup
>$140k-$180k base
>some equity but probably no more than 1%
>Series A funded but no known current evaluation
>Assuming equity is around $100k in monopoly money
>tangentially tech but will be seen as a departure from it
>Principal Engineer title

FAGMAN
>$120k - $200k base
>equity range from $120k-$300k
>mid-level title
>will require relocation
>will be in-office 4 days out of the week might be able to badge it
>could get upleveled to senior but then it'll be a terminal title at that point but equity cap goes up to $500k
>FAGMAN on resume so no longer getting insta-filtered by roasties
>will have to deal with annual layoffs after my first 6 months are done

I'm guessing the writing is on the wall here that I should go with FAGMAN if the offer is good enough right?
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>>106688126
FAGMAN looks way better on your resumee and the stress will be high in either case.
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>>106688126
FAGMAN if you want to be told what to do. Startup if you want to fight against everyone else in the company because you think you know better. It's probably easier to coast at FAGMAN. If you're happy relocating and you get to pick where you relocate to FAGMAN probably isn't so bad. I recently started working again at a smaller company that is in office only and it's really getting old even after only a few months so keep that in mind, too.
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>>106688206
>stress will be high in either case
That's true. I forgot about that aspect. That's basically a wash between the two.

>>106688278
I forgot the startup wants full in-office so I'll be in the same boat as you. I'll keep in mind on how coastable the role could be especially if I get offered a senior role.

I also forgot how both will differ. I really don't want to regularly fight over product functionality with non-technical people.
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>>106672587
Why the hell are you staying there instead of coming to USA?
If we're going to be flooded by H1Bs, they should at least be competent Europeans instead of Pajeets
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>>106688625
Its extremely difficult for a white guy to move to the USA. Pajeets though? No problem!
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>>106688625

>he doesn't know

Ever since Hart-Cellar it's been extremely hard for Europeans to legally immigrate to the US. It's not enough that they dump foreign bodies on us, they make sure it's browns and blacks to boot.
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>>106685099
bro ive been doing this shit for the last 3 weeks
all i ve deen doing
>play wow
>eat shit
>watch some retarderd "quick" 8 hours retrsospectives on games
ive maybe done like 10 hours of hours and that includes 4 hours of meetings
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>>106689173
yup, sounds like my stupid faggot coworker alright
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>>106689173
where do you work? fagman or somewhere comfy?
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Are there any router/modem combos that do not nuke themselves after a couple years?
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Hey anons to make a long short I had a manic episode two years back that I'm still waiting to get probation for. I originally had an offer with a company to be contracted to my local airport but they can't go forward until the records are expunged or sealed so they had to pull the offer. My point of contact felt bad for me but said I can reapply in six months (even though the same scenario would most likely happen). I received an e-mail from NBIS to fill out their forms to continue vetting for my public trust designation. I reached out to my security/background check point of contact with the company and she said I can ignore it, but should I still fill it out? It was originally a public trust with the TSA, but if the option's there I don't see why I shouldn't try again. I originally did this during my manic episode as well, but I never got my results because I lost access to my e-mail after that episode.
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fucking hell i am sick of this shit
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>do tech work in a non-tech company
>have to take AI class
>the managers and people who just use AI as a chatbot to reformat emails or whatever think it's going to solve every problem under the sun
>the people with any actual experience using them for complex tasks, and especially people who develop them, are way more cautious about them
>this shit is probably going to get me laid off before they realize what a clusterfuck it is
why are normoids so fascinated by LLMs?
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I encounter so much a.i. generated garbage code of some junior/medior developers. it's astonishing how they are so fucking blind to the trash code they offer in pull requests
I get so many garbage PRs that should all be shot down or I spend a week going back and forth with the developer so it gets in an acceptable state.
I get pull requests of developers that I pull in a meeting asking about the requirements. And they stare at me blank face and have no idea what the fuck the requirements were. So I pass the ticket back to the product owner telling them to give some clarity.
I started approving pull requests without doing any kind of code review as long as some other reviewer said they tested it.
Senior developers and team leads that say, welll it's just a small thing, does it really need to be fixed? Or just putting code blatantly at the wrong place because they are too fucking incompentent.
Trying to improve 1 week of tech debt a month, while 6 months of tech debt is being build in 1 month time.

This company is so fucking hopeless lmaooo
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>>106689795
When you have more power fire these faggots so its easier for me to find work.
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im out of donuts.
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>>106689941
well i got mine
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>get out of grad program
>struggle to find work for 7 months
>land a sweet gig with large company
>going well, doing gud
>wife has baby and freaks the fuck out on me daily
>i lose sleep, spiral, and end up snapping one day a committing crime resulting in a short month of jailtime
>exit jail to have no job, medical bills, and vacation time used clawback cause of a bookkeeping error
>land an interview for another large company
>interview rolls around
>its leetcode
>motherfucker i dont remember this shit
>bomb that portion and just decide to call the interview there

motherfucker god damn
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My boss called me on my private number and messaged me on LinkedIn telling me to go back in to work at 8 pm. Don't ever get a Big 4 job.
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>>106690060
>big 4
sont you have to be a hypercucked super sycophant to survive there?
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>>106690017
never go full nigger retard
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>>106690065
I didn't know that at that time.
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>>106690073
i went full nigger, unfortunately
well, on the bri g t side I habe solid experience and am usually personable and likable so maybe I wont have to becone a welder
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>>106690074
because those places are so top down (especially since theyre pretty much working for the modern priestly class) the culture there is also people having no issue being cutthroat dicks to "get ahead"
Only legitimate psychopaths have good futures at a big 4. Otherwise its a stepping stone until you either open your own business or find better work
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>be loser idiot
>be invisible throughout my life
>specialized in selenium scripting but never say it
>prefer backend and learning systems but never say it
>get job
>do work
>get assigned basic bitch work
>lowerclassman gets work in selenium scripting and backend
>work I do is jeet tier work. We have a jeet who literally does something similar to what I do
>propose an idea, and got shut down from it. Aforementioned lowerclassman gets it months later.
>compile times take minutes.
>get depress because commute is eight hours. I drive hours to center divs
I don't know why, I was able to successfully deal with larger stuff.
>one moment, I get a client. It goes well, then he ghosts me for a month.
>He needs to QA it, so a bunch of work I promised is now in the void (going to talk to boss, to at least do the minor feature).
>one thing in life I had and it's gone.
It was at this point I decided to not care. I installed epy to read epubs in my terminal. I got my shell setup with gcc for all my AOC problems (with my trademark header only helper file), with a python program to get problems/input right from the terminal. I got VS code setup to read through math textbooks and do problems. While I wait for the moments of my life to shrink, I can go to other worlds, do code/math puzzles. I can do anything I want besides going through 4chan, which is A O fucking K with me.

This is my quiet way of rebelling against the system. I am tired of having six hours of my time, with those precious moments being taken up by filler or parents. So I have to choose between either working on my crappy app or helping my elderly dad. Now the chose doesn't hurt, because I never had to make the chose.
It isn't even like I don't WANT to work, I like working. But I hate busy work. I hate being made into center-div
>>106674591
I once had a background of Arrayo. I just like how the composition looks: Fallout/Arcanum really were pretty games.
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i was thirsty and got myself some cool water like 2 hours ago and i've been so busy i didn't have a chance to drink any and now it's room temperature...
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>>106690347
>getting up
>getting water
>he doesnt recycle his transpired and perspired water through a suit with a built in refrigeration unit
ngmi
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Coming in to the office 2 days in a row sucks. I'm imagining going in tomorrow and thinking of killing myself overnight
>>106683894
This looks comfy
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anyone just thinking how fucked up work life balance is? if I want to go to something in my personal life I have to book a personal day off and either be quiet on what it is or make something desperate up so they don't ask too many questions and this seems accepted in all of NA. the fuck? why should I feel guilty and ask for permission to take a day off if I don't feel like it because some jeet rat will do it 24/7 and give you shit on a plate???
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>your interview with Sandeep has been confirmed
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>>106690017
>>wife has baby and freaks the fuck out on me daily
You two live on a trailer, dont you?
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>Find a new job
I know but what should you do when upper management is flapping around and drowning? They switch gears like crazy and are extremely vague in what they want. Their direction is often so unfocused too.... it's making me a little jerky since I have no idea what they're going to pull me into
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How much should you be worth at 28?
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>>106690737
I have around $20 in my bank account. So $20.
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>>106689756
The mouthpieces at the top don't know what they're talking about. They just see ideas and numbers and go mmm money
Sometimes those numbers are fuckin fake, because directors keep thinking the brick wall that is AI going to give them lemonade, and keep pushing for "results"
Everything is a scam, and I wish someone told me that this game is more of how well you can ride along with the scam, not how well you can code or think. Nothing in college taught me this, none of my coworkers did either. I'm just waiting to sink
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>>106690786
I'm in this position. What do I do if my boss is a pushover and keeps sending shit down the pipeline and I keep going to him and go "what the fuck am I suppose to do with this shit?"

>find a new job
in progress.
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we really need another pandemic huh?
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>>106690695
no, its a pretty nice apartment
dont marry a nurse.
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>>106690776
I have about 6000
but student debt
so not even a bag of dirt
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*Breathes in*

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
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>>106670722
I miss when having a job was guaranteed, everyone took care of each other and life in general was stable.
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>>106691343
Get this anti Indian racist shit out of my /g/
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>working from home, full stack dev
>good pay for my country (not india btw) outsourced by an american company
>wife works too so I have the house for me all day, she leaves me my lunch ready

Who else in absolute /comfy/? With the death of h1b, outsourcing will be even better now
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>>106691289
Yeah, I don't buy a word of it Mr. President until I see all the minorities suddenly disappear from my neighborhood or my work office in the next 2 years
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>>106691564
>be me
>be minority and US born
Same here, brother. Same here. Get them out of here.
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>>106691481
>Who else in absolute /comfy/?
Me but i am in the US and work for a US company. I enjoy it and the work I do. I live alone in my own house and rarely step outside unless its to mow the lawn (riding mower), pick veggies, do yardwork or feed my chickens
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>>106691481
that lifestyle isn't sustainable
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>>106691694
>that lifestyle isn't sustainable
What do you mean?
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good morning sirs!
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Have interview for an internal position today. God I hate interviews. Gonna just fumble through it and apologise if I don't seem prepared becuase I've been busy working on projects with short deadlines.
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>>106691868
Do they send good night emails too?
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>>106685597
age

Too much experience to pay cheaply and market too shit host many sr. jobs.
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>>106685597
Pivot to DevOps, who even hires SREs these days
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>>106691663
>minority
since this is TWG I assume you are a straight non-hispanic white male that hasn't been laid off yet?
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I strongly disavow doing anything ever at your job.
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21 more weeks until i can quit this hell hole
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>>106690224
>get depress because commute is eight hours. I drive hours to center divs

For the entire week?
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>>106692163
>straight
>hispanic
>male
>been laid off
Don't worry. I'm self-employed with 3 clients.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwIKKBL4ldQ
fun video, midly related and also might be helpful if you want a better paid job.
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>>106688625
Going to the USA as a European is extremely hard nowadays unless you go do a masters there and get hired right after. Indians get in through WITCH gaming the H1B system.
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goodnight /twg/
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I read an article about Canadian Procurement today, got mad, and then realized I can just not care. I'll get paid either way, to touch stuff that's 50 years out of date regardless.
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>>106677947
honestly i think a lot of the reason my life has gone the way it has is because i'm utterly embarrassed of the "normie" things I want to be good at, but am also into stuff that's Depths Of Shameful Tragedy and that's what has made up my entire career. and i've "excelled"(or at least been good enough at it) that I do things in it frivolously and without fear

but if it were up to me in the cultural context i'd be a real engineer, and if it were up to me completely freely i'd have become a baker or chocolatier. unironic FUD in those fields keeps me away from them but i've made an unreasonable (if ultimately still low) amount of money on military larping and IT monkeying, where I look at it all like "What am I gonna do, break something important? It don't matter, none of this matters, what makes me mad is that I am not doing anything that matters, when does the one thing I'm even passable at get to matter"
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>>106691343
This has never happened ever
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Horribly failed internal interview. Sounded like a blithering retard answering basic technical questions.
Hope they don't start considering my suitability for current position rip.
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>got invited on an exercise
>get told i'm supposed to somehow support planning despite never getting invited to any meetings
>what little info i get trickled to me all sounds really really bad and like the whole operation is completely doomed to only not result in any injuries or strandings but not offer real training (beyond the usual experience of "For us, it's always like this")
It can be not always like this

someone tell me something to give me the COURAGE and GUMPTION to start demanding to be let in on planning meetings and be given a budget to convert/repair/acquire useful equipment

I got a real job to escape this kind of nonsense but really i live for it. If something is going on that is doomed and I have any power to fix it, I wanna fix it. Gimme everyone's email addresses, a modest budget of thirty or fifty bucks on top of everyone's usual salaries, and a quart of rum, I'll have it sorted in a year of hard work.
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>co-workers are sending emails and chat messages at midnight again
sorry, but i've explicitly reserved this time to shitpost on a mongolian basket-weaving forum. thank you for your understanding
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Just 4 more days... And I'll be out of this hellhole.......
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>>106693435
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiseYZYK3oU
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>>106692255
You must look too white.
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>>106693155
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>>106693435
this is why billionaires wants to replace us with indians
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>>106693007
its ok man nobody really cares
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>>106693652
Really gotta play this game sometime
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>>106693761
its like 5 bucks and the XTREEEM version is free

also you can play Mobile Suit Baba which is free and has similar mechanics (and will ruin base Baba for you because it has dialogue and characterization where og baba does not)
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>>106693761
>>106693652
>>106693780
programmers can't solve this
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I've been reading criticism of bullshit jobs and most of it is just cope with people going "nuh uh my job isn't useless, I'M IMPORTANT!!!! this book is WRONG >:("

why are people like this lol
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>>106694139
How can my job be bullshit if it makes money?
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>>106692195
Essentially. I get a job's a job, but I am doing minor tasks that don't really mean much, even to the system.
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>>106694139
Bullshit jobs are apart of the trickle down economy. They spend alot of money on the people who actually provide value to the company. Those same people spend their money like idiots on a variety of goods. You as a small business owner is to have a goal of capturing these high income jobs discretionary business.

In turn you hire employees to perform bullshit jobs IE minor work to give the money makers all of the time they need to dedicate towards the only parts of the company that make money. You can take that same concept to larger companies. Even the larger beucaries can provide flexibility even if it costs money to hire more managers for these sections.
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I hate doing a shit job because of time constraints my manager sets
I understand everything runs on ugly unreadable spaghetti code but I CAN make it better not just for show but for the future and they won't let me AAAAAAAA
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>>106694266
im more laughing at how people are coping and deny it because it hurts their feelings lol
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>>106694569
Nobody wants to hear 40+ hours of their time is essentially a waste. That is just the heart of it.

Shit even here, you read about anons with comfy, easy jobs who want to leave because they are defining themselves by it rather than seeking fulfillment outside of work.
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>>106694569
It can hurt their feelings all they want but at least they are getting paid for bullshit work.
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>>106694604
Why do you care man people are just trying to make a living while not wanting to kill themselves
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>>106694602
>Nobody wants to hear 40+ hours of their time is essentially a waste.
It's not a waste if someone pays me for it.
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>>106683894
We are in 1997/2006. We are still pretending everything is fine.
>>106685723
Doesn't work anymore, try it and come back to us.
>>106685597
All the tech companies are bracing for a big crash. They aren't being tight with hiring due to memes like A"""I""". They have record profits, they could double their headcount for the lulz and keep making billions, but they don't - because they know.
>>106692135
DevOps are just SRE for internal tools.
>>106686102
I heard the CEO is full of himself and is a micromanager and a huge dick. Steve Jobs syndrome to the max.
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>>106694602
I mean finding meaning from work is completely separate from "you're working a bullshit job"
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>>106694786
Is it? If all conditions of well compensated, dignity, etc are met, does it really matter at that point? BS job or no meaning are in the same bucket when trying to use it to define yourself instead of outside the work role.
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I spend way too many hours at work any bit of realization that it's meaningless and fake would send me spiraling
>Just find purpose outside of it
Niggerfaggot work is literally the cornerstone of life in current day
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I switched to computer science and coding from machining because I was fed up with just being a coq in a machine that feeds some stupid ass production line with the same shit everyday without bringing anything valuable to this world. Well i struggled my way here and grinded a fuckton, basically just been living and breathing code and computer systems so I can make "it". Now I am in my first internship and it's literally the same bullshit, there is no value in any of these and we are just selling some shitty ass product that is full of shitty bubble-gum solutions that barely holds together for massive amounts of money and I once again find myself a coq in a machine that brings nothing to no one. How the fuck am I supposed to deal with this? Atleast I can work remotely and get paid a lot better so it's not like it was all a waste but jesus christ dude. The more I know the more I hate the internet and computers and what all our systems are built upon



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