>>106670787
How many applications result in an interview?

zoom zoom here, how fucked am I if I want a job in IT/Cybersecurity?

>>106670949
>IT
You're fecked
>Cybersecurity
You might have some chance.
t. older zoom zoom.

I don't even hope for a job. I'm too socially retarded. I programm as a hobby in peace

What's the average codeforces rating in this thread?

Do i need to become a jewish freemason so that a tech job is handed to me?

>>106671204
it wouldn't hurt. curse yourself that you werent born black or a woman. you'd be on easy street for interviews.

>>106671687
>>106671204
masons and jews have been at war since time immemorial.

>Company wants to do an initial phone screening
>It's for a role I'm so in over my head for that I'm nervous about the goddamn PHONE SCREENING lmao
hahahahaha oh god, fuck. (I'm drinking a Four Loko right now, I should save the rest of it for the interview)

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>>106671941
if you're graduating w/o experience should you go for internships just to get something or try for junior/entry level

>>106671130
1200-1400ish probably

>>106671972
I did not mean to quote someone…

>>106671941
honestly, if you are genuinely good at what you do and are able to learn fast you can thrive anyway.I went from zero to senior position instantly because there just wasn't an actual senior around, and I outperformed their expectations

Where can I spam my resume for the slightest chance of an interview?
Indeed, LinkedIn, are just blackholes and a time waste

>>106671972
How about both? Why limit your chances, and considering how fucked things have gotten because in the past the junior entry level jobs were the "internships".

>>106672234
alright. Just want to set my expectations reasonably well. I’m a smart dude just a career changer, wrapped up my masters and have a couple of reasonable full stack projects but no xp in this industry…might as well apply to both.

>>106672262
There really isn't any reason to limit yourself, say you apply for both and only get a response from a entry level job? Great, and if the only job that responds back is an internship that that's also fine. Do not self filter yourself, let the HR do that kek
>t. desperately applying for everything

Just got completely btfo by a greedy algorithm problem that involved treating numbers as strings. The only other question on the interview was an SQL query, when knowing SQL was not even on the job requirement.
I couldn't be more livid.

>>106672274
Are you nibbas applying to startups as well

>>106672288
Man I don’t even practice SQL queries like I should. It’s something I look up as I need it until it becomes second nature

>>106670787
>Take a new job across the country for decent pay
>3 months in and I'm fucking hating my life
>job I applied to months ago in the same city finally reached out to me to the initial phone screening
>it pays more and the work life balance is there too
Pray for me bros. I'm studying my ass off for this interview because the IT market in this place is so shit that I doubt I'm going to find a job that pays more than my current role

>Usually responds in 5 days!
Yeah my fucking arse...

>>106672288
I want to ask you guys' opinions on this.
The problem was to make an algorithm that receives a string of 1s and 2s and returns the highest value string created by removing 0 or more characters and keeping the number of both 1s and 2s even. This was for a new grad position and it was one of two questions on a 40 minute test. The other was the complex SQL query I mentioned.
Am I just retarded or is that an extremely hard problem for the context?

>>106672478
this is a relatively easy problem. let #1's be A and #2's be B.
if A and B are both even already then you shouldn't remove anything because if you did, you'd get a shorter string than original (and thus a smaller number).
if one of them is even and the other is not, then by a similar argument you should only remove one digit. let's say, A is odd, so you should remove a 1. which exact digit? the leftmost one! you can easily see this dominates removing a further digit - if you remove a 1 that’s not the leftmost, then the leftmost 1 stays pushing any 2's further right (lexicographical order depends on left-most characters so to maximize value, we want 2's to be as left as possible). if B is odd you should remove the rightmost 2. (if you remove a 2 that’s not the rightmost, then the rightmost 2 stays placing a 2 further right, where it’s less valuable.)
if both are odd then you need to remove a 1 and a 2. remove the leftmost 1 and the rightmost 2 - you can again prove this works.

>>106672593
Wouldn't you always want to remove the rightmost 1 and not the leftmost?
122 is more than 22.
Anyway, maybe you're right and it shouldn't have been so hard for me. I got bogged down thinking it was a recursive backtracking problem for a bit to start and ended up one syntax error away from finishing my correct answer.
It's frustrating but I'll just have to keep practicing and hope another interview comes.

>>106672620
122 is indeed more than 22 but that's comparing apples and oranges - a number without a digit removed and a number with a digit removed.
try removing each of 1's in 121221 and you get:
21221 <-- leftmost 1 removed - highest number
12221
12122 <-- rightmost 1 removed - lowest number

>>106672631
Oh, I see your point.
Good catch then. I should have been taking 1s off from the left.

>>106672631
(cont)
and you can see the opposite effect is true for 2's:
11221 <-- leftmost 2 removed, lowest number
12121
12121 <-- rightmost 2 removed, highest number (for this example happens to be the same as middle 2 removed)

>>106672640
to be fair a lot of those problems are stupid. there is a limited number of tricks/observations and once you have solved enough of them you get the trick and you can solve every other problem with the same trick.

What's supposed to be a "normal" time of application close to reply? I'm averaging 1 month for applications that do get a response.

>>106672160
I mean I'm horrified at the thought of getting slaughtered in the interview. I'd gladly take the job itself right now and I think I'd be competent before Thanksgiving. Shit I'd be fine with taking the CEO position if they wanted me to (though I don't think I would ever attain competency there).

>>106670787
Please add the /utwg/ job board in the description next time. We have one job post there already!

https://fren.work/4chan-utwg-66a223e3?

>>106673680
here's a cleaner url that redirects to this page
https://utwg.fren.work/

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Getting desperate

(Am still a student)

>>106672478
Yeah im just casting to int and iterating after filling an array with all the possible even number of 1 and 2 strings.

>>106674129
what's the deal with this company? i've seen it posted here before

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>kids that were in high school when I got laid off are now getting offers

>>106672659
yep. That’s why I’m doing many of them…

Please do not throw sausage pizza away (we're doing osi again in into to web dev)

>>106674525
They're a contractor similar to WITCH that severely underpays you, often considered a last resort for unemployable CS grads due to their relatively low bar for entry

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Why do you guys feel you deserve tech jobs? You’ve lived in a first world countries for decades, let others have some prosperity.

>>106675493
I've unironically heard people talk about the "American Century of Humiliation" on Twitter lately

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Time to browse indeed again

>>106675030
I think this is very solid advice https://codeforces.com/blog/entry/98806 everyone should read

>>106673148
>1 month
That's pretty normal nowadays, as we've entered a "slow hiring, no firing" phase of the economy, where companies post jobs to seem active and growing, but aren't really looking to add positions. I've had jobs reply to about the status of my application 3-6 months after applying in some cases, it's nightmarish.

>>106674129
you really need to have professors intro you to places. spamming CVs to job boards is DEAD.
school is the best place to make connections

Do you guys actually want to know the secret to cruise at a new job? I feel like alot of you just fuck it up.

>>106675753
"How I Accidentally Joined Vercel"
>https://www.jos.hn/blog/vercel
>*teehee* just DM the CEO of a company you like and sperg out in person about tech
>*teehee* land comfy six-figure job
>*teehee* it's so simple guys!

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>*clicks 'reject' on your resume*

Here you go boys, this gay nigger has taught you how to not be fucking poor in 2025:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=or_anZlGS24

What, you're not making 500k a fucking year after 2 years of hard work? Stop being fucking lazy!?

>>106671204
Yes and you need to blow a baby before throwing it alive into a fire pit.

Over promise and under deliver.

>>106671687
This is true. I'm black, have a clearance, and some basic certs and I'm already making 100k+. Imagine being autistic, white, and male. LMAO

>>106672478
use case?

>>106676753
Filtering retards like myself, apparently.

>>106670787
Since Muslims and jeets hate eachother is there a better chance of landing a tech job in uae or arabia?

>>106672478
i love how techbros have run out of "problems" to invent and have resorted to straight up trick puzzles

>>106677376
UAE is extremely restrictive with who it takes in. Ditto Singapore.

>>106677548
If the position isnt entry/new grad and the company doesnt do the same team matching process say like a google does then honestly dont think these style of questions are needed.

Anything mid-level and higher should really be more design and code review focused since thats likely the majority of what you are going to do in the day to day anyway.

>>106675526
It began in 1945 actually.

>>106677576
There a shitload of jeets in singapore, let not kid ourselves.

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My company has ethnic based focus groups…

Should I join? We have alot of Jeets though so idk if it worth it, I wanna network and move to a diff dept.


T. SEA monkey.

>>106677731
>design and code review focused
use case for whatever the fuck >>106672478 was trying to describe?

>>106677853
>Jeets
biggest traitors to work with
they will report you for the most minor thing behind your back
if the team leader is also a jeet, you are finished

>>106671972
>Junior
Basically don't exist anymore. I've been through hundreds of applications at this point and I find one genuine posting for junior level like every few months at best. The one I found most recently has an interview scheduled for tomorrow though so wish me luck

I have 4 internships, but no degree because I'm stupid and got kicked out of school due to low GPA. How do I get a job and how do I apply so I'm not filtered for "no degree"?

I personally do not understand the death of the junior position, who is going to replace the senior level people? You can say Jeets but that will cost you in the long run with code base/infrastructure etc. getting more and more shit each passing day.

>>106679015
The hope is AI replaces the entire pipeline before you even need to start worrying about the next "senior".

But realistically I dont think most of these guys really think. A lot of the positions right now are closed for re-orgs and figuring out what the next move is while saving as much money as possible but also feels like we are finally feeling the downfall effect of a bunch of sacrifices made for short term profit/stability.

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Humiliation ritual

>>106679015
duuude. I'm on the other side of it. I am an expert, straight up no bullshit, a senior senior senior software engineer and I can't find a job. You can think of me as a CTO that still spent 50% of the day writing or reviewing code. I am pretty much now being forced to exit the industry all together because I have no other choice. think about that for a moment. I honestly have not enjoyed my time in the industry. It was turbulent, full of backstabbing snakes, and jeets jeets jeets jeets fucking jeets and open office floor plan hell.

>>106678423
in my last job I trained an entry-level to Mid Software Engineer. I am very pleased with him, and I did my part.

P.S. ASK ME ANYTHING.

>>106679652
What are your recommendations for navigating the industry and how to get the best out of the shit sandwich?

>>106679652
>It was turbulent, full of backstabbing snakes, and jeets jeets jeets jeets fucking jeets and open office floor plan hell.
Got any fun stories? I quit my last two roles with zero notice because of that shit

>>106679652
>P.S. ASK ME ANYTHING
When it comes to juniors what is your tolerance for retardation? Are you fine with a drooling imbecile /g/ poster that can barely fizzbuzz if they ask questions all the time with the genuine intent of improving?

Stumbled my way from customer support to sys/cloud admin, and now to devops. I join my new team in a week and I'm mostly just reading terraform documentation and watching crash courses. What should I be doing? Environment I'm going to be working in is almost entirely AWS.

>>106679673
Be willing to relocate. Look for companies that give at least 10 federal holidays. Don't work anywhere where the team has at least 5 devs. Don't focus on maximizing your pay, instead focus on maximizing fun. Don't go work anywhere that says it is "fast-paced" because that means it is a sweatshop. Make sure the Senior devs have at least 8 years of experience. "Unlimited vacation" is a scam. Look for at least 3 weeks PTO preferrabley 4 weeks PTO. Make sure when interviewing that you meet your actually to-be-manager and that you like them, actually like them, and they don't feel akward.

>>106679673
>>106679833
I meant don't work anywhere where the team DOES NOT have at least 5 devs.

>>106679652
>jeets jeets jeets jeets
ughhh

>>106679757
Don't pretend to know things that you do not really know.
If you are not sure then ask.
Don't assume anything.
Be willing to read books that I recommend.
Understand that sometimes I have to tell you to do something a certain way for reasons that you either won't understand right now or I don't have time to explain. Do the thing the way I am asking, and then after you've done it that way, I am ready to hear why it was stupid.

Follow that and I am very tolerant.

>>106679689
>be me
>tech lead is not technical
>indian developer is given the task to write a delete method that clears out the entire database
>referrential foreign keys require a certain table delete order
>I examine the code and tell the tech lead that this code won't scale because it relies on in-built automatic cascade delete via ORM
>tech lead asks me how long it will take for me to implement an alternative way
>I tell him two weeks
>he says that is too long
>I shrug
>project moves forward and is over
>I move to antother project
>5 weeks later tech lead reaches out on chat saying the delete method is timing out and asks me for advice
>I chat back "you're fucked"
>he never contacts me again.

>>106679961
>>5 weeks later tech lead reaches out on chat saying the delete method is timing out and asks me for advice
>>I chat back "you're fucked"
>>he never contacts me again.
based

>>106679875
Sounds like getting your first job in a kitchen desu, not bad.

>>106679652
I'm in a similar position but at least I'm getting a few interviews.

>>106680133
I get an interview every once in a while but I haven't gotten an offer; I think the problem is they don't believe that I am willing to stick around for shit pay even though I would stick around for shit pay out of appreciation that they hired me when nobody else would... Any advice on that?

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My wife's company was hiring and they were probably going to pay $80k. Entry level. I didn't think I was quite ready to start applying to jobs yet.
I should've. She pretty much walks on water at that company and I probably would've got in even if I had zero experience.
I fuckin goofed, here I am not getting a single call back in 3 weeks of applying.

>>106676345
this is actually how hiring works. either you get poached by a recruiter or you have to use connections to get to your first good job. spamming resumes to LinkedIn ads is not it.

>had an interview
>god I have zero (0) charisma
I think it’s over for me. I know I’m good at what I do but I’m not good at convincing people of it. I got my last job and after a while the manger told me they intended to go with the other candidate but he already got another job. So guess I just got to wait until I luck out again.

I kept blurting out flowery bullshit about how much I align with the company and other stuff that would annoy me if someone tried that shit on me. Wasn’t intentionally it just kept happening. And it sucks because it really is the job I had the most experience overlap with. I know I’m good at the type of work but then he starts asking about my experience we specific tools they use and gotta admit I have never used those ones because there’s so much software used for this sort of thing but I don’t use that. At least I manage to recognize the names and give some related software I had used but I think he took as a sign of inexperience. Also best case scenario I have to do another 3 interviews to get the job like fuck that. Why can’t they just look at the projects I highlighted and ask for some recommendations? I’m just going to fudge any questions they ask me in-person.

it like this >>106679652. I have past work experience. Everyone I have worked with has been positive about what I can do. Every time I have to start from scratch and re-convince people of my ability which I can’t do. So a bunch of inept people with charisma get the job instead.

>>106679844
Functional places having 3-5 devs usually take in people who are capable of building anything each on their own and apply universal best practices - think prolific unix-like kernel developers, then some of them are even happier getting extra duties in areas they are weaker such as communicating with upstream because programming day after day is already too boring.

Agree that 99 % of newcomers do are not fit in such teams. Give 5-10 years of wide spectrum experience in the field then maybe 5-10 % would be fit for such team.

I might be wrong, but that's how I feel. I went to some places with small teams and every single of them was extremely skilled - you would often see 0, 1 or 2 of such members in the bigger companies as the default choice to get anwer to any question, get them to fix anything tm, let them find a solution to any problem.

>>106680187
Express your values more thoroughly - sticking around means loyalty, loyalty would come with respect they hired you, I believe "you like them and they like you" matters a lot here - if one of them don't or you don't - happens by any point, it will not be a rational choice for you to stay in the way they see it. Try thinking about what might signal that you are a loyalist, maybe you eat the same food each day, same brand of washing agent thorought 10 years, same music bands - especially something that would give an image that when you find something you like, money does not matter. In the way I see it, unless team dynamics are perfect, getting a better paying job would remain an interest - they could even find you on linkedin or whatever and bombard with better paying offers..

>>106679015
Anon these people don't give a shit about long term health. They can crash the fucking company, use a golden parachute, and get hired for double their salary at another company to do it all again.

Shareholders just hear numbers go up and sign off on the direction.The senior/jr problem is years away from really starting to take toll to them.

>>106680338
Can only guess a bit from reading your post. But I've run into the same problem with tools. As reverse engineer often get asked "so do you use ida pro?" which is always a fuck no because I'm not dropping 2k+ a year for software that would be for my side projects.

Instead I just say shit like "No. I use open source options like Ghidra.." and proceed to go into details on the principals of RE which shows you can adapt and you're not a drooling tard who relies on the software to do the work for you.

tldr: Just take a breath, rant on what the problems you think they are trying to solve, and name drop tools/techniques. Also spin how your method is cheaper, faster, and gets job done.

>>106680338
Get some background about the company. Show that you are more interested in what they are building, ask around, give them an impression you want to get straight to work. HR are assholes, the gatekeepers - let them know if you have anxiety, autism or whatever you have but assure that you remain calm, no anger issues, then they care a lot that you would be proactive to ask around when you don't know something and acknowledge that asking a colleague would be more efficient or when enountering something that does not work properly - call out, rather than keep silent.

>>106680454
Reverse engineering, but not supportive of piracy, that's quite rare, and nice - apparently resulted in way more in-depth learning and proves working the way through, sets miles apart from tards watching ida tutorials on youtube.

Can someone fill me in on the "years of experience" and what it actually means? I've got years of experience doing contract work because those were the only jobs I could get, yet they don't accept it. Why? If it is actually "years of experience in an office environment for a full time basis", then fucking say that instead of saying "years of experience in this tech stack".

>>106676397

would.

>>106680187
Either aim for a higher position like CTO or make them believe your seniority is lower than it actually is.

I once did a Zoom interview with self inflicted bruises across my face
I did not get a call back lol

>>106680454
It’s work creating llms and datasets. The issue is there is so much going on in the field there’s no way I’ll have experience with all the tools that anyone uses. At times I haven’t even done an equivalent like we want to do this type of rag or have used this db before? And honestly I haven’t heard of that kind of rag or that db. But that seems like it’s a part of working in a new field. I pick stuff up constantly because there’s always more/new stuff to use

>>106680468
> Get some background about the company
Super annoyingly I did and wanted to use that to show I put effort into this, then he started with a 5 min explanation of what the company does and there was little I could add. Wasn’t working with hr either this was a technical guy. I think he recognized I had a solid understanding about this but then he asked about a bunch of specific things that I had to say I hadn’t used and it’s hard to feel that didn’t kill it for me.

But the end when he told me there would still be multiple interviews and months before I could end up in the position got me. I need to get to work both for sanity but I also only have so much money sitting around. Not knowing what my next job is so frustrating in my head there was a chance I was going to have this interview and effectively have the job and move on from this job search. Now it’s right back to searching around

WAGMI
WAGTFKY

>>106680765
Understandable on the jitters mate. And honestly, even if you felt super confident, I would still say keep shitting out applications until you get a firm offer extension, start date, and gone through onboarding. Companies these days have zero problem changing their mind or BSing that something came up and had to cut you.

Don't know much on LLMs and datasets, but the field is on fire and tech guys not jackasses will understand if you don't know everything. Its fine to admit you don't know X tech as long as you give off the aura of willing to learn and interested in the work.

>>106680765
>then he asked about a bunch of specific things that I had to say I hadn’t used and it’s hard to feel that didn’t kill it for me.
Oh, recommendations from previous companies you have worked at would help here a lot, make sure they mention you are a quick learner. Do not hesitate to reach them out - they know it makes a big difference and are likely willing to help.

Sorry to hear it didn't work out. Sometimes it is good to ask national job centre - especially now that money running out is mentioned. Some countries get tax relief for employing ones registered as a job seeker - sometimes wage is even subsidized for some months, effectively making fast employment low risk for the company.

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>>106680615
tried both for a while
>higher position
no callbacks ever like I don't exist
>feign lower seniority
auto-rejected sorry anon while we were impressed with your qualifications blah blah blah

>>106680765
>when he told me there would still be multiple interviews and months
tech guy was giving you a hint that they are not actually hiring because he liked you and felt bad you got lead on.

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>have a second interview on Friday
Is it happening?

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>>106681532
good luck

>>106670787
Will a CompTIA a+ cert get me a job? I've never worked in tech before but want to start

AI is coming for us all! It's over for all of us! Especially for newtards like me

I like to read you guys' threads to feel better about my stable employment.

>>106678169
What makes you think use cases are a metric?

Just got rejected from a PhD, I was all the way to the third round of interviews.

>>106676724
Sure thing Tyrone. And I'm sure your dad never left.

>Parents have a talk with me about jobs
>"Why don't you apply for casual jobs anon? When are you going to say 'this is enough' and take whatever job anon?"
>Implying I haven't been applying for casual jobs and getting rejected from them the same as getting rejected from my chosen career.
I hate making them depressed over their loser son, but I dunno how to tell them how fucked the job market is. Can't even use them for connections for stuff since they part own a small local business that doesn't have connections with anyone relevant.

>>106683839
doesn't the small local business need an IT guy? surely there must be some business process you could automate for them.

>>106684623
It's a spare truck parts business, so not particularly. Their workplace already has an IT dude who isn't taking anyone on currently.

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the screening interviews are a nightmare to get past if you have a dodgy profile like mine with huge gaps and questionable experience at tiny companies.

It really feels like a punishment if you manage to get experience somewhere trying to find what branch of tech work you like and finding one you weren't great at.
For me, it was being a printer tech. Good with software, not so much with hardware and troubleshooting hardware. Today marks 5 months from that job and haven't found anything in what I am actually interested in.

>>106681865
No.

Back to it! Today I need to make the wireframe for my intro to webdev project.

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I’m grateful that God exists, since arrogant ingrates will sooner or later face their reckoning

maybe they will get retarded babies, burned their house, got into a car crash...

being kind and humble is free faggot retards

>>106684630
>>106683839
lol just write up on your resumee that you worked there as an it guy for a year.and they just confirm it

>>106671204
yes, you also need to change your pronouns to "she/they"

Should you put androgynous rape stare pic on your CV? Do you need a professional pic like ID or can you do a shitty anglefraud selfie. For retail and fast food not tech I'm in educarion but gotta pay rent.

Remote interview in two hours frens, they didn't specify if I needed to have my camera on so I'm going to dress up form the waist up.

>>106686338
be proper.
put on good pants

>>106670949
Pretty much everything in tech is fucked right now. It's hard finding something for cybersecurity too if you're new to the field in the current year.

So I can't pass any sort of coding interview live -- I've accepted that. Any alternative ways to get a job?

>>106670949
stop wanting things and just work for your parents/relatives
then leave after 3 years

>>106686338
drink 100ml of vodka

>>106686404
should've set up your phone to open chatgpt with a phone stand and connect your keyboard to multiple devices

>>106670787
Do you guys contribute to FOSS projects in your free time? I was asked to help out on this Linux project, but wtf man no compensation? Also, did you once have passion for programming then it faded? I still love it 10 years later.

>>106686414
Alcohol is good if you're autistic. I use it for writing assignments for shit I don't care about. Also improved my understanding of normies and why they do shit like small talk and talk about shit they don't know anything about. If I have to write about something I care about or do math it fucks me up though.

>>106683839
>apply for tons of jobs
>even get certification
>"nooooo it's all your fault that you're still jobless and you're not even trying"
why are my parents like this?

>>106686404
IIRC there's cheating software that doesn't show up on screen capture.

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Yup that looks pretty good I think, 1 down 7 to go.

[spoiler]aaaaahhhhh I want to freaking code not color!!! I hate the front end! I hate the front end!!![/spoiler]

What the FUCK is a client highlight?

being an unemployable white cs graduate in 2025 is 100 times worse than being a holocaust victim

>>106686518
WhisperGPT?

>>106686518
not that guy but I've failed them even with the cheating software lol

my job is ending.. uh oh.. I’m FUCKED. I’ve been grinding some new skills but I haven’t gotten through my home-made curriculum yet and I’m not going to get there in time. I really REALLY do not want another webdev job, if it’s even possible to GET a job anymore. I feel sick. I’m trying to brush up on my C and learn PCB design and microcontrollers and stuff because it’s way more interesting but I’m still figuring all that out FUCK FUCK FUUUUUCK

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>now just do it all again for ph*neplebs

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That wasn't at all tedious.

Just...

Three

Mo

How do people become successful. They're at the right place at the right time. Why not put yourself at the right place then?
At person tending plants at a vertical farm is at a better place than someone doing it for costco.

I really do not feel good

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Are things getting better, worse, or staying the same?

>>106688032
Worse, these companies are continuing to downsize to stay green at the moment.

>>106688032
Nothing ever gets better anon

>>106687825
wrong. people become successful by being born into a good supportive family that works together as a family. but successful people will never tell you this because it explodes the illusion that they are self-made.

>>106686338
The interviewer was cute it's so over

>>106688097
I feel this deeply. My family is a shattered mess..

>>106688032
none of those things

>>106688118
I know that feel.

>>106688097
That is the surest path to success not the only one. Not many people know about vertical farms. By the time they do the person tending plants will be a manager hiring them for the most essential resource. Food.

>>106686894
TRUTH NUKE
specify white male next time. shit sucks.

>>106688221
The idea behind vertical farms is that they be automated. That implies programming. You wouldn't even tend to the plants. The first prize would be the salary the second stock options.

>>106670787
had a zoom interview today.
Email said to test mic and webcam beforehand, so I did.
Used the default webcam app in windows. no issues. tested microphone with the voice recorder. no issues.
Finally join the zoom call after like 3 different tries to get the fucking browser to actually open the app because they still haven't figured that step out after 5+ years of this shit.
Naturally, of course, despite my best efforts to make sure this stupid fucking thing works, zoom decides to not recognize the webcam even though it's reading the mic just fine(which is built into the webcam and on the same USB).
Proceed to stumble through the fucking questions like a tardo.
Seriously fuck zoom and every other iteration of this bullshit.

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>>106688637
Zoom really is dogshit. You know how many problems I've ever had with Skype? Or Teams?
Not fucking ONCE. Yet techies shit on Teams for some reason.

>>106688669
Teams was really bad during coof and brainlets never moved on, and it's always in vogue to screech about microsoft anyway even when the product is objectively the best in its field (powershell)

>>106688713
I was getting paid to sit around and do nothing during the first 8 months of the coof so I maybe dodged a bullet there.

>>106688713
>Teams was really bad during coof and brainlets never moved on
Teams really did suck terribly during covid and so I never gave it a second chance and everyone else I worked with moved on too. They blew it

I'm noticing that no applications are asking for recommendations. I think recs would be a major plus for me. Do you add them to an extra page on your resume? Seems like adding three good recs with my resume could potentially help but I also doubt anyone not asking for a rec would use one until at the very least I made it through initial screening

what roles are you guys applying to? I'm applying to frontend and node.js fullstack roles

>>106688773
same, i was active military at the time and even had to go in to the "office". not even wfh they just made people go to day on day off shift work (and everyone was mad at the end because "productivity" was NOT affected because it's the fucking military, if you're not on operation you're not productive so why are there HR karen beancounter metrics at all)

>>106688975
ok but many organizations still have a teams subscription anyway, yet normies insist on getting on telegram or whatsapp or something as a "side channel" when teams works just fine these days.

the only true genuine thing bad about teams is the "authenticator" for mobile but just like dont use it, make it call you for 2fa. it just werks.

>>106689052
in my experience they ask for recommendations/references later in the process.

>>106689140
mercenary help desk in latvia

>>106689140
backend (mostly java or python), helpdesk, sys admin assistant

>>106689140
Generic SWE roles generally. Be it fullstack development or dipping more into research stuff.

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Gentlemen, I just had a great final interview with one for another position in a week or two.
I think I will be leaving you all soon.

Stop being a bunch of lazy fucks and start applying for startup jobs. They usually don't give a fuck about experience as long as you show you are actually good (open source contributions, whatever) and willing to work 70 hours a week.

t.startup founder.

>>106689140
Backend development roles, data analytics.

>>106689140
software eng, backend eng/dev, junior - whatever.
>>106689352
>70 hr weeks
are all startups this shitty

My interview was slated for 30 minutes but only took 12, is that bad news

>>106689352
You forgot the part about being able to do five jobs at once while getting paid for one. Fuck off and keep sucking your daddy money

>>106689352
>70 hrs
>41% of your week at work
I want a job but come the fuck on.

>>106689352
if you want to hire anons from here you can use the /utwg/ job board https://utwg.fren.work/

>>106689352
Are you hiring?

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>>106689140
Retail. I tried to apply to be a linecook but I didn't have the experience

>>106689140
A bunch of cyber roles. Still no luck for a while.

>>106689352
Just had an initial interview with a startup (<100 employees, ~3 y/o) and he at the end he gave what the rest of the hiring process would be. Still would have to have 3(!!!) more interviews and woudl now if I had the job sometime in November. I applied to startups so I wouldn't have to deal with this bloated red tape shit

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Third world bros, what's your plan? Spam job applications? Fiverr? Switch careers? Go back to uni? Emigration? It's dire everywhere now.
>>106689140
Mobile, backend.

>>106690009
i'm a third worlder i have zero hopes. all the immigration pathways are slowly shutting down. I don't have the grades or the money to pursue a masters degree abroad. I'm just spamming applications

It's Thursday in Australia currently, about 8am. I can't wait for another day of silence or a rejection email that I can't follow up to see where I have gone wrong while I try and plug away at another self made project no one is going to look at.
Fuck me dead, I'm getting legitimately numb to it all.

>>106690103
>I'm getting legitimately numb to it all
disillusionment is the first step to success

>>106690103
>plug away at another self made project no one is going to look at.
too close to home, bro...

>>106690129
why dont you meaningfully contribute to open source instead?

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>>106690009
Eat shit jeet

>>106690136
how can a retard like me have anything of value to contribute to an open source project? Wouldn't most of the low hanging fruit be solved / fixed?
honestly asking. I just have academic experience.

>>106690178
>Wouldn't most of the low hanging fruit be solved / fixed?
yes, but thats because it's easy and anyone could have done it
You'll get hired by fixing the harder problems the normalfag can't solve in a few hours of trying. That would imply actually understanding computing/the codebase until you have a grip on whats going on to the extent that you can fix some faulty facet of the implementation.
From what I understand, this can lead down a pretty profitable rabbithole of problems implicit in libraries or whatever the fuck. If you can recognize those patterns, someone worth a shit will recognize you. At least thats the hope in the barren wild west era of tech

>>106690136
For me, most of the projects that I could contribute to with my skills have already been contributed to thoroughly by people of a higher caliber to me. The best I've done is find a missing niche and made libraries for it, but those were probably niche for a reason.

>Apply for job last night
>Get an email notification today that they received it
Is this a good or bad sign?

>>106689352
What keywords do you look up for on LinkedIn and Indeed for startups? Surely it's not startup. If it is that's retarded.

>>106690236
You are wrong. There are so many projects out there that need hands. Too much work too few contributers. Look around. Find pretty successful packages that aren't the extreme popular ones. They will have many issues and often even have a "good first issue" or similar type tag to try to attract people like you. They're are easy to solve but the mantainers have bigger things to do. In my experience people are also very supportive of anyone who wants to help out with their project and will give advice.

>>106690282
Well I'll keep looking then, I think for now it's a mixture of lack of motivation currently because no income and being afraid of fucking up.

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Just prepare yourself and be as nice as possible with the interviewers until you get the job.
Works for me.

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>apply to local companies near your hometown
>apply all over the country
>apply to cs adjacent roles like it/ba/da
>apply to small companies with a size of 500
>apply within 1 hour of posting
>use ai to assess your qualifications for jobs
>use ai to tailor each resume
>network irl
sigh

is it really that hard to earn enough money to get away from my conservatard charliepilled antihomo parents? things have gotten so bad that i've literally been snapping in the middle of class

also side note but commuting in college has literally turned me into a leftist urbanist

>>106690653
I think walkable cities are great but it won't turn me into a leftist.
>$16 an hour for an entry level job
About 24 an hour in dollarydoos... I made more doing retail work, the fuck?

>yo you want to work as a doctor? where are your public brain surgeries you conduct in your free time?

>>106690557
https://files.catbox.moe/kith32.jpg
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>>106691243
For stuff that is free and open source it's a fair enough thing.
For enterprise level software it is ridiculous.

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Well the interview I got today went like shit. I got really nervous and started stuttering horribly, they told me they'd text me later with the details of my performance but I think I'm just gonna get ghosted. I might have a chance with another company tomorrow, at least.

>>106691249
That's the reason you don't have a job.

>>106688637
unfortunately the solution is to buy a macbook. C-levels all use macs so zoom on mac is flawless.

>>106690178
depends on the project. there are prominent new projects every year.
contributing to Linux kernel is harder than contributing to some meme MCP library.

>>106690689
>elder care
>$16/hour
grim. cue staff_beating_demented_boomer.webm's from /pol/...

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>>106691243
American MD's went through ridiculous med school gauntlet. most CS grads chose CS because they like gayming or it pays well (only if you are good).
the truth is a double whammy: nepotistic hiring networks + oversupply of incompetent college grads.

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>>106692227
+ it isn't a difficult degree. that's going to ruffle some feathers but it's true.

>>106692227
what's your point my ninja

>>106692302
exactly. anyone can graduate so just "being a CS grad" is barely above as "have a GED"
>>106692321
you can be reasonably certain that anyone who finished med school and residency is OK. CS is too easy of a major so you need additional evidence

>>106690288
The fear of not being good enough is normal but it’s fine to not get it perfect. As long as you’re not completely half-assing it to squeeze in so contributions for the resume the maintainers will mostly be helpful and happy you are trying. Experience programmers often like teaching more than you would think. A few are just dicks but most aren’t and you can look at past issues to look at how things go. Whether the maintainers seem receptive to help or not and also learning how you should make a pull request. Which brings up: read the contribution guidelines if they have it. It’s a bad start if you mess something up that has been clearly stated in the contribution file. But don’t overthink it. Go for it the fear will go down. Even experienced contributors make mistakes. It’s not a big deal

>>106692335
>additional evidence
like a technical interview or something?

>>106692335
> you can be reasonably certain that anyone who finished med school and residency is OK
Intuitively al that matters is the demand. If you had 100x med students competing for the same number of jobs, they couldn’t all get one. If everyone is getting match quickly, it’s because there’s enough jobs. Expectations in tech have gotten out of control because worker supply is way too high.

Also while I wouldn’t consider any modern BS particularly hard, there’s always a shock when you leave you demographic and see how incredibly dumb so of the groups you don’t usually interact with are. There are people who struggle to get a high school degree or struggle to pass community college

Anyone else found they did better on a job doing something vs doing their degree? The hands on experience always clicked with me more than the pure theory classes.

>>106692347
yeah but not everyone interviews well. kinda like college: some people are good at projects, some are good at exams.

>>106692415
kek yes. a certain demographic of master's students hunting for OPT make me ask whether Durgasoft videos was the bulk of their education.

>>106670787
Any other Americans seen an increase in recruiter spam since Trump announced the fees for H-1Bs? I've started getting tons of Androiddeveloper spam again (I quit Android about 7 years ago) and today I got a call from some "placement" company that offered to "enhance" my resume by claiming I worked for them for the past few years.

>>106692455
not yet. I fucking wish.

>>106692519
It's all shit so far. I've been writing business software on a MS tech stack for 7+ years and I still only get Android spam.

>>106692302
>that's going to ruffle some feathers but it's true.
Is there really anyone that thinks it is super hard? CS was always seen as one of the easier STEM degrees to get even before the internet and AI made it even easier.

>>106692540
Also, the intelligibility of the jeetas who cold call me is way down since a couple years ago. All the semi-intelligible ones must have been promoted to customer service call centers.

>>106692559
some people like to believe it is as difficult as a traditional engineering degree.

somehow made it to a 2nd round panel interview for a Junior DevOps role on Monday and have no idea how to prep
barely out of my undergrad with one internship under my belt which mostly some Python + AWS. Their stack is heavy on Swift and React which I don't have any experience with.

>>106692570
GL

>>106692564
excelling is difficult, passing is trivial

>>106692588
You can say that for basically anything though. Excelling is a relative thing.

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I've been employed for 5 years. What the hell is codeforces?

Your legs are broken
You gain brozouf

>>106692302
Yes. I regret not doing EE, but I started during the covid scam and there's no uni nearby that has EE. Doing Engineering would get me ~100k in debt.

>>106693254
EE is hard bro, kvl/kcl sucks

>>106693273
Yes but the difficulty keeps the normies out and the engineer licensing keeps the value up. CS is a shit degree now that it got filled with normies. I went for this degree hoping to get a comfy autistic job, but instead I got into some career path for sweaty failed business majors.

fellers
I am studying for CCNA, does anyone know how i get my hands on jeremy's anki deck?

>>106693254
>>106693273
I was doing EE and it wasn't the Electrical shit that was tripping me up, it was the core engineering subjects that go on different disciplines that tripped me. I did all of the core Electrical stuff, but fucked up so much on the mechanical subjects that I had to drop my dual degree and go into just IT.
Fuck Mechanical.

>>106693360
lil bro cant understand supercharging KEK WHAT A BITCH

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>tfw got a job where i have to know how computers work AND how mechanical stuff works
the day I get all my access passes and shit I am so fucking fired

>>106686426
No, I don't work for free.

>>106693407
>apply to thousands of jobs per month
>do all the leetcode
>do all the video cover letters
>do all the other humiliation rituals
>dont even get a rejection email
>this retarded furfaggot can get a job though
This job market is fucked.

Every time I set out to learn about a new technology (currently Elasticsearch) I end up learning more about Linux and networking than I do whatever it is I was trying to learn in the first place.

>>106676724
During my initial security clearance investigation thing, I had a black dude going through my paperwork and he asked me my race (white, Asian) and he said he thought I was black. I laughed and he said he was serious and I was like oh what, and he was like you're not even half? And I was like uhh no. I'm still confused about that years later.
>t. unhealthily pale hapa

What the fuck is radar?

I should've focused on getting good at coding these past few months instead of applying to jobs. I got a few interviews but I squandered them because I suck at coding.

>>106693360
My degree was also "EE" but had a shit load of things like that like fluid dynamics, thermodynamics, structure physics, etc. They were about as hard as the electromagnetism subjects I'd say.
The 4th year multivariable control class shat on all of those in terms of difficulty. It wasn't even close, tho I think a big reason is that I had forgotten a lot of the 1st year math that got used there.
The thing that sucks about EE is that you study a ton of hard interesting stuff, but it is so wide that you will end up forgetting 90% of it because you will never use it.
You could condense all the content that's relevant to my current job into two semesters.
I have the eternal goal of trying to remember all that shit and maybe do some hobbyist projects with that knowledge so that it doesn't fully go to waste. My heart aches when I remember how much time I spent learning shit just to never use it and forget it.

>>106695834
fluid mechanics in an EE program is just dumb lmao.
t. Chem e who might be going back to that shit if this CS stuff doesn’t workout but I really don’t want to move to the other side of town + a wfh job would be zero chance ever but clearing $180k again would b nice

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>>106671204
Only 5% of CS graduates in Israel find a job.
>>106679498
Cuts your competition in half. Be glad ESL-kun
>>106689140
>frontend and node.js fullstack roles
kek. KWAB even. You realize that is the most anally culled sector in the dev market, right? The 2010s are over, you are another js monkey among tens of millions.
>>106689352
Bullshit cope larp, all startups want experienced devs because they don't have the luxury of the time and effort of teaching the basics. They want to deliver ASAP.
>>106690178
Are you a Linux user? You MUST have encountered an annoying bug or crash or missing feature recently. Fix it.

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>>106689140
Bioinformatics roles, I got this degree in undergrad believing it was rare enough to guarantee a place in the job market, but I've had no luck after a year. It sucks most application boards don't even list it as a possible degree title, so recruiters would actually have to read my resume, which is unlikely. Now I'm going deeper into debt to get my Masters, hope it works out.

>>106696359
>Bioinformatics roles
these fucking SUCK
I worked one and had to deal with so much retarded bullshit

Day 3 of unemployment
Twelve years professional IT experience
Ten total applications sent
One response
One interview scheduled

how the fuck do you pass a tech interview if I'm actually getting some?
pretty sure I've been saying all the right things in the previous ones yet it always ends up as a quick rejection or ghosted for another candidate

>>106696393
How was it? I'm curious. Just optimizing and creating pipelines? Wetlab stuff thrown in?

Wtf why don't everything use vector graphics already? Why are we still using rastershit?

>>106697500
I'm only smart enough to use raster images.

>>106693517
>10 jobs I'm qualified for
>have to apply to hundreds of jobs anyway
>hiring process is tedious humiliation rituals
>end results is dice roll anyway
>rejected from all jobs I would be good at
>accept job I'm not qualified for out of desperation
Yeah somebody needs to fix the hiring process already. I know I'm losing out to many of the jobs I'm good at to people who have no buisness applying. And somebody who should have gotten my job lost out to me.

>>106697630
it is what it is

>>106693360
My experience is there are hard subjects but no hard classes because the ceiling is limited by the bottom students. It's one thing to fail 1 or 2 students but a class of 40 can't have like 5 students failing and another 15 getting Cs. All you have to be is better than the dumb students and you're guaranteed at least a B in any course. Ironically the hardest course I took was sophomore level physics 1 specifically because the teacher was one of those faggots who acted like he took pride in making unreasonably difficult tests and listening to students whine and all that. So the scantron tests would consistently have 60% averages and he would not curve them and then act more like a bitch about it. After every test another significant portion of the class would be gone from the lectures. All the while there was three other physics professors one of whom was some young guy who handed out As.
>>106695834
Everyone whines about "when I'm going to need to know this?" I loved taking random classes. It was interesting learning all this things. And I always felt college was more about learning how to learn than learning about any specific thing, especially by junior year. I have never wished I didn't learn something. Plus they reinforce previous concepts. It's unlikely I'll ever need thermodynamics but it was practice with real-world calculus problems and how to start from a problem statement and translate it to a math problem that can be solved. What integration really meant clicked in random engineering courses not in the calculus courses.

this leetcode stuff is honestly insane. how are you supposed to remember all this?

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>>106679498
dude, post the job listing, I am so wet rn

>>106698062
You learn patterns and requisites

>>106696359
i'm sure you've tried this but you should look at all the recently funded biotech startups and apply to them if they have open positions or just cold email them if not. I saw this particular company on TBPN - https://x.com/untillabs

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>>106679875
book recs plox

>>106698062
Repetition and pattern recognition. The same way you learned how to solve calculus problems.

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>get messaged on linkedin by a recruiter for a C++ role
>get asked for my resume
>attach resume and reply with pic related
>get ghosted
Holy shit why am I so honest?

>>106698155
>The same way you learned how to solve calculus problems
haha... yeah

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>>106698308
Its okay to be honest. Its way more likely that they are farming your number and resume on linkedin than anything else.

The platform really sucks now and third party recruiters feel way behind the curve most times anyway.

>>106698392
Yeah linkedin just fucking sucks. What's the alternative? Indeed doesn't seem any different

>>106698446
I've like hiring cafe so far.
levels.fyi jobs is also alright.
Welcome to the jungle is pretty good for startups if you are in to that.
Its mostly just the third party recruiters that reach out that have been totally useless for me. Also try to apply directly on company sites as much as possible without using indeeds or linkedins url. I typically get more responses that way then otherwise.

>>106698446
I like indeed's website more than linkedin but it still sucks.
Dice is...ok. I'm at the point where I'm going to take my chance at startups. Wellfound has a really good site.

I'm glad my rejection letters are starting to get numbers of who I am up against attached to them.
>500
>1500
Are the lower/upper bands.

>>106670787
I just had a jobs.now position interview for a junior dev. The listing didn't day what it was for but the interviewer explained its full stack development, remote, 100k starting.
My voice cracked a little when asked if that salary is acceptable. Im still in the running right?

>>106699645
this sounds like the script to a cold open sketch for a groyper late night show

>>106699720
And it ends with the prospective employee being asked when they can start and he says "y-you too."

>>106692426
Thats pretty much how learning works. People have learning preferences of audio, visual, or reading, but ultimately hands on in the shit work is what makes people remember. Also why capture the flags are highly recommended and at the minimal, ensure you can do the basics of a job over certs.

>>106671941
Update no one asked for:
>Brush up on stuff for the position
>10 minutes until call, still wildly unprepared
>Take shot of vodka to calm nerves
>(This is very healthy, I definitely don't have social issues stemming from my childhood)
>It is now 31 minutes past when the recruiter was supposed to call me (the call was supposed to be 30 minutes)
>I have not received a call (I even verified the time zone) or an E-mail or text or anything
>I am both upset and relieved
uhh, I guess I'll play the new Dying Light, and then eventually E-mail them to ask what's up

>>106698062
I think if you're intelligent enough the solutions just come to you through intuition. Too bad I'm retarded.

>>106700254
I added 5% left and right padding to the page title it looks even better now.

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>"Mr. Nate Higgers, how does an annual salary of $148,800 sound to you?
>"Sounds f-fine Mr. Shekelberg"
>"Welcome to Chudsoft"

>>106700256
Email? What for?

what is your NEET choice of tv show to watch while neeting? I'm watching frasier

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>>106700330
OZ, something that reminds you about brutality. oh you know what the best thing is, watching someone with a GoPro streaming their wagie shift on YouTube. reminds you of the superiority of using your intelligence to work instead of having to grind like that, and makes you want to stay on task, theoretically.

>>106689352
>willing to work 70 hours a week.
after 40 hours coders stop taking out more bugs than they're adding in, always

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>>106700330
I used to watch and rewatch House MD, but now I'm getting into Lazarus.
If you can ignore the globohomo themes, it's a p good show.

we should apply to techcrunch disrupt with our startup

>Finally get an email that has a person that looked over the resume and rejecting me
>Email them back asking about what caused me to not get the position:

>"We received almost 500 applications so it was a tough decision process for our team to decide who to progress to interview with."
>"My recommendations for all candidates is to ensure your personalityshows through your application by providing insights into what motivates you and examples of your skills"
BUT I DID! I remember the cover letter I made for this one specifically because they had a selection criteria that I answered honestly with direct examples and with links to my work.
Fucking bullshit generic advice.

>>106676397
She got laid off some time after this clip went viral.

>>106680335
>this is actually how hiring works.
Anyone who's actually employed knows what jos.hn wrote is not the standard.

>>106688106
Yup. You're cooked.

>>106686371
Don't bother. Cybersecurity is going all-in on A.I. Learn a trade instead.

>>106686443
>why are my parents like this?
You're not trying hard enough. They worked a summer job to pay for college and purchased a starter home for $60K that eventually appreciated to $1.2 million.

>>106690653
>is it really that hard to earn enough money to get away from my conservatard charliepilled antihomo parents?
Just work at your parents' business?

>>106698308
>3 p.m. to 8 p.m.
No one is looking at applications after 5 p.m. You listing your availability outside business hours is giving "desperate," and, to female recruiters, that's a "red flag."

>>106701535
Yeah I just pretended I'm busy and listed 1pm-5pm as my available hours and got an interview out of it.

>>106698130
https://www.amazon.com/C-12-Nutshell-Definitive-Reference/dp/1098147448/
https://www.amazon.com/Dependency-Injection-Principles-Practices-Patterns/dp/161729473X/
https://www.amazon.com/T-SQL-Querying-Developer-Reference-Ben-Gan/dp/0735685045/

>>106701421
Post your censored resume

>>106698308
Work on your confidence anon that reply is honestly pathetic

>>106701519
>trustfund baby
I can't imagine being this detached from reality

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>second interview was pushed from Friday to Monday

A senior dev told me what a technical interview/take-home assignment looks like for them, but I'm applying for junior dev positions. I wrote down what the assignment was, should I try figuring out how to do the senior dev take-home and put it on my github or something?

>>106701992
I think you should go to Walmart and bug some kneepads

>At [Company™], we do not discriminate on the basis of gender, religion, age, etc.
>At [Company™], we are committed to increasing diversity in our workforce, building a more inclusive place, etc.
>Job application - Please select your gender: Female, Male, Others/Diverse
What do you choose, /utwg/?

>>106702146
I don't mean do it FOR them, I mean for learning.

>>106702169
Other - Demimoore

Think I did pretty well on interview but I showed reluctance to move to DC so they'll probably go with someone else.

>>106693254
the problem with EE is scale and thus profit margins. SaaS has infinite profit margins so good SWEs earn a lot. few job openings for actual good EEs so good luck designing some MCU for a medical device for $150k/yr.

>>106701496
nigger I've got all my jobs through internal referrals. spamming resumes is retarded and leads to nowhere

>>106692227
>6/10 white woman can’t land an adult daycare tech job
That’s how you know it’s over for us

>>106692302
>>106692335
the degree used to be difficult but around the year 2012 the standards were lowered and C++ was replaced in academia by Python and Java because C++ was deemed too hard to teach to the new crop of midwits seeking the degree.

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Has anyone here been crazy enough to look into or apply for game development jobs? Maybe I got the wrong idea, but I assume they're bottom of the barrel. And with how current AAA games keep releasing I wouldn't doubt they just hire anyone. I've heard some will just train you to code for their game, which makes it sound worse. To me applying for a game development job sounds like applying for an animation job these days, but times are tough.

>>106692302
It use to be. Look up stats of those who graduated with one by year. It just keeps getting higher because they lowered the requirements(much like public schools) by removing the need for classes like physics. They removed filters because universities, which are a business first, saw everyone would try to go for CompSci when journalists kept telling everyone to code, so they lowered the graduation requirements so more would graduate and they'd make more money.

got depressed applying for jobs but then I remembered that even indians can get these garbage tech jobs, then I remembered they lie on their resumes and got depressed again

Yet another week gone, yet another week of no callbacks for even an interview. Woot.

I have squandered few screening calls and technical interviews because of my NEET sleep schedule. I wake up so groggy if it's before 4pm and god knows what I tell those screening calls in my half-sleep state

>>106692455
it's still jeet names on the emails, still not replying to that. let them twist in the wind for a while longer

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I’ll never get a good job again. I’m gonna be stuck doing high school dropout tier wagieshit for the rest of my life

>>106705307
Bold of you to assume that you'll have "high school dropout tier wagieshit" jobs available in the future.

>cs graduate
>less than 2% response rate for dev positions
>alright it's time to look for simpler positions
>start looking up helpdesk listings
>requirements: 2+ experience in a similar role (90% of the time)
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS HAPPENING?

>>106705549
why don't you try unpaid internships?

>>106705566
I would've unironically done that but I grew up in the countryside with 0 such opportunities (I tried), so instead I had to work outside of my "profession" for a year after graduating to move to a place that even has IT/dev jobs but even here it's doomed
now I'm stuck doing unhealthy jobs for shit pay while trying to apply to these positions with 0 results
the worst thing is that I don't have much time to code in my freetime anymore and my skills are getting worse and worse by the day, paired with permanent brainfog

>>106705549
>WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS HAPPENING?
the great replacement

>>106705600
you can always go back to doing shit jobs man. but there is a limited window of time for getting a junior dev role. you should just move back and try getting a remote developer job paid or unpaid whatever you can get. the wagie job is eating away your precious time that you can spend learning and applying for jobs. try that for 6 months and if it doesn't work out, you can go back to wagie life

>>106705660
I've been trying to get developer jobs for over a year, the window for getting such a job has clearly passed

>>106705671
post your resume along with the kind of roles you've been applying to

>>106705709
post your dogshit bait elsewhere

Alright header done now just the rest.

>Apply to large company
>>Do you have at least 3 years of experience?
>Yes
>>Do you have a bachelor's degree in computer science or equivalent?
>No
>>Do you or will you need immigration related support for this role?
>No

>>Thanks for your application. Please check back regularly for updates on the portal.
>15 minutes later
>rejected
of course

>>106701751
Imagine throwing around "trustfund baby" and not having a clue what a trust actually is.

>>106702678
jos.hn didn't get an internal reference for the job, retard. the ceo just happened to know him and gave him a job.

>>106706006
>filtered by A.I.
It's over, bros.

>>106690653
I would prefer it if you stay broke and destitute forever, since you're my enemy.