>buy dumb tv for cheap>buy android tv boxes>connect android tv box into dumb tv with hdmi>setup>just werks
Gives me an ick
>>106672430If you're getting a CRT like that, get yourself a mis-- ahahaah no, these people are faggots.Get as raspi or a Wii, and enjoy 240p games for cheap.
>>106672435Did you see your reflection again?
>>106672435The opinion of sub-species does not count.
Wish I could get a huge CRT to do that
>>106672430i bought a flat panel when I was sniping on TF2 b/c i bought into the flatscreen memeit only took a week before the NEC CRT that was about half the size of a faggy euro car was back on my desk because the screen lag cut my reaction time in half
We still tv like that here in my village
>buy dumb tv>connect pozzed backdoored device to ityou should be flayed on TV as a warning to others so that they may cast out their inner folly
>>106672564I like your village.
>>106672564Give them back
>>106672430Even better. Works great and very flexible.
This guy seems pretty based>>>/diy/2938987
>buyi hope you didn't, you can get them free pretty easybonus points if it's 27 inches and over, get a bud to help you move it, then they're almost always free unless it's some reddit faggotron selling a "rare vintage collectible gamer tv" trinitron.
>>106672430based, looks like a similar size to mine. I don't have a computer plugged into it yet but I do have my ps1/ps2/saturn/wii hooked up.
>>106676677Based CRT fags
>>106676677>place cable inputs infront>useful and looks nice>now look at the mess on the leftboomer tech was the peak tech
buying a crt tv is not going to bring back your childhood
>>106678620
>>106678620I am going to brutally sodomize and kill you.
>>106678605actually a lot of the mess is because the extension cord is behind the big tv on the right side and so all the consoles under the crt are plugged in back there, i still need to find a way to tidy it up more. The crt also has more rca inputs on the back that you can swap between with the remote
>>106676677what game?
>>106672435Begone wannabe thot.
>>106678620>buying a crt tv is not going to bring back your childhoodYes it will. I will buy an old Playstatoin and I will connect the rca cables and then play some Dino Crises 2.
>>106679815kings field
>>106673843Retard. You picked up on the wrong characteristic. You had a context clue worth 1000 words.
>>106672430I can feel and smell the electrostatic through this photo
>>106681552Wow look at those graphics!
>>106672430>get old CRT>emulate all your favorite old games
>>106676677Why would you plug a computer into a crt tv? Just get a crt monitor, they're 10x better quality than a tv and the adapters are cheap.
>>106685359true 15khz modes
>>106685359i dont mean a whole pc or anything i just mean a minipc/laptop that i can stream old anime/movies out of. at some point i may replace the tv with a crt monitor but i dont really have the desk space to accommodate that
>>10668540915khz is worse than 30khz
>>106686263not for 15khz modes, like 240p/60Hz (and related) or 480i/60Hz
>>106675136> no CEC
>>106686292Why would you willingly use 480i
>>106686293Why would you need CEC if you just use only one input and don't even use the TV to control volume (or sound output at all)? The only "annoying" thing is turning on the TV separately, I don't even turn it off, it automatically turns off in a few minutes without input when I suspend or shut down the PC and when turned on it automatically opens the only active input.
>>106686344for 480i content, but yeah, 240p is much more important here
>>106686263Not for anything with dithering (eg pre-7th gen console games).>>106672430The absolute comfiest gaming experience can be had for under $100:>Free CRT thrown away by some boomer on Facebook marketplace. Forget about RGB, S-Video, or YpBpr.>$20 Wii. Hack it and emulate a whole bunch of systems including PS1, all at glorious 240p>$20 PS3. Hack it and play most of the PS2 library even on a Slim + 7th games and a whole bunch of ports>$35 Raspberry Pi 4. Fills the Dreamcast and DS blindposts the Wii and PS3 can't cover. And it does 240p.
>buy "smart" tv for cheap>buy android tv boxes>connect android tv box into "smart" tv with hdmi>setup>just werksYou can use an Android box on a "smart" TV too. The first thing you do with a "smart" TV is press source, choose HDMI 1, then never look at the WebOS/Tizen/VIDAA/whatever other shit again.Also turn off eco mode ("Auto Power Saver"/"Power Saving Step"/"Eco Solution"/"Brightness Optimization") and motion smoothing ("TruMotion"/"MotionFlow"/Clear Motion Plus"/"Motion Clarity")
>>106686723Based /vr/fag
>>106686723>including PS1
>>106675079kek
>>106681552wtf is that real?
>>106688786WiiStation runs 99% of titles at full speed without any graphical errors
>>106672450there are digital-to-analog transcoders, or you can build a CRT emudriver
>>106686723this shit has to be a lie, i run games like this on my CRT TV at 240p and it's still pretty crisp, im convinced every pic like this online is a myth, or else my random tv is a PVM in disguise
>>106692314Are you running in NTSC or PAL60?
>>106692339I have no idea. It's all running on a Wii emulator
>>106692349Is it a PAL Wii?
>>106692378no, but i think FCEUGX can do different modes. which one gets you that nice blurring effect?
>>106692414On that same emulator (and SNES9GX) I have to fiddle around with the video settings each time I launch the emulator or press the home button, since it resets the video settings each time it displays the emulator frontend. After launching a game, fiddle with the two video mode settings (one should be about resolution and the other should be about regional format) by changing them to anything, then go back to the game, then go back to the settings, and set them to "Original" and "480i", then go back to the game. You should see blended dithering now, but it resets for me each time I press the home button/start the emulator.
>>106686798its not necessarily HDMI 1...some TVs particularly ones in the past didnt have full capabilities on all ports. Sony was bad about this where HDMI 2/3 were the full 4k@60 ports BUT you also had to enable this is the TV settings. Also its helpful to know which port is the eARC port incase you wanted to use that functionality as well.
>>106686723Hlw much is a pi 4 these days? Can it play saturn and ps1 well?
>>106692603The MSRP for a 1GB Pi4 is 35 USD. It plays PS1 real nice, but Saturn is a non-starter; you best wait for seta-gx.
>>106692603>>106692609It plays Dreamcast really awesomely btw, but again Saturn is a non-starter
>>106672564uttar pradesh?
>>106672442kek
>>106679917it will never be the same and you know ityou ll always feel empty inside because its just nostalgia>>106685342>emulate on crt with crt effect shader
>>106678620Nostalgia? I use a CRT because the games look better that way.
>>106692314That is the result of a very low quality video signal, not of the TV being a CRT. If you have super high quality input signal (RGB, even S-Video) it will not look like that, things don't just blend willy-nilly in that fashion. It might happen on bad quality composite, or even more likely on bad quality RF.I have a cheapo TV from the 2000s hooked up via SCART (so RGB) to a PC because that's easiest. It also means the signal is high quality and even this cheap, low-end TV doesn't blend like that. It's sharp enough that you can basically see individual pixels on edges and such in 240p.
>>106693145The type of CRT does play a big part in how the image looks
>>106692314it's because of composite (or RF). you get a bit of horizontal smearing and chroma artifacts because the signal itself is degraded. if you use scart/rgb or component, then it will look about as sharp as a pc monitor without those effects
>>106692727>>emulate on crt with crt effect shaderThere's no CRT effect shader.
>>106693156Type of screen, rather.
>>106672430>EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>106686723>>106692234why emulate on the Wii when the PS3 is backwards compatible? are you retarded
>>106695684Just get a mini PC
Or instead of doing this, you could just watch movies and stuff on your pc/laptop, which you probably already own. You actually rarely ever have to consume a product
>>106672438This is what i do to watch sd content on my 200lb crt tv. I also pass the audio through an apple usb to analog dongle to my old 90s reciever and use it as a network media player.
>>106695736Considering Wiis and PS3s are pretty much pennies and CRT TVs literally free, why not have a dedicated setup for old movies/series/anime and /vr/ games if that's your thing?
>>106695767Point me toward a free CRT (excluding old ones that give you brain tumors)
>>106695822I open local sales sites, classifieds or Facebook marketplace and there's always a few near by being given away, at least in Europe, heard things are worse in the US.
>>106686348>Why would you need CECOnly someone who hasn't experienced CEC can ask this.>The only "annoying" thing is turning on the TV separatelyFor the use case you described, I guess it's not that annoying, but it's a very rare use case to have a TV permanently connected to a single input and for it to auto-switch to that input and for it to turn off automatically on no input.
>>106695974>Only someone who hasn't experienced CEC can ask this.Of course I have, but these days I almost exclusively only use TVs hooked up to computers. I get the most out of it that way, everything from YouTube with adblockers to Netflix/Prime (don't use them anymore though) to locally stored content on my media server and even subscription set-up box content from my providers website when I log in. >but it's a very rare use case to have a TV permanently connected to a single inputThat's the impression I got from OP though, that that's all you need, a TV and a Android set-up box. >for it to auto-switch to that input and for it to turn off automatically on no input.My TVs default to the last active input when turned on manually and automatically turn off when no input in received. Not saying all do that but in my experience, most modern and semi-modern ones do.
>>106695599once you hit a certain age you'll hear it even without a tv around ;)
>>106695767i got a crt tv for $5 10 years ago, but the days of finding them on the street are over. last time i found on on the street was in around 2011. at this point everyone who wanted to throw a crt tv out has done so already.that's how it works. something drops in value to the point where it's literal street-side garbage, but after that point, they start to rise in value again, as they become rarer.
>>106696153Still plenty here, you can't throw electronic trash away or dump it on the street, you have to bring it to e-waste and pay for it to be taken off your hands. Easier to just give it away and let someone else deal with it.
>>106696153Last year I found a giant Mitsubishi TV near the sidewalk when I was walking back from the grocery storeby the time I came back with empty hands to grab it, someone purposefully broke it
>>106696185sure, that's even accounting for that. i'm most likely not in the same country as you, but i know what you mean, like many places won't take crts specifically due to their lead content, this special case caused them to hang around in peoples' storage for longer than they'd like.perhaps in some places you can still to this day find them on the street. i did enjoy driving past one and picking it up, cleaning it up and attaching a new power cord on it and playing some softmodded wii on it.but at some point, even where you live, what i describe will happen. once the vast majority have thrown theirs out, all that will be left is the few who "know what they have" and prices will increase. if you want one, you will have no choice but to buy from those who thought to keep one.
>>106696249>by the time I came back with empty hands to grab it, someone purposefully broke iti'm too drunk to be mad right now, i can't imagine what you felt
>>106696252Of course, every day it gets harder to find a CRT for free or cheap, so if you want one, the sooner the better.
>>106696273yep, no more are getting made, so it's only going to get worse. look out for bargains, but don't look too long, it's not getting better overall.
>>106695684Because the PS3 can't output 240p; it does 480i at a minimum.
>>106695714Can't output 240p.
>>106686723That has absolutely nothing to do with 15khz, the blur comes entirely from the input source. It's the easiest thing to emulate in the world even on a 30khz crt.
>>106696347Yeah, it comes from the original Genesis's shitty composite encoder.
>>106696347>the blur comes entirely from the input sourceAnd what is the frequency of a composite signal?
>>106696386The blue has nothing to do with the frequency, composite is just a shitty input. S-video and RGB both exist as higher quality 15khz inputs.30khz is objectively better than 15khz. 15khz is good for compatibility with old consoles and vcr shit but it's still worse.
>>106696497>lower bandwidth worsewho knew
>>106696308Old video but point stands.
>>106696527What hardware do I need to buy to achieve this?
>>106696968old Radeon GPU and CRT Emudriver
>>106696968Depends on your output. If you have native VGA, like semi-modern iGPUs, a VGA to SCART cable that joins sync lines, if you have DP, you also need a decent DP to VGA adapter, HDMI can work too but I've had problems with HDMI. Otherwise it's just settings the right modelines for 15kHz output on the output the TV is connected. Very modern cards will only do 240p though, no 480i, i.e. RTX cards and AMD equivalent of the period, haven't tested Intel iGPUs after Skylake either, but those do work with 240p/480i. >>106697043No need. Do you think that mini PC has a old Radeon card in it?
>>106697050Is VGA to RCA trivial? Cause I've no interest in RGB.
>>106697073Then you'll need extra hardware, I never bothered with VGA to composite because I can already passively do VGA to RGB SCART with no extra hardware in the chain. If I need more composite like output I can still use shaders.
>>106672435This so much. CRTs honestly just intimidate me with their heavy, unwieldy appearance and their squeaky, springy buttons and fragile lead glass screen. My heart races every time I push the button to turn it on, it's like it might explode at any moment, releasing all of its toxins into the environment and poisoning me. They feel dangerous, like an electric oil heater on wheels, or those Brazillian suiciede showers.
>>106697164>fragileHA. There's no flat panel that could take a hit like a CRT.
>>106697164>FragileYou had to punch them to turn them on in some cases.
>>106697164>explodeimplode*
>>106697164>it's like it might explode at any momentCRTs implode though.
>>106697181A flat panel can be replaced, a CRT will shatter and implode into a black hole.
>>106697242>It can be replacedThat doesn't mean it's not fragile lol
>>106697242A tube can be replaced too though.
>>106672430>CRT>hdmiwat
>>106697495Later CRTs had HDMI but usually sucked for various reasons.
>>106697508there were almost no regular CRTs with HDMI, though component and Svideo were somewhat common. HDMI showed up on DLP and rear projection which is not CRT
>>106697561Plenty of later widescreen CRTs had HDMI. I've had several. They always had other problems though, like being 100Hz or increased latency even when doing analog signals.
>>106697495>>106697588at that point just get a dozen of those cheap chinese adapters and replace them as needed, they break often
>>106697619you mean like hdmi to composite rca?
>>106697631I guess they come in black nowadays
>hdmiairplay just works
>>106697649Okay for just watching trash but they can't actually do proper 1:1 240p or 480i, but neither can CRT TVs like >>106697588 so...
>>106696308240p you can get out of mostly any PC with super-resolutions. You could get 240p out of a 5090 if you want. Getting 480i is the trickier part since interlaced isn't really a thing that's properly and easily supported. You can get 480i output from certain older AMD GPUs, either on Windows with CRT emudriver or on something like Batocera with the CRT setup script which configures it for you.
>>106697699>You can get 480i output from certain older AMD GPUsYeah it's a driver thing I think, even a 1080 Ti will output 480i but modern GPUs from both Nvidia and AMD don't support interlaced resolutions at all.
>>106697686that's my pointthey're absolute trash but get the job done about as wellif you can't get a proper upscaler or even a startech those are your best option
>>106697649None of those do 240p.
>>10669707315khz from a PC goes from easy to stupidly difficult if you don't use RGB. It's better to just get a crt monitor and emulate at that point.
>>106697907Even Americans can just RGB mod their sets.
>>106697915Not everybody wants to larp as a high-voltage electrician.
>>106697931You're over exaggerating, it's not that dangerous or hard if you can follow instructions.
>>106697907>>106697915But I want composite
>>106697954You will never get composite from a PC. S-video at most
>>106697961>S-video at mostEven then most S-Video outputs from old PC GPUs were hardcoded, like outputting 480i even when you tried to do 240p. Also some old GPUs did have straight up composite output, not just S-Video.
>>106697950Telling people it's not that hard or dangerous to open the death box is terrible advice. Normies really shouldn't be fucking around with the inside of a CRT
>>106697991I don't think the average normie neither cares or dares anyways. You'd expect people on /g/ to have some technical knowledge though.
>>106685359You know how hard it is to get a crt monitor these days? They're hundreds of dollars
>>106698601Boomers throw them away for free on FB marketplace all the time
>>106700285Boomers don't own crt monitors anymore they all got thrown away a decade ago. The modern boomer screens are thise shitty 2008 4:3 LCD that only take VGA.Legit if I wanted a crt monitor I'd have to drive 5 hours and pay $200 for the privilege.
>>106672435why the fuck do you enter the thread? are you retarded? do you enter random houses of people and tell them you dont like them? holy shit, fuck off, faggot.
>>106696133I thought it's the opposite, that you CAN'T hear very high pitch tones.
>>106700654Oh no you hear them literally non-stop
>>106672430nice circa 2001 Sanyo, I had one just like except it was the mono version.
>>106678620bro I had a crt for half my life and just got one last year. I hate watching 4:3 content on a flatscreen. Let me watch my old anime in peace.
There are CRT TVs and there are CRT monitors. There are plasma TVs, are there plasma monitors?
>>106696133>once you hit a certain ageor if you're in a band...
>>106678620CRTs look better than any flatscreen in existence and you'll just have to keep seething about it
>>106697588where do you find good CRT's with built in HDMI input anon?
>>106672430Just works for what? Android blows more dick than almost anything. All I need is a "fake desktop" that can't run real apps.. yeah, I want to fuck around with the YouTube app for 5 minutes between each video.
Chinese cartoons, and even better if the last good source they had was on DVD, look fucking amazing even on a large CRT. 27 inches panablack in the picture throu a PS3 using Movian.
>>106700285Getting a CRT monitor these is like winning the lottery. Not the big lottery where you win millions, but a scratch off ticket. If you keep looking for months and months eventually you'll win, but the result isn't going to be that good and if you're unlucky you won't find one at all.
>>106678620I just like the way tubes look.
>>106695736My PC is hooked to a CRT anyways.
>>106697050I've got an old Haswell machine that can output 240p with its igpu.
>>106697954>>106697961If you have a laptop with a PCMCIA slot then you can get one of those old PCMCIA video adapters with the composite out.
>>106700938Monochrome monitors were sometimes plasma. They used them a lot on laptops back in the day.
>>106672430sidenote: using linux terminal on super generic 2000s crt tv would be SOVL
>>106695714>you're not doing it right!Just shut the fuck up.
>>106672430This is the way to live, anon. You got it.
>>106685342>>106686723>>106693752>muh emulatorsenjoy your 6 frames of input lag. Unless you are using MAME on low latency mode with nvidia low latency mode on a gaming monitor with less than 5ms latency, it's over. NGMI.
>>106672438spent a year at a nice cottage that only had a CRT. I hacked my wii and watched star trek: TNG on it. It was a great and comfy experience. I should get another CRT.
>>106702264modern emulator technology can achieve lower latency than original hardware
>>106702303this.
can you play modern pc games on a CRT?
>>106703832On a CRT monitor, meant for PC use? Yes you can, quite easily. You will need a way to plug in the VGA connector, but DP or HDMI to VGA converters are common and cheap (some may not be good quality though YMMV as with all chinkshit). That's all you need to get the monitor running, it will just werk. Beyond that it's just a question about resolution and aspect ratio support for each game, whether they can run at 4:3 by default or whether they're retarded and only support 16:9 or something. Plenty of games support arbitrary ARs but plenty also do not. This doesn't have anything to do with the monitor being a CRT, just the AR though.If you mean on a CRT TV then that would be significantly more difficult. Running 240p is almost certainly going to be too low for modern games even if they support 4:3. You could try 640x480i, but getting interlaced output is difficult and even 640x480 may be too low for some games. Generally speaking to get native 15kHz resolution support on Windows you need to use certain older AMD graphics cards with a hacked version of an older GPU driver. Assuming you set that up then you can launch PC games and run them on a CRT TV too, but like I said the resolutions supported are likely going to be limiting.
>>106703883>On a CRT monitor, meant for PC use?yes, thanks
>>106703901You're welcome
>>106702264>never used RA on a real CRT
>>106703883>Generally speaking to get native 15kHz resolution support on Windows you need to use certain older AMD graphics cards with a hacked version of an older GPU driver.>>106697050>Very modern cards will only do 240p though, no 480i, i.e. RTX cards and AMD equivalent of the period, haven't tested Intel iGPUs after Skylake either, but those do work with 240p/480i.
>>106703883i can confirm at least my RX6600 can do interlaced modes in my crt monitor. haven't tried 480/576i though. in linux
>>106705042Then you can probably do 15kHz 480i too.
>>106702264Retard
>>106672435480p LCD TVs honestly mog the ever living fuck out of them.
>>106706917
>>106705042Newer AMD cards can do 15kHz interlaced but I think the driver needs some patches or something. I know it's possible to use them on Batocera (Linux) but IIRC they have some patches for the driver. You will also need particular DP to VGA adapters since most don't seem to handle interlaced properly and I think HDMI to VGA adapters don't work at all since HDMI has pixel clock limits that won't allow you to go low enough to hit 15kHz resolutions natively.
>>106702264Source?
>tfw they no longer make CRTs let alone good CRTs>it's been 999 years and LCDs still aren't good5 more years to go; surely QDEL will be the charm and totally won't have some major issue preventing it to be good
>>106709889>>it's been 999 years and LCDs still aren't goodOLED.
>>106685342>Dials on a separate shelf on the bottom of the display, facing upwardHoly soul.
>>106709989
>>106709895- sample and hold- pwm brightness- still expensive despite being as old as lcds- worse burn-in than crts
>>106691494No.If the $699 can't get even close to it, a shitass sony thing will never, it's obviously just sprites
>>106697854I have one and indeed it can't.It can't do anything but 1280x720, with all the other resolutions being just bilinear scale.for 480i stuff it works very well, but 240p stuff you either have to choose between blur or flicker.
>>106702264I don't even know how the fuck you get to 6 frames of input lag.1 is expected because double buffer bullshit, 2 i can see it happening, but 6, it needs to be the poorliest poorly coded emulator ever made.
>>106672438I remember that combination in the mid 2010s when my family would hang out in the basement on the hotter summer days. I should do that again
>>106711348>I should do that againbut would it be the same as before if you did?
>>106711368Never the same, but so much better
>>106703832You can run basically anything on anything with the proper converters. I played Deltarune on my tube TV with one of those HDMI to AV converters. If you want a good picture you can use an HD tube. Some of them have VGA or HDMI inputs, though even the ones with only component can still be connected via an HDMI to component converter.
>>106711300Just a misterfag coping again
>>106711025>- pwm brightness??
