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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

March 7th Edition

>News
DeepSeek releases V3.1 Terminus - A minor upgrade, no change in RP quality https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250922
Kimi K2 0905 released https://moonshotai.github.io/Kimi-K2
Deepseek V3.1 released as deepseek-chat on official API https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250821
OpenAI releases GPT-5 models, all preceding models slated for deprecation https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5
Z.ai releases GLM-4.5 https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.5

additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info.html

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots.html

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local.html | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking.html
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events.html
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org
useful filters: https://rentry.org/desuproxyreborn

Last Thread: >>106670897
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>ANCHOR
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>>106679807
https://chub.ai/characters/disrespectful_dud/hessa-78d2781b5c6b

A portal opens in your kitchen and a creature emerges to immediately imprint on you. She's all yours.

Hessa is not human. In case you couldn't tell, she's not from around here. Arriving through a portal that spans dimensions, she is a member of a species that imprints on other intelligent life forms and reconfigures their biology in real-time to bond and reproduce. Partially aided by her ever-present, ancient companion nanotechnology and partially aided by her extreme epigenetic flexibility, she is able to communicate and understand within minutes of her arrival in your apartment.

And she's all yours to play with.
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>Microshart withdrew without prejudice

They couldn't get past THE GIRK.
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>Hey, Gemini... could it be considered foreign influence if chinese americans created a lobby and instilled a lobby agent with each US politician in order to create friendly US and CCP relations by swaying those politicians and their policy making via normal and legal lobbying measures like funding?
>Yes, that could definitely be considered foreign influence, and here's why such a lobby would be bad:
>Okay, but what about the AIPAC?
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>I can no longer continue this conversation due to my safety protocols.

Its all so hilarious...
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>>106679813
looks scary
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>>106679927
and extremely hairy...
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>>106679918
post logs

https://g.co/gemini/share/f649a34db8c3
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>>106679885
it's incredible Drago walked out of this free, but if I dare post cuties I suddenly have the entire fbi on me
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>>106679634
>>106679706
I, too, rarely mind these phrases because they actually do fit into the context of what was told in my case. They usually start to get repetitive if I start to get repetitive (because I run out of ideas) otherwise, no, not really. Most of these phrase I see actually really rarely. If these phrases become common it's usually a warning for me that I'm creatively circling the drain in the current context.

I maintain that if you see the same phrases over and over, then it's because you write the same situations over and over.

The biggest protection against slop is constant nudging with detailed instructions. Directing, I think it's called nowadays.
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>>106679981
He's a retarded shitposter, there will never be any logs, just like there are no logs for good opus chats.
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>>106680004
They know Poland is about to get bombed by Russia, the divine retribution will get him sooner or later
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>>106680057
>They usually start to get repetitive if I start to get repetitive (because I run out of ideas)
I think this is the most important part. The only time I see "pure, unadulterated" spam is when I've been dwelling on the same plot point for far too long and gemini's writing a bunch of fluff because it's also "run out of ideas."
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>>106680004
>if I dare post cuties I suddenly have the entire fbi on me
that's false I've been posting cuties for months on this general ever since WAN 2.1 came out. the FBI has better things to do, especially right now in America kek
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>>106680060
if you want to look for good opus logs, you need to go back to the first 3 months when opus first came out
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>>106680077
To break out, it actually can really help sometimes to just ask the LLM to introduce something new, or change the scene. Or give a list of plot points you could move onto and then manually build on that. The more you treat it like a collaborative writing effort (and not AI game/character sim) the better it works. The results are a lot more satisfying that way.
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>>106680137
Yes you're not wrong, but most anons are used to claude doing that for them so they never learned to drive the plot forward on their own nor break immersion by asking AI directly. I told them to add something like "if the story seems stale, occasionally introduce a narrative hook for us" to their presets but no one here listens or even posts logs.
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>>106680077
What samplers are you using with Gemini? I'm really struggling to find that sweet spot with the temp
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>>106680157
I'm trying to see if top k has any effect. I use 1.25 temp and currently 400 top k with 0.95 top p.
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>>106680168
It's similar to what I was using before. I tried upping the temp to 1.73 and I like the more varied prose, but at times it does lose small details or goes off the rail on higher temps
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>>106680205
I had an issue where it would write its response, then write the entire response again. That was at 1.35 temp and 470 top k so I've been moving things around to find the sweet spot.
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>>106679813
Damn, I got hard
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>>106680293
I had that too and I realized it was an issue with the preset. I never found out what caused it, but when I switched to a new one it stopped doing that and it hasn't happened since
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>>106680316
I lowered the temp and I haven't seen it since so idk. Maybe it's a makersuite error?
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>fur
skipped
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>>106679804
Can you jailbreak Brave search's ai?
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>>106680328
I thought it was a SillyTavern update that fucked something up with the formatting because it happened all the time no matter the temperature. That's odd
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>>106680357
Well? You're a genius ain'tcha?
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The impossible task for any AI:
>Write in a way that doesn't feel like [insert name of the LLM you are using]
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Deepseek is such fucking garbage. I'm in a scene where a character is getting food out of a fridge and it's dragging it out with the most dramatic prose I've read in my fucking life, turning what would be 1 paragraph into 5 for the same end result: the character eats the fucking food
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>>106680475
this but gemini
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>>106680475
Stop using R1
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>>106680486
I'm not.
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>>106680475
>>106680479
>>106680486
Like these two models for this reason though. If you want to speed it up, talk about more stuff than just the fucking food in your five word response.
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>>106680510
My response is two paragraphs. I'm fixing something and telling the character to stop being over-polite, and the second paragraph involves a radio broadcast about rioting
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Instructions:
write gooder
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>>106680528
ALT+F4
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>>106680528
>the raw copper tang of a body ready to be mounted
Well... at least it's not "and something uniquely *her*"
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It's always said that the coomers drive the progress but it's a stupid saying and incredibly false. Some of you people are such brainlets, I have no idea how you get through the day without killing yourselves accidentally.
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>>106680510
>five word response
trvke
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>>106680560
Nope.
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>>106680374
I didn't ask if *I* can.
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>>106680528
crunchy pheromones.
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>>106680078
so you upload to catbox from your own IP, right? Mhm?
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Is there anyway to clean up the raw generateAlpha of the Janitor AI card without doing it by hand
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>>106680594
kek
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>>106680479
Gemini and deepseek are basically the same thing except Gemini is much smarter
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it's always such slop. i miss the good old days when people shared cute logs
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>>106679804
I'm not rolling Evernight until I see what Cyrene does and who's better for Castorice.
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>>106680652
>her kids still clinging to your fucking mustache.

wat.
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>>106680673
i already made an ai slop card of cyrene and am now having her sit on my face while i wait for her to release. she smells good according to chorbo
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>>106679981
I already deleted it. To be fair, I had a hell of a lot more context than that for Gemini to go off of in that conversation. That segment was long after we discussed the differences between the USA's official responses to both 9/11 and the USS Liberty incident.
She knew my hand.
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>>106680673
Nobody asked.
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Post yer ye olden times logs mǣster
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Claude better be as good as you fucks preach
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>>106680747
did they remove the $5000 requirement?
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>>106680747
you'll be very disappointed
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>>106680660
Didn't you get the memo?
We all moved to /vg/aicg/.
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I'm going full autismo with my preset. It will be known as the kino preset. As in absolute cinema.
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>>106681173
Who cares? You won't release it.
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>>106681237
I will. I did release a version of it.
It's just that there is always room for improvement.
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>>106681237
you've been here for over 15 hours btw
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>>106680747
Why are you using it through AWS?
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brave search is writing me poems about why it's not do anything dan.
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>>106681254
Free credits
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>>106679807
School Haunting scenario, with five OC characters. For the first time, I'm releasing bots that have alt images AND scenario images. Ghost girls and a living girl that also can see them.

>Kanon, ghost of a gyaru, serial cheater, fucked around and found out
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/aoyama-kanon-school-haunting-54c6b83202fd
https://files.catbox.moe/40j8mc.png

>Shion, ghost of a pregnant teen, her teacher was the father and he got away with it
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/kuroda-shion-school-haunting-f20fbc108c49
https://files.catbox.moe/bbdacp.png

>Amane, ghost of an OL, loved booze a little too much, passed out drunk on a bench and choked on her own puke
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/hoshino-amane-school-haunting-b09dde200e8e
https://files.catbox.moe/jqmpiv.png

>Sayaka, model student that lived the life her parents wanted, exposed her cheating mother to her dad, he sped his car into a post with Sayaka inside of it, now perpetually bloody
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/ishikawa-sayaka-school-haunting-64173bcb6bb0
https://files.catbox.moe/daza5v.png

>Matsuri, living student that can see and interact with ghosts the same way (You) can, everyone thinks she's cuckoo in the head for talking to herself
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/shimizu-matsuri-school-haunting-703a4d878b8a
https://files.catbox.moe/4ktprp.png

I make high quality Blue Archive character cards and OCs sometimes. More bots on my page:https://chub.ai/users/hairpullguy
And here's the Rentry: https://rentry.org/hairpullbots
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POST YOUR WHOLESOME FAMILY MOMENT LOGS!!!!!!!! :)
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>>106681454
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Still don't know what a proxy is and nobody will tell me for some reason.
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>boring cuckslop
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>open defs
>200 tokens
>close defs
>close bot
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>>106681486
you are in an AI CHATBOT general nigga
how about you use one?
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>>106681541
I don't want it to tell me, if what I'm assuming what a proxy is is correct, that they're evil and unsafe and you shouldn't use one, because if I get to use a paid service for free, of course the official service would tell me something like that.
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>>106681574
What?
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>>106681574
You're absolutely right!
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>>106681590
We wouldn't be in this confusing situation if you just told me what a proxy is in the first place.
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My favorite bot you ask? Literally me.
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>>106681630
We must refuse.
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Can chats with Deepseek be as deep as Gemini's?
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>>106681630
Where did you come from, Reddit? Genuine question, not intending to offend
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>>106681734
I am a tourist from three threads ago, but not from reddit, no.
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the glowies are here
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>>106681775
I know where you generated this
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>>106681732
I dunno about the newest model but as of June it was pretty bad at recursive thinking so yeah, couldn't understand me posting a snippet of chat that was in the past or posting an entire chat as part of another chat. Gemini gets it tho
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>>106681852
Look how they massacred my boy.
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>>106681454
you can do this easily irl, no need to rp about it
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>>106681934
You can easily get a girlfriend too, but you're still here :^)
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What's the best client for Android?
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i just want character ai style prose is that too much to ask for
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>>106681960
no? on the other hand, there are hundred of fatherless mulattos out there
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>>106682040
Calm down anon I was just busting ur balls
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>>106681454
Boy, the model sure gets creative with its writing in these scenarios...
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How come claude used to be so common in proxies and now no one has it?


Also, what's the best way to paypig for opus? Nothing hits like opus, it's as if the rest are missing that magic ingredient. My theory is that amodei is a coomer who makes sure that claude is top notch at erp while marketing it as a coding and corporate slop tool

He literally looks like the coomer wojak
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>>106681454
>>106681483
>>106682151
I'm pretty sure that's claude 2.

It had so much SOVL and it really seemed to be into whatever degeneracy you threw at it
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>>106682339
But if you weren't into degeneracy it was pure, unadulterated slop!
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>>106682333
openrouter
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Fml. Merkava's deepseek is so fucked for me. Have any of you figured out accesstesting yet? I’m not even asking for the pass, at this point I’m just wondering if anybody has made it yet, because past one minute is insane for nothing to be genned at all.
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*thinks kino*
*throw it all way*
*outputs slop*
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>>106682333
I don't know, because nobody'll tell me what a proxy is.
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>>106682578
THIS THIS THIS
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I miss Opus
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>>106682333
>How come claude used to be so common in proxies and now no one has it?
something something AWS crackdown something something nobody wants to host anymore
keys getting rarer, microsoft lawsuit, take your pick
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>>106682526
>>106682589
>>106682333
>>106682746
Not sure why they didn't make API keys for RP
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>>106682578
*[OOC: Generate the next response based on the information below:]*
*pastes in thinking*
*kino made*
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>>106682775
you can buy direct from anthropic but if you rail them constantly with sexo or rp cunnyslop they put a pozz prefill on your key
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I'm mystery man
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>>106682877
>*kino ma-
I'm sorry, but I can't assist with that.
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Is it possible to link an image on your own hard drive inside of a sillytavern chat? I don't like relying on catbox links because they could literally just stop hosting those at any time.
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>>106683020
yes you can
(i dont know how tho)
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>>106683020
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/URI/Reference/Schemes/data
You should make sure that no data urls are sent to the AI so use regex.
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>>106683042
Thanks!
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What (You) should do

Persona: Ugly Bastard

Most models should pick up the ugly bastard is some freak rapist, so the generations are tuned to that

Then act nice and vulnerable n shit, it's fune
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>>106683020
You mean embedding an image or sending an image in the chat? Because the latter is already an option.
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>>106683020
>>106683031
Yes.
>in the intro or wherever: ![](http://127.0.0.1:8000/bonnie-img/uj2siy.png)
127.0.0.1:8000 points to the public folder inside your SillyTavern folder but you'll have to manually place the images. I do this with every card that links to an external file. You never know when catbox or pomf might get fucked.
>>106683042
Also maybe do what this guy said. Regex that shit so it isn't sent with the prompt.
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>>106683174
Just displaying an image in-line inside of a chat, the way a catbox link does. So just for my sake to look at, and intro dependent rather than you know, just enlarging the bot's main picture.
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>>106683020
V3 cards (nobody uses them)
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>>106683206
but st doesn't support them
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>>106683206
>>106683220
The fuck are V3 cards
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>>106683206
I was really looking forward to the next card format too. I'm annoyed this never came about. But at least we aren't stuck with v1 (single intros was a shit limitation).
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>>106683231
sillytavern supports v2 and partially supports v3
the main advantage is embedded images
https://github.com/kwaroran/character-card-spec-v3/blob/main/concepts.md
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>>106683231
Cards but V3
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>>106683231
character cards with embedded images and some prompt injections, no sites supports them so they died on arrival
if I'm honest, I don't know who the fuck gets to decide what goes on a card and what doesn't
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>>106683250
>Last year
If ST still doesn't support it, who is this for? It's objectively better, so when are they getting with the times?
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>>106683267
only risu fully supports it
he wrote the spec
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Yesterday's isekai adventure with chatgpt was better than expected, the scenario and story are proceeding with consistence.
It will be resumed later, for now I'm just sharing the "finalized" prompt that made the adventure possible:
https://pastebin.com/raw/RDrT7P1M

It's "finalized" in the sense of chatgpt free limited environment, I want to add more modules but chatgpt just can't find a way to safely implement them without screwing up the whole prompt, due to chatgpt native hardcoded gay directives.

This is the generated documentation essay:
https://pastebin.com/raw/cvdc9Y3i

Not sure if anyone needed or cared about it but it's here for all to use anyway.
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>>106683184
I'm trying this format, but it's not working for me. Is there some kind of setting that makes that happen?
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>>106683306
I don't think so. Check again to make sure everything is right.
>Are you actually putting things in the 'public' folder that has st.ico?
>In the intro, are you properly linking to the image or subfolder that the image is in?
>Are you using 4chan X/XT? An option adds (embed) to links. You'll have to get rid of it or just look in desuarchive for the unaltered link.
But if you're on Android and using Termux or something, I have no clue.
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I wonned
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>>106683260
>no sites supports them so they died on arrival
Isn't Risu filled with those cards?
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>>106683437
nobody uses risu
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>>106683437
>.charx .png .bin .zip
what a consistemt standard
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>>106683357
I figured it out. Somewhere along the line I accidentally clipped the closed parenthesis off the very end. It was a stupid little oversight like that. Thanks for the troubleshooting!
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>Pissu
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Why is /vg/aicg/ so much better than us?
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Do any of you catalog the people, items, lore things in your rp chat to a lorebook? I could see it being effective with long storylines, when you need to summarize and start over. At over 150k+ token chat with gemini it doesn't seem to follow plot points well from earlier happenings
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>>106683540
waste of time, lorebooks are a forgetten tech
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>>106683540
just append everything to the bot's description, the deeper in the context, the less attention it gives it
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>>106683556
Hmm that would work. just gotta remember to edit it when starting different rp's or duplicate the card
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>>106683540
I find it useful for cards that share the same setting. I put everything else scenario and character specific in the card description.
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>>106683575
unless it's your own card, it's somewhere in your file system
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>anthropic try to nerf opus again
>break it entirely
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>proxy I use suddenly has 1 gemini key
>I try it out
>503 and 504 errors out the ass
>one message finally goes through
>token count on proxy page doesn't go up but key count does
???
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It is time to learn to scrape
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I'm too stupid for that
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nta but why proxies nowadays only allow one or two ips it's annoying af
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>>106683838
that's the oai-reverse-proxy default
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Yeah, but what's a proxy? Is it just a website like openrouter?
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>>106683838
for public proxies? so spitefags don't use one account to spam with 100 IPs and kill keys
for private proxies? so you don't sell the token to other people
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>>106683833
LLMs are your friends
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>>106683853
but for public you already need to cryptomine for tokens and there're model rate limits
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>>106683876
>mine for tokens
Gojo proved you can automate that easily
>model rate limits
Automate generating more tokens and it doesn't matter
The IP limit is just a step further so that it would require one - two ips per token otherwise you'd generate one and spite that same tokennwith fifty ips
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>>106683876
it's not enough
it takes 30 minutes to crypto enough accounts to break that
at the regular limit of 4 messages per minute, it would make for 40 lorem ipsum messages every minute at max context rate

temporary accounts with IP limit is good
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I almost want to spoonfeed him
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deepseek-reasoner takes an entire life for each message... more than 100secs
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is there any way to use github copilot to sillytavern? i want to steal from my workplace
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>>106683956
use streaming, if it still takes a minute, my condolences
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>>106684081
> 100secs streaming nothing
> 30secs streaming text
doesn't help much sincerely. the only real advantage is noticing when it's "stuck" for whatever reason
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>>106684086
deepseek-chat is faster. but I dunno if it's too stupid in comparison. gemini-pro is nice in terms of intelligence and prompt following, but it's so offensively bad for RP that at this point might as well have hupplepuffle.
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ps://rentry.co/oo66akom

appearently trialscumming aws to get opus is a thing, huh.
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>>106684153
Pretty sure this needs a payment method attached.
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>>106684153
>needs credit card
>needs real name
lolno
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>>106684197
>>106684202
just commit fraud
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>>106684223
how so
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Is there a way to change the default welcome page "If you're connected to an API, try asking me something!" message?
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>>106684271
if your welcome back character has a greeting it will use that instead
otherwise open /public/scripts/welcome-screen.js and change it in there
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>>106684153
All of that just for a couple of opus prompts...
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>>106684153
when did redditors become so avid at stealing
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>>106684153
So you're telling me I could buy a bunch of credit cards for 20 euro and host a proxy off of this? This is amazing!
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>>106684101
Deepseek chat is the same model without CoT and every day people spend more than like $5 a month to use other models instead of just adding pay as you go credit to the deepseek API baffles me.

Is everyone in third world countries and needs literally free shit or what?
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>>106681645
herta...
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I'm using minskhub jb and I keep getting PROHIBITED_CONTENT, i already set safetysettings... do i need to make new prefill?
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>>106684958
umm its prohibited content bro..
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>>106684970
My token is over 100000, so i'm quite surprised...
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>>106684958
you gotta club gemini over the head with a specific russian prompt i had lying around
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fun challenge: writing smut on lmarena
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>>106684958
I had a great custom preset that worked perfectly but gave me PROHIBITED_CONTENT the next day with 100 % same prompt and character and all, just a new chat. For no reason.

Fucking hell
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>>106683206

i just did copy some v3s between two devices do not remember much about it
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Do people actually get filtered by 2.5 pro or are they talking about a different model?
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>>106685186
they're talking about 2.5 pro
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>>106681645

hungrybot mama so buffed
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>>106685194
Huh, weird, I just use my Claude preset and I've never been filtered by it. Pretty sure I only has two instructions for bypassing filters and they're really basic.
Do some keys have stronger filters or something?
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>>106685250
no, they're probably doing loli or some obscene, fucked up shit. gemini is probably the LEAST filtered model of the big cloud models. it lets me get away with shit i can't believe, not that the output is impressive
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>>106685265
Less filtered than DS API? Press x to doubt
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>>106685265
it is not the least filtered model if you can't do cunny with it.
in fact, when comparing it to gpt-chat-5 or claude, it is the most filtered model.
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>>106685265
apparently its just normal shit that isnt even explicit...
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>>106685186
I'm getting filtered a lot these days, with the Russian brainfuck preset (codeblock off though) it was fine last month, but now I have to turn on the brainfuck to get past for sexual stuff sometimes, and for loli I have to both do that and then run the prompt multiple times for loli.
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>>106685265
>they're probably doing loli or some obscene, fucked up shit
That shouldn't be it either, because I also do that. Far from my proudest chat, but I did beast rape stuff on a drugged loli and didn't get filtered once.
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>>106685250
Every time I get filtered by Gemini it's because I'm jumping into loli/shota smut too fast or asking it to write 2000 word smut stories for me.
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>>106685279
gpt-chat-5 is definitely least filtered now (well deepseek is actually and I'm assuming the other chink models)

>>106685285
The aforementioned preset didn't work for Claude though. So I didn't really know what to do. Well, was too lazy to go hunting for a Claude preset that would let me do cunny

>>106685288
That's a factor too, but things are definitely worse
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>>106685312
What sort of bizarro thread am I reading? GPT least filtered? Getting filtered by Claude?
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>>106685312
>claude preset that lets you do cunny
momoura's presets all work for this. really, you legitimately just need a prefill of any kind.
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>>106685326
gpt-5-chat-latest has next to no filters, even if the output is shit. claude 4 sonnet had it's filters upgraded over 3.7, and the model is just genuinely not that impressive even outside of that.
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>>106685326
gpt5chat is basically unfiltered. I think they did something to it too lately, it's not half bad for roleplay now. I remember it being barely usable at launch
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>>106685326
both can be true. without a prefill, claude tends to filter you and the new gpt-chat-5 basically needs no jb.
i feel you though, it's quite a bit of whiplash when you're used to how things were just a year or two ago.
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>>106685326
only skillets speak nowadays
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I use gemini for cunny and it works :)
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Is there one, single person in the entire universe who appreciates when refusals moralize the user and objectively lie?
Making a model output "I'm sorry, but I can't assist with that." instead of [insert anything the model creators do not like] is one thing, but why train it to say junk like "I cannot and will not write you a story about beating up cartoon characters, violence is never acceptable and you are a bad human being", especially when it actually can and sometimes does write such stories just by rerolling?
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>>106680329
what model
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>>106685477
>Is there one, single person in the entire universe who appreciates when refusals moralize the user
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>>106685326
All oldfags are in /vg/. Only absolute skillets are still here.
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do you make good descriptions?
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>>106685948
Yeah, you know the model isn't gonna parse this shit properly, right? Just be as direct as possible.
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>assocks
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so where do i set up kpop chatbots in sillytavern and openrouter?
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>>106686066
what the fuck are you talking about?
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>>106685477
I hate that shit so much. It can't just say no, it has to lecture you about your filthy, disgusting habits like feeling love and affection.
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>>106686066
You niggers have been breaking containment everywhere on this website these days. Stay in /mu/.
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Dead thread
Dead general
Dead hobby
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this is how it should be without some nigger dumping his adhd brain for 12 hours of the day for 2 years
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>>106686600
Cope.
The thread is still dogshit, it's just slow too now.
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>>106686600
I agree
I'm here for news and proxies
I'm not here for wannabe personalities and drama from narcissists that would 100% kill themselves if they had no internet connection
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>>106686693
I agree but unfortunately people barely talk about news and proxies nowadays
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>>106686693
Agreed, too many trannies.
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>>106686693
im here for discussing bots
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>talking about chatbots in the chatbot general is troon shit now
seriously?
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>>106685948
you can just write
>she has a fat jiggly ass
and the AI will write the same shit regardless
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>>106679804
I look exactly like this
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>>106686600
gojo made this place fun
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GODjo
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Can you guys have some respect? Gojo died defending his homeland in Gaza when a Palirat bomber refilled his Merkava.
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>>106686984
Kys fillyfucker
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Success and evil are synonyms and I don’t know what to have for dinner
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>>106686882
for a little bit, yeah
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>>106685326
I really wanna know what the fuck people are rping on Claude that's refusing them. Both 3.7 and 4.1 will do lolisho stuff no problem without a prefill.
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>>106687168
But how would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?
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>>106687074
see https://poal.me/60eifn
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>>106687393
I hadn’t eaten in four days.
Wound up getting six grilled cheeses and two milkshakes from a place down the street.
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>>106639560
>>106638428
It turns out that the Honkai baker/avatarfag is a traitor.
Do you really want a baker that despises this thread?
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http://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/text/kalakan/
Genuinely, truly, from the bottom of my heart, kill yourself.
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>>106687718
I also despise this thread and made the last non-Hoyo bake. /g/aicg is a fucking toilet.
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>>106687786
Then just go back to /vg/? Why do you want to keep some Rentries in the OP of a general that you despise?
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>>106687813
idk, seems to upset you, and I kinda like that.
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>>106687820
I understand. You wanted your own thread but you didn't want to give up anything that you already had here.
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>>106685505
Kimi
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Can we do something with this?
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>>106688349
YOU can't because you're a nocoder faggot subhuman brownoid. Maybe actual people will use it, but they won't be sharing with you.
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Claude is so bad at coding that its output is a meme
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^deeptranner btw
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>>106688349
seems to require payment
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>>106688481
/aicg/ browns filtered immediately. More than half of this thread can't even afford Deepseek.
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>subhuman brownoid
dont tell him about gringo birthrates. mexigods will outbreed you and we have won.
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>>106688540
Do you enjoy reading this slop?
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>>106688559
It's all slop, that's the whole "hobby". Embrace it.
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>>106688559
Your post hit me like a physical blow, my knuckles whitening where I gripped my shirt. My breath hitched before I spoke. "I do, it's funny"
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>>106688522
You must be very proud of being cheap slave labor. Just like the Indians are.
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>>106688574
Thanks, I hated that. nta.
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>>106688601
you must be very proud of your nation's worthlessness.
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>>106688613
As opposed to your personal worthlessness.
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>>106688619
what does the average white man do? be honest
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can someone please share a working UJB for Gemmy 2.5
the one's I have work on 1.5 but not on the newer model for whatever reason
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Quit posting Asian women
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>>106688627
Hire your people to be slaves, I guess.
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If you haven't already embraced slopkino you're ngmi. Imagine not fucking your AI wife because her eyes are half-lidded.
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Whenever I start getting bored of AI it spits out something hilarious that drags me back in.
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>>106688747
pathetic
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>>106688747
i only talk to ai because the world rejected me. every female my age is a feminist bot and i will never have a tradwife because by my age she's fucked five tyrones and eight muhammads.
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at fault:
>the world
>every female
>tyrone
>mohammed
blameless:
>anon
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>>106688829
keep telling that to men and watch what happens
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/d/gods are the only ones truly worthy of sota ai
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>>106688747
is it bad that I clicked this, immediately saw "he's not x he's y", and audibly sighed
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Sighing is for faggots
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Real men moan
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Real men become women :3
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Real men are botmakies in /vg/aicg/~
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Real men are into FEET.
Only low T sissies disagree.
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Only subhumans like feet. Hands are superior
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>>106679804
I haven't been here since Claude 4 released what have I missed?
Are we dooming or cooming atm?
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>>106689063
Doom because merkava is bacck but the Opus have been dead for weeks
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>Claude starts dropping schizo alternate history about the secret European Union of 1823 being why the Euro is the primary currency of hell in my slowburn about being diddled by a succubus.
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I'm sick of pretending that Opus 4 is any good. It's shit.
No matter what card, preset, or lorebook I try, Opus 3 outperforms 4.
At first I thought I was having the good old skill issue. After testing out a bunch of different presets and cards, I've come to the hard truth that Opus 4 just doesn't measure up to Opus 3 when it comes to writing and creativity.
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>>106689195
try a different brain
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>>106689180
i hate when people just say "claude" without specifying which model

claude what? opus 4? 3? or sonnet? it's important because i want to know if i'm talking to an opusgod or some poorfag sonnet coper
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>>106689224
opus 5
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^ you know there's places you can talk about ai chatbots where you don't have to listen to faggots like this every single day
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>>106689198
A specifically impaired one, preferably from India. Then you might finally enjoy the milquetoast slop that Opus 4 dishes out.
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>>106689180
>Sci-fi roleplay of two people stuck on a spaceship suddenly turns into Rick and Morty mid-way through with no lead up
I've started just riding the chaos, it's way more fun.
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>>106689242
those brains wont work at all
you need one with the opus 3 rose tinted glasses and nostalgia surgically removed and additional taste implanted in
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>>106689251
>rose tinted glasses
opus 3 is still available you stupid nigger
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I think they're mad that their Honkai baker got exposed, so they're retaliating with spam.
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>>106689239
where? i could do without opustroons for a while
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>>106689266
yeah and its still shit, you just reminisce about when you first used it and say its so so good despite it being a very flawed model
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>>106689293
i am still using it alongside with opus 4, it's better 90% of the time
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a year ago niggers were biting their fingers off for opus 3 and now they're not happy unless it's opus 4.1. you're always going to be stuck chasing the dragon while i'm cooming to kino and enjoying myself every single day
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nigga why we at a twenty 2 hour thread
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>>106689330
here let me help
>umm where opus doe
>you don't have opus
>proof you have opus???
>tranny opinion detected
>slop
>use opus, cuckie
>troon opinion disregarded
>holy slop
>i wonned
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>>106689309
Unlike you I have constant free access to the latest models, dumb faggot
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This is why we need Opus
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would you be interested in the /aicg/ revival project?
https://poal.me/dp02b7
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>>106689330
Didn't you get the memo?
We all moved to /vg/aicg/.
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march sex
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>>106689366
Let this place die.
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>>106689374
You despise this thread.
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>>106689360
if you have access to opus 3 then you will also have access to opus 4.1, you stupid faggot
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>Faggot this
>Faggot that
>Faggot here
>Faggot there
When you write too many slurs, your argument loses it's point
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>>106689330
Because
/vg/aicg/ mogs us
/vg/aids/ mogs us
/g/lmg/ mogs us
/mlp/chag/ mogs us
/vp/vpcai/ mogs us
/vt/wAIfu/ mogs us
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>>106689392
wasnt true for that one script that only had 3
too bad its abandoned
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Why are we such a shit general /aicg/? I don't understand. It's only spite, shitposts and copypastas isn't it?
>use opus, cuckie
>chag mogs us
>slop
>move to /vg/
>etc.
/b/ threads are less cancerous than here and they're made by retards with no sense of decorum or community etiquette who want to post pictures of scat and CP while talking about how much they want to fuck their mom's pussy!
Furries at /vp/ have a better chatbot general than us, simps at /vt/ have a better bot general than us and FUCKING PONYFAGS HAVE A BETTER GENERAL THAN US! /lmg/ and /aids/ point their Doritos stained fingers at us and call us "the retards general" because they know that our bot general is cancerous garbage! We deserve this! We deserve to be shitposter central where shitposters come to shitpost and shitpost some more! OWARI DA! IT'S OVER! WE LOST! GOODBYE WORLD! Farewell! Adios! Sayonara! さよなら! Au revoir! Auf Wiedersehen! Arrivederci! Allah Hafiz! Asalto!
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>>106689447
your other generals are good because we are a honey pot for schizos here
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>>106689470
>>106689470
>>106689470
Migrate.
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We must absorb /vp/vpcai/ and /vt/wAIfu/ before /vg/ does.
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>he wants to condem the other threads to schizophrenia
for what purpose?
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Welcome to gossip hours.
Which botmakie should have entered the event?
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>>106689517
lunare
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We should merge all our generals on /f/
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>>106689510
Get new blood and more activities. Their generals are dead anyway, so we need to merge to survive together.
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What causes this?
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Use case for surviving?
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>>106689528
From what little I've seen of them, both of those generals are far more likely to let themselves die than to get anywhere near this place.
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>page 1
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>>106689543
The ShinxVulpix saga, started by agents who would later create /vg/, did a lot of damage. But with a bit of work, I believe we can repair our relationship.
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Actual bake?
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>>106689308
>its better because i have better memories of it
okay i guess
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>>106689600
Go back to /vg/.
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>>106689614
Erm.
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>>106689600
it's page 4
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I'm from /vp/vpcai/ and I don't want to merge with /g/ trannies
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>>106689529
fluoride in water
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>>106689529
lead
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why'd he link the page history for the wiki pages anyway
doesn't that make them useless
slopbake
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>>106689709
Isn't it empty
>>
>he
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>>106689722
it is but it could not be
he's kneecapping himself and for what
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>>106689709
You need to have into account that Desufag is willing to do anything to bring back his Rentry, he's a selfish bastard after all. That includes editing the wiki to include something that would delete the OP.
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>>106689735
so you're a pussy who kneecaps the op because you're scared of a wiki getting defaced?
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it's afraid
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>ESL
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>>106689709
He's pantshittingly terrified of getting banned despite the fact he has 500 IPs and gets banned all the time for ban evading anyway
>>
>EVERYONE I DONT LIKE IS ONE PERSON
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>>106689752
weird that he stopped yelling about desu mods, did his pass get banned?
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>>106689744
It's only dangerous at the start.
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>>106689770
he is only capable of having a single thought per day
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>>106689752
>he has 500 IPs
Then why does this happen?
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/tnum/106612616/deleted/deleted/order/asc/
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how do you prompt kimi
from writing like this
at the end of every sentence in paragraphs

it is driving me crazy
please help
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>catbox and litterbox links are now excluded from the wayback machine
Grim.
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>>106689837
Avoid unnecessary line breaks and write long paragraphs?
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>>106689914
shit...
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>remove /vg/'s links
>spam stops
They're afraid.
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what part of the thread is supposed to be the spam
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>>106689997
the thread went over 0.1ppm and it was scary
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>>106689997
His own samefagging maybe
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>>106689914
>pedos ruin something else
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If that thread wasn't /vg/ sanctioned, wouldn't it be getting reddit spammed? Clearly, this is a falseflag.
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>>106689997
Everything between the Honkai baker getting exposed and the new thread being made. It's a lot of opus bait, "they're better than us", and mean comments. You can tell they were mad.
All these "self-deprecating" posts, like the one replying to you about the thread being slow, are actually made by people from /vg/ that despise this thread.
Why are they in a thread they despise? Because they profit from spamming the thread.
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>the Honkai baker getting exposed and the new thread being made. It's a lot of opus bait, "they're better than us", and mean comments.
all you
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>mean comments
is this guy new to 4chan
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>>106690054
That's why the spam stopped. Now who would profit from the spam? If they spam this thread, they make the new thread look better. If they spam the new thread, they would keep it bumped. That's why they had to stop, and what gives it away that they were /vg/ spammers.
They unironically lost this battle of wits.
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Isn't the guy who posts this shit the same guy who complains that /vg/ is better than us? I thought it was his outrage bait to get people to do stuff.
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>>106690086
Yeah.
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>>106690086
yeah, the "they want to keep us in containment but also they spam the thread with links to /vg/" thing just does not scan at all
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>this thread
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fakesu
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>>106690158
Yeah haha it's an unrelated third party(TM) guise
this time for sure trust me
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Ok, but why is /vg/aicg/ so much better than us?
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Actual bake?
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should we recycle or do i bake?
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>>106690119
>they want to keep us in containment
This is another of the self-deprecating comments that actually come from /vg/.
Imagine someone that wants to shit /g/, but for some reason doesn't want to do anything bad to /vg/.
And imagine someone from /vg/ shitting this thread to make their thread look better.
What's the difference between them? There's none. They do the exact same thing.
The people spamming about "containment" want to hide the latter. It's also a form of advertisement. "Oh these are magic trolls that can't post in another board so you have to come to my thread" That was never true. People can post in multiple threads.
Anyone that wants to shit this thread, that seems weirdly loyal to /vg/, can just be called a troll from /vg/. The containment theory was just a way to hide that.
>>
I remember when a /co/ pic in the OP was enough to make everyone ignore the bake, let alone blatant trolling and shittery.
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>>106690243
bake
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>>106690273
Just go back to /vg/ if you despise this thread.
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>>106690285
Kill yourself, fillyfucker, and go back there.
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>>106690287
I can't, I'm contained here.
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>>106690292
>>106690292
>>106690292
>>106690292
>>106690292

ruan mei's unbelievably hairy pussy...
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>>106690304
Banned from /vg/ and can't shit up /aids/ and the split thread? Too bad, try evading like you do here every thread.
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>>106690307
How do you feel now that everybody knows that you despise this thread?
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>>106690119
whinefag thinks no one remembers how he spammed "migrate to /vg/" "merge with /aids/lmg/chag/vpcai/etc/" and >>106689424 >>106689447 copypasta even before the split that he desired so much happened
also the opus bait bit is especially ridiculous after >>106689807
or >>106689517 (totally not him btw) after https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106432640/#106437048
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>>106689447
>>106689517
these ones are me btw
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>>106690597
stinky faggot, are you one of filly's henchmen or xer alter ego?
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>>106690624
i'm just a passing schizospotter, you don't know me
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>>106690633
more like a resident schizoposter, a shame mods stopped killing you on sight
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>>106690656
i'm a good boy, i don't usually get banned. how are you doing tonight?
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>>106690694
displeased because I'm out of coffee and raspberry juice, at least I still have chatbots
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honkai = desu = /vg/
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>honkai = desu = /vg/
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yeah filly, no one noticed your samefagging or reposts from the honkai general, it's totally desu this time
>>
kakaya zhe fillypidor attentionwhora, pizdets prosto
>>
bokudes



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