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>>106690961I've just noticed that there is a slight issue with my reversal of the num_lock indicator on the keychron v6 max. While normally it works as intended, when i turn the pc off, the num_lock lights up and chat be disabled normally (for now I just turned of the keyboard by switch to cable). I must have added the negation either in some place too many, or one place too much. I wish the code were better documented.
>>106691039>or one place too muchI meant too little. I need sleep. I'll look into it more tomorrow.
WIP
just bought the EC version of this. what am I in for
Shill me a complete keyboard for less than 200 american shekels
I think I'm gonna buy one of these: https://cannonkeys.com/products/photon-internationalPicrel are the keycap sets I own that I'm not using. Which color should I get and with which keycaps?
>>106691718Teal with the CRP set might look pretty good.
>>106692161I'd be really tempted to gamble on these being a match: https://milktooth.com/products/hammerworks-r1-blue-accent
>>106692171(I suspect they're actually a bit too much lighter than the case)
>>106692171Won't be an exact match, but might still work regardless.
>>106692182if only it were as simple as comparing product images... someday we will get all this lighting standardized so you can just throw a couple pictures into an image editor and make informed decisions
>>106692219>someday we will get all this lighting standardizedDoubt it, there are just far too many variables.
I've put up enough monitors in my basement that I'm considering turning my Heavy9 into a bluetooth keyboard and figuring out a way to tab through devices with it, like the newer HHKB's can do. My only problem is, will bluetooth be kill due to the thick aluminum frame? Even if I can get it on just one device It'll make it convenient just to spin around in this stupid Eames meme chair I bought to fill the empty feeling in my core that I keep throwing money at.
>>106692225me when anons tell me universal standardized product lighting is unrealistic:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RL-xEmriXeIme when universal standardized product lighting is made reality:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAxT98cvMKM
>>106692326>My only problem is, will bluetooth be kill due to the thick aluminum frame?I think that's the conventional wisdom yes, but I haven't tried this sort of thing
>>106691039Well shit. Based on https://www.reddit.com/r/Keychron/comments/1it4o4p/how_to_invert_keychron_q0_max_num_lock_indicator/andhttps://www.reddit.com/r/olkb/comments/1hztupv/how_to_invert_num_lock_indicator/I had added negation in>if (!host_keyboard_led_state().num_lock)in 2 lines both in the indicator.c in wireless and bluetooth folders, but that caused the behaviour described before on shutdown.Now I tried removing the negation from the portion about >LED_DRIVER_ALLOW_SHUTDOWN(void) But that instead caused the weirdest behaviour where instead of flipping the logic, it made it so that the numlock light was off all the time, unless I also had the caps lock on.Anyone got any ideas? The base code is from (the indicator logic is in common):https://github.com/Keychron/qmk_firmware/tree/wireless_playground/keyboards/keychronAlso, any ideas how to quiet the spacebar?
>>106693694spacebar stabilizer noise elimination is its own whole field of study, and certainly my idea of hell.The worst part: Keychron's plate cutouts are too small for most stabilizers, so if you decide to replace the stabs the new ones might not fit.t. spent hours whittling the stab holes of my keychron with a sharp knife to get my cherry clip-ins to fitas for the code shit it sounds like the simplest thing would be to add some logic to the line that checks if numlock is off to also check that the board is on/connected/whatever. So I'd be looking to see if there's some global variable that keeps track of that state
Replaced a switch under A few monts ago. Now switch under D types twice.God, I hate gayshiteron so much, you won't believe. Never ever buy this chinese garbage!
>>106694278Try increasing your debounce time. Your board does support QMK, right?
>>106694298Yes, but where can I change it?
>>106694320You'd put a line like this in your config.h. The number would be the time in ms. If it's not already defined then start at 5 and increase it a couple ms at a time until the chatter stops. #define DEBOUNCE 10
#define DEBOUNCE 10
>>106694278Check how the switch is seated if its hotswap or reflow the switches solder joints if its not.
>>106694362I use easyAVR to change my layouts. I don't even have this config.h file.
>>106694400Time to read the QMK docs and learn how to compile the firmware for your board yourself.https://docs.qmk.fm/
>>106694411Kek, it is faster to re-solder this fucking switch that do all these lunix rituals.
>>106694430It's a bit of a pain in the ass at first, but once you have shit set up it's easy.
>>106694447I remember I recovered a boot-loader on my keyboard using qmk.sys 5 years ago because nothing else didn't work. But I don't want not repeat this experience.
>>106694562QMK has changed a lot over the past 5 years bro. QMK MSYS makes the command line bullshit fairly easy.
>>106694586Seems my keyboard is too old for this shit and doesn't have this option. I can't change debounce time though I can change layouts, LED and other shit.
>>106692326>will bluetooth be kill due to the thick aluminum frameYes, aluminum laptops and phones usually have plastic pieces near wireless antennae
>>106693853>t. spent hours whittling the stab holes of my keychron with a sharp knife to get my cherry clip-ins to fitlmfao I did the same shit on my V6 Max except with a small rasp.Never fucking again.
>>106691606https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/products/evoworks-evo80-polypropylene-plate-keyboard
>>106696187my brother...
One of my boards will double and triple type but only when my pc is slow (usually due to loading AI models). I wish I knew what boneheaded firmware design choice could cause that
>>106691718Smoke with the black on black would be pretty safe. But if you have a bit of that oldtroon gamer spirit it's hard to pass up on teal or coral. BoB would also look ok on either of those.
Has anyone who uses 65%, 60%, etc. solved the Esc/tilde problem? I can't switch to HHKB backspace because I use larger boards a lot (and the 65% I'm looking at doesn't have split bs support anyway). Putting Esc on a fn layer seems like it would be a headache, but on the other hand it's also frustrating to press esc by accident when it's so close to the tab and 1 keys, and I like the idea of keeping the basic layout identical to what it would be on a full-size so I'm not having to relearn how to input tilde.I'm trying to plan out layouts for a 65% with the keycaps I have, which is never fun when you're an R3 control user
>>106691606you could get this hall effect board for 50 buckshttps://clickclack.io/collections/in-stock-keyboards-smart-collection/products/click-clack-x-kochi-hummingbird68-magnetic-switch-mechanical-keyboard-kit
>>106699177split backspace really is the way. the vast majority of custom boards have split backspace at least as a solder option, even on bigger boards like TKLs. you could do what 40% boards do with split space for fn, or space with fn on hold is also an option but I still say split backspace is way better>but on the other hand it's also frustrating to press esc by accident when it's so close to the tab and 1 keyshow often do you find yourself accidentally hitting tilde? you don’t because that’s not even a thing>and I like the idea of keeping the basic layout identical to what it would be on a full-size so I'm not having to relearn how to input tildeI understand your reasoning, and it’s why I refuse to use stuff like split columnar boards or layouts like dvorak/colemak but switching between a standard board and an hhkb is a minimal change
>>106699177>>106700270also, if it’s a 65% without a split backspace you could just put tilde to the right of backspace and give up a nav key
Just finished.
>>106700270>split backspace really is the way.I've done split backspace before. Every time I switched to one of my full-size or 96% boards I felt like a fucking retard who couldn't type, and then when I switched back I felt like a retard again. It takes too long to adapt. I can't do it. I ended up completely shelving the board until I eventually rebuilt it with normal backspace.I have a few keyboards already. I don't really need another one, I just want another one. If I were committing full-time to one board, I could do anything I wanted. But if it's just one board in the rotation it has to be consistent with the others.>the vast majority of custom boards have split backspaceSure, but not the particular $100 zmk keyboard by ai03 that I actually want to buy
>>106691508These a meme or are they really good for hand injuries?Planning on getting a glove80
>>106701085I can't really say if it'll help your hand injury, but I can say it's a lot more comfortable to type on than any other board in my experience. I'd tell anyone that they should have the rest of their setup adjusted properly to allow for proper typing technique first before considering buying a fancy ergo board.
>>106700874>please kill me the keyboard
>>106692326There are adhesive antennas you can just glue onto the bluetooth chip, and clip it so it sticks out like a mm under the USB socket.
Why hasn't anybody made a keyboard out of any of the ultra-expensive plastics used in aerospace/etc.? Even if you can't get anywhere near MoQ to justify making those molds you could still machine it, no?
>>106701824Machining PEEK is a huge pain in the ass, at least that's what I hear from people who actually do it. It's an expensive material to begin with and with machining it being a PITA, that makes it even more expensive. For a keyboard PEEK is completely unnecessary overkill. You'd be spending at least as much, if not more, than if you wanted a CNC alu case.
>>106701840>You'd be spending at least as much, if not more, than if you wanted a CNC alu case.Definitely. But it's exotic. Someone would buy it just to brag about it at meetups.As I said, "ultra-expensive". I'm not pretending there aren't very good reasons not to do this in general. But there are lots of keyboards that are very bad ideas and cost $1000+ which still get made, because that's Who We Are as a CommunityThe thing is, I think a decently hefty plastic board with a nice surface texture that doesn't rub to a shine, that won't discolor and become brittle in a decade, would actually be a top-tier product, in some ways superior to aluminum boards. It would be someone's "endgame". Also, plastic isn't cold to the touch. Never liked that about aluminum.
>>106701883There are cheaper & more suitable plastics you could use if you just want something robust. The material properties that make PEEK desirable in certain applications are ones that would go completely unused as a keyboard case.
>>106701920>a: "Here's my plan: a keyboard that people can dream about.">b: "People don't need dreams. They need PCBs, switches, keycaps.">a: "The need is to build something that lives on after a group buy cycle, anon. Which is why Megaboard will be machined entirely out of PEEK, which is imperishable.">c: "PEEK is unrealistic. Aluminum, aluminum, aluminum and ABS, ABS, ABS is realistic."
>>106702013I had polycarbonate, or if you really want to be fancy carbon fiber nylon as alternatives in mind. Both are already overkill but not as expensive as PEEK.
>>106701920People are waiting over a year for titanium norbauer keyboards over 7k USD. If you want any of his old stuff, it's going for thousands already. Its art.
>>106702338That's what I'd call veblen goods. They're not 20x more majestically finished than any other CNC'd metal rectangle. No, I don't care about the fancy fucking stabilizers either, they're not worth several thousand.
>>106702338The more I think about it, the more I dislike Norbauer counter-signaling. The Seneca isn't my cup of tea but you must respect the balls it took to ignore all the "realistic" ankle-biters and make something like that.I can't think of anything bad to say about the man, other than that he's a bald faggot who likes penis>>106702356I really must refer you to >>106692327 >>106702013
>>106702406He's not some pioneer, he's just some asshole that managed to spin a tale to catch suckers willing to pay 10x more for something that doesn't cost nearly 10x more to make. Many such cases.
>>106702486>he's just some assholeAnd what, exactly, do you think YOU are?
>>106702492Some asshole who is not trying to sell you a $7000 keyboard based on marketing bullshit.
>>106702498You're some asshole trying to make me listen to his stupid ankle-biting, which is so much worse. I don't care about your massive chip on your shoulder against everyone who does anything interesting, or your feeling of superiority that you apparently earned by doing nothing—better than doing something bad, like making and selling an item for profit!
>>106702541I'm saying $7000 is bullshit for a keyboard, no matter what crap he makes up to justify that cost so that suckers will eat it up. It's the same shtick as rama or keycult, but even more expensive. He's making a metal rectangle, which is boring as shit. No, some pin lever mechanism for a stabilizer doesn't magically make it interesting or worth several thousand dollars. I make bespoke, specialty items that are actually worth multiple thousand dollars. No, I will not tell you what it is.
>>106702640>No, some pin lever mechanism for a stabilizer doesn't magically make it interesting65k views on his talk about the stabilizer problem at Keycon. 533k views on Adam Savage's video about it. I'd call that interesting. Should I care that you don't think it is? Why do we need to listen to every Tom Dick and Harry bloviate about what he personally thinks is "worth it", constantly, in every thread, a nonstop buzzing in the ears...? Where do these price-moralists come from? How can we get rid of them?
>>106702709>muh viewslol, lmao. Fuck off, shill.
>>106691718black case, CRP keycaps
>>106702709>533k views on Adam Savage's video about itthose are normalfags looking at a case study of how deranged some gay nerd is for burning over 100k just to make a silent stabilizer that he could have just use 60 cents worth of lube to fixwouldn't mind trying the $5 aliexpress version of his design that does the exact same thing though
>>106701824>it's already the correct color
>>106702709What's it like being so utterly divorced from reality that you're completely delusional about price? I could send those part specs to china and have them make me all the parts for his crappy keyboard in whatever stupid material I wanted for 2 grand. I'm not going to, because it's a waste of money for something that I don't consider to be even the slightest issue, and the rest of the board is junk, but this guy is charging 3k minimum for something you could have custom, bespoke made, for cheaper. I could understand him charging 700 bucks for his magical keyboard after factoring in R&D and first world labor costs, I think it's fucking laughable to charge 3k for it, but hey, he has to make back all the money he wasted hiring other people to solve his issue for him, right?
>>106703893>I'm not going to do it, but I totally couldPut up or shut up, retard.
>>106703893>>106702640>bespokeyou sound like you ask for tips on how to be less ugly
>>106702847My inner millennial manchild wants to go full MadCatz with the red one. None of my keyboards are fun like that
Are there any mechanical keyboards out there that come with a rubber wrap of some kind so I can type while eating?
