https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/sep/25/apple-calls-for-changes-to-anti-monopoly-laws-and-says-it-may-stop-shipping-to-the-eu
>>106694196Based, no itoddlers in my EVROPA
>>106694196>be american>believe competition and free market is king>demand monopolies for your companies everywhere>overthrow governments who you don't likenobody's buying this shit any more. dogshit corpos like this exiting the EU would be a HUGE net positive. honestly want to transition away from everything US at this point. evil nation who trawl everything and push clown idelogies.
A huge step backwards for the European gay community.
>>106694196Europe and the North America are apples largest regional markets for the iphone. As if they'd pull out and lose 30% of their sales.These soulless corporations get scared shitless over a 0.1% loss in sales, as if lawmakers would fall for their bluff.
>>106694196Ughm... What exactly will Europeans lose if Apple leaves their market?
>>106694196Based Apple.EU communists should stop interfering in private business and allow everyone to compete freely. Free markets should never be infringed upon.
>>106694223Buddy your government believes that driving an ugly car makes the weather better
>>106694196Good.
>>106694232This. Nothing will ever happen.
>>106694196Oh no.
>>106694265climate change is a bit of a scam, but reducing dependenacy on fossil fuels is simply a smart move so we don't have to get dragged into fake and gay wars in iraq, etc.
>>106694258your idea of a free market is blackrock crushing the free market.health of free markets should be measured by the level of competition.
>>106694314unregulated free markets always tend towards monopoly.
>>106694196i don't mind if apple leaves
just call their bluffthey said the same thing about usb-c
>>106694326Always liked the idea of 'winners' of the free market receiving some type of title like being a Lord or some shit, then having the company broken up.Winning the markets should be a prerequisite for entry to politics and 'higher society'.
>>106694352>Always liked the idea of 'winners' of the free market receiving some type of title like being a Lord or some shit, then having the company broken up.kek, like seasons in online multiplayerreset the market ladder!!1
>>106694358unironically this. if online gayming has solved a problem in a sandbox, we should probably take note.
>>106694196Kek, EU has the same market size as NA.
>>106694314The S&P 500 just set a new record high a few days ago. What the hell are you talking about here, dumb europoor? The American free market has 100 times more competition than your communist EU shithole.
>>106694372>Since the financial crisis of 2008, the stock market has seen a remarkable migration of investor money away from active management and toward passive, or index, funds. As a result, the “Big Three” asset managers—BlackRock, Vanguard and State Street—have swiftly ballooned into behemoths. Taken together, they constitute the largest shareholder in more than 40% of publicly traded U.S. firms, and 88 percent of the S&P 500. muh freeeeeddoommmmpublic companies are wealth extraction mechanisms who don't have your - or the free market's - interests at heart.
>>106694196Apple loses: a developed market of 450.4 million people, more potential new customers than in the United States where they are already the main playerEuropeans lose: nothing of value, because most of us aren't deep enough in their shitty ecosystem to care; not even basic things like iMessage, because we all use third-party messaging appsBasically, they're bluffing. The Brussels effect is real and the European Union does have power of these shitbags, which is what they dislike. If they want to sell to Europeans, they have to respect European consumer protection laws. Otherwise, fuck off and godspeed.
>>106694387meanwhile in China:>Google would never dare to pull out of China, we can just hack them>China hacks Google>Google pulls out
They pulled the same trick with Australia quite a few years back because government wanted to properly tax them. Government ended up caving. Most likely because the politicians were able to be blackmailed through content on their phones.
>>106694413most likely they just got paid off
>>106694386Do you even have a stock market, europoors, or do your communist rulers just take 80% of your money and waste it on the "green economy" and welfare, so you have nothing left to buy your stocks with? Your economy is collapsing, all the young, industrious, and ambitious europoors are migrating to America right now. You're being robbed of your future and prosperity. And when Apple leaves your market, the only phones you'll be able to buy will be chinese backdoored junk that will break within a month. The only PCs and laptops you'll find instead of brand-new Macs and MacBooks will be overpriced, secondhand junk from 10+ years ago. But keep defending and voting for commies if you like them so much, and don't complain when you have to stand in line for bread and other necessities like the Soviets did.
>>106694372>The S&P 500 just set a new record high a few days ago. What the hell are you talking about here, dumb europoor?s&p 500 is denominated in u.s. dollar which isn't doing well. if you look at the s&p 500 in euros, it isn't hitting any highs.
>>106694196>Apple threatens to lose 20%+ of its stock valuation and earnings over niche alternative stores only available in a single region, that still bring money to themThis makes no sense. They're just trying to summon orange daddy>delayed featuresApple are the ones deciding to delay their meme AI features. Not the EU.
>>1066944636/10 made me read
>>106694413Didn't Indonesia banned iPhones too?Something about not making a factory there so they're not allowed to sell.
>>106694250>Ughm... What exactly will Europeans lose if Apple leaves their market?The only decent phone for white people that aren't poor?>>1066943873rd party messaging apps are fine, but FaceTime is the only one with decent video quality.
>>106694258Copyright, patents and trademarks make the market inherently unfree. The whole point of those regulations is to bloat corporations while keeping corporations dependent on governments that operate on the scale at which those regulations are enforced, so they are either obligated to meddle for the benefit of the individual or abolish IP law for the benefit of the individual.
>>106694371Cope. Fucking Mississippi has higher GDP and higher wages per capita than 99% of Europe.
>>106694557Indonesia won.https://www.macrumors.com/2025/02/25/apple-indonesia-deal-end-iphone-16-ban/
>>106694436Or that yeah.
>>106694223>honestly want to transitionwe know anon
>>106694567Software engineer wages are heavily skewed in favour of US compared to every single other country in the world.Compare burger flipper wages. Although that probably doesn't matter much either because cost of living in a flyover state is so much cheaper than any western european country.
>>106694265Electric cars are more about reducing dependency in oil producing countries like Russia or the Saudis. It's a political thing, but they can't say it out loud because it would cause a political incident. It does make us more dependent on China because of the rare earths for magnets, but they are on the other side of the world so i guess it's the lesser of 2 evil. I'd also pick China over Russia any day. On the environmental side electric cars do make less noise and reduce smog in big cities. And they might be more environmentally friendly as long as the power grid uses nuclear and renewables. So they are not entirely bullshit.
>>106694196I hope they do
>>106694589imagine having trannies on the mind in everything you read. this is what your public corporations provide you. freeeedoooommm.>>106694567>gdp per capitao lawd. >get paid for gay porn>spend money on gay porn>get paid to do more gay porn>spend money on gay porn>gdp goes brrrrrrrrrrrr
>>106694196kek, theyre so desperate for their monopoly practice of forcing their faggy app store through everyones throat. go ahead and pull your jeet products from the biggest consumer market on the planet and see how that works out
>>106694223Yea good luck with that. Until your govs stop snuffing out your tech sector in it's sleep. Quality devs are going to pull an indian and run for H1B/oversea work.
>>106694265And you Americans driven a car that kills you. See why laws are important at stopping corporate greed.
>>106694387the EU parliament is like 90% iPhones and you bet they don't want to surrender themApple is in a good position
>>106694567also compare living cost like rent.
>>106694596california has a minimum wage of $20/h for fast food employees. so that will also be massively skewed in california's favor.
>>106694463>chinese backdooredThe only alternative is a backdoor from the United States of Israel. Two sides of the same coin.>commiesLmfao. As if you guys didn't use "communism" to describe anything that doesn't directly benefit wealthy pedophile elites or big tech.
>>106694609who said anything about trannies? did you have something on your mind you wanted to share with us?>see mention of gdp>immediately think about gay pornHrmmm
>>106694215Fippy Bippy, iToddlers will be deported
yeah its pretty clear they want to keep their ridiculous monopoly money
>>106694633>gdp >gay pornuh how is girls do porn gay?
>>106694657the people who were behind it are prisongay now
>>106694371This.
>>106694196>second biggest marketyeah no, they won't do shit
>>106694686apple reports their regions weirdly.it's not clear how the dices would fall if you split out US and EU.
>>106694712EMEA looks like huge cope to big up growth in some sectors and hide poor results in others.
>>106694739its just very generalist. EMEA includes africa and the middle east. Americas is, as the name suggests, both north, south and middle america
>>106694766Apple's EMEA includes India tho but there's no I in EMEA.
>>106694773actual 10-k is even weirder:>The Company manages its business primarily on a geographic basis. The Company’s reportable segments consist of the Americas, Europe, Greater China, Japan and Rest of Asia Pacific.>Americas includes both North and South America.>Europe includes European countries, as well as India, the Middle East and Africa.>Greater China includes China mainland, Hong Kong and Taiwan.>Rest of Asia Pacific includes Australia and those Asian countries not included in the Company’s other reportable segments.
>>106694773>>106694823Should be EMIA then
>>106694307It is completely irrelevant whether or not Climate Change is "real", because all of the goals against CC are also good goals in general.For example, coal plants reduce air quality. Mass producing plastic creates more and more landfills. Over consumption, especially of foreign products, reduces purchasing power for things that actually matter. Making AI more efficient so that datacenters use less water will also one day make it possible to run on consumer hardware. Everyone wins
>>106694927>also one day make it possible to run on consumer hardwareThat will never happen, letting plebs have that amount of power is never an option.Look how expensive GPUs are right now, it's only going to get worse from here.
>>106694823how can appl even get away with threatening to quit the eu while not disclosing to shareholder's how much money is on the table.>The Company has also implemented changes to iOS, iPadOS, the App Store and Safari in the EU as it seeks to comply with the DMA, including new business terms and alternative fee structures for iOS and iPadOS apps, alternative methods of distribution for iOS and iPadOS apps, alternative payment processing for apps across the Company’s operating systems, and additional tools and application programming interfaces (“APIs”) for developers. The Company has also continued to make changes to its compliance plan in response to feedback and engagement with the Commission. Although the Company’s compliance plan is intended to address the DMA’s obligations, it has been challenged by the Commission and may be challenged further by private litigants. The DMA provides for significant fines and penalties for noncompliance, and other jurisdictions may seek to require the Company to make changes to its business. While the changes introduced by the Company in the EU are intended to reduce new privacy and security risks that the DMA poses to EU users, many risks will remain.
>EU: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T TRANSLATE CALLS BECAUSE...LE BRIVACY!!1 don't want your conversations leaked to other companies>also EU: why OF COUSE we will force everyone to allow interoperability with Facebook messenger, so most of your messages will end up on Facebook's servers, even if you don't use Facebook!
>>106694196>>106694258>>106694275>>106694623Even if all of the EU was 95 % Apple marketshare, they have a fiduciary responsibility towards their shareholders and by law they have to act in their best interests.Pulling out of one of the biggest markets in the world that is very similar to the United States and most importantly friendly towards that country, would go against them so this would never fly even in a important shareholders meeting.>>106694387Also this.
>>106694196
>>106694196I fully support all removal of Apple products from our markets as a European.
>>106694196Would be great, but doesn't seem realistic for them.
>>106694927>Making AI more efficient so that datacenters use less water will also one day make it possible to run on consumer hardware. Everyone winsthat's not a goal as serving from a datacenter that can cache and batch requests will ALWAYS be far more efficient than timmy using his 4x P40 abomination at home
>>106694567Well America has 50% more spending money than Europe. Europe has just poor due to their economic governance
>>106694196>chyna: jump, gweilo, and spy on my citizens for me>apple: arf arf gib belly rubs I’ve been a good boy>eu: stop with the monopolistic bullshit>apple: OMG I AM BEING OPPRESSED AAAAAA ORANGE MAN SAVE MEDisingenuous cunts, one and alldon’t let the door hit you
>>106695168>just delegate everything to publicly owned jewcorpswhy think (compute)?
>>106694953Wait for China to enter the market.
>>106694196lol ok bye
>>106695215i mean, i hate it, but if we're going with usual eco green bs than that's the angle they can use to fuck us over
>>106694627desu you can easily lower your living cost and pocket more, no such choice in europooria.
Based EU. Fuck billionaire leeches.
>>106694265>COVID>people forced to stop driving like caged cucks going to their wage slave job>no more low altitude smog for weeks>cars come back>barely see the biggest nearby city skyline anymorefuck off. I remember it now. You can't psyop me that even 4cyc, cats, egrs, bullshit copes can ever be as clean. electric cars aren't magic, but if everyone is forced to wage cage in them, maybe my local area won't be smoggy garbage. chinks might have some problems, but I won't. KYS car cuck.
>>106694372>S&P 500>big lumbering beast companies>100 times more competitionI can't even tell if this poster is self aware.
>>106694601>more environmentally friendly as long as the power grid uses nuclear and renewablesMost renewable energy usually involves destroying the environment and killing countless animals during production, plus, wind turbines and solar panels can't be recycled, so they just throw them at massive open air dumps that they need to destroy the environment even more.Dams are usually the best in class in power generation, but you need to basically obliterate kilometers of river banks and land to have enough space to store the water needed to run.And nuclear is the overall better option because it takes almost no space and can produce a gorillion watts if needed, the main issue is the nuclear waste that will outlive most countries in the world, plus nuclear rocks are even more scarce than petroleum.
>>106694196Please do it
>>106695241Russia, EU?
>>106694413i am curious surely politicans creaming their pants for diddly vids is not enough for blackmail
>>106695297Petroleum isn’t at all scarce and m-much solar panels and wind power a-are dirty, ahkshually is retarded oil lobby talking pointFigure out batteries then the rest of the world can shit off from my comfy commie shithole in EUland, y’all fucking retarded barbarians anyway
>>106695303In my dreams anon... in my dreams.... No more wars in Europe, only fraternity, democracy and eternal peace.
>>106694196Don't threaten me with a good time
>>106695321>I'm a fucking celsius room temperature retard>So I'll proceed to misunderstand the point the other anon is making and blame big oil for itThe absolute state, are these the brightest minds of the american public schooling system?The point I'm making you dumb troglodite is that no power production method is clean, and they all have huge drawbacks no one wants to speak about, if those EU politicians were so bright and smart and wanted clean energy so much, they would have ditched gas and petrol electricity, yet they all closed all nuclear to be the bitches of the nearest gas and petroleum producers.
>>106695345You think you’re smart but you’re actually tarded there are no drawbacks for Europe to use solar panels built in china and polluting chinaNuclear is pointlessly expensive the moment you figure out batteries, only a vestigial capacity should be kept for knowledge retention for nuclear weapons production
>>106695221Sanctions
>using your monopoly to pressure governments to change their monopoly laws
>>106695431sanctions need to have enough nations behind them, and with US pissing away decades of goodwill in a matter of months nobody's really interested in paying a premium just so US companies can continue to make money
>>106694223>be europe>produce nothing>overstep everywhere>no one speaks arabic so no one caresJust the ramblings of small brown men
>>106694196Apple getting cocky now that they realized zoomers will burn a country down if the government gets in the way of their goycattle slop
>>106694196Make sure you don't pass Chat Control
>>106695516nobody really cares about apple in yurop. they make decent hardware but that's about it, there are third rate football clubs in the ass end of poland with more die-hard fans than apple has in the entirety of eu
>>106695516iphone is not the best selling phone in the EU, samsung is
>>106695573sansung runs android and google has the same restrictions than apple doesnot sure why but theyve been pretty chill about it while fapple is constantly screeching like somebody flayed them alive, pretty embarrassing desut. applefag
No idea why anyone would buy an iPhone in the current year. I get that it was really innovative. over a decade ago, but man, this crap has really fallen behind.The last iPhone doesn't even have 4000mHa battery.
>>106694223>overthrow governments who you don't likeAre Europeans no longer taught history beyond 200 years ago? Lmao France to this day still tries to overthrow governments in Africa that they've been losing control of.
>>106695241Liechtenstein?
>>106695624>No idea why anyone would buy an iPhone in the current year.it's not truly great at anything but it's good at everything. Adnroids are all over the place - good camera but shit video, good video but bizarre colors, good both but shit build quality, seemingly everything is fine but 2 years of OS support, ...I'd even argue that the base model isn't even overpriced, now that it's 120hz and 256gb baseline - funnily enough there's pelnty of android phones like pixel which are more expensive than base iphones for the specs you getfapple is also way less obnoxious about advertising and on privacy in general. they're by no means saints, but when you compete with google and samshit and xiaomi... well
>>106695627nobody on the planet cares about africa
>>106694358>>106694365in gaming what are the benefits of a reset?
is europe even a real country? imagine getting bullied by John Macintosh
>>106695723>in gaming what are the benefits of a reset?hobo phase is fun when everybody goes through itmore interest (competition? kek) when there aren't super-heavyweights that have ossified at the top and cannot really be unseated
>>106694196nothing of value will be lost.
>>106694258>doing everything in their power (illegal shit too) to maintain monopoly >competenigger, are you retarded?
>>106694196>no more itoddlersWhere do I have to sign?Anyway, they must be really desperate trying to summond Trump like that. There's no way they leave such a big market
>>106694196'Bye, Felisha.
>>106694196imagine if china threatens to take EU's side on this and match their laws 2x to force trump to cave
>>106695241Anyone got the template for this?
>>106694250söy consumption will go down
>>106695225>you can easily lower your living costNot really, we have nice newly-built apartments for 900 euros a month in Germany. While a shithole would cost like 400 a month and a 10/10 apartment would cost $2000 a month. Meanwhile the same "good one" would cost like $2000 in most equivalent US places, maybe even more. While the shithole equivalent would be like $1200 and the 10/10 apartment like $4500.You just pay more for the same stuff, while we get paid less but also pay less.
eu monopoly laws are awful. every time i use eu vpn i cant open maps straight from google all because of retarded eu laws. Its not about monopolies its about making citizens live in hell
>>106696897corpos decided to comply as painfully as possible so yeah you can get mad at eu for initiating this but the eu isn't the one implementing the changes
>>106694196good, we don't need poo phones
>>106694196Why would the EU care?Apple doesn't make phones there. If they left it wouldn't damage their economy.
>>106696897>>106696931True, they could just be like "do you want to open this in google maps, or openstreetmaps, or ...?" and you could select this once and it'll remember your choice.Instead, they chose to show nothing at all and make you hate the change
The old world being the old world, too bad the bubonic plague didn't end that shithole. At this point, U.S.A should firewall Europe and let them build their own internets and their own phones to see if those leeches can get off their asses and start innovating instead of buying from vaGina
>>106697049The bubonic plague would've ended your ancestors, too. Unless you're one of the indigenous people of north/south america. It was pretty wide-spread.
>>106694463Powerful post, goyim. Next burger will have extra High-Fructose Corn Syrup for being such a friend to G-ds Chosen!
>>106696969>Apple doesn't make phones there. If they left it wouldn't damage their economy.Their new modem C1(X) was made/designed in Munich.
>>106694196And?Apple doesn't mean shit in the EU.
>>106694223>don't like the prices?sorry that's the free market>our products don't sell?help me lovecraft's cat the market isn't functioning properly.
>>106695723Not playing for first month of the season so the tryhards can climb back to their no life ranks.
>>106697295git gud
>>106696144Chinks are slaves to iPhones. Their only 2 status symbol they can carry around on their body are their latest iPhones and their Benz car key.
>>106695624All their shit and data stored on iCloud, decades-long integration into iTunes, etc., etc.Like could you imagine losing all the playlists you had?That'd really suck.That's why I never used iTunes, Spotify, YouTube or any other third party service, that obviously would not allow you to make local backups, because, well, that's their grip over you.Oh, but you got the newest iFag, look at you, aren't you the cool and popular kid, eh?
>>106697338uhh okay? then what?
>>106697224Some part makes me wish they'd leave.On the other hand, it's possibly some dystopian, non-freedom EU law that's forcing that (ergo, I'd be an opportunist, because I'd normally defending Apple in such a case).They're probably going to comply (Apple).
>>106697338>and their Benz car key.lmao no
>>106697338>>106697635they are all about Buicks
>>106694196do it.nokia revival incoming.
>>106694196Iphones are for stupid people who have yet to realize smartphones are purely utilitarian devices with no prestige. Everyone makes them. Apple's entire business model is obsolete and ridiculous without even going into this current topic. Basically who cares? Just buy a Samsung or Xiaomi or whatever else.
>>106694265Americans have lost the right to call cars ugly after allowing this piece of shit on the road
>>106697775>Just buy a Samsung I'd rather kys>or XiaomiNi hao comrade.
>>106697846>smartphones are purely utilitarian devices with no prestigeI don't care that you have an iphone, it just means you're dumb. It's basically the same like having shitty tattoos or weird piercings.
>>106697873Why are you so angry?
>>106697308Forced 50% win rate no thanks
>>106697873>caring this much about phonespoor behavior
>forced Apple to use USB-C>all smartphones must have user-replaceable batteries by 2027The EU are the good guys.
>>106697873Ask me how I know you’re smelly
>>106694561>The only decent phone for white people that aren't poorLocked down garbage flooded with spyware for the goy huh?
>>106694196Oh no.. I sure hope my fellow citizens don't lose the opportunity to buy locked down trash backdoored by the us feds
>>106694567https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_wealth_per_adultMedian wealth per adult has the US outdone byIceland, Luxembourg, Australia, Belgium, Hong Kong, New Zealand, Denmark, Switzerland, the UK, Norway, Norway, Canada, France, the Netherlands, and Italy.Fucking BELGIANS have OVER DOUBLE THE WEALTH of the median US adult.
>>106700366>Norway, Norway,oops- double-pasted.Nonetheless - point stands. The US is basically poors-ville; can barely step beyond the likes of Spain. [spoiler]The real joke is Israel though, ranking below Slovenia...[/spoiler]
>>106694196>>106694215>>106694223iTODDLERS BTFO
>>106701893VLTRA BASED
>>106694372lol
>>106701932lmao
>>106694223we need the old Nokia back
>>106694477Your chart shows the S&P up over 10% in the past year…
>>106694196>threatens to pull out of EUas a evropean I sincerely hope they do
>>106694196>Apple threatens to pull out of EUno they won't, the EU can ignore this obvious bluffapple shareholders won't be happy at the loss of a market worth billions, the EU know that, and so do apple
>>106696895If more Americans ever traveled they'd realize how deeply cucked they are as a society. The median keeps getting poorer and poorer but line go up.
>>106694196No, removing consumer protections does not improve user experience. It improves the bottom line at the cost of user experience.
>>106694196>If we can't be in control then we don't wanna be involved!Are they not embarrassed to say this?
>>106694196imagine being such a braindead mutt that think forcing a company to obey the laws is a bad thing.
>>106694567And then you break your leg and have to go to the hospital and have to pay 50 million dollars lmao
>>106694463Dafaq? America is proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that people will not receive their fair share over there. A bunch of asians got arrested over the car factory incident and cost America and the SK government gorillions of jobs, plus big T pulled out of Ukraine and told old whathisface that all the promises that America made back then under a different president can mean absolute bullshit.Nobody's gonna make deals with you snakes anymore.
>>106694196Apple has been the most anticompetitive company on the planet for at least 20 years.
>>106694371But half the purchasing power. KEK.
>>106694223>push clown idelogieslike open boarers? oh wait....
>>106694567>GDP>magic line go up.
>>106694223Buy the Iphone or Ukraine gets nuked. I wont ask twice.
>>106694223>>believe competition and free market is king*government gets bought out by companies*>>demand monopolies for your companies everywhere
>>106695624>4000 mili-hectare battery
>>106695673>seemingly everything is fine but 2 years of OS supportYou're out the loop. Samsung and Pixel both offer 7 years of OS updates. Even chinkshit are up to 4.
>>106703139> he doesnt have an insurance
>>106700366>live in shithole thurdworld house from a million years ago>ummmh actually it's a cultural landsite even doe nobody with half a brain would want to live here, let's evaluate this tiny 2 room apartment to be worth like 6 gorillion yuropoor paper money >congrats Mr yuropoor you are basically, super wealthy and such for having the privilege of living in a room with only one bathroom!Yuronigga unironically believe this
>>106694223This.
>>106703521Says the ESL
>>106695681This is how Americans feel about Europeans, just so it puts it into perspective for you.
>>106704645Why do you seethe about them all the time then?
>>106694196Good. Fuck off.
>>106694196> Apple pulls out of EUGOOD RIDDANCE YOU FAGGOTS!
>>106694196Apple is trash. It would be great if they stopped selling in the EU.
>>106704645Americans are seething about Europe and China all the time. Meanwhile no American companies manufacture anything, including anything tech related. American companies only sell shitty services and social media, which can be easily replaced.
>>106694196No value will be lost.
>Apple threatens to pull out of EU
>>106694223>pot calling the kettle blackyou should read a history book sometime
