Edition: Learn a trade. Learn two. Previous: >>106670722We basically gave up on links recently so I won't bother with the few links of the previous thread.
reposting from old thread since I made a mistake of posting to a dying one:I switched to computer science and coding from machining because I was fed up with just being a coq in a machine that feeds some stupid ass production line with the same shit everyday without bringing anything valuable to this world. Well i struggled my way here and grinded a fuckton, basically just been living and breathing code and computer systems so I can make "it". Now I am in my first internship and it's literally the same bullshit, there is no value in any of these and we are just selling some shitty ass product that is full of shitty bubble-gum solutions that barely holds together that makes a lot of money despite me not understanding what the fuck is the point of it (some AI bullshit) and I once again find myself a coq in a machine that brings nothing to no one. How the fuck am I supposed to deal with this? Atleast I can work remotely and get paid a lot better so it's not like it was all a waste but jesus christ dude. The more I know the more I hate the internet, web, computers and what all our systems are built upon
Are yah winning son?
>>106695570WSJ: Is Gen Z Unemployable?>Hiring managers prize achievement, learning and work. Today’s youth value pleasure and individuality.https://pastebin.com/sVNPU35c
learn a trade
>>106695674Work for a company that makes something you think is at least somewhat meaningful, or make and sell some bullshit of your own.
>>106695717that pic is literally me (on the right).bending over to corps is gay.
>>106695674all jobs are like this. corps want determinism.
>>106695815>learn a trade where you get treated worse with less creative flexibilitywhy? are you low IQ? then why are you in tech?
>>106695717most jobs are gay like >>106695674 saidwhy the fuck would i value that over going home to my boyfriend and going on a hike and sucking his cock at the top and bottom and middle of the hikethis isn't even new. 1950s le american dream culture highly valued family over work. clickbait dogshit article.
>>106695894even talking to corps is gay but you do want a table like corps has
>>106689275YEP thats me>>106689286i work in a small local software shop the pay is okay but yea its pretty comfythe worst part is i could easily go and get second job and easily siphon money from two companies at the same time but instead i sit around doing nothing and wallowing in the misery
>>106695981this. talk to phone, wagie. the face don't wanna hear it.
>>106695674>because I was fed up with just being a coq in a machine that feeds some stupid ass production line with the same shit everyday without bringing anything valuable to this world.You could have just posted here and we would have told you how 99% of software jobs are no different.
>>106695674Normally, telling someone to watch a hollywood movie to learn something is stupid, but watch Office Space. Take in the lesson at the end.
>>106696164The real lesson is that they were right in wanting to promote the main character. He saw right through all of the companies bullshit and even had an idea of how to fix it. But he did not want to fire anyone. He could not divorce the reality of the situation from his ideals. Also he would have gotten back to his old job after a week of construction.
>check server>all this shitty malware trying to fuck with a totally corrupted rpm database>100 instances of yum totally locked>5 instances of shitty malware ("security" tools are malware) tools querying rpm db with rpm command>memory maxxed out>different pam modules locking up and timing out usersI am now redpilled why people use Amazon EKS or Azure AKS. None of my managed kubes nodes or containers are loaded up with this absolute bullshit garbage spyware and broken pam stacks. How does anything even work in this shit industry? I don't even think Linux servers were this bad 10 years ago when I worked for a giga corp. Now I come back to giga corps just to see this?Is this shit common even at "big tech?" do you morons use tanium, carbon blacked, symantec, clownstrike, or some shit? what the FUCK IS THIS SHIT
>>106695963cool story but you are a disgusting abomination
>>106696207My office is owned by a fortune 500 and the corporate windows laptops they give us are near unusable and have carbon black but luckily they don't look into our local linux servers and we get to do whatever we want on those.
>>106696435mine is top 50 in S&P 500. Ya, my work laptop is unusable outside of Visual Studio, and only because I think Visual Studio is whitelisted or something. But these servers I'm forced to intervene because the IT here is incompetent is unreal. Every new "project" I propose is built on "the cloud" using managed k8s because of this shit.
Currently listening to an all hands for my org...>.....ai......agents......ai......agents......AGENTS......ai....
>>106696675>HOLY SHIT LOOK AT THIS STACK OF PAPER AI MADEthat actually happened at on of my all-hands. It's just absolute cinema honestly.
>>106696449It's the nature of the beast. You don't put those restrictions and lockdowns and corpospyshield softwares on corp computers, people run off with them, install steam, go to porn sites, do retarded shit and fuck them up. You do put that shit on corpo computers, and something with perfectly adequate specs runs like a toaster.
>>106696768the problem is, they still do it, kek. but ya, I guess I understand (?). Personally I believe in zero trust autism myself, but whatever. maybe work machines should be more like Android/iOS and just be built on first principles to be performant and restricted to doing real work, but that's a pipedream.
>quarterly "check-in" with manager mandated by HR (Humiliation Ritual)>weeks before the meeting I have to fill a form with bullshit questions which are just variations of "what did I achieve" and "where can I improve">I have to rate myself from 1 to 5>you are expected to pick 3 if you are good, 4 if you are exceptional, 5 if you are a company-wide superstar>I pick 3 because fuck if I ever mess with the HR mafia>manager then answers the same questions and we then compare the answers in a meeting>he basically ignores the shitshow that happened between me and our director>his answers are the same as the previous quarter's, including the 3 ratingDoes this happen in your country?
>>106696856I always pick 5 because fuck the manger for not wanting to do his job.
>>106696675Literally me. Our boomer cofounder just told us that we should strive to never write code, only manage and maintain agents.
>>106696880ya, your company is fucked.t. how my current job looks and feels.your company will have you tard wrangle contractors from your vendors or other parties to implement systems that don't work.
>>106696856Yes, I recognize this exact process. Don't take any of the feedback seriously — your manager doesn't want to have the meeting either. Just smile and nod, take the "meets expectations," and move on.
i'm going to fucking lose it bros. i keep seeing news about companies doing RTO but i'm still trapped working from home where i don't even get to ogle office milfs walking around with visible panty lines. every time i see an announcement about another company returning to office, another piece of my soul falls off and dies. i need to see panty lines. memories of previous panty line sightings can only sustain me for so longif something doesn't change soon, i'm going to order one of those japanese sex dolls and dress it up in khakisfucking help me
>>106696877>dev profile>2 minutes>release profile>2 minutesI am crying bros, it's so ass.
>>106696856always pick 5 just for memes desu.fuck corp jannies, fuck hr, fuck managers.
>>106696907>japanese sex dollsI always avoid weebs in slack who have anime avatars, or are pretentious fags who say they love anime as they are definetely mentally ill, backstabbers and act child-like thinking real life is an anime series they are going through. Dude, just close the incident. Dude, just report. Dude, just go to the office. You are not smart, unique, you are fucking herd
>work out some stories before I go on vacation>come back from vacation and see they have been discussing some badly written a.i. integration test during my entire vacation>feature X had to be called and used and this needed to be verified in the integration test>feature Y is literally initialized and loaded during the integration test next to feature X>feature X is never actually used in the codeHow can the developer and reviewers be this fucking incompetent? Why even load feature Y for a test that has to use X?It's all so tiresome.
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I gave the person sixty minutes so he can fortify his position. Seems the ethical, right thing to do.
I posted yesterday about being asked to come to work at 8 pm and being called and messaged on LinkedIn to do so. I got pissed off and I wanted to shout at everyone, but just before the meeting I had a moment of clarity and I asked for a raise. They actually took me seriously. They told another person who is higher up than me that they could not afford to lose a single person. How do I squeeze them by the balls and get the most I can? I wanted 50%, but I'm not sure how feasible it would be in Big 4 without a promotion. I am definitely not paid enough for what I do and I strongly believe I deserve more. Wat do? Also I've only been with the company for like half a year lmao
>coworker (guess the ethnicity) used to be annoyingly vocal about how the president is doing a great job >he completely shut himself in the cubicle in the past week >i wonder what happened >turns out he's livid about the h1b fees lol i guess supporting political causes against your own interests is a global phenomenon and not just an american one
>>106697558idk man start by listing out your actual responsibilities and tie that to a job title/rank and then get the salary bracket for that title in your local area
>Working forcing me to "upgrade" to Windows 11How fucked am I
>>106696207are you retarded or just pretending? your company could have just kept a copy/image of the OS, they should have hardened that shit and kept its software stack up to date. which should be the responsibility of your IT, security and dev teams.>b-but muh cloudyou are just giving the burden of maintenance/patching/security to some other company. don't be surprised if one day your cloud shit gets pwned or your data gets leaked, though.
>>106696207Sounds pretty normal for a thing in the megacorp to gigacorp size business. It's all in the name of "security", which is when some guy in his 50's gets grifted by crowdstrike, Paolo alto tech, zscaler, .ect to buy a very expensive service to solve their "security" needs. What those threats are and how above services helps is way outside his expertise, but we are now required to use it!As a side effect everyone in the company is wondering why the network is breaking all the time, and the poo flingers in india are clueless as to how fix the problem.
>friend tells me about his shit coworker>he apparently made the guy feel stupid over a Slack conversation>friend asked questions that the guy couldn't answer even though he's suppose to>it wasn't a big deal>now that coworker is sending out emails with their boss CC'd telling him he hasn't gotten non-critical to production tasks done>tell friend his coworker is trying to create documentation to get him fired or laid off>friend is in denialAm I the one being paranoid or isn't this normal behavior that people do to get someone kicked out?
>>106698323you're absolutely correct that coworker is trying to throw dirt on your friend and get him fired
>>106698323i hate working with people everyone are such weirdos and snakes as soon as they don't like you. they'll act like your best friend and then as soon as you tick them off or they start to get paranoid that you might tattle on them to management they start sabotaging and building up dirt in secretyour friend is very lucky that he is getting visibility into the bullshit his coworker is doing. usually people try to keep all that stuff secret so they can try get management to blindside you and have them already thinking all kinds of shit about you.
>>106698218are you? why is all this EDR garbage shelling out to rpm -q 'some bullshit' or rpm -i their-malware.rpmand this other one is just running yum on a timed task without using systemd timers so now there are 100s of stalled yums that had to be SIGKILL'd?read the fucking post before commenting retard. EKS won, AKS won.
>>106698245>everyone in the company is wondering why the network is breaking all the timeliterally me and too real....
>>106698346>>106698382I figured but my friend isn't having any of it. Already warned him but it fell on deaf ears.I unfortunately got the covert dirt gathering coworker. Fuck that guy.
>>106698396>EDR>on serverslmao, your security teams are retarded
>>106698538yes. it makes no sense.
>mess up at work yesterday>apologize to my boss at the end of the day yesterday>expect a reaming this morning from him>instead don't get confronted at allThis is an uncomfortable feelingIs he waiting until the end of the day today or Friday so he can fire me
>>106698598nah, no one fucking cares. did you fix it? yes? ok.
>>106698598only if hes a psycho like my boss who doesn't tell me anything for months then tries to tell management that i've been a problem employee all of a sudden
>>106698598>He apologizes for his mistakesYou're supposed to reframe it as a fix and a win
https://x.com/TikTokInvestors/status/1969570959448498621Almost 3pm so the day is winding down. Did you guys get your 2 meals + dessert today?
>>106698570It has to be everywhere.It lowers threat attack surface.Find a way to do what you need to without getting in the way of the EDR agent.Thanks
>>10669859No point in chewing you out, you already know you fucked up. Sounds like a good (or competent at least) manager.
My toenails were purple this morning. Apparently I have poor circulation. What tech can fix this?
>>106698689>5 hours of workIf you can call an adult daycare work
>>106695917>learn a trade where you get treated worse with less creative flexibilityIf you are smart you get treated well and get to design what you are building :)t. finish carpenter
>>106698932Exercise
>>106698689some of us are west coasti haven't eaten anything yet todayi've got some frozen fish fillets in the air fryer right now, gonna have some fish sandwiches for lunch while trying to figure out what the fuck the customer did to break their account so bad, god damn idiots
>>106698689Don't be lazy, convert to webm
>>106699167What's the best way of doing that? I'm typically shitposting while taking a dump
>>106699201There are UI tools you can find, but I use a combination of yt-dlp to download (it accepts tiktok urls, also twitter, linkedin, other sites too) and ffmpeg to convert, with some custom scripts I wrote
>>106695917>iq copeNobody needs the useless garbage you are tinkering with , keyboard Clacker monkey. Tradies keep society running.
I had fantasies of starting my own non-tech semi-passive business. I had to learn in the dumbest way that those fantasies wouldn't work, at least not in the way I had hoped they would work.don't be stubborn, don't think yourself as smarter than everyone else and don't live in fantasy land, bros. just do what other greedy people do if you want to make money.
>>106699451It works it just isn't passive, or easy. You have to actually work. But a lot of us are in this because we didn't want to do that kind of work. Lol.
>>106699412check the thread you're in, cuck. it's /twg/, not whatever bullshit you're talking about.
>>106699571>bullshitNobody respects you, pencil neck. You dont repair , you dont build , you dont nurse. You type gibberish to make a thing go beep that nobody needs.Nerd.
>>106699580why do people come into generals and just say random off-topic shit? fuck off.
>>106698534Now I wonder if my co-worker is was doing the same to me years ago but dropped it considering it wasn't working on me for some reason since I am still here. Think being made to ask questions but in front of everyone in an email instead of just answering a quick question on the side.
>>106698782>Find a way to do what you need to without getting in the way of the EDR agent.I'm not the one that broke the RPM database kek. This server is so fucked It's better to nuke it, but the software it's running has insanely retarded and invasive licensing so it won't be easy to move.more proof containers and k8s won I guess.
>>106699469>>106699451Fuck I wish I had the drive and brain to open up my own business. Recently getting delayed payments and put down to half-hours at comfy small co. job. Similar businesses are hiring but I'm wondering if I'll have a nice job or fight some Human Roasties at HR just to breathe. Used to work at a big corpo already and that was ass. Started wondering about being a tradie but back and knees are already spaghetti. I fucking hate computers.
>>106698689>>106699167Do they actually give this food out for free? Weren't there bullshit fed tax law changes that fucked a lot of this up? I would definitely not pay whatever bullshit 10-20 dollar a meal for this.Also she has a nice booty, but everything else is a disaster. Is this normal Black girl magic?
>>106699758Based on her arm fat you can tell she is going to be obese in a few years max. Get it while it's hot.
>>106699789>Get it while it's hot.isn't that basically w*men in a nutshell? there is one chick at my work. her younger pictures were much better than what she currently looks like. sad!
>>106697371This post, did you make it? What's your background?
>no raise or promotion last year>decide to ride this year out waiting for an uptick in the job market>fuck ton of people leaving the company>boss already hinted at no raise this year either>job market somehow even worse nowfuck me in the ass sideways
>>106699167>just convert it to a meme format with NO SOUND instead of playing it from the embed
>>106699880I have been with the board for fifteen years developing cunny threads.
Does Linkedin learning have any good courses? Company offers it and I've never used it. Things have slowed down so I have some extra time. I feel my skills have deteriorated in this job as I'm only doing full-stack but my team doesn't touch any back-end/database logic apart from using node layer to call back-end services. I want something other than React.
>>106699914What is a cunny thread, exactly?
>>106699934
>>106699951ssshhhhhhhttps://youtu.be/Elyfo1DIlzs?t=91
>>106699934My thesis was a study in the ways that cuteness ratiosaffect steering outcomes in enjoyment under reduced appetite loads.
does /g/ like d4vd or nah?
>>106699963Damn this looks atrocious
Any more fed layoffs or DoD layoffs recently?
>they changed password policy to be at least 15 charactersLMAOOOOOO
>>106700229123123123123123
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>>10670022915 characters is fine. I just hate it when the minimum password requirement is like 8 characters including a special character, and it rejects a 16-character alphanumeric password even though it's a lot safer than 8 random characters.(8 characters lower/uppercase + numbers + symbols is about 50 bits and 16-character lower/uppercase + numbers is about 95 bits)
>>106700347just add a ! at the end of it
>>106699033Yes chef
>>106700229stop complaining or I'm going to add mfa
>>106695674I'm beginning to think that the only way to make things that aren't shit is for you to make it yourself. You can also work with a select crew of like-minded people. I think about how all these incredible games were made in the 90s by small crews of white guys and like one Asian guy. Compare that to now. It's too bad discrimination on the basis of everything is not legal in USA.
>>106700469It's crazy how bad they fucked up Infinite.
>>106700229>coooooders can't remember a password
>>106700514I haven't played since Halo 3, can I get a qrd on Infinite
>>106700347This. Don't they know that there's more bits of entropy if you use simple dictionary words?
>>106700518Multiplayer gameplay was okay, but they were plagued by technical issues. I remember big team battle lobbies just straight not working for a week+. And also shit like picrel.
Anybody working at any tier 2 companies able to confirm if the grass is any greener? Working for a fortune top 50, the pay is great but I fucking hate the place.>Work a simple change>Push out a PR>build breaks on an unrelated flaky test>Flag the team that owns it>They dismiss it because nobody has ever complained before>Their bullshit is stopping me from meeting unreasonable turn around deadlinesI just want to hear if it's any better other places or is we're all eating shit for money until the gravy train dries up.
>>106700469This is incredible. I don't find any of them attractive.
>>106700565I'm being fucking genocided.
>>106700469the second left-most one is a beautiful woman
>>106700469They're all so frumpy. And not one hard nipple in sight. How can they make a game if I can't fap to them?
>>106700608>left-most*right-most. fuck me, I'm being stupid today
>>106700591same everywhere
i literally am definitely ngmi through this week
>>106700603It was pretty dumb.>muh immersionbut unironically
>>106695674What kind of machining did you do? What was your job title?
>started at a new company recently>zoomers are pasting chatgpt output to justify their changes in the PR>AI chatbot is pedantically reviewing my PRsJust a couple more years and I can retire...
>>106700674I have completely and utterly fucked up my night shift this week to build the fence with my neighbor. At least it looks professional with high quality materials but man the cost is material/sleep. Likewise for him since he is older its being all fucked up in the morning. Could be worse however we both could be splitting 3x the actual cost with a shitty contractor that will fuck everything up.I do still have to work the weekends so i am fucked there.
>>106699412>keyboard Clacker monkeylol. what's your trade?
>>106699580lol... tits, trade, or gtfo
>>106700629that's a man baby
>>106695717Ah yes because everyone knows hippies and gen x were suit in tie just the facts people and not hippie suck in fuckers.
>>106699587he's a bored tech worker
>>106696207Here is the secret anon, it doesn't. Security is after thought and only gets applied after shit hits the fan and gov has to bust down on everyone because grandma just lost her life savings.
>>106700856Can old people identify zoomers by looking at them? I've been trying to pass off as a quiet mid-30s something that cannot engage in small talk, but I do get caught staring at the bullshit google's AI spits out at me
>>106700565Big team battle still doesn’t work and the last time I tried to load the game it got stuck on shaders for 6 hours and never loaded at all. I can’t believe they’re allowed to sell it.>>106700591Keep paper trails and blame them every chance you get. This happens anywhere in any industry, best scenario is they do their job and better scenario is they get fired
>>106695674find a startup that's making something you find interesting and work for them
>>106701034>Big team battle still doesn’t work Wtf? They just gave up I guess. That's crazy. Anyway I thought the gameplay that was working was fun.
>>106701026it depends. please answer the following:Do you have a broccoli cut? Are you always wearing ear buds?What brand are your shoes?
have any anons here ever gotten a diagonal promotion or switched jobs shortly after getting promoted?>be me>software engineer at a company for 3 years>had 4 years experience elsewhere already before that>manager says "ooooo you're looking like you need a promotion anon">makes me do all the SHIT paperwork and """""self evaluation""""">two weeks later>"ooooo that's great anon now keep filling out the spreadsheet for 6 months">ignore spreadsheet>ignore performance metrics>give bare minimum>finally hit metrics because now we can just write tickets about shit that we don't really need to be documenting whatsoever>might get a promotion within the year although they missed their """""sales quota""""">meanwhile large scale, privately invested corporation raking in cash>meanwhile layoffs and """""relocation of investments""""" have made their """""process""""" more """""efficient"""""what do I do anons?
>>106700591the industry sucks everywhere you go. it has been ruined since about 2015.
>>106700518yeah, never play it unless your friends are normalfaggots or zoomers who only have the latest games
>>106696898It’s always funny to see stuff like this. I’m a consulting engineer and I usually feel like I have to tard wrangle my customers. Why are they all so dumb?
>>106701094>Do you have a broccoli cut? Nope, unkempt. I often walk in with bed head>Are you always wearing ear buds?I have one of those customer service earpieces>What brand are your shoes?Uhhh sketchers?
>>106701026Anyone younger than me (31) is a zoomer and it's pretty obvious when you're younger than I am. Even if you're older than me, if you care about the company at all you have the mind of a child and are essentially a zoomer. I don't hate zoomers or anything. I just wish there was some shame around outsourcing your thinking.
someone suggest a movie to watch tonight>>106700977she's a valid woman, you faggot
>>106701324children of men
>>106698637this anon gets it, it's a honed skill, fluffing up a profession
>>106701173Act like you are too busy because you have work to get to, and that's why you aren't smalltalking, and yes you will pass.
>>106701324>that's not a manyou must be new around hereThe Substance
good morning sirs
>>106700469the goods are odd
>>106696856always pick 5then the manager dials it down to 3 cause it's supposed to be a bell curve and the bootlickers (cocksuckers) need to get the 4 and 5
>>106701628what's the point in asking you to evaluate yourself if the managers ratings is all that end up mattering?
>>106701628Naw, pick the thing you did the worst at and put 3. Pick the thing that you did the best at and put 5.Use these two as your frame of reference to decide whether you get a 3,4,or 5.
>>106701685To test if you are smart enough not to volunteer for the next layoff.
>want this job? you have to pass our social aptitude test first
>>106697558Have you proven them what you did and how much of it is better if it’s done just by you? Give them numbers maybe 50% is adequate if you say you want to do more projects idk Say you value loyalty and them agreeing proves that they see your results something like that
>>106701782Be honest; that's how you pass those tests. If you tell them bullshit you think they want to hear, you won't score well. Many personality tests are designed to detect inconsistent or overly idealized answers, so trying to game the test often backfires.
This stand-up has been going for 1 hour and 40 minutes I pray it's over by the 2 hour mark
>>106701854Terrible adviceYou should always pick the ideal answerNo company wants honesty
>>106701685To trick motherfuckers and lower their self esteem>Oh hmmm sorry, nobody "exceeds expectations" )))))))))
>>106702004Another problem with not being honest is that you may be mistaken about which answers are the "right" ones.>Do you consider yourself someone who naturally takes charge?Yes! I am a leader!>We're not looking for a leader.Wait, what?
>>106702034No company has ever said "you have too many leadership qualities"Why are namefags always like this
>>106699907I like that this site is quiet
>>106702124I wish you were quiet
>>106702034what is this, retard hour?
>>106702170>>>/g/utwg
I don't want to work any more. I have no passion left for tech. I just want to move to a beach in Thailand and never look at a screen again.
>be me>4 years at current company>making 200k full remote (used to be more but I the equity cliff has ended and they wont give me more)>boss is a tryhard boomer who refuses to promote me unless I "do the job of the level above me for a whole year">other companies recruiting on linkedin either pay less or pay more but require in office>bombed interviews with the only companies that pay more full remote, dont have college buddies in the other ones to forward my resume or theyre just not hiring>attempted a startup side project, that did not go well>every single side hustle I could think of does not make nearly as much as my day job>everyone else is telling me about their crypto wins and passive income investing in HVAC businesses or real estate, cant tell if they're bullshitting me or if they actually are making itbros.... I just want to exit the rat race... it feels like theres no end to this tunnel....
Weaklings complaining about losing the "passikn" for their jobBitch go do customer service for minimum wage and see how fast that passion comes back
>>106702669I just want to go back to sitting on my ass eating tendies and programming autistic mods for vidya but while still making money to maintain my consoomerist lifestyle
>work at fagman>office space has been particularly fag free>recent new hire seems on the verge of trooninghe's at least not on my team, but he sits in the same space. It was nice while it lasted
>>106703102two troons at my company married eachother
>>106702637>making 200k full remoteI'm doing 120K full remote, any details you can give on how you achieved 200K full remote?
Question... back in 2021 I was taking some coolege college courses for a 'Associate of Science Degree in Cyber Defense'. I fell off school after my wife gave birth and also because at the time my last required class was a bullshit elective requirement like bio or something that I didnt want to do. Today after applying to some jobs and one getting back to me asking for proof of education I rechecked the Program and now the only required class I have left to take is a intro to Python. Would it be worth my time to take this 3 unit class and get this associates degree? Would it be valued? I current do Tech Support but want to move on to a bigger and better role. I have no certs. Have 2.5 years experience with troubleshooting software, communication problems and hardware problems with a product my company manufactures. Doing with software glitches for our products, create user names and accounts, set user levels like admin, etc. Configure and troubleshoot wireless antennas, cell modems, work a lot with ipv4 and sometimes DHCP, and lastly hardware is mostly just power supplies, and shit. Or replacement of new embedded controllers with windows installed and setting those up, preforming software updates, etc. It's a damn call center environment. Phones always ringing, emails assigned, live chat... I just want a normal IT job that isn't so damn stressful
working fucking SUCKSworking in tech fucking SUCKSbending over for a corpo SUCKSi do not CARE about career """""GOALS"""'that is superficial work to make HR and managers to give an illusion of progress and development in an sector of life that does not and will not matter caring about careers are for WOMENunless women SUCK my penis i do not care about women!!!!>>106700162hmmm maybe i should eat more potatoes...i love eating potatoes...what are good ways to cook some nice potatoes...>>106700032he's BLACK what do you think
>>106703290Yes take the class. An associates degree is better than no degree. Also, depending on how your state's community college system works, completing the Associates degree might make you elgible to continue your education at a university for a bachelor's degree.
>>106703113he's lying.
>>106703332Maybe I have to look into it. I've burned through my financial aid due to being a retard art major right after high school.
>>106703347You are not OP. OP has 3 credits left to get a degree. Tell me a little more about your situation and I will advise if I can.
>>106703344People do earn 200K
>PHD in Math>$300k starting>any job I want
>>106703422Yes, a few people do. But it as a statistical impossibility that all the anons on here claiming to make $200k actually do make $200k. Mostly just jeets trying to demoralize you.
>>106703431>as he mumbles to himself flipping burgers at McDonalds
i still hold this post close to my heart
>>106702465stick with it at least until you turn 35rake as much as money as you can then study something else like theology or history so you can retire at some rural town and become a teacher or somethingor maybe learn skateboard.just hold the burn out and rake as much money. stick with it anon.
>>106695717lol fuck no boomers and gen x are the most ad hominem faggots i've ever meetthey throw shades as they breath but once you talk back they get assmad and will go out of their way to ruin your entire time there until you quit, all while coming home just to yell at their wife and kidsthe entire generation conflict can be simplified into twoguys over 35 are stuck up faggots who never bothered to be pleasant or hip, never bothered to teach anything, maintaining ignorance and apathy despite being a mature adult than everyone else. Every mistake either guarantees a yelling or a complete silent treatment.guys under 30 hasn't realized yet that the point of a job is just to make money and go home to do whatever instead of being too anxious and indifferent at the office. Or they don't have basic professionalism and still carry the same mindset from high school.
>>106703503I'm 33 so I avoid it all heheheheheh
>>106703503The youngest Gen X is 45The youngest boomer is 61
>>106703471Why, that guy is clearly low quality
>>106701996Yeah this is the shitty thing about working with techies, they can't help but derail every meeting to go into some in-depth discussion about some specific issue. You just need to cut them off and make it clear that stand-up is for assigning new tickets and a short round of what people are working on and if they need help. Tell people to plan separate meetings for discussing specific issues. Hint: they will never plan those meetings.
>>106703531Elaborate
My standup is funnySay we have a retro on today, or any other regular meeting Every single person will mention that retro in their "working-on" for the day, with no intended humour
>>106703113I got the job summer 2022 during peak hiring, my entire team is spread out around the country so RTO is unlikely>>106703344170k base, 15% bonus, and what used to be 30k stock per year. It's a tier or two below fagman, and due to the current recession we stopped hiring except for leads with 15+ YOE (I have 6 YOE)
What gen z simply doesn't like about working is getting yelled at, getting silent treatment, and unable to afford living on their own without relying on their parentsWhat gen x and boomers doesn't like is innovation, optimization, and doing actual work instead of endless meetings and public appearances. Fuckheads are all already married with wife and kids, owning so much assets and property. Of course they are scared coming down from their ivory towers.
>>106703636bullshit. post pic of paystub.
>>106703113pic rel, have you even met a Software Engineer V? For context, a Lead Software Engineer is a IV.Ignore these fools. They lie.
>>106703667The ADP pretax or the deposit into my checking account?You gonna accuse me of using inspect element if I do?
>>106703712ADP pretax exported to PDF.
>>106703720I'm not gonna post doxxable information on 4chan lmao
>>106703731You can snipping tool the PDF and blot out your personal info.
>>106703740aight, I'll do it when I get up tomorrow morning
>>106696207Ah I see you're enjoying the "tech" Israel "shares" with us.
>>106696768I'm always surprised by the dumb things people do on corporate laptops.
>>106696366At least he provides someone a valuable service
>>106696768Shit like that is why even with in IT we have separation of duties since people would heavily infect their PC with viruses. More importantly shits fucked we have fired so many people for far less than porn(no call no show, sleeping at work, not doing their jobs ect) but one year we fired 3 for porn.
>>106703747sure bub
>>106703787>>106703804it's because jeets are too cheap to buy their own laptop and too incompetent to secure their corporate laptops
>>106696877>wincucksI work at msft and my team has thousands of private backend machines to farm shit out to. Most of it is running linux
anyone managed to get a job at faang without a degree recently?
>>106703962Go apply to Amazon they are more desperate than the military right now with bonuses included.
>>106703995working at a tech job, i mean
>>106704000I did infact mean that. They burn through tech workers in the same manner as their warehouse workers. Just apply anyways.
>>106704046thats depressing but I will do exactly that, im desperate
Shared app with separate database for each tenant vs each tenant completely isolated? I'm looking at the costs and I don't really see a difference how much am I really saving with increased complexity of shared app?
>>106704132Probably depends on the number of tenants but I'd pick the first unless the tenant is paying premium for being completely isolated.
>>106703995>AmazonDo people really seek to work at that shithole?
>>106703962yupwalked right in and firm handshaked my way in
>>106704178People think its still apart of FAGMAN so they might as well apply to get some job experience before getting out of there.
where do you see yourself in the graphic
>>106704409Missing>Boring job but great paycheck
>>106704427Me desu. Just have to join a zoom call at noon and compose my face in something approximating innocuous approval
>>106704391So when is Amazon going to shit going to start affecting people? All my stuff is Azure, but Azure already sucks.
>>106704409missing>no job>no paycheck
>>106704542>you>an idiot>no job>no paycheck>me>smrt>johnny>paycheck
>>106704568I am way to fucking tired to write. But yes once you hear about AWS shiting the bed then you can start to see the rest of the cracks form in Amazon. They are overleveraged with Cloud/Database/Compute data centers while everyone else moved onto AI. This was the big pivot they did during covid to protect themselves from Walmart/Target/Costco's warehouse business that is actually competitive. If they fail at the server market business in either of those niches then the company will fail.
>walkable citiesjust a thinly veiled restriction on freedom of movement. How do stuff including food gets transported? Oh right, dragon dildos have more rights then actual humans
>>106704409Says nothing about the coworkers. Paycheck is alright, job is ok-ish. I fucking hate the clients, my mediocre coworkers and my boss...
I dont hate black people, i hate niggersI dont hate jews, i hate zionistsI don't hate Indians, i hate jeetsCapisce?
>>106704666So it's an alright job anon
>>106704542No, it's there.
>>106704641Your choice is:walkable cities and people not being fat orunwalkable cities and endless expanse of parking lots and traffic everywhere If you think owning a car makes you free or freer than those without one, you're a delusional cuck.
>>106704641>How do stuff including food gets transported?To the store? In a van most likely. From the store to your home? On foot, on a bike.
tgif am i right fellas
>>106704641Literally impossible to service stores in an urban environment. Cannot be done, has never been done.
>>106704794yeah look how europeans live. doctors living in 900 sq foot condos making 60k a year. thats the dream right there. le walkable heckin cities my wholesome chungus anons!like ewww trucks? parking lots? suburbs? count me out. put me in ultra high density housing in le walkable city with lesser races that would violently kill me if they though they would get away with it
>>106700229>>106700515>client company adds MFA>MFA is required multiple times just to connect to their VPN + log in a server>opening the MFA app requires pin or fingerprint>confirming the login requires pin or fingerprint>app closes itself everytime you confirm or deny a request
>>106704834amen brother
>see red bubble on teams>check it>"Hi how are you doin?"
>>106705074step 1) make your own meetings - just for you :)step 2) get a mouse jiggler thing---->> you will be seen as In a Meeting which has more weight than Busy
>>106705074>not leaving it on read.noob
>>106704948it's actually fucking hilarious they did this at my place too. the UX is so fucking bad and operators on the floor are literally writing their passwords down on sticky notes because we're beyond MFA, we're literally "passwordless." (with a password ofc)
>>106705074well? how are you doin?
>>106705074>Not bad, you?It's that easy, Anon.
>>106704983Could've retired after his Naito match during the forbidden door crossover eventHate the learning tree gimmick so much i just couldn't watch AEW anymore
>>106704834Of couurshh
>>106705398what race even is this
>>106705398>"Hello, I'm the new product manager. Do you have any spare charger for a Mac?"
>>106705491Canadianhttps://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Twistzz
>>106705502>"sorry mr product manager, we're a microsoft workshop and visual studio doesn't run on mac"
>>106705110Literally me.I then proceed to take a nap o go for a comforting walk in nature.
>8 new employees at the Helpdesk have arrivedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qE5FSG6K0Y
i found myself being able to corporate speak now after just working for 2 years and following tech poasters on twitter"Thank you for making such decisions throughout your life that leads you into this person I am seeing right now. You'll be an example for the rest of us."
>>106705110can't your manager see your bullshit meetings?
you have to work thrice as hard as your father to get women who is a quarter of your mom's qualitythank God for billionaires
Anyone just moodier when they work from home? It really does feel like my boss asks me significantly more stupid questions when I'm WFH compared to RTO and I can't get a base on how important this shit is. At least in person I can just be like "uhhh lol what" and they'll get it but I can read their messages in 20 different ways.
>>106706630>Anyone just moodier when they work from home?good lord, no.if something isn't crystal clear ask him to clarify.ask for 5 minutes of his time if necessary, starting a call takes 1 click
>>106706630I think that when in the office, people are in a work "mode," and more receptive to inquiries. But when "working" from home, they're irritable, because the inquiries feel invasive — it's as if they've been interrupted on their own time.
You haven't become so bitter by work that you turn into anti-natalist faggatroids, right, /twg/?
>>106706630>Anyone just moodier when they work from home?go out morego out morego out morejust go out more pleasetake your little siblings with you to the arcade
>>106706697Maybe that's it. I don't mind answering shit but when it's really vague asks at home it just pisses me off because I can't gauge if it's gonna be a 5 minute task or a whole fucking project.>>106706684Ngl, even random phone calls are pissing me off. I'd rather get emails but nobody likes making an email now a days huh.
>>106706795emails and calls are tools, use the right one for the right situation>hey anon, could you restart this server real quick?/ do you remember the path where we saved the documentation for this project?chat>shit that requires approval regardless of how small the task is, or where the answer might produce a lot of data like log analysis, producing reports, or some kind of task that needs to be scheduledemail>complicated shit that requires explanation while having the tools or documentation openedschedule a call>I can't gauge if it's gonna be a 5 minute task or a whole fucking projectthat's either a very VERY vague explanation on their part or you aren't familiar enough with your job.it's ok if you start to dig into a task that looked easy but you found out that it was harder than you thought, but if you don't have an idea from the get go it means there's something wrong.the solution is to ask questions, while wording it very clearly that you can't proceed if you don't know if you need to do X or Y
one more day
>>106706630no. I'm in the office 3 days a week, when they ask questions. On the other two they just leave me alone because they assume im working
>>106707202that's either a very VERY vague explanation on their part or you aren't familiar enough with your job.trust me my company is filled with gen x and boomers. they can make the most vague request I've ever seen and there's like 20 different ways to interpret it. asking questions just leave more vagueness and I don't want to call them because they end up adding way more complexity or asking a lot more stuff than I want...
>google search "cheapest volvo sedan" on work laptop while on the vpn>autocompletes to "in india"
>>106696675>>106696697>>106696880At an F100 all-hands last week our CTO spent several minutes talking about how soon things will be "like Star Trek or Tony Stark in the Avengers" where we just give voice commands to some magic entity that can do everything. I can't tell if they're really this dumb or in on the grift.
>>106695674>manufacturing components for industrial applications that run the world doesn't bring any value to the world>importing libraries to python files, on the other hand...what a ragebait
FAGMAN interview today. I'm definitely under prepared. Perfect.
Security guy is pushing for us to become passwordless. Is this guy trying to kill helpdesk? PW resets are most of the tickets.
>>106707798does anyone care about help deskies?
Well I think I did good on the interview but I'm not moving to DC to make less than 150k a year, so they'll probably go with someone else.
>>106703747>as he mumbles to himself microwaving burgers at McDonalds
>>106707811No. And the servicenow devs just make and break workflows for fun.Fuck those guys.
>>106707798I don't believe for a second help desk would miss password resets and having to tell the dumb boomers calling in what their temporary password is a dozen times, plus what criteria the password needs to meet. Surely there's enough workload with real tickets you aren't worrying about job cuts from password removal?
>>106706720>take your little siblings with you to the arcadeI am the little sibling.
My interview was scheduled to be 30 minutes but lasted 12, am I fucked? It was 10 minutes of interviewer questions with 20 minutes for me to ask, but the first question I asked was met with the interviewer saying I wouldn't get more information relative to it until I met the hiring manager.
>>106708066go on, tell us the question
>>106708192>What is the team composition like in terms of experience? Will I be part of a largely green group with oversight, coming in as individual support for a more senior team, or something in the middle?
>>106700162>French fries, chips near the topHmmm>>106704409I think I'm at #5 (with the top being #1). If I could figure out how to get along with my coworkers better, it would probably be #8, but I don't think that's ever going to happen soon
>>106705074Better than just 'hi' and then nothing>>106706720There are no arcades where I live, really wish there was
>>106703667>>106703720>>106703807>>106703702People at places like Airbnb and Pinterest get paid way more full remote, idk why you think my numbers were ludicrous.>>106707827I do eat mcdonalds frequently
My boss keeps thanking me for all the hard work I'm doing. I literally have not done anything or even showed up to the office in 3 months. It's so confusing.
I don't need to make more money, I want to work less, maybe side projects that eventually turn into passive income is the way to go?I really can't see myself building the next big thing, but I thought about trying to build a bunch of smaller apps that together render a decent income.Also thought about becoming a fisherman or a writer.Thoughts?
>>106704409Fluctuating between hating the job and the job being alright but the pay is great.
>>106708490>fishermanyou don't have what it takes>writermeme
>>106708468that was me when i was depressed and angry. I'm whatever now but I'm also just not doing anything at work either.
>>106708468>>106708516Literally me.I just do nothing and put on a good face and people seem to be OK with it.
I made some stupid fucking 2 minute tech tutorial youtube video 6 months ago and somehow Google Search picked it up, and it's now making me a cool $2/day. Maybe I can just pump out tech tutorial slop videos and eventually quit my job?
>>106707675>overheard a conversation between 2 fagmen>not a fagman myself, just share a business park, eat lunch at same places, etc>fagman 1, who is presumable lead/senior dev is trying timidly and earnestly essentially to explain that the company’s new “AI agent workflow” is retarded, creates 10 problems for every 1 it solves, and is basically just slowing the team down>fagman 2, presumably manager, is dismissively and cajolingly explaining that fagman 1 is not using workflow correctly because it is obviously much faster and better than human devs alone.>fagman 2 is biting his tongue and acquiescing, like a whipped school boy>2 fagmen unironically proceed to discuss their high-performing RSUsIt seems like the more clear the memory of “agentic AI” becomes, the more these companies double down. Probably this same conversation is happening everywhere all over the country. Only a matter of time before morality breaks completely and theyre faced with the reality of their sunk investment
How do you deal with a team that you support that's really actually a pain in the ass? I swear to fucking god this bitch takes everything as a personal attack. It's the worse because she sounds nice at first, then she'll fucking be stubborn and die on a hill on the smallest fucking thing. Her boss is the exact same way so there's no escalating to her boss dealing with her.
>>106708490Everything is either done already, will barely make you any money, or is extremely difficult or time intensive
>>106708721like god damn I really don't want to deal with this bitch anymore
>>106708490>>106708734This right here.If I may suggest a course of action >>106708592
>>106696675Our pajeet CEO just told us to “find a new job if you’re going to make fun of AI”
>2k in car repairsAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>106708857SAAAR DO NOT MOCK THE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCESAAAAR
>>106708490Go back in time and hop on every successful scam.Crypto, NFTs, ai. Invest, sell, be megarich. Buy millions of bitcoin at the time some faggot spend thousands of them to buy a pizza.
>manager surprised me today in the morning>was able to tell him all about my work progress on a crucial feature and possible refactorings in the futureI did well today.
How do you deal with the political type when you're talking with someone? The type that always has to be right (you can't say so because most of "i'm right" comments is an attack on you) but they throw it out like how politicians do it and you're so flabbergasted and confused on what they're even trying to say you can't even comprehend your defense.
>>106698323Why would you purposely go out of your way to make enemies at your workplace? Unless your coworker is interfering with your work, don't bother them. And if they are interfering with your work, kindly make them aware of it and only if that doesn't work talk to your manager about it.
>>106704409Alright job alright paycheck
>Email from someone saying they're having an issue with their monitors >The "issue" is that whenever they disconnect their laptop from the dock the monitors stop working If you ever think you're a moron just remember there's always someone dumber>>106695570
>>106709300help desk isnt tech work
>>106709300Stop making fun of grandpa
god damn my head hurts
>>106709370Evey day I'm glad I'm not help desk
>>106707777Oh yeah, that interview did not go well. Fuck.
>>106709133From what he said, it was just a regular chat and the other dude felt like an idiot for not being able to answer any of the questions. My friend wasn't even being an asshole after reading their chat log. He's moved up to management at this point because it's starting to affect everyone.
>>106704409love the alright job (I do almost 0 work and full remote wfh, but that means I'm not challenged or growing at all)love the paycheck
>>106709414deets.
Help desk is the life blood of IT! Without us everything would fall apart. Fuck you and you monitor issues!Fuck you and your request for a new mouse!Fuck you and your application request ticket!
>>106709458The first two interviews went surprisingly well. Was able to answer all of their questions and hit every point they wanted but the hiring manager was hard to crack. He was so disinterested and didn't want to be in the room. I was able to answer their questions but he didn't seem to be satisfied to anything I said. It was like talking to a wall. They were nice but I feel like they're going to say no to me. I can feel it.
>>106709453I didn't quite think it was over yet, I thought we still had more time and overall I was hopeful in a way, you know? but nope, after seeing that - now I know... it's over
>>106708721reciting ltg quotes in my head to self-soothe
>>106708490>fishermanyou're gonna get bombed by abbos for catching more than 5$ worth of fish
>>106709511>anime poster>upset the manager didn't want to immediately be his friend>negative nancyThey may be dodging a bullet
>>106709453Am I supposed to feel something from that webm
>>106709550kek but any actual advice? I can't really reply much or it gets to a flaming war.
>>106709716tell her she is being difficult and you might have to touch her
>>106709652I don't want to be his friend but there wasn't any real interest in our conversation. If I get brought in, it'll be to downlevel my ass.
>>106709370Yes it is, codemonkey. Work on making sure your boss doesn't decide to replace you with chat-gpt instead of pretending you're the only class of worker that qualifies as tech.>>106709652Anime website.>>106709658You're supposed to be enraged that a woman dressed up a lame tutorial with cheap acting and an unrelated dance.
>>106699451>semi-passive businessretard
>>106709453>See you tomorrow!Yeah, on the streets
>>106709890???
>>106699451solar roadway startup didnt get any 1st round funding huh?
>>106709923That you, Andrew?
>>106710046fuggg
>>106703503>never bothered to teach anythingPractically I never understood what this means. How are older people supposed to teach me, as a zoomer? Besides being teachers/coworkers/my dad nobody is obligated to teach me anything.
>>106709652>negative nancynta but this is literally me, how do i stop being like this?i feel like whenever i go to the office i end up whining about everything to my coworkers (though to be fair i am extremely burnt out)
>>106710117Generally they mean they opted not to train young workers into industries and instead offset responsibility for that onto Colleges, which have a financial incentive to be as easy (i.e ineffective) as possible for tuition money.Also the reason places stopped training isn't boomers' fault, the Supreme Court justices that made it illegal to train based on general aptitude (because black people sucked at IQ tests and thus the entire notion of general aptitude testing for jobs became illegal to protect them) were old enough to be Boomers' grandparents.
I work in FAGMAN and just applied for another FAGMAN and the recruiter pretty much instantly replied to me, has been extremely receptive and I'm already at the interview stage. Is there something I'm missing? Are FAGMANs really this desperate to purge from other FAGMANs?
It's been 35 days since I last had a conversation, in person, with anyone else. Almost all of my work meetings are over Teams (just mics), and I don't have anyone to talk to outside of work. That last conversation I had was my performance review, in which I was told I am doing ok. Though, that was the only time I spoke to my manager in like 6 months.
>>106695674How'd you make "it" ?>>106710438>FAGMANwhats that
>>106710664don't say such things. we're your friends.
>>106710693>what's FAGMANlook in the mirror
so... new thread?
>>106710710I didn't say i don't have friends. Just that I don't have anyone to talk toBut no, I also don't have any friends, unless you count the other anons on this site.
>>106710664I don't have conversations. When someone's having a conversation, I turn around, pretend I'm listening, dry laugh or go "yeah", and then proceed not to say anything until it's time to goTeam meetings and 1-on-1s don't count either cause they're the same thing but through a micIf we're going off that, I haven't spoken to anyone in over 2 years
>>106710847You don't talk to anyone outside of work either?
>Friday afternoon>Stakeholder asks me to retrieve some data using a query on a specific system (never did it before)>query returns blank>ask data support>data supports tells me I need to go to each "data steward" for every table I'm querying and ask for permissions, sends me tons of documentation my way>stakeholder gets impatient>"Anon I need the data ASAP"Why do I have to deal with retarded people?
>>106710891No, not reallyI used to have friends that were basically a cleaner version of /twg/ and liked to gossip about each other's friend groups like a bunch of faggots. I didn't follow, so I haven't talked to them since.I tried reaching out to some high school friends sometime after I graduated college, but they're all doing their own thing, busy in life
>>106710964You sound young. You should fix this or else you'll be approaching 40 and in the same situation, like me. And it's not fun.
>>106699167>that carGuarantee you she is living paycheck to paycheck on a 6 figure salary like pic related>>106699758>everything else is a disasterShe has a great rack as well, and her face is cute enough, but her schizo nails are a turnoff and her wig is awful.>>106705074>hi anon. Here?>>106709511I don't even bother with fagman or any huge company for that matter. Anything over 1k employees really. The extra pay is never worth the extra work you need to put in unless you are a prodigy.>>106710797I'm the one who made this thread. Someone else should do next
>>106711007>3 vacations a year, multiple outings a month and every other possible cost factored in>1.5m house>STILL has money left over to put into savingsthis is average how?
>>106710980I'll think about it.If loneliness were killing me, I think I would have tried harder long ago
>>106711044That is the median American income. If you make $100 less than that you are on welfare.
>>106711054>lonelinessIt's not just the loneliness. It really does fuck with you mentally after years. I know I've become increasingly anxious and paranoid. Especially when around other people... I constantly worry that everyone is watching me and talking about me, and saying to each other that I should kms. It becomes very stressful to be out in public.
im dying. can't stop sweating.
WHERES THE NEW FUCKING THREAD
>>106711526We're all at happy hour.
>>106711526Currently on an incident bridge, or I'd bake
All those who post in the phantom /utwg/ thread will be fired in their sleep on Monday
>>106710958stop posting this image when the content of your post is unrelated to zoomers
>>106711044Are you poor or something?
>page 11>no threadITS OVER FUUUUUUUUUCK
