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>>106706203Can't install linux on emmchelp
intel ME engine, rust-based alternatives to fsf slop, systemd, flatpaks, gnome, and rpm saved linux
>>106706220Artix Chuds lost, Antifa GNOME won.
>>106706220>>106706235I too enjoy lying on the internet.
>>106706215getting io errors, please advise
>>106706203So to be clear there are no linux counter parts that can run Wallpaper Engine files? I found a couple wallpapers that have a built in audio visualizers that were cool but I guess there's no point in looking at them if I can't run them.
>>106706306https://github.com/Almamu/linux-wallpaperengineTry googling
>>1067063511) I know that exists2) I don't own wallpaper engine so I can't use the assets, hence the question.
>>106706306Basically the two best ways would be to just buy Wallpaper Engine and run it through Proton, or use KDE Plasma as your desktop and set a video file as your wallpaper.
Didn't realize old thread was at its end when I sent this.>>106703884For work I use an IDE but at home Vim (well, Neovim) is my default text editor for nearly everything (I'll use Obsidian for some stuff).
AgainRequesting help from fellow /fglt/ anons.I'm adding a RTX 3060 12GB to my pc for ai shit but I don't want to use it for render, just for ai/compute (I use AMD for rendering/output). I'm currently using Debian and it doesn't have the nvidia-headless packages that Ubuntu has specifically for this purpose.Unfortunately I haven't found much info online regarding this and would like some spoonfeed about running nvidia drivers headlessly.Thanks in advance
>>106706549What's the issue?
>>106706609How to install nvidia drivers only for cuda/computing (not render/desktop) under Debian Trixie
>>106706620just install the regular driver. don't plug your display into it.
>>106706639Will try that, thanks
>>106706215>>106706301
is there something like p7zip but maintained?
>>106706742Use Peazip
>>106706742Peazip?
>>106706699Any debug quirk flag I add makes it shit itself even harder
Did they patch glycin yet?
>>106706910Patch in what way? It's still garbage, and Arch enabled it again.
Man, the readme for the dockapps repository sucks.Sure, there was a mention that some of them require setting a certain CFLAGS. I thought you were to run that in the terminal. Nope, apparently what you're supposed to do is modify the makefile. And then others would throw a fit about something pertaining to libdockapp not being found. It seems you're supposed to install it yourself, which the readme makes no mention ofWhen is someone going to host a repository of binaries? The distro's own only hosts a handful of them.
>>106706770>>106706774thanks, but I want only cli. but nevermind, because I just realized the normal 7zip has a linux version, it's just that there is no package for it on fedora, they seem to be moving to it but it's taking them years for some reason.
>>106706939patch to fix the problem it was causing
How do I install my Canon Pixma G3040 printer on Ubuntu? I tried for an hour now.
>>106707103Go to Whisker Menu (start button in the corner) and type Printer.
>>106707124Sure, but it doesn't print anything. I think it doesn't have the drivers. I tried gutenprint but it doesn't have my model. Am I just fucked?
>>106707282try adding it again. my Brother printer needed some fiddling in the Printer program
>>106707315It worked as an IPP printer.
>>106706414I'll just deal with static wallpaper then and enjoy the slight efficiency boost lol
>>106706815sdhci and sdhci_pci.debug_quirks=0x60 allows installing on the emmcthis uses PIO instead of DMA. hope I don't have to use it to run the system because it's slow and cpu heavy
>>106706549>>106706639Solved this by installing nvidia-smi nvidia-driver nvidia-kernel-dkms linux-headers-amd64 libcuda1 nvidia-persistenced nvidia-cuda-toolkitAnd then removing xserver nvidia driver
>>106708322Why did you have to remove it?
>>106708371Just for making sure no other process can use the GPU (xorg)(I have autism)
>>106708381I don't think it's necessary but I consider that a valid reason to do it.
For me it's LMDE
I asked this a while back but got no answer so I'll try again. I'm using split tunneling on Firefox by adding -excludeand it works if I first launch Firefox normally but does not work if I launch a private window without first opening Firefox. So somehow the -exclude flag only works if Firefox is launched normally but the flag is ignored if I start Firefox with a private window. Is there a command that you can add that makes sure the flag is added when you launch a private window?
-exclude
>GrapheneOS of desktop LinuxWhy aren't you using the objectively best and most secure Linux distribution, secureblue?
>>106709698>yet another single tinkertroon fedora fork>pathological containerizationno thanks
>>106709856I can't even imagine how pathetic and sad your life has to be to get this mad over a Linux distribution
>>106709698Build your distribution from source if you want a secure Linux distribution. Don't leave it up to someone else.
>>106709698How is it more secure than Ubuntu?
I need something like https://duck.ai/ frens talking with chat gpt without an account anywhere, you know any similiar sites that aren't super spyware in return? and preferably save history and aren't dumbed down totally. and don't have limits per day like duck.ai
>>106710214How is it more secure than Alpine, Void or Gentoo is what I'd be asking.Call me crazy but I doubt the GrapheneOS creator would be that big on Systemd. They don't use it on Android / GrapheneOS and anything that claims to be the "GrapheneOS of the Linux desktop" shouldn't use it either.At the very least you should be looking to confine the init process at boot but this is very difficult to do:https://forums.whonix.org/t/apparmor-for-complete-system-including-init-pid1-systemd-everything-full-system-mac-policy/8339/480
>>106710293NOTE: That SE Linux (which Fedora ships with) is not sufficient for this task because the profiles are loaded after boot from the root filesystem after the init has already booted. You really need to load them pre-boot in the initramfs.
>>106709942stop sperging faggot it looks bad on you
>>106710293Alpine, Void and Gentoo are not really usable distros for most people's desktops. GrapheneOS isn't just booting you into a terminal and forcing you to compile apks from source. At the end of the day it's just a significantly hardened and secured Android and it doesn't sacrifice usability/ease of use.
>>106710377>Alpine, Void and Gentoo are not really usable distros for most people's desktopsYou could make them usable but I do get that immutable Fedora forks are trendy.
>>106710393>Fedora>immutableOnly tech illiterates think this. Atomic distros aren't immutable.>Alpine, Void and Gentoo>You could make them usableWhat's the point when the end result would require you to add systemd and GNOME/KDE anyway? And at this point you might as well argue against GrapheneOS itself and say people should just use PostmarketOS.
>>106710425>What's the point when the end result would require you to add systemd and GNOME/KDE anyway?Why would you be required to do that? You don't need Systemd. Maybe you'd want to add Udev and Logind since most desktops and apps don't support other device managers or session managers anymore but that's about it.
>>106710448systemd is the de facto standard and a lot of software is written explicitly with it in mind or only tested on systemd environments. There's literally no reason to use anything else outside of autism. And at that point you might as well complain why the distro doesn't use a minimalist wm or why it has a web browser which supports javascript. I guess normie-friendly usability isn't something you consider important?
>>106710591The point is limiting your attack surface and yes, that's an autistic thing to worry about but not when you're a security focused Linux distribution. If you're going to keep it around then at the very least you need to be shipping a full MAC policy for it to limit what it can do.
>>106709698I dont need the extra security, much less at the cost of usability and performance
>>106710254every website which has user history is spywaret. backend developer>>106710925>cost of usability and performancename examples and show benchmarks
why is arch said to be the hardest distro to use and not for beginners at all when gentoo is objectively harder?
>>106711175Because Gentoo is completely irrelevant. Gentoo has less market share among Linux users than Linux did among desktop users 10 years ago.
>>106711175If you assume AUR is part & parcel with Arch, using Gentoo at a competent level is actually easier because you don't have to do any auditing. Idk if that's really true these days because a lot of people never touch AUR.
I thought I've been using GNU/linux since 2010 but it was actually 2012. I'm such a noob
sudo pacman -S nvidia-open steam>Enable Proton on steamIs it really that easy? There has to be something that I'm missing here.
sudo pacman -S nvidia-open steam
>>106711488It's what you typed sir.
I'm running cinnamon and was wondering if I could get gnome file picker thumbnails? I still have the old gtk one
>>106711540about:configwidget.use-xdg-desktop-portal.file-picker -> 1
>>106711575Still doesn't work... i also installed the xdk desktop gnome package, but still showing the gtk one
how do i get unlimited money with linux mint?
>>106711175Gentoo is also a long running joke on here as well, I think ultimately the autists that Gentoo wanted were won over by Arch. I have no idea why because I've never used the system and it kinda stresses me out just thinking about it compared to Ubuntu based distros which I've been on for a while.
>>106711670>get Linux certified by COMPTIA>advertise both as a Linux tutor and a Linux expert>maybe even hit up your local community college for temp positions for tutoring>profit.
>>106706351not him but i'm trying this just now to see if it works, and it doesn't appear to. keeps complaining about missing assets, so it might require some files from an installed copy of wallpaper engine (in addition to the workshop wallpapers)... okay i downloaded a pirated copy to test it and it does indeed need assets from the wallpaper engine program itself as well.
>>106711783gentoo itself was never a joke, telling anyone and everyone to install it is the joke.install gentoo
>>106711783>I think ultimately the autists that Gentoo wanted were won over by Arch. I have no idea whyBecause they couldn't install Gentoo. That's also a long-running joke.
>>106711969You could find that by just looking at the github page in the first or second step if you took 5 seconds to read...>>106712046Doesn't really matter when it ended up being a joke :^)If I'm honest I don't really know much about it other than its supposed to be hard like Arch, so I can't really say if it was or is a joke. Just that Arch seems to have soaked up the user base they were targeting. I honestly think if you have multiple machines you should have multiple different Linux OSes from each of the major branches to be more "well rounded" if that's something you care about.>>106712104True, but let's be real, the autism that goes into Arch's documentation and the amount of its users that actually contribute both programmatically and documentationally is way better than Gentoos is.
>>106712046>mikurok>miku>no miku picturedfake miku os
>>106712219>the autism that goes into Arch's documentation and the amount of its users that actually contribute both programmatically and documentationally is way better than Gentoos is.They don't really have any documentation, that's why. They just have their wiki and that's all they've got.Gentoo has a wiki too, it used to be what the Arch wiki was before one day the server crashed and they didn't have a backup at the time because this was years ago.Gentoo also has a handbook though which is real distro documentation and not a collaborative wiki. It's a really good install guide.
>>106712241>They just have their wiki and that's all they've got.Exactly and its currently the largest and most autistically documented wiki on an linux os ever.>used to be what the Arch wiki was before one day the server crashed and they didn't have a backup at the time because this was years ago.That sucks>Gentoo also has a handbook though which is real distro documentation and not a collaborative wikiI mean Arch does as well, its just incredibly dry and no one reads it since the advent of multiple auto-installers Arch has now.
>>106712263>I mean Arch does as well, its just incredibly dry and no one reads it since the advent of multiple auto-installers Arch has now.Kind of, it's just a locked page on the wiki that nobody can edit and links to other pages on the wiki. There's no real structure to it.Gentoo's by comparison is a proper document. Of course you're right though, nobody reads this because everybody just uses the arch-installer or some other installer nowadays.
Gentoo is abandonware. less and less devs are working on it; the refusal of systemd was the worst and a fatal decision. also, the woke moderators closed the off topic forum.
>>106712219>You could find that by just looking at the github page in the first or second step if you took 5 seconds to read...well i skimmed through it and assumed those assets were the wallpapers themselves, not additional assets that ship with the programs itself
>>106712303They still have lots of developers and regularly get contributions from users on their Github too.They also didn't refuse Systemd, it's a secondary option available to users alongside OpenRC. Both are equally supported.
>>106712227lol, i made that name up a bit before hatsune miku/vocaloid existed, so there's no correlation
>>106712311they are hostile to systemd, stop lying. systemd being an option only to avoid further drama.
>>106712322They're hostile to Systemd being the ONLY option. They don't hate it, they even stopped developing their pointless Eudev fork and now use Systemd's Udev even on OpenRC.
>>106712318>throws pic related at youBOOOOOO!!!!
>>106712351damn miku you're looking cool
>>106712581They sell them in Baghdad when there is a stoning.
>>106711131>usabilityxwayland is disabled by default>performanceuses a different malloc, will translate into more time to allocate memory since the default implementation is autistically tuned for performance in a task where every microsecond counts, possibly a somewhat higher ram consumption. All of this can translate into stuttering in games if this is easier to understand for you. There are extra checks as well and that isnt free>older moronix benchmarkshttps://www.phoronix.com/review/arch-linux-kernels-2023/4expect a 5 to 20% cost depending on the task/hardware just for using the hardened kernelthere's a reason nobody uses it unless they have a good reason to do sothis doesnt even factor the cost of flatpak isolation, which affects cpu bound tasks as well by similar amountsnone of this matters if you do nothing computationally intensive with your pc though
WMLive comes with mate-terminal by default. It has a slider for transparency, but it doesn't do anything. I also installed gnome-terminal and it doesn't even have a transparency slider, unlike on Ubuntu. And Picom didn't seem to help in so far as binding transparency support "built in"For giggles, I also found that installing mate-terminal on Ubuntu makes for really gitchy transparency, but not with Ubuntu's own terminal.What gives?
>>106712708i wouldnt be able to tell you why it doesnt work if you've enabled transparency in the picom config, it does have a couple of backends you could try iirc, assuming you arent using wayland. If you are then picom wont do shit and the compositor implementation is just fucked.rxvtu has fake transparency if you want it, but it'll just show the wallpaper and not the contents of overlapping windows, x11 only though
>>106706203Recommend me a good terminal game to learn command line
>>106712871there's overthewire, complete the bandit levels
Sex with XUE!Right in the RATHOLE!!!
>>106712955tobacco smoke might be best i can do
>>106712988>not chewing a fat lip of grizzly and spittin in the condensation pits behind the server racksngmi. into the camps with (((them))) you go.
>>106712771>assuming you arent using wayland. If you are then picom wont do shit and the compositorIf they're using Wayland then there is no standard implementation to make a blurred or transparent surface.There is ext-background-effect which is an attempt at standardising a KWin specific protocol but its standardisation is ongoing:https://wayland.app/protocols/ext-background-effect-v1https://www.phoronix.com/news/Wayland-Background-Effect
>>106713139i was thinking more like natalie than bear
>>106711661You need to completely close firefox and re-open it.But if this doesn't work, then try using the Flatpak version of Firefox.>>106711670>install Linux Mint>Mint infinite money>profit
What cures distro hopping?
>>106713857Learning to love Arch
>>106713857installing gentoo
mint xfceanybody knows why my wallpaper gets replaced with this blue-ish, cloudy, mountain background whenever I close/open my lid and the lockscreen is triggered?it happens for a split second and the lockscreen is actually still using the default mint wallpaper, I have no idea where this blue/cloud/mountain wallpaper is.
>>106713885got it, it's xviewer-wallpaper.jpg at .local/sharewhat is it? I'll just replace it but I don't know why this is happening
>>106713885>mintWhy do you guys still use a distro run by incompetents?https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=235https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2994
>>106713857Realizing that most distros are more or less the same and having some basic understanding of your needs for the few small differences.
Is it a bad idea to spit my main SSD drive into two partitions? One encrypted, one unencrypted. Or is it better to just get a different drive altogether?
>>106714084Typically the drive isn't aware of encryption one way or the other. It's just an extra layer of processing the OS does on top.
>>106714147I'm honestly more concerned with file corruption and overall drive safety/health.I've heard people say to stay away from multiple partitions on a single drive in general, but I'm not sure if that's just fear mongering.
>>106714185The drive isn't aware of partitions either. It's just block addresses and data. NVMe namespaces are a thing, but nobody uses more than one outside enterprise.
>>106714253Got it, thanks. I like the idea of having a small part of my drive be inaccessible to the rest of the system unless I manually unencrypt it.Could probably be done it with encrypted zip files or KDE Vaults or whatever as well. But having a separate encrypted partition just sounds the nicest and easiest.
>>106706203I left the system on sleep for 8 hours while I slept. Now my memory is almost full. This keeps happening. Is this a KDE or OS problem in your opinion?
>>106714084you buy 133 class performance and then encrypt it
>>106711670you get real wiz with comfyUI simps throw money at your gens
>>106714366>Paying money for gensloooooool
riddle me this.>PC sometimes doesn't boot>usually takes a few attempts>same issue regardless of hardware I swap out (I can't swap mobo or CPU sadly because I justswitched to AM5) or if I put in a windows or Linux drive to boot off ofBoot LED stays illuminated and nothign happens after. No post.Can you just point me to how I would start to troubleshoot this? the failed boots don't show up in journalctl for me
>>106714501no stability issues once booted though. Works fine, performs in stress tests as expected
>>106709698You mean qubes right? Not whatever shitty meme hobby fedora distro this is.
real question here, which one objectively sucks more, xorg or wayland? because I've seen both sides claiming each other is a bloat but as an midwit I just can't know for sure which side is right
>>106714554Xorg of course.Wayland doesn't have a completely broken security model that requires running compositers and screen lockers as separate processes and fails to even lock your screen if you have a context menu open.Wayland is not perfect though (it still needs more protocol support and things like automation and accessibility are not as good as under X11), but architecturally it is better.
>>106714501That's what I thought first after switching to AM5, but it was just that the RAM training takes some time. It's not done every boot, next time just let it go for some minutes.
>>106712322They support systemd more than they support openrc these days. Why is it always tech illiterate retards obsessed with making up stuff about things they have zero knowledge about?
>>106714016The tech illiterate bazzite shill doesnt realize how stupid he looks making this post.
>>106714554Wayland sucks more for now until things improve.
>>106714554wayland > xorg, for my usecase. So xorg sucks more.
>>106714669ram training should be indicated via the specific LED (it does that for a short time like it does on succesful boots). it's just the boot LED that's illuminated. I have let it sit for up to an hour with no change. fans spinning LED on, nothing else
>>106714964well, that's something else then.
>>106713857Universal Blue distros
>>106714501just wait till memory optimization runs this can take 2-3000 seconds? no beeps?
>>106714501Sounds like memory retraining issues. Is your BIOS up to date? Some boards are known to take a while on AM5.Repeated retraining usually means the previous training was too aggressive and the memory failed to operate so the board has to retrain. That can happen more with shitty RAM.What motherboard and RAM?
>>106714338I'm on KDE 6.4.4 right now and I don't have any issues. My uptime is over 4 days. The only memory leak I have is the web browser (LibreWolf, probably Firefox related) which I have to close once a week because otherwise it eats up over 6GB RAM because I never close it.
>>106714501>>106715010I thought I had the latest Bios but they're releasing at a fast pace because it's such a new board it seems. I'll update and check what happends.should I touch expo? I've heard in some instances it's more stable in than leaving it off
>>106714338There's no way to tell from the info you provided.>mem total 14809That seems a bit low for what I assume is 16GiB of RAM. Reduce the iGPU initial memory reservation in BIOS, the total shared VRAM is not limited by the initial value, it's a waste of RAM to have it higher than the default 128/256MB (especially if you also have a dGPU). Beyond that look into reducing the amount of RAM reserved for kernel crashes (crashkernel=x kernel argument).
if I copy my old harddrive to a new desktop will it just work or do I have to reinstall linux and all teh configs on the new hardware?
>>106715175it never works basically you need external storage for files and settings and make clean install at every distrohop
I am on Thumbleweed openSUSE but I can't zoom in on KDE like I remember being able to do on Kubuntu. I have KDE 6.45 or something. Am I behind a bit? It's a rolling distro
>>106715230The keyboard shortcut should be>hold the menu key>hit the "+" keyBut it's possible that OpenSUSE changed keyboard shortcuts. Some distros change the default shortcuts.
>>106715320>>106715320dude im zoomed in so much now how do i get out? XD also i guess this means i have the updated KDE but it was just weird since i didn't get the "Welcome to KDE" introduction
>>106715330> how do i get out? "menu" + "-" to zoom out, or "menu" + "0" to reset the zoom>>106715330>didn't get the "Welcome to KDE" introductionI think OpenSUSE has its own, no?
>>106715344>I think OpenSUSE has its own, no?yea but it doesn't introduce you to KDE, it's just a screen with some shortcuts to openSUSE sites
>>106715175how do you intend to "copy" your hard drive?
>>106715353Fair enough. I guess they didn't want multiple popups to show up when the user installs the distro, since it could be seen as spamming/nagging. (obviously, they definitely want to show their own welcome screen)>>106715391I assume he either wants to transfer his hard drive, or create a system image and restore it.
Thinking about trying Endeavor OS over Mint on an old laptop. Is it as hard to run and maintain as people say it is?
>>106715436Not really. If you know anything about using Arch then you should be fine.
>>106715452I’m pretty new to Linux overall. I’ve used it off and on for over a decade but never stuck to it. I was pretty good at optimizing Windows but it got to a point where I had to go for good
>>106715436it's not hard to maintain arch, it's just sometimes tedious and not something most people want to do
>>106715212It works if you know what you're doing. If you don't then use something like Clonezilla.
>>106714554It depends on how broken your drivers and software are. Mailbox V-sync on Wayland 'feels' nicer generally.
>>106715436no especially on endeavour
I'm a complete noob. Used debian for three months and now arch for six.Are the threads about how Linux doesn't work/requires tinkertrannying just Mac/Windows shills? I've never encountered an issue that wasn't solvable in 1/10th of the time that it takes to install windows 11 (and click past all the ads). Debian with cinnamon just worked, had to mess around with Nvidia drives for 5 min to get gaems to work. Installing arch was a breeze, on KDE everything worked out of the box. I decided to try hyprland, modified my config for 15 minutes and it fulfills all my needs. I plug in a printer, it works, I plug in my ultra wide monitor, it works. Meanwhile, my main desktop with windows refuses to acknowledge my ultra wide monitor and doesn't let me change the resolution from 1920x1080p, was a fucking nightmare to setup and had all sorts of issues. Wtf?
>>106713857macOS
>>106715819>Wtf?Pajeetsoft.
>>106715819some people just use computers in a retarded way. >what do you mean i shouldn't archive my emails in the recycle bin?i imagine most of the people who say it doesn't work are trying really hard to do something the wrong way.i haven't used nvidia on linux in 3 years but it was a genuinely horrible experience so i can't really blame people for complaining about that
>>106713857That's norma and natural and you should be enjoying the journey before finding a place you can finally call home, until maybe they fuck it up and you're back on the trail again.
I switched from pop os to Opensuse but my PC on opensuse is called Pop os still... how tf do i change my PC name?
>>106716220It might be getting its name from your router or access points DHCP server.
What taskbar/panel has something similar to Windows jump list? I want to pin files and folders to the app launcher and right click the launcher icon to access.
I want to start using Linux only because I seen some command line to do lists and other programs or whatever and they look very cool but I want my Linux to be focused only on the command line like I don't want to have be clicking around on things and using my mouse a lot what would word keywords should I be researching so I can understand how to make my Linux like command line focused like this?
>>106716288KDE Plasma is most similar to that
>>106716386Keywords:>CLI>TUI
>>106715819I mean, you yourself are admitting that you had to maintain (tinker with) your OS. Some distributions require no tinkering at all, some very little, and some a lot. And this is not always a bad thing since some distros are literally designed to be manually configured.The only reason people complain about Linux maintenance/tinkering is because newcomers have no experience with it at all. Meanwhile they've already learned how to deal with, or at least ignore, the problems they have on Windows.Comparatively, MacOS isn't really as shit as Windows is when it comes to overall stability of the OS. The difference is, people who use MacOS don't even think about Linux at all since they're generally happy with it. Windows, on the other hand, is so shit that Windows users are constantly thinking about an alternative to their current experience. Be it Linux itself, or even just "debloat" scripts and a bunch of 3rd party software.>>106716386Every Linux distribution ships with a terminal emulator where you can do all your command line shit in.What I assume you're looking for is probably any distro which ships with a tiling window manager, or a very minimalist stacking window manager. And from there on out it's up to you to discover which CLI software you want/need.You can try CachyOS, just make sure you select "Hyprland" as your desktop during the install process.Or you can go balls deep and try NixOS where the whole distro is configured in config files and in the terminal.
>>106716238What kind of retarded OS would change its hostname based on a DHCP reply? That makes no sense.
>>106716607Any managed device, e.g in corporations, etc. The DHCP server can assign the hostname to the device and the device respects that. I think you can still override it by expiring the lease on the DHCP server and then changing the hostname locally, then the DHCP client will tell the DHCP server about its hostname the next time it requests a lease and the DHCP server will remember that.
QRD on all these new glycin and bwrap processes on my system I don't like it
>>106716730Are you using Flatpaks? Bubblewrap (Bwrap) is the sandbox used by Flatpak.
>>106716783Yes I'm using flatpaks, but these processes are spawned by firefox, thunar which are not flatpaks?
>>106716220What do you mean "my PC is called PopOS"? You set up your device name during the install process. Or are you saying "PopOS" was auto-filled there and you didn't notice it when you were installing SUSE?>>106716607All of them?>>106716802Bubblewrap is just the mechanism Flatpak uses for sandboxing. It's not exclusively used by Flatpak. Any process can spawn a bubblewrapped process.
>>106716843I couldn't name my PC at all during the set-up process, it just became Pop-OS
>>106716730GNOME's image loading library loads images in a sandbox now.
>>106716462>>106716461Thanks friends
>secure boot enabled>cant install nvidia driver without disabling it>cant disable it because bios has password
>>106716970Sign the NVIDIA driver instead
What is the secret sauce of Ubuntu Font rendering? Every other distro and DE just has shit fonts compared to it.
>>106717115Literally just good fontconfig hinting based on the upstreamed Infinality patches that used to be patented which is some distros like Fedora used the garbage greyscale hinting instead.
>>106714554Xorg sucks for me as multimonitor and fullscreening is terrible on it while on Wayland both are absolutely seamless. Not like Wayland isn't without issues either, for example window placement isn't that good on it but those are just papercuts compared to Xorg.
>>106714844because openrc devs and users have disappeared over the years. gentoo failed.
>>106717152Also Ubuntu uses their own Ubuntu font as an interface font instead of GNOME's Cantarell or whatever they've switched to these days (I think they've replaced some of their old fonts now but I'm not sure. I don't use GNOME)
>>106717180OpenRC is still actively maintained and developed. It's mostly feature complete though. Sometimes it gets new features (it recently got user services which is a big feature many people have wanted) but it's not some large software suite like Systemd. Init is supposed to be simple. If you need an army of developers to maintain init then you've failed.
>>106716220Change your hostname. The old hostname got picked up from DHCP
>>106717167>Xorg sucks for me as multimonitor and fullscreening is terrible on itFunny, because none of my wine games can properly capture the mouse cursor in windowed or fullscreen mode on wayland so the mouse keeps slipping away to another monitor. It's unplayable, which makes wayland unusable to me because I'm not going to bother switching display server every time I want to play a game.
>>106716970give it back
>>106717115The Ubuntu font just looks nice.>>106717248>I'm not going to bother switching display server every time I want to play a game.Don't gamers launch games in gamescope nowadays?
>>106717317Not me because I'm not a filthy fucking animal.
>>106717317>Don't gamers launch games in gamescope nowadays?gamescope is a wayland compositor, i'm not sure what you're getting at
>>106717339It's a nested Wayland compositor. Although it can run directly via its DRM backend its commonly ran from within an existing Wayland session. It solves the issue of multi-monitors not playing well by presenting games with a single fake monitor.
>>106716970You'll have to look at signing the kernel with your own keys but i dont think you can do that without bios access
>>106717202In my experience openrc still has wierd niche issues like the boot process will hang when trying to mount nfs shares if you use dhcp for your networking
>>106717248>none of my wine games can properly capture the mouse cursor in windowed or fullscreen mode on wayland so the mouse keeps slipping away to another monitor.Besides that I've seen a game that was able to do it properly (and it's a small indie game of course), yes, that is a bother. I found the easy solution to move the other monitor a bit away while I'm playing the game. Not perfect, but sericeable.
>>106717317The Ubuntu font itself is gross, I feel my masculinity being drained whenever I see it.
>>106717984For me it's IBM Plex Sans Condensed, i.e. the only good thing the company has made in 20 years.
taskbar/panel at the bottom feels so weird after having in on top for so long it's actually temptingbut I see this is a huge waste of eye movement
>>106716220Change it in /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts and reboot
Sup, tards. Haven't followed Red Hat thingy in a while, are they still bad? I want to install something on my not so old laptop for mom and it's either Fedora or Debian. And I like Fedora more but I don't want to sit on Red Hat stuff. Am I paranoidal schizo like all of you and in the end Red Hat isn't that bad or fuck them?
>>106718262>mom>Fedora or DebianThe real choice is Aurora or Ubuntu/Mint.>RedHatRedHat isn't really as involved in Fedora as you think.
>>106717115its some environment variable apparently
>>106718262If you like fedora then just install fedora for them. Make sure you get rpmfusion working though.
>>106718262Whatever you're familiar with, because you have to support it. None of them have magic sauce that makes systemd/Wayland/Linux old lady proof.
>>106718294> UbuntuFuck no.I mean, it's for mom, sure, I can still check up on system, she probably won't even try to update it by herself so ease of updates does not matter.>>106718371>>106718378I mean I like both, that's the problem. Debian has more flexible installer while Fedora probably still enforces btrfs compression and zram out of the box. But then Fedora is more polished and modern overall. Debian is there to be stable and al that shit but APT is so dated and they couldn't get default gnome 48 font right out of the box.Also looking at server side too. Maybe I'll get myself homelab soon and thinking AlmaLinux. No autostart after install policy of Red Hat distros is cool imo.I always rooted for Debian cuz its always there and always good for anything but Red Hat family looking super good last years. From technical perspective that is, from corporate bullshit perspective I used to hate them. But damn, shit is so good, I wanna stop and just switch.
>>106706203>/fglt/'s website:>https://fglt.nl>>Fediverse (Pleroma, Mastodon, GNU Social, etc)>>/fg/lt/ also has its own instance on the Fediverse. You are most welcome to join and shitp—err, converse with us.You might want to remove that, whoever is in charge of the site. That instance doesn't resolve.
>>106714338I'd say Kernel. Linux is notorious for not having a good sleep mode. It's gotten "better," but I still wouldn't trust sleep/hibernate modes on Linux.
>>106714554X is older and hasn't had an update in years. Everyone is moving over to Weyland.It's not necessarily "which sucks more" but "which is active," and Weyland won that war.
>>106718565>Linux is notorious for not having a good sleep modethe fuck am I even reading here? I'm not sure how MacOS behaves, but Linux is significantly better when going to sleep than Windows.
>>106718582Actively shit versus stagnantly okay. I choose the latter.
>>106718543https://dns.google/query?name=fglt.nl
Is it a stupid idea to "delete" things by moving them to /tmp just to avoid shooting myself in the foot by accidentally deleting something I should not?
>>106718809Sounds kinda retarded. Use the Rubbish Bin? 'gio trash ..' in scripts
>>106714554Unless you must have mixed refresh rate displays or want meme features like HDR, use X11. Wayland is not fit for purpose badly engineered garbage that will have issues you wouldn't have on X. Search wayland site:protondb.com for evidence.
windowsfag here. which DE just werks?
>>106719113mint, you can literally just google it. If you consider yourself computer literate, even if you've never done a linux OS before, try one of the Ubuntu flavors if you'd like. The learning curve isn't that different.
>>106719153>which DE>mint or ubuntuDouble retard.
>>106719167head empty moment, but I think the best desktop is the L shaped desk from Wayfair :^)I also like the xfce De
>>106719113Xfce, LXQt or MATE. KDE obviously has more features but also more bugs and depending on the distro it might take a while to get those fixed
>>106719326retard anon here, I actually didn't like the look of KDE Plasma, I prefer more retro looks to my DEs and the apple-like aesthetic really put me off.
>>106719326I really wanted to like LXQt but something about it is just... Not nice... I can't really put my finger on it.
>>106719113GNOME is the most polished one and used by most corporations in linux for professional products, the only real big alternative is KDE Plasma but it's a tradeoff with it being much more powerful out of the box but much less polished, and not really used by anyone except for SteamOS. Rest is pretty much meme DEs, you could give stuff like XFCE maybe a shot if you're into a super LTS DE that never changes. As for distros I'd say Fedora/openSUSE/Ubuntu are the only big distros worth using for a desktop home user
>>106719113>DEKDE>distroAurora, or Bazzite if you want Steam and Waydroid pre-installed.>>106719341KDE has dozens of retro themes, even almost exact copies of Windows 2k/XP/7 themes.The default look of a DE is irrelevant, they can almost all be themed very easily. The problem with anything that isn't KDE or at least GNOME is that it's effectively a hobby/toy-level DE with significantly fewer users and developers.
>>106719113Xfce is the default but you can try KDE too.Everything else is garbage, not worth trying.
>>106719460Doesn't KDE also eat resources like crazy? Why run it when I can run an older or less flashier DE, theme and/or customize it until I'm happy with that and take the slight performance boost?>>106719464That's how I feel about GNOME and I really wanted and tried to like GNOME but ultimately it's for people who are coming from the Apple end of the equation.
>>106719479I don't know why people say gnome is like apple.It's like android.
>>106718526Personally i wouldnt ever recommend anyone to use gnome
>>106719113I agree with everyone else saying XFCE you just have to make sure you mess around with the taskbar first because the stock defaults are shit and only the ricing distros like xubuntu, manjaro, endeavouros etc tries to fix it
>The urge to do a fresh install and only use flatpaks and nothing else so I don't dirty up my system with pajeet plebian native packageshow do you cope with this bros
>>106719438GNOME being the most polished turd doesnt stop the fact its still a turd.
>>106719519All you have to do is right click, add whisker menu, move it all the way to the left and delete the default applications menu.
>>106719527Idk, I try to think of DEs from a perspective of what would I install on my dad's PC and expect him to complain the least. Ubuntu LTS's implementation of GNOME is very straight forward, it won't bug out, it won't change much for years, you have a classic dock with icons and eveything is big, easily readable, not overwhelming so any boomer can use it and not feel attacked by his 'puter. If you are not a normalfag then you shouldn't be using a DE anyways, dwm and hyprland exist for a reason
>>106719494Really? Maybe it's the little bubble bar in the middle that most reminds me of Apple, either way I didn't like it and I won't argue that it looks like android. If I wanted my computer to look and act like a phone I'd just buy a tablet or a phone.
>>106719565It's kind of weird they go for this design. Android absolutely sucks to use with mouse and keyboard.
>>106719479>Doesn't KDE also eat resources like crazy?KDE can be used on devices with 2GB RAM and dual core CPUs. So, no. Anything eats as many resources as you set it up to. Even Xfce, which is supposed to be usable on devices with 500MB RAM, consumes 1.2GB RAM on Linux Mint.Not to mention that a DE plays almost no role in the overall performance of the system. That is, unless you're seriously lacking RAM or using a single core system. And last time I checked it's not 2004 anymore. >Why run it when I can run an older or less flashier DEBecause those are significantly less functional. Ideally you'd try to use the best product before downgrading your experience to match your shitty, 20 year old hardware. And if the anon had limited hardware, he'd probably mention it.By that logic he should just use IceWM.>>106719498GNOME is genuinely fine for people who are not used to desktops. Most people nowadays don't even own a computer or laptop and just use a smartphone for everything. If such a person buys a laptop/PC for something, then having a smartphone-like UI is a huge plus.>>106719573Android is made first and foremost for touch screens. GNOME is actually made with keyboard shortcuts in mind, so despite looking like a hybrid between Android and MacOS it's actually usable on desktops.
>>106719565They're lifting the app designs straight from mac os. Btw, the old gnome settings app also looked like the old mac settings app
>>106719638And now the new mac settings looks like kde settings...
>>106719657>Enshittening intensifies
>>106706203LXQt or XFCE if you had to choose 1 and why?
>>106719113kde, gnome, ... they are big ever-changing and never finished projects. Meanwhile Openbox + tint2 just work; they are completed and bug free (most bugs are from poorly coded apps which don't respect standards).
>>106720028Xfce, it feels much better to use and it's less ugly by default on most distrosLXQt looks and behaves like a janky Chinese knockoff.
>>106720028have used neither but looking at the repositories, lxqt development seems to be much more active. most xfce updates are about language translations.