Australia is doing a similar thing too and now this. the world is headed towards extinction at this rate
>>106707524>illegals won't break this law!I hate that idiot
>>106707524Civilians are way too lenient. Social media has castrated them. World needs more riots but covid passes proved that most won't do jack shit to protect their own safety.
>>106707524>The solution to this problem we created is to give us more power.Many such cases.
>>106707524Did "Think of the children!!!!" finally stop working?
So instead of doing a job that nobody else wants for almost no money immigrants are supposed to just live on nothing.How the fuck does this solve anything? There'll be at least some who turn to shit like drug dealing who wouldn't have done so otherwise.Either increase funding that actually helps deporting illegals or give them some perspective.
>>106707524The ride never ends
>>106707661*americans, australians and british are too lenientthe rest of the world actually has spines.
>>106707661Be more like France, we had riots last Thursday and another riot is planned next Thursday (reason unknown we just like doing it)
>>106707524>built on change, not divisionWhat does this mean?
>>106707524>Think of the poor children, or the illegals, whatever works for us.
>>106708139Aren't those riots because of retirement and pension shit? The day France of all places riots over immigrants will be beautiful.
>>106708221"Stop noticing that immigrants are rapists and give us more control"
>>106707524> import niggers> niggers do crimes> punish the population with more control and spying> repeat
>>106707538>>106708101Did you also say this when Trump did his Palantir thing? Or do you just have the Starmer derangement syndrome?
>>106708526how did they do that?
>>106708120
>>106707524What's happening to the Anglosphere? They're retarded. They've always been retarded.
>>106709338Yeah for sure it's USA problem, not UK, AU and NZ. Where are USA digital IDs?
>>106709338
>>106709363why so sensitive
>>106707524What a lying piece of shit. Omfg. Imagine people will actually believe this is done to curb migration lmfao
>>106708128>that nobody else wantspeople want the jobs, they just won’t work for peanutsyou don’t need digital id for any of this though. systems like e-verify already exist in the US, they just aren’t required to be used by law because both the government and corporations love displacing and destroying american lives even when they pretend to be hard on immigration
>>106708128>nobody wants jobsIm not working minimum wage for a job that demands i pass multiple code tests and demands i appear in-office in the most expensive cities on the planetfuck you id rather be just poor than poor and abused
I dont think anyone is worried about illegal immigration, the whole lot of jeets and africans there are all legal arent they
>>106709284Do you always deflect to other shabbos goy crimes when people call out your personal favorite shabbos goy for his crimes?
>>106707524Kier is the chosen onehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsbxAsdR0QI
The biggest problem now is that a lot of these immigrants are legal and still stealing lots of jobs and still not integrating with the culture of the host country.
>>106707524Anglos are and always have been the globohomo faggot race
Wow isn't it weird that this one random Pakistani guy has 40 different jobs all over the midlands, these immigrants are build different desu
>>106708221small microprocessors requite procedural code and some don't even have a DIV instruction
It was only a matter of time
>>106709008Government tried to take some public holidays from us, so we got the prime minister fired. We got a new one two weeks ago, maybe the current riots are a continuation of all that. Also one of our former presidents just got jailed. Frenchies will be very mad next Thursday, hope my college doesn't burn again
You kinda have to get used to the idea of total digital control if you want any meaningful change in any country.Illegal immigrants stayed here because it was hard for eu governments to track their movement. They always have 5 different identities and somehow manage to slip through the cracks. How do you think the ice is doing it in the us? They've got palantir, they know everything about everyone and the EU is also looking to either work with palantir too or find their own unique alternative to it.And Kei Stürmer is basically accelerating this for the uk. I don't believe this would be any different if nigel or whoever else were in control.
>>106707524the purpose of this is to attach punishments to your digital ID card. For example, if you are a racist, you will be barred from working.
>>106707538Explain exactly how this law could be broken
>>106710087You sell your digital Id on ebay.You scam a grandma for her digital Id.
>creates an illegal immigration problem>the only solution is that digital surveillance program we've always wantedhuhcrazy how thinks work out!
>>106707524There's an easier way to solve the immigration problem that doesn't involve invasive "digital IDs".
>>106707524Commonwealth piggybacking on immigration populism to smuggle massive surveillance,
>>106709284>Did you also say this when Trump did his Palantir thing?Yes.You leftoids keep pretending that your made up enemy is the same as you.Drumpf tards didn't take the vax, while Trump shilled it. And they want the Epstein files. While leftoids only started to want them after Trump refused them. They don't care at all about elites fucking children, they didn't care during four years of Biden, they only care now because of their TDS.MAGA tards are indeed against Palatir.Can you imagine that? Someone who actually disagrees with the politician he voted for! Totally unimaginable for you.
>>106709363in the nsa database. why would they need to involve you in the whole thing?
Starmer isn't actually doing it to curb illegal migration.He's doing it because he's an authoritarian dickhead of the Labour right, installed by Blue Labour figures, JLM, LFI & Labour Together. While Maurice Glasman hates him now, he pushed for him to be elected during the "antisemitism crisis".Starmer's doing it because it's something he can use to drive "growth". It gives them room to push austerity elsewhere, cutting benefits on the disabled (failed in July, 2nd run coming). It's completely ideological. Right wing press and social media might tell you Starmer's a socialist but there's not a democratic socialist bone in his body, he's farther right than the SDP (Lib dem, splinter from labour in the 80's), the conservatives and some of his MPs are now to the right of reform.Starmer wants digital ID because like Tony Blair, he can say that he's modernising, while giving the money to private companies. Jobs for knobs. Will likely go to Palantir or someone else, if you trace the money back once it reaches implementation: don't be surprised if you find someone from Blue Labour, LFI, JLM or Labour Together.The right wing press give him such an easy ride because they're funded by Israel, absolutely unreal.Why would someone spend so much political capital while also polling the lowest of any PM? Ideological; for the man who claims to be above ideology.Welcome to the new world: your voice is irrelevant. Bet you regret caving to the culture wars after occupy, now.
>>106711361>Welcome to the new world: your voice is irrelevant.It's the UK. I don't think the ordinary person's voice has ever been relevant, at any point in history. The oligarchy is in charge and always has been
>illegalNo sir, I’m worried about the legal immigration too
>>106710194His proposed push on this as solving the immigration issue doesn't pass its own logic either.People in the souf are upset that migrants are working illegally while their asylum claims are being processed, working at delivero, just eat etc. The gig economy.Starmer's pushing for them to run stricter checks on employees. That should solve it, right?His idea is you'll need this to get a job, while you can already produce a birth certificate, passport, driving license, utility bills, naturalisation certificate you also require an NI (national insurance) number to work legally.The NI number is distributed by the DWP, the checks are strict, they check for forgeries on your documents in house, not got one? You're not getting a legal job, you can't be taxed.It doesn't stop people working off the books at all.People who are illegal will still work cash in hand at farms, factories etc. The government pushed for austerity for the last 15 years, Starmer's continuing it so they can't do spot checks on employee records.>>106708128For the people who are worried about crime, it's an option but they already work cash in hand anyway. The system's threadbare.>Either increase funding that actually helps deporting illegals or give them some perspective.Or, they could stop fucking around with austerity, fund local services, government, have spot checks like we had pre-2010 and they actually hire people at the home office to process asylum applications, rejecting or approving, issuing NI numbers rather than spending it all on a private company renting hotels while they "deal with the backlog".It's the ideological commitment to spending nothing while refusing to raise taxes that's the cause of this.They can't afford to increase funding to deport people without raising taxes. It has to happen.
>>106707524>Australia is doing a similar thing tooWe've had the MyGov system for almost a decade now, dummy. What's coming in now is age verification for social media (supposedly this can be bypassed at the DNS level since it's implemented by ISPs but who knows for sure yet).
>>106707524>So yeah now that we've invited all these illegals in to take your jobs, houses, health benefits and have them rape your daughters and stab you, here's a punishment we've devised for law abiding citizensAnd Brits will roll over and take it. Followed by Amerimutts. Then every white country. There is seriously no place left for white people.
>>106711402>It's the UK. I don't think the ordinary person's voice has ever been relevant, at any point in historyThere was a stint where it was almost there for workers in the 60's, 70's and 80's but stamped out swiftly.Union participation in the 60's was around 40%, 45% in the 70's was 49% almost half in 1979/90 when Thatcher went in.After the miner's strikes and regulations, dropped to 35% in the 90's and is only around 22% today.From half the workforce in unions, with the ability to strike, for collective bargaining etc in 1979/80 to just slightly over 1 in 5 today.MP's vote by the whip, FPTP keeps the voting public suppressed, everyone is safe for a 5 year term. Offices occupied by careerists.Sad state of affairs desu.
>>106708120No. It might just be on a very temporary cool down, or being stacked with this with another strategy, for extra effectiveness.
>>106708120that argument went out of the window the moment they started giving kids internet access before they could even read
>>106711619>that argument went out of the window the moment they started giving kids internet access before they could even readNo it didn't.The parents who give their kids internet access, using a tablet to rear them are the primary supporters of think of da kiddies.I don't think you realise just how much these people push back on the concept of the responsibility of parenting their child. They argue that all child safety defaults should be on by default, that they should never have to lift a finger and the state should ensure their childrens' safety.Is it hypocritical? Absolutely.They don't care. They don't want to be called bad kids and if you call them bad parents they'll lash out, you're a creepy sex weirdo who'd diddle their kiddie.Religious and pressure groups use it, then the bad parents join in and grant them legitimacy. The parents don't have to get anything in return other than avoiding the label of being a bad parent.
>>106708128>So instead of doing a job that nobody else wants for almost no money immigrants are supposed to just live on nothing.What they're supposed to do is go home.
>>106709892He's done something on legal immigrants by raising the income requirement for a visa significantly and requiring work visa jobs pay at the same level they would pay a local. It used to be fine to underpay them to undercut the natives.It's not enough in my opinion, but he has done something. Agree that legal immigration is actually the bigger problem and "the boats" is such an overused smokescreen.
>>106709284you should murder suicide your 5 closest friends
>>106707524We told you for years it was coming. You called us schizo
>>106707524The goal of WEF 2030 is reduction of human population. Because WEF sees humans a threat to their governance. Why do you think half the teens suddenly want to castrate themselves? Why do you think bill gates funded Covid VIRUS AND covid vaccine at the same time while making billions off of it? Why do you think they're importing millions of migrants to displace the functioning society and destroying the economy?We may make fun of the cult of trannyism, but thats just one head of the cult of the extinstionist movement hydra.The ideology is VHEMT is baked into reddit and 4chan mod teams that delete any talk about censorship and ban you. They have castrated themselves and their minds.
>>106713471Soon as you notice the death cult, you see it being implemented everywhere
>>106707524>illegalWill boomers EVER realize that the problem is LEGAL immigration?
>>106713548Illegal migration is the problem. They eat up all the welfare and reduce the wage for bottom working class, the 4chan class. The legal migration is usually tax paying, net positive economic contributing member of society who pay for the welfare of the bottom Americans.
>>106713591All immigration is a problem. All immigrants take jobs, all immigrants reduce wages, increase housing costs, burden public services, dilute voter power, fracture labour power, and destroy culture and cohesion.They are awful, selfish people who benefit only the rich.
>>106713932In the US legal migration is a net positive job creation controbutor. Something like 60-70% of tech jobs are created by legal migrants in the US.This stat would be different in Europe cause Europe has mass migration from Africa/Middle East that eats all the legal jobs and are non-contributing. But since good chunk of American legal migrants have background checks and have proper working skills, this brings up American job industry
>>106713940Aren't all the CS majors in the USA complaining about unemployment?
>>106708139French riots dont accomplish jacque shit.
>>106710087>throw passport overboard>get to immigration center>tell them who you are>they take you at face value and issue a britbong ID card>use britbong ID card to make digital ID>bam>you're now a legal immigrant and the racist anti-immigrant can't say anything because you're a legit british citizenI really want to talk to a politician one of these days and ask them why are they so retarded?
>>106713940Job creation is not a useful metric because there is no consideration on how a job is "created" and for what purpose it is created.It's like the old economic student joke about the two men paying each other to eat cow shit.
>>106707524The articles trying to sell me on this are saying most of the rest of Europe do this anyway and we're the weirdos for not having universal IDMuch truth to this eurobros?
>>106713984>The articles trying to sell me on thisHasn't stopped illegals in Europe so I dont get their point
>>106707524Question: will this protect the children?
>>106714006Well yeah, all the illegals aren't rocking up at regular jobs, they are all working for gangs under various guises. They all work those fringe jobs that don't get looked at too closely like delivery drivers, uber, carwash and whatever. So many of the delivery shit is a result of subcontracting too, hardly any delivery drivers speak English and I don't even mean uber, I mean Amazon or whatever. It's because they subcontract to a guy who owns a bunch of vans that are driven by illegals and he's not about to check their credentials and everyone looks the other way.
>>106709363NZ has no digital ID shit at present. The closest you’ll get is the sign-in used for benefits and filing taxes, and it’s not used for anything outside of government websites.
>>106713591Legal and illegal immigration can both be problematic. If a country imported 300,000 Indians legally, it’d cause issues regardless of the intent of those immigrants.It’s being done to A) drive wages down, and B) shore up declining populations due to either younger natives leaving due to shit economy, or low birth rates. The boomers know there aren’t enough zoomers and millennials to support their old asses in retirement, so they’ll import brown people to run all the shit they need while they refuse to fuck off and die.Every western country is facing the prospect of demographic collapse, and immigration is the only immediate, fast solution that doesn’t require cutting benefits to the olds
>>106707524then you will just make immigrants legal
>>106714099Funny thing about birth rates is after the 1st generation, 2nd generation migrants also tend to also have fewer kids just like the native pop, so they need fresh new ones to come in. Personally I don't see declining birthrates as necessarily bad for ecological reasons, and economically it's because of artificially enforced scarcity of things like homes.
>>106709405yoooooo! thats my state!
Ah yes, the solution is everything besides solving the problem.
>>106714161>>106714099The biggest thing that retards up top don't seem to realize is that people will have kids when given incentive to do so, either worse case (Need to pop out as many kids because of mortality rates) or best case (Strong economy to ensure that everyone has a place and can live comfortably). Right now, the incentive in western countries is very low.
>>106714262The incentives in western country is to die. The death cult propaganda is strong in western countries. Abortion of babies, castration of kids, depopulation of adults, deindustrialization of society, communist ideology to destroy functioning brain of individuality, destruction of functioning society, etc. The WEF 2030 goal of destabalization is going accordingly.
>>106708135france : fuckedgermany : fuckednew zealand: fuckedswitzerland : fuckednetherlands: fuckedireland: fuckedthen add australia, america, englandcan you even find the common denominator anon, or are you subhuman?
>>106707524Australia is doing age assurance for social media websites. I don't think they are going after porn sites as much as the UK. Australia doesn't have a current plan for digital ID
>>106714394Going after social media is more sensible anyway, according to studies most of the NSFW content children were seeing was on social media not going to actual porn sites.
>>106707524ACtually IDing and enforcing existing laws is already enough to do what is needed to prevent illegal immigrants from working in all developed nations. Digital ID is nothing but a power grab to increase the surveillance state and police wrongthink. If I have to choose between illegals or rights, then I choose rights because QoL in a police state is intolerable and a loss of all power. The illegals will become undocumented workers you can't criticise when digital ID is implemented. It's another false choice, regardless.
>>106714394>Australia doesn't have a current plan for digital IDWrong.
>>106714482SO FAR they don't have any plans to tie digital ID to access of the Internet or link it to for example adult sites scanning faces/IDs for the OSA, simply for access to government services and to prove you are the person you say you are to jobs or landlords or whatever.I'm not saying it won't happen, but thus far, they are completely seperate, I don't agree with Digital ID because I think it's a possible slippery slope and highly prone to abuse/hacking, but so far there aren't any free speech connotations for it.
Just sayin' the right wing don't like digital ID because it can help prevent fraud and shell accounts and other funny financial things they do to bury their wealth and hide from taxation and many of them run shady business that relies on cheap migrant labour
>>106707524Kier Starmer is retarded trying to push this as a solution to illegal immigration and it's literally going to push people even further to parties like Reform, he's a moron to think this would bring people back.
>>106714363They all speak germanic language? Excluding french, their language is just retarded which makes them retarded by association.
>>106713984Yet most of europe has a problem with immigrants too? So it obviously didn't solve the problem.
>>106714514that's just cenno/tax/medicare services
>>106707661>Civilians are way too lenient. Social media has castrated them.Berlin in 1933 called
>>106707661there are old folks and young women that are not that lenient not many are interested in safety stronger you build harder it is to get out if door freezes shut
>>106713471>Why do you think they're importing millions of migrants to displace the because "they" aka you jews need cheap labor and want to brainwash gentile whites into sucking jew cock
>>106714558I've noticed whenever anyone is discussing immigration in the UK someone always tries to pivot to: actually it's the rich that is the problem, or what we really need is a wealth tax, etc. See it a lot on YouTube with those white, scrawny, shaved head British YouTubers. As if two things can't be a problem.Eat the rich and their immigrants.
>>106708135>>106707661DARWIN AWARD FO' LIL' TIMMYACK ACK ACK
>>106714514>"yes hello, silk road?">"It is me, Kier Starmer, Prime Minister of England, inshalah.">"I would like to purchase fentanyl, with crypto.">"here is my digital ID to verify this purchase"
>>106713984Euro Bureaucracy is such a mess that a digital ID system that handles all of this automatically will be adopted without a second thought. Everyone is fed up with migrants however and want them out.
>>106710194>deport 16 people>one of them turns out to be a citizen>you violated the constitution and the King dissolves your governmentNice job, faggot.
>>106710194found the jew
>>106714912england does not visit pharmacy with que number and state his/her/they business at service desk?
>go to the store to buy some beer>get everything and stand in line for the register>they ask to see my ID>ID server getting DDOS'ed / Internet acting up / phone battery ran out / I didn't wanna pay $100 a month for mobile internet / i will be standing here until it's resolved
>>106707524na zum glück sprecht ihr heute kein deutsch
>>106709284Palantir is still bad. Starmer hates white people. Whining butwhatabout when one is clearly worse is asinine
>>106715116I don't know, and I don't care. All I know is that centralized servers and governments have shit security and anyone who sold their old phone will be shitting bricks when this comes online. This digital ID shit will replace the online verification and remove the need to send a photo of your ID card and a selfie, at least the European ones will, but I reckon the rest of the world will function like this too.Identity theft will go through the roof and I find it extremely hilarious.
It's kind of cool that people are frustrated enough to start shooting each other. Maybe things will change in a few years.
>>106708139I don't like the French, but I'll give them one thing, they don't just bend over and spread it for their government
>>106707524You fuckers joked so much about China, North Korea and Russia. You reap what you sow.
>>106707524People are criticizing Israel online -> time to crack down on online speech
>>106711729Leftists don't have friends.
i find kvetching about digital id pretty funny seeing as it's mostly security theater because mostly everyone already has a digital id
>>106707524They open the floodgates for immigration then blame immigration for the introduction of digital IDs.Backstabbing hypocrites!
>>106713984In Germany there is "Bund ID" which can be used for digital verification to access online public services, but technically I don't think it's mandatory since you can choose to do almost every bureaucratic process via mail or email. It's certainly not necessary for getting a job, but for that there's already a "tax identification number" (Steueridentifikationsnummer) which is used to identify you as a citizen and exists seperately from the "tax number" (Steuernummer). It is not per se digital but you cannot get a job without such number. I'm honestly not sure how different that concept is compared to this bong ID.
>>106713591Kill yourself kike.
>>106715888It isn't. It's literally the same system.It's ironic but most of the pushback on this could've been avoided if they said it's for digitizing the archives.
>>106707524The scamdemic made this viable.
>>106710194Not in this country. Brexit was all about getting rid of people who are "Okay"-coloured.Another imageboard I post on had an excellent point: these digital ID cards are going to have a giant Union Jack on them, for muh flag muh patriotism retard pandering bullshit reasons. But approximately half the population of Northern Ireland really, really hate the Union Jack because they identify as more Irish than British, and they're going to need these cards too. There's going to be massive outcry and, based on what Northern Ireland is like, probably literal terrorism and murder. But Labour clearly haven't considered this.
>>106710087>get paid in cash?
>>106715124Starmer is claiming to deport illegals just like Trump. They are the same.
>>106711402Our establishment political parties are both doing so badly in the polls, simultaneously, that we might genuinely be on the verge of completely wiping out the two-party system. It'll be the Liberal Democrats versus Reform in the next election, which would be like if Trump's replacement was going to be either the Libertarians or the US Green Party, with absolutely no Democrats or Republicans left. This is based, and I would argue that people-power is more visible than it has been at any point since everyone moved from Liberal to Labour in 1910 or whenever.Of course, all parties are the same, and that's not going to change. Starmer was going to end the winter fuel allowance, but was blocked from doing so despite his enormous parliamentary majority. He was going to invest more money, but now he is mysteriously not able to do that either. I blame this on modern data analytics; every party gets the same polling data, so they all cater to the same statistics, and that's why the policies are all the same.
>>106714010I'm going to steal a child's digital ID just for banter. So no.
>>106710087Spoof app with leaked fingerprints.1 billion chinks had their data leaked. Nobody cared because they were chinks and siffing through 1 billion is painful.Now there are 60 million bongs. Most of the power in Bingland is in London. There are 7 million Lonbongers. Most of them are mudslimes, poos, nigs and chinks. Whites struggle to tell them apart.
>>106709757That one is pretty good.The nightmare is real.
>>106707524>I know you’re worriedah ha, good one. So it’s because of both pedophiles and illegal immigrants now. And it’s not just about internet, it’s about social control. great.
>>106716905These days I'm feeling a lot of value in a more representative system by dropping FPTP and embracing something like Germany's coalition system. Not that Germany's system is perfect at all, but it feels more balanced than weighting behind a handful of big parties.
>>106707524>we let in all these violent negroes so we could make you use this spyware that'll hinder the violent negroes... probably
>>106707524I can't see what benefits this brings over normal ID and national insurance stuff for proof of right to work - which I'm pretty sure means they plan to use it for more than just right to work in the near future.I wish they'd just say straight up what they want to do with it rather than trying to incrementally slip it in - then we could actually have a rational discussion about it.
>>106717553>then we could actually have a rational discussion about it.why would they want that?
Brits have been talking about illegal immigration for years. They should really thank their prime minister for finally doing something about it. Digital ID is a small price to pay.
>>106707524Well, the pepeposters saying "good" sure disappeared quickly when met with actual decay huh?
>>106707524>I'm on the side of digital ID!>I'm on the side of mass immigration!Man I wish I was jewish this shit is pretty funny when you think about it
