Napkin Math EditionDiscussion of Free and Open Source Text-to-Image/Video Models and UIPrev: >>106708328https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide>UIComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUISwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUIre/Forge/Classic/Neo: https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#reforgeclassicneoSD.Next: https://github.com/vladmandic/sdnextWan2GP: https://github.com/deepbeepmeep/Wan2GP>Checkpoints, LoRAs, Upscalers, & Workflowshttps://civitai.comhttps://civitaiarchive.com/https://openmodeldb.infohttps://openart.ai/workflows>Tuninghttps://github.com/spacepxl/demystifying-sd-finetuninghttps://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainerhttps://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scripts/tree/sd3https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scriptshttps://github.com/tdrussell/diffusion-pipe>WanXhttps://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples/wan22/https://github.com/Wan-Video>Chromahttps://huggingface.co/lodestones/Chroma1-BaseTraining: https://rentry.org/mvu52t46>Neta Luminahttps://huggingface.co/neta-art/Neta-Luminahttps://civitai.com/models/1790792?modelVersionId=2203741https://neta-lumina-style.tz03.xyz/>Illustrious1girl and Beyond: https://rentry.org/comfyui_guide_1girlTag Explorer: https://tagexplorer.github.io/>MiscLocal Model Meta: https://rentry.org/localmodelsmetaShare Metadata: https://catbox.moe | https://litterbox.catbox.moe/GPU Benchmarks: https://chimolog.co/bto-gpu-stable-diffusion-specs/Img2Prompt: https://huggingface.co/spaces/fancyfeast/joy-caption-beta-oneTxt2Img Plugin: https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusionArchive: https://rentry.org/sdg-linkBakery: https://rentry.org/ldgcollage>Neighbours>>>/aco/csdg>>>/b/degen>>>/b/realistic+parody>>>/gif/vdg>>>/d/ddg>>>/e/edg>>>/h/hdg>>>/trash/slop>>>/vt/vtai>>>/u/udg>Local Text>>>/g/lmg>Maintain Thread Qualityhttps://rentry.org/debo
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>>106711936
Blessed thread of frenship
>>106711946grabs your balls, twists really hard, then pulls on them like from that video of the dog ringing the church bell
this thread has kino gens and documents progress in genAI from 2022 to nowhttps://la*nch*n.org/vis/res/9112.html
WHERE THE FUCK IS THE FP8 SCALED VERSION OF QWEN IMAGE EDIT REEEEEEE
>>106711955There isn't one, least not that I can see on hf. Same with the original image edit model
>>106711955just quant it in the loader?
>>106711954neat>4chanxt adds thread watcher to lainchain populated with threads from 4chan heh
>>106711955learn2googlehttps://huggingface.co/Comfy-Org/Qwen-Image-Edit_ComfyUI/tree/main/split_files/diffusion_models
>>106711967isn't scaled the type that runs faster on 40 and 50 series gpus? i think it needs to be manually quanted
>>106711955Is this the one you're looking for
>>106711978No that is one version of nunchaku quants
>>106711974>learn2googleit's not the 20th century any more granddad
The lightning lora for qwen fucking blows, I knew it was too good to be true. Almost two minutes for a 20 step output using two image inputs is aids though...
>>106712005yeah we use askjeeves now you bellend
>>106711936napt is gone forever faggot
>>106711954>if you have an android phone with the palm gesture selfie feature, point your phone's camera at this picturelmao this actually works
>>106712013>The lightning lora for qwen fucking blowsDepends on the task. Simply stuff like removing and object it's a decent timesaver. Most other things you don't want it.
>>106712132tried the multigpu distorch nodes?
>>106712015your dotsafetensor file m'lud
>>106709656>>106712132They're probably offloading. As a general rule, the file size of the model is the minimum amount of VRAM you'll need to at least load the model. Qwen Image Edit Q8 is 21GB. That's how much VRAM it needs to load. 16GB GPU users are 100% offloading with virtual_vram_gb.
Why isn't there a true multi GPU solution for comfy UI yet? I have 2 3090s and one is always sitting idle when I could have them both blasting away of a job.I know it's possible. Why hasn't anyone implemented it? And no I'm too dumb to do it myself.
>>106712162>offloadingThey could have fucking said that last thread then, I thought something was wrong with my setup.
>>106712177>"so you bought a second 3090 thinking it would magically double your gen speeds"lol
>>106712189If you didn't know that filesize is always the minimum vram load then that's on you, fucko.
>>106712177Is it possible? I thought that the sequential nature of diffusion via iterative denoising makes true multigpu impossible, or that the model would have to be designed for parallelism in the first place, and none are.
>>106712262>>106712177Wasn't the multigpu node allowing you to use the vram of the second gpu, just not the the core?
>>106712262Far as I know, when it comes to SD, more than one GPU is only useful for batch runs or for training.
>>106712162Would someone be so kind as to share their workflow? I've been bashing my head against this for the for past 6 hours trying to 'fix' it but if it's working the way it's supposed to be working that would certainly change things. I've tried a couple different workflows I found but they all have the same issue with the raw vram size of the Q8 model
>>106712223>so you bought a second 3090 thinking it would magically double your gen speedsI never said that. I use it for LLMs.
Realistically couldn't you send half of the latent to each gpu and then just stitch them together?
I need to griftMAXXXX give me your worst /ldg/!
>>106712330ask ranfaggot
In comfy is there a way to make sure two text prompt nodes have the same text?
>>106712330InvokeAI supports v-pred, chroma, Flux, Qwen, and some workflows, but it's still being ignored.
>>106712336Just plug a string node into the input of each text box?
>>106712336
>>106712347>>106712357thanks
Is there any ComfyUI function that lets you merge multiple nodes? Like I have 4 VAE nodes, can't I compact them somehow? Or compact the model loading nodes into some kind of rack? So I end up with a neat little tower of load checkpoint, upscaler, VAE, LoRA, all compact?
>>106712364>Like I have 4 VAE nodesjust use one??
>>106712364Right click, convert to subgraph.
im confident enough to not need samples anymore btw if you cared
>>106712367I'm a power user??????
>>106712295Just use the default comfy workflow for 2059 that you can find in comfy's browser. Q8 gguf uses slightly more VRAM than fp8_e4m3fn, so if you swap out the loader, you might need to offload very slightly even on 24GB (maybe 2-4, it'll barely affect speed).I use fp8_e4m3fn. Even with three input images, VRAM usage maxes out at 23GB at 1 megapixel output.
When I'm using Comfy is there a way to make sure the cock is lubed up before it goes into my ass? It hurts going in dry.
>>106712385>VRAM usage maxes out at 23GB at 1 megapixel output.Exactly 23 or 23.5+? It offloads to shared memory if that happens yeah?
>>106712373Thanks Comfy. How are the investor shares going?
>>106712398Between 23 to 23.1 with three inputs. It never goes over 23.5, otherwise it'd go at a snail's pace or OOM. A single image input is 21.9. That's fp8_e4m3fn.
>>106712357Can you turn that into a list of strings and have it pick randomly, without needing third party nodes ?
>>106712385How do you offload? I asked AI but it gives me node options that don't exist
>>106712431Wrong loader. You need UnetLoaderGGUFDisTorchMultiGPU.>https://github.com/pollockjj/ComfyUI-MultiGPUIncrease virtual_vram_gb.
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>>106712425There are wildcard nodes but idk if they are core
>>106712435Thank you anon, it works. It takes 230 seconds for a single 1k~ image though, which seems like a long time for a single frame (compared with Wan doing 101 frames in 330 seconds sometimes)
>>106712431I use q8 qwen edit v2 on a 4080 and thats 16gb, it should use some regular ram if it doesnt load fully into vramall I swapped from the original workflow was the positive prompt node, didnt change the other one (dont use negative prompts for it)
>>106712425"A photo of {tag1|tag2|tag3|tag4}, high quality".
>>106712471I've got a 4090, and 25 steps at 2.5 CFG takes a little under a minute. Yeah, it's a slow model to run. Shame sage doesn't work with it.
how is it inspyrenet still the goat at rembg?
>>106712481You don't get the actual end prompt saved with the image with this method, also it's really bad when you want to have a large selectionIt's weird how such basic functionality isn't available in core nodes, like just picking random strings from a list and sending to prompt
>>106712471The more input images you use, the slower it is as well. The lightning lora massively speeds it up, but it pretty much lobotomizes the model for anything but the simplest of prompts
>>106712493Have you tried toonout
>>106712494>You don't get the actual end prompt saved with the image with this methodYou need third party nodes for that, ie ImpactWildcardProcessor. That saves both the wildcard prompt and the final prompt it picks.
>>106712493I find using flux kontext (and probably qwen image edit too) better, but slower obviously. Inspyrenet does great with single subject but if there's multiple subjects in the foreground it starts to fall apart.>>106712510Gonna check it out.
>>106712483use this and set it to 8 steps, 1 cfg:https://huggingface.co/lightx2v/Qwen-Image-Lightning/blob/main/Qwen-Image-Edit-Lightning-8steps-V1.0.safetensorsin general it takes like 20-30 seconds or so. same result but faster with the lora. and you can use other loras if you want with it.
>>106708528>>106708856A couple anons asked for the catbox to this image, here's the base before upscale and inpaint.
>>106712494you just attach another "show text" node to it then u can see what is picked
>>106712510Interesting>>106712525yea the speed is kinda krazy
quen edit lightning v1 or quen image lightning v2 or edit v2 gens? I wonder how they compare, need to test.
>>106712580*for edit gens even
the man is pointing to a laptop he his holding with his right hand, with the text "LDG" on the screen.Qwen-Image-Lightning-8steps-V2.0-bf16.safetensorsseems fine
>>106712597looks great
>>106712597helps if I attach the image.
>>106712020big if true
>>106712603and this is with edit v1.jacket seems better with the v2?
How is this for flux ultimatesdupscale settings? it still seems a bit grainy, like i could do more steps but it may also be a low denoise setting, not sure. using flux1devnsfwunlockedQ8
>>106712570Thumbs up!
>>1067126200.25 denoise is too low. I don't use flux anymore, but I'm pretty sure it has tile controlnets for upscaling. With them, you could push 0.6-0.7 denoise without large changes to the composition. Without them, use 0.45-0.5.
the girl in image1 is wearing the outfit of the girl in image2.pretty clean haruhi. yeah, the 2.0 regular qwen image lightning might be better than 1.0 qwen edit lightning lora. need to test more though.
>>106712643yep it seems better. using: Qwen-Image-Lightning-8steps-V2.0-bf16.safetensorsgonna try with the full size one to compare. but, it's consistent and *seems* a bit better than the v1 edit specific lora.
>>106712666
yeah, 2.0 lora def works better than the 1.0 edit lora cause it wasn't getting this same prompt right before.actually got the plugsuit on elegg proper this time.Qwen-Image-Lightning-8steps-V2.0-bf16.safetensors > Qwen-Image-Edit-Lightning-8steps-V1.0.safetensors, for now.
>>106712693and this with Qwen-Image-Lightning-8steps-V2.0.safetensors (full size)kept the midriff from the original this time.
>>106712693Yeah, the old 2.0 for regular Qwen Image works better than the new one specifically for Edit, at least in my tests. It's not even close. How'd they fuck up the new lora so badly?
UwU
>>106712781idk, not sure how they would train for an edit model specifically, but the regular qwen image lora should work on all images so it should work with any edit prompt too i'd guess?
>>106712782
RNGing a few gens with euler sigmoid offset with QIE 2509 seems to give better results than the default euler simple every few gens.LCM can also RNG into a good result but it's much worse most of the time so not worth.res_2s bong_tangent can also be better but it's hard to say.But it's unfortunate that there is so little difference in most of the sampler space nowadays, the main one that can be good that is quite different is res2s bong.
>>106712797>https://huggingface.co/lightx2v/Qwen-Image-Lightning/discussions/17#68c3e582372a5302cd062d88They talk about it there.
the girl in image1 is wearing the outfit of the girl in image2.cute! yeah im definitely sticking with the 2.0 reg qwen lightning for edit. it's more consistent and has better detail.like for this 2b test, it wasnt getting the dress on properly it was doing a hybrid with the old lora, and was less consistent.
>>106712638sent a response earlier and it seems 4chan ate it.thanks. though my upscales are still a little sub par. guess ill fuck with it more in the morning.base https://files.catbox.moe/1blh4o.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/et2v65.pngupscale https://files.catbox.moe/d11o1b.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/jlmmyh.png>>106712812sigmoid balls
>>106712820is that from a kingdom hearts CG style lora? looks really really fucking good man.
>>106712822chun li alpha 3 test:
>>106712830anon, pls
>>106712839chun dress alt, turned out really good imo:2.0
for the loras, is there notable difference between bf16 and full size versions? I assume the larger file is better and the smaller one is making some compromise or is missing some data.
>>106712823Try using Chroma as your upscaler at 0.45 denoise.
>>106712842here is catboxhttps://files.catbox.moe/zo7120.pnghttps://civitai.com/models/507472?modelVersionId=1880913https://civitai.com/models/1585110/kairi-kingdom-hearts-1-2-illustrious
>WAN>want a fully clothed character to sway butt around calmly>gen shits itself after 1 second and does random shit like a lunatic on drugs suddenly a dick comes out of vagina and pierces through the clothesHow do you make these hallucinations less mentally deranged?
>>106712913just roll with it bruh
>qwen image edit consistently tones down breast and ass size when swapping outfits
>>106712925say large or huge, it will listen
>>106712925Gotta say keep her breasts very huge, but it will still nerf them depending on the dataset because some full body outfits didnt have anyone with big tits in them
a bit unfair cause peripheral vision will also make you spot the sign right away, but...
imagine 20 years ago someone said "you can tell a computer to remove clothes and it will do it".and yes, the 2.0 lora is more effective.
>>106712976and for a silly prompt to test the model...the woman is wearing a suit of white gundam armor.
replace the red shirt of the woman in image1 with the outfit of the girl in image2. she has large breasts. keep the expression of the woman in image1 the same.
>>106713064love these, on my wave length
the woman in image1 is waving hello with the anime girl from image2, seated beside her.
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>>106713094the woman in image1 is waving hello with the girl from image2, sitting beside her.endless possibilities with edit, then you have wan to animate stuff.
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>>106713212nice
the woman in image1 is wearing the outfit of the girl in image2.tried swapping the outfit of ann from persona. pretty neat what you can do with these models desu. even if I wanted to do this with inpainting it'd be very hard if not impossible to do, even with controlnets.
a gigantic version of the girl is lying on her side at the beach, looking down at a tiny man in plate armor holding a sword. she has very large breasts.meanwhile in anor londo:
>>106713250almost looks like the demons souls armor, kek
>>106713087original artist is good https://x.com/tsunosame/media
>>106712925You need to tell it to keep the proportions and pose exactly the same, especially if the target outfit is on someone with smaller TNA. Use a more detailed prompt.
>>106713253
Is the interpolation inside comfyui worth it?
>>106713259>https://x.com/momomo_906reminds me of this dude. Ain't really the exact style but also it is the same aesthetic. working on a lora, I feel like it will be hot
>>106713332good for wan gens, 16 to 32 fps with film vfi is much smoother
>>106713332FILM is still the best in my opinion. I'm saying that after trying every other option, including Topaz Video's commercial interpolation.Only downside is that it's quite slow.
>>106713341nice find. do share gens when you finish it
Wait, do I need this Get Image node..? I think I kept it from another workflow.>>106713343>>106713355I think I can spot a small difference between rife and film vfi. Also the interpolation helps a lot with the too fast movements I often get.
>>106713456RIFE is fast, but it had problems with fast motions from what I recall, artifacts and some blur. There's videos on youtube comparing various interpolation methods that show it.
but...I worked for blizzard...
>>106713483I wonder how history would be different if he didn't just roach out like that in diremaul.
the girl in image1 is wearing the outfit of the girl in image2.
>>106713516remove the black dress of the girl in image1. the girl in image1 is wearing the outfit of the girl in image2.2b, but casual clothes ann from persona 5:
>>106713568>completely change the style into something interesting>an alcoholic or something, move past a generic img2img of the prior inputman ai is amazing
I've never made an honest effort at attempting to solve wildcards even though I've always wanted to since that cathode anon taught me about nestled wildcards. Even before that I wanted to make some but they've always been half assed.
>tfw I figured out Set and Get nodes all by myself
>>106713609but I'm gonna do it right now anonsI'm making some wildcards!!!!
>>106713609>>106713630I have ones for facial expressions, composition, poses, and focus
>>106713629We're all very proud of you.
>>106713638Thank you.How can I make them smaller though? Right now it shows the Constant as well as the title. It's like 3 times larger than it needs to be.
>>106713635Yeah I've got a bunch like that too but the possibilities should be in the zillagorillions, with many layers of nestled concepts that work. So then I can just use 1 wildcard and have it produce infinity unique characters. And right now I'm thinking about equipment rather than those things.For focus do you mean like close-ups and stuff like that?
>>106713650All the tags under "Body parts" https://donmai.moe/wiki_pages/tag_group%3Afocus_tags Close-up would fall under composition https://donmai.moe/wiki_pages/tag_group%3Aimage_compositionI use all four cards except when I'm dialing in the look
>>106713703>armpit focus>ass focusnaruhodofine taste
>>106713781>>106713781>My boob Is coo 'me aod it tierte...
How the fuck are people doing first frame last frame long videos without any degredation in quality?
>>106713862context nodes.
>>106712214nice
>>106712386ber and chiken wings?
I think I'm done with this hobby. Now that qwen has pulled out of open source we're basically dead in the water for the next 4-6 months.
>>106712486who are you if rei talks to you
>>106713936Chroma slow gen speed is killing me
https://xcancel.com/TencentHunyuan/status/1971805621738700947#m>omg guyz it can do textI hope it does, it's a fucking 80b model
>>106714007I can't stand how they're hyping this model up. It looks so slopped it's unreal. It seems like diminishing returns stack out of control after 12B.
https://xcancel.com/jampani_varun/status/1971599630187258024#mWho wants a distilled SD3.5?? please clap...
>>106714023it's more like they still don't understand that using a shit synthetic slopped training dataset to your model will only produce a slopped model, garbage in, garbage outhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garbage_in,_garbage_out
>>106714026SAI the underdog completely assblasting the competition. Xi quakes in feat.
>>106714026I actually feel anger over the fact they are still around at this point.
Best stable diffusion front end to install on linux?
>>106714026>SketchX>https://huggingface.co/SketchX>The ultimate vision for SketchX is to understand how seeing can be explained by drawing. In other words, how better understanding of human sketch data can be translated to insights on how human visual systems operate, and in turn how such insights can benefit computer vision and cognitive science at large.>SketchX has been actively investigating all aspects of sketch research since 2012. Problems we study range from conventional tasks such as sketch recognition and sketch synthesis, to those pioneered within, e.g., fine-grained sketch-based image retrieval and memory-aware forensic sketch analysis.Inner essing.
>>106713793lmao
>>106713793>>106713807ngl, she's really beautiful, in another universe she would've thrived as a model, not as a fucking cumdump...
>>106714023I honestly don't care about slop as long as prompt following is improved. Slop can be finetuned away prompt following can't be improved unless you spend a lot of money.
>>106714082>Slop can be finetuned awayI've heard this shit since the release of Flux more than a year ago, can this meme just leave? It's obvious no has any idea how to bring back sovl to a model, I hope you can transform flux into midjourney but good luck for the one that manages to do that, there's a furry fuck that blasted his teeth putting 140k dollars in it
>>106713355film shifts colors a little compared to topaz but its not a big problem
>>106714077>ngl
>>106714007>That letteringTheir datasets are poisoned by openai watermarking beyond repair, they should throw them all away and start from scratch.
SDXL forever
>>106714077I agree. She is extremely beautiful and unique as well. And it's not like a conventional beauty either. She's uniquely beautiful.
>>106714119>they should throw them all away and start from scratch.true that, and next time they should go for a 200b model, just one more billion parameter bro...
>>106714119>Their datasets are poisoned by openai watermarking beyond repairI don't get China, they have hundreds of millions of slaves ready to annotate captions proprely, and they're as lazy as as your average lora maker by using synthetic slop to finetune their shit, that's crazy
>>106714082lol, just like all those millions of unslopped hidream and hunyuan 2.1 finetunes, right? chroma furry wasted 150k and still had to train at 512x512 because of funds. nobody is finetuning this 80b shit
>>106713296me in the armor
>>106714007nice calendar lmao
>>106714082>Slop can be finetuned awayYes and I usually I would agree, but 80B parameters at this point. There is a point where the model gets frankly unrealistic to expect some rando to finetune.I think we crossed that long ago before or around qwen.Even if it can be fine tuned it's way too big for anyone to reasonably expect a decent fine tune to just happen.
>>106714168>There is a point where the model gets frankly unrealistic to expect some rando to finetune.>I think we crossed that long ago before or around qwen.I'd say even for Flux it's ridiculous, look at lodestone, he cut some shit to get a 9b model, and he spent 150k to "save" it (that took him half a year and he failed)
>>106714179Exactly. It's unreasonable. I don't think I could even train LoRAs for this hunyuan model and I have 2 3090s. Qwen was a stretch at a decent rank and resolution.
>>106714154It looked like they hacked the base model, but things only got a bit better, and in the end it still couldn’t overcome the potent poison the Flux developers planted for open-source use.If you try a model without that kind of poison, like Wan2.2, you’ll see how compliant it is.That said, there’s a high chance the core of his kink is satisfied. I’m not interested in that part, so I haven’t tested it.
>>106714194>If you try a model without that kind of poison, like Wan2.2, you’ll see how compliant it is.China is able to make good video models only because there's not enough synthetic video slop to poison it, so they had no other choice but to work hard and caption real videos, at some point I expect them to be lazy on that front as well and use veo3's video to make their next models, this is grim lol
>>106714007>Prompt 4: Solve the system of equations 5x+2y=26, 2x-y=5, and provide a detailed process.I don't think people realize how much VRAM it's gonna eat, not only it's a 80b model, but it's an autoregressive model lmao
>>106714211It's already starting. Look at 2.5, the outputs look... bad?
>>106714219>not only it's a 80b model, but it's an autoregressive model lmaoMaybe it will just be a bit more intensive than an 80b LLM
Chinabros...
>>106714234>Maybe it will just be a bit more intensive than an 80b LLMSounds awful.
>>106714230when you listen to the sound of wan 2.5 it sounds like the compressed sound of veo 3 (which is already a compressed sound) so yeah, they're already poisoning their models with slop, Alibaba and Tencent will go nowhere until they decide to make effort on a real dataset once and for all
>>106714094Look just cause you like gpt piss filter and blur dreams or MJ neon retro forever doesn't mean everyone does. Fucking hate those models and their gens with a passion, Lora+ any local model looks tons better.
>>106714252I mean people run deepseek r1 without issues you just need to quant it
>>106714264>just one more lora brothat sounds more like cope than "just see you guys, some guy will fall into the sky and finetune Flux into the next Seedream" desu
>>106714267Running something and running something at speed that makes it worth it aren't the same thing.
>>106712902thank you anon you're a leggendd>NEW kairi loraah that also explains why it looks so good.
>>106714234>Maybe it will just be a bit more intensive than an 80b LLMjust look at that autoregressive 7b model, now imagine you're multiplying that with 10https://github.com/Alpha-VLLM/Lumina-mGPT-2.0
>>106714269I fucking hope not, if they made flux into blurdream fest I would be livid. I want actual details on my gens not sand grain
>>106714287>sand grainwhat grain?
Here's what happens next>Here's the grain>Uhm actually here's a shot from a dslr camera it just looks like that.I'm from the future you see.
>>106714291>shows blurry example to disprove how blurry it isDamn anon...you got me
>>106714300>anon learns about bokeh on cameras
>>106714291this was my 9/11
>>106714310>>106714298Like clockwork lmao
>>106714315I mean, is he wrong though? that's how cameras behave, now you're blaming the model from emulating cameras well?
>>106714324One might argue it overdoes the effect making people look overly fuzzy.
>>106714298>dslr cameraI'll take dlsr camera images over synthetic slop on the dataset, yes please
>>106714331No just people we had a dude spam painting gens and it had the same fuzziness, the overtrained on this weird bokeh effect.
>>106714334Looks like hdr slop instead dlsr photo
>hdrslop>dlsrslop>syntheticdataslop>censorshipslop>slopslopi'm tired boss
Some anons will forever have the "grass is greener on the other side" syndrome
>>106714354but what anon doesn't know is that is true!
>>106714354Ambition will always be a good thing, that's humanity in a nutshell. If we had settled for mediocrity, we never would have gotten past inventing fire.
>>106714298>I'm from the future you see.Based time travelerbro what the the future for local models look like
>>106714349This post is pure tiredslop
>>106714354let's not pretend we're nitpicking shit from almost flawless models, they are far from perfect, and I'm being nice here>humans look like plastic>the bokeh is too strong>it only knows Miku and Trump>it knows 0 artist styles>doesn't know NSFWthere's a lot to complain about
>>106714375you are what you slop
>>106714282make good use of it. same lora creator made other KH girls.https://civitai.com/collections/10035609
>>106714349>>106714375>>106714381I'm getting complainslop fatigue.
>>106714370SDXL is still the main model for anime. Wan 2.2 gets another official tune from Qwen, I'll let you guess the name, but we don't get 2.5.Hunyuan image 3.0 is posted about like twice on reddit before never being mentioned again.
>>106714354coincidentally enough, the same anons also have mile wide anuses. Many such cases!>>106714369>>106714375>>106714381Very true(slop)!>>106714383>he did an aqua one as welllooks like im going into an early AM's cum coma
>>106714388>Hunyuan image 3.0 is posted about like twice on reddit before never being mentioned again.the hype is already dead, they already know it's a 80b model kek
>>106714391ToT
this is why chroma is the best, everything else is slop
>>106714388Oh I forgot. A T2I model will be released with native controlnet support preprocessor. The catch is that it will work like wan 2.2. There will be a low res model that convers broad stroke details of the image of the model trained on low resolution images with detailed tags that will go to a second model that will then refine the output at a higher resolution.
>>106713894Your blender looks buggy
>>106714412>Oh I forgot. A T2I model will be released with native controlnet support preprocessor.ok, tell us more
>>106714406heres a better one with non fucked fingers (forgot to turn on detailer)https://youtu.be/QJlBRjPVWqA?si=ZXZWYOUYUi8yYGG-
>>106714419Not much more to explain it's trained on millions of lower resolution images focused on image composition and a second model focused on higher resolution textures and details.
>>106714412>>106714439like Stable Cascade?
>>106714444Yeah sure, why not. Nice digits.
>>106714409I wish it was faster
>>106714455same for you, checked
>>106714427>heres a better one with non fucked fingersShe has three hands
>>106714409chroma lost its sovl at v30 when he decided to go for some low steps mumbo jumbo to please his discord vramlet cult
>>106712177>I know it's possible.>I'm too dumb.really makes you think.
>>106714464i am going to kill myself for not noticing the extendo hand god DAAAAAAAAAAMN
>>106714468can't you just keep using v29?
>>106714381yep. my measure of a model is how well it trains and how little its innate bias influences training. complainers are the same everywhere. what they're really upset about is their often self-imposed lack of control.>>106714468v29 still exists. chroma has 50+ sovls.
>>106714485v29 has sovl but the anatomy is fucked, that was the point of going for 50 epochs, to get images that got the anatomy right (and it never happened lol, I guess he needed more epochs and training on bigger resolutions but he hasn't the compute for it so I can't blame him for that)
I'm glad we're allowed to talk about Chroma and mention it's also deeply flawed in the same breath now.
>>106714490>chroma has 50+ sovls.it has 29 sovls, after that it's as slopped as Flux Schnell (which is ironic because that was his goal to get rid of the flux slop)
>>106714490>>106714491>>106714505so did chroma actually git gud or is it still a meme?
you might want to readjust you adetailer prompts and negative prompts. Also be specific with hand placement of arms and hands to reduce chances of deformities.
>>106714137>hundreds of millions of slavesand they better use them now before it's too late
>>106714026>distilled SD3.5I didn't use it beyond playing with it for a day, but I don't recall it being that heavy to where it would require low-step distillation (I do have a 4090 though).>>106714468Wouldn't he be able to easily go back and branch off of v29?
>>106714664>Wouldn't he be able to easily go back and branch off of v29?he doesn't have money anymore so no
>>106714310>>106714324thats not how cameras behave, luddite kid, thats how post processing contrast boost on dogshit cameras behave to make the shot more dramatic instead of actually realistic, retard
>>106714679>thats not how cameras behaveyou're wrong
OP is a faggotwhy did you remove wan21 info?https://rentry.org/wan21kjguidewhile your wan2.2 info is incomplete
>>106714705Use case of wan 2.1 over 2.2?
>>106714490>my measure of a model is how well it trains and how little its innate bias influences training.a great model doesn't need to be trained after release, change my mind
>>106714719>a great model doesn't need to be trained after releaseThis is true, but it also doesn't exist so you're using an impossible and as of yet unfulfilled standard to judge a model.
>>106714683thanks for that great argument and confirming that you are a low iq subhuman kid, cheers
>>106714725model trainers lack ambition. it's just benchmark chasing for funding, that's it. if they had incentive or balls they would just make a good fucking model
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Weirdly enough I used the new Qwen edit 2059 base and it worked even tho I only have a 12 gig laptop 4080
>>106714735When that model exists I'll agree. Until then we have to live with good enough and trainable.
>>106714729>great argumentwhat's your argument instead of saying "nuh uh" saar?
>>106712913why would you just make that up?
I love these dolphin jumscares when genning for dolphin shorts lol
>>106714759my argument is human eyes look at reality without an insane post processing contrast boost like your dogshit slopped model has that cant be removed
>>106714765I wish it was just made up bs.Wouldn't have to complain here about this random shit generator.
>>106714713absolute destitutefags swapping models off an HDD?
>>106714804loli aside, do women know dolphin shorts are arousing as fuck?
>>106714362GO BACK TO YOUR CONTAINMENT GENERAL
>>106714840yes they know it.they also know when their nipples are peaking through their clothes.they also know when you can see their pussy lips through their skin tight yoga pants.
>>106714914god i love to hatelove women so much it's unreal
>>106714969did you genn for the plate to be pushed down by her tail?
>>106714719>a smart boy doesn't need an education, change my mindwe can always improve and specialize. if you've never hit the limits of a model or text encoder, that's a fault of the wetware.
When Chroma was the only option, I thought it was great, but then Wan2.2 came out and it became clear Chroma was basically doomed to fail at training—it only made an impression as an open-source “poisoned” model and, in practice, it can’t compete at all with the “normal” success you get by training from a clean, plain Wan2.2. Ironically, Chinese companies then started releasing “normal” base models one after another, and the Chroma guy ended up stuck, unable to move on from his own creation. That said, there still aren’t many models that handle /h/, so in that sense Chroma is among the top.
>>106715060feet?! bruh.. when the crotch is right there
>>106714007>>106714026GOD JUST PAY FOR AN IMPROVED DATASET ALL THIS SHIT LOOKS THE SAME, QWEN, HUNYAN, THIS.
>>106715060T5 is trying to keep their panties from showing.
>>106715098>GOD JUST PAY FOR AN IMPROVED DATASETthis, why the fuck are they wasting tens of millions for a gozillion parameters model, if the dataset is shit, the model will output shit, it's basic stuff
>>106715060how is this in any way appealing?you genuinely need to have something different in your brain to like feet baka.
>>106715114nta but I just like the upskirt part when it comes to feet stuff.
>>106714804KYS
>>106715114idk dude, women's feet make my pee pee hard, it is what it is
>>106715106it's still early, yet. sometimes we have to make something to see what happens. for instance, does training always scale linearly with resources?
https://xcancel.com/bdsqlsz/status/1971871215846674942#m>80b parameters and it looks like this
>>106715114 our feet are cobbled together from 20 bones stuck together like glue. Tall people regularly have more foot injuries in sports. women are obsessed with height and our feet suck ass. like put 2 and 2 together dude. You thin girls like tall guys and guys like short girls is a fucking coincidence? We're regulating our height dumbass.imagine a woman with massive bunions and hairy weird long toes that are mangled as fuck? You wanna fuck her?
>>106715156suddenly the rumors of it being closed source are sounding a lot nicer right about now
>>106715156even Chroma has better hands, and it has 10x less parameters, embarassing
Train the base model thoroughly and invest heavily.Quality isn’t about how pretty it looks; it’s about the dataset’s quality and quantity.Which LLM you use might be the most important factor.
>>106715159yeah judging by this post foot-faggotry is definitely some kind of mental illness
Is it possible to get Wan 2.1 LoRA's to function correctly in 2.2? I've got some sweet twerking LoRA's that had great looking physics, but I can't get them to work in 2.2, not at 1 strength and not at 3. Do they need to run with both low and high or just one? Is there some trick to running them or do they need to be retrained or something?
>>106715162>pircelI used to look up to that man, why did he turn out to be such a giant crying pussy?? :(
>>106715172I think it depends on what model the 2.1 lora was trained on (t2v or i2v). And I think i2v trained loras are basically fucked in 2.2, or maybe it's the t2v ones
>>106715172I ran a few tests, wasn’t satisfied, and immediately started training.
Currently we have: /ldg/ local diffusion general /sdg/ stable diffusion general /adt/ anime diffusion thread /de3/ dalle 3 cloud AI generalI understand local, I understand cloud gen AI because it's the opposite. The anime one because anime website. Can someone explain /sdg/?
>>106715098>JUST PAY FOR AN IMPROVED DATASETyou know what would be better than a leaked model, a leaked dataset, imagine every companies having access to a great quality model, it would even the field so much, the quality of the data is always the most important part
>>106715181>giant crying pussy*sniffle* "WATCH IT BUCKO. BENZOS ARE NO JOKE. NOW THAT, THAT IS CHAOS.Agreed though, he was influential in my early twennies.
>>106715156hmm... well, there are paintings like that
>>106715210>there are paintings like thateven picasso make better faces lol
>>106715195the S in sdg is for schizoyou can see it once you pay a visit there.
>>106715195/sdg/ is a containment thread for a handful of anons who post really terrible gens and are too socially awkward to just get on a discord chat together
>>106715195We should ask to shut down the /sdg/. They post gens from Chroma, SDXL, Dalle, and OpenAI without focusing on any specific style. That thread should be closed and users can move to either /de3/ or /ldg/ instead.
>>106715172Depends on the lora, but most 2.1 motion loras look like shit in 2.2 imo. If they're your own loras, retrain, if not, hope for the author to update it.Also, this is a pretty good twerk lora for 2.2 :>https://civitai.com/models/1953874?modelVersionId=2211367
>>106715195>Can someone explain /sdg/?asylum containment board, without that our general would be doomed by the schizos
so this is the power of v-pred... WOWZERS!!!
If I want to shave my head bald and become a degenerate coomer generating AI porn locally what should I be aiming for in terms of pc parts if im setting up a rig from scratch reasonably priced but willing to go $2000+
>>106715268well if you're really going full picrel with a budget like that, the obvious choice is a threadripper/5090 system.
>>106715169uh oh! looks like your defense mechanisms kicked in when they realized they were retarded. Good luck with you're little testosterone fueled trip retard.
>>106715275>threadripperno, it's cheaper to go epyc 9005 SP5 series, you can find used stuff really easy on ebay too. threadripper is better for gaming but do you game lmao?
>>106715275>a budget like that>$2000+it's not 2016 anymore anon...
dont worry bros the chink 112gb HBM ram gpu will save ustrust the plan, two more weeks
The CPU is just a bonus; in practice, the maximum RAM capacity is all that matters.
>>106715288>the epyc is literally $1k over his budget for the entire computerwhat did he mean by this?>>106715291oh you know what you're right, a $2,000 budget today is way different from back then.good luck dude you might get a used 4090 then kek
>>106715275>>106715288>>106715291I legit serious I can deal with slower generation and stuff but the first step is having a rig that can handle generating to begin with
I can't figure out what the set node in the middle is. When I hover over it says it's the node at the top, which it clearly isn't.
>take six months break from genning>come back>the top anime model is still illustrious>there's still no good realism or artistic model, everyone is still using either flux or chromakek
>>106713871NTA but can you post a workflow for it, is it using kijai's workflow? I tried with the native comfy setup and I couldn't get i2v to work wihtout setting the context length to the length of the whole video which seems pointless
>>106715309nothing changed in a year, I'm still waiting for the replacement of flux dev (for video better it's way better thanks to wan though)
>>106715304>slower generationshit nigger it's not 2022-3 anymore, even the 3000 series will get you started on the fast lane. but i can personally with my new bias recommend the 5060 ti 16gb, but with your budget, just go 4090 or something.only cards that can't handle generating are literally gtx and every AMD/Intel(rip lol) card.
>>106715306>kijaiLOL
>>106715275your wife is calling for u
>>106715304let's start over. so what do you have right now, and what do you what to be able to do?
So this is the power of 80b...
>not having at MINIMUM 24gbyou're are become the regret
>>106715315>5060 ti 16gbThats reasonable and I can adjust my budget since I kinda was just lowballing since I want something that can do the work but Im not entirely up to fucking fully commit to it. Is there anything else you would suggest to throw in there? Im essentially building from scratch so any other suggestions would be appreciated since I probably should have just posted this in the pc building general but wanted I wanted suggestions from the source
what's the general consensus on thick women?
>>106715336the jpeg artifacts are insane, maybe they're not using a vae anymore?
>>106715336When you get that level or low detail/artifacting around the eyes that close up, you know you fucked up
>>106715347Honestly also take advice from this fella >>106715334 because that's a reasonable place to start too. if you're not about committing fully yet i'd even say go slightly lower end than that card and if you want more speed, move up tiers. save yourself that few extra hunned bux at the start.pcpartpicker is REALLY helpful for making decisions on these things too.
>>106715348>what's the general consensus on thick women?I don't like it, I find fat females ugly as fuck
>>106715318Let me guess, it was the reason why my gen was broken?
>>106715336chinese can't into image modelswell established fact
>>106715349aye dios mio santa maria this CAN'T be real
>>106715348she's fat. not thicc.thicc is having a healthy amount of bf% but having large thighs.landwhales have adopted the term "thicc" to justify their bad lifestyle and dying bodies.do not fall for their tricks.
>>106715375well thats what Im trying to wrangle wan to do. It isnt listening sadly
>>106715358>>106715334well I have nothing redeemable hence why Im looking at doing an entire new build
>>106715349I think it looks more like low bitmap than jpeg artifacts.
>>106715378obese, fat etc in negatives (in wan nag)and use stuff like "slender with large thighs/hips" or something like that. desu is easier using i2v for that because wan is dumb
>>106715336look at the filesize. It seems it's just a low bitmap conversion of an original image.
>>106715384a build that is future proof will set you back way the fuck more than 2k. absolutely do not listen to the vramlets. i'm not memeing, do not get anything under 24gb vram ideally with minimum 64gb ram.your ideal system is a 5090 and whatever cpu you want. cpu literally does not matter at all for this.i promise you: if you get a 16gb vram card you WILL regret it. i have a 24gb card and can run everything without having to fuck around with pissy little quants.
>>106715414>you WILL regret itpsh speak for yourself bitchboooyy. you will be crying when your ancient card gets less and less speedup feature support. >inb4 he unironically paypigged for the tesla rigs in 2023 and still hasn't gotten over it
>>106715224It's worse than that, they have a discord as well but also poison the thread with their obnoxious behavior for attention.
>>106715426..what the fuck are you talking about? idk who or what you are refering to.did you even remotely understand what i wrote? jesus fuck.
this is surprisingly good.. the lotion moves right
>>106715268get a 5070 ti to start. The 5060 ti is too slow and is only for sdxl really- it's great for budget friendly ability to do ai shit, but the 5070ti is more than twice as fast for ai and your budget suggests you want something decent. The speed of the 5070 ti will allow you to fuck with new image models like qwen edit, wan video, and run nice llm's like glm air fine.in a year, sell it and get the new 24gb cards probably.
>>106715336Another one. It's cooked.
>>106715456someone make a starter kit lmao
>>106715456All the example images they've released are 1 megapixel as well. Instead of a retarded 80B model nobody can run, and which looks like shit, how about an 8B model that can do 2 to 4k?
>>106715456>180 KBDoes it really output 50% qual jpegs or are you converting it?
>>106715384Honestly, there's some truth to >>106715414 . The best option for citizen plebs is a 5090. The next best options is any Nvidia card with 24 GB of VRAM. Beyond that and then you'll start having to limit yourself and rely on cope shit. Also, upgrading a GPU hurts a lot more than upgrading ram, the GPU should be your primary focus.
>>106715473This is what Hunyuan themselves posted on X.
>>106715456>80b model>jacket has buttons> skirt too long80b model>jacket too long>handbag strap far longer80b modelthis is a 80b model.
>>106715468>Instead of a retarded 80B model nobody can run, and which looks like shit, how about an 8B model that can do 2 to 4k?that's too smart of an idea anon, the Tencent engineers are dumbfucks lol
>>106715483There's a distinct yellow sheen to every image too...https://x.com/TencentHunyuan/status/1971805621738700947
>2025>still cropping your data set
>>106715485>this is a 80b model.it definitely is one of the models of all time
>>106715495>https://x.com/TencentHunyuan/status/1971805621738700947wtf is wrong with those people??
>>106715514kek
>>106715514probably bots. people who comment in x are subhuman (literally)
>>106715514>>106715523why doesnt anyone just ask for nsfw directly.
>>106715531You are not getting a nsfw model ever again lol
>>106715538damn shame
>>106715329animating this did not do me any favors
>>106715531>>106715538this, vu will own nothing, vu will be happy
>>106715485Not to mention the fucking ZIPPER it created, despite the fact it's a button up jacket. Fucking lol.
>>106715551wheres the bj anon when we want him
>>106715549Not him or you, but I'm guilty of the same sin...
>>106715275a 5090 costs $2500+ by itself, retard
How long and how much would it take to chromify qwen with SRPO?
>>106715566Now make it twerk
How do you prompt Qwen to replace the character in one image with another? Every time I've tried it has failed miserably.>Let the woman in image 2 replace the character in image 1. Let her wear the outfit from image 1 and use the pose of image 1.
>>106715579afaik, you can't do it reliably. Same problem with style transfer, ie "Change image 1's style to match image 2's style".
new>>106715652>>106715652>>106715652>>106715652
good sheithttps://civitai.com/models/1988265?modelVersionId=2250722
>>106712561thanks anon, was looking forward to this link
>>106715336are they also doing pixel space?
