>Germany, Lithuania and Belgium no longer oppose, now back to undecided
>>106713309no one cares. yurojeets get that they deserve.
>More countries express a desire to reach an agreement in light of the expiring interim regulation.>Belgium, Latvia, and Italy all express support for the proposal, but remain undecided.I hate this world.
>>106713309>eurokeks
Would be funny is WhatsApp added a NPC user "EU law enforcement" to every group and 1:1 chat to wake up normies
>>106713309>chat control gets passed>backdoored "encryption" to military personnels phones gets fucked>russia exploits and launches some meme missiles to false flag>WW3 erupts >non-whites get what they have had coming since 1945I say that's a good thing
How do anons think the comms intercepting binary blob would be implemented? If the idea is that it's local first, wouldn't it be easy to disable?
>>106713309where the hell am i slovenia
>>106713817No, because they'll use the TrustZone encryption to ensure the system and apps aren't tampered with to enable encryption.
>>106713319This.Fuck this dystopia.I can't use any normie platform without getting banned after five minutes, but i should care that normies get raped more?Digital Id isn't going to affect me, because any platform that will use it is under government control and censorship already.
>hack someones computer>start typing illegal shit in a random chat>?????>profit
>>106713840So in essence EU would mandate all networked computing to happen in machines that support hardware attestation? What about older hardware that doesn't support that? How would they deal with them?
>>106713847devilish tactics rabbigreater israel might just make it after all!
>>106713817All those messengers are already impossible to run without their official aps.So you just add it to those aps.This problem has already been solved.Now you know why everyone calls Signal glowfag software, because it doesn't allow distribution of third party builds.
>>106713854Consoom
>>106713309>blocks child saviours' path
>>106713817Apple and Google will rush to offer their assistance and implement it at OS level.Google is already in the pricess of rolling out their trusted developer bullshit, killing free software installation.Many banks already refuse to let their apps run on anything other than official ROMs+ play store.The only thing missing then are trusted modules so the hardware will only run with unmodified firmware.And if people still manage to run proper encryption on their phones they will probably start making it a criminal offense.Shit is looking grim
>>106713854You are now one of the few people who understood the endgame. And if you really want to get mad consider who will be the one deciding whos keys are valid for hardware attestation. If you want to join my growing privacy schizo group of people that understood this problem add me on signal username lambda.76 Sadly this future is already unavoidable.
>Several Member States have said thatend-to-end encryption (E2E) systems should not be weakened. This is also the official position ofEstonia. But what is exactly meant by weakening the E2E? If the service provider, court or someother institution has the key, is the E2E weaker? Perhaps we are talking about the reluctance totechnical weakening of the system? In other sense, is the door weaker if someone has the key?you can't refute estonia
>>106714018Yes, because before I would’ve had to break into your house for just your key. Now I can break into one big house and have everyone’s key, and go steal all their shit. They won’t even know what happened, because I’ll have just unlocked the door normally. It is called end to end for a reason, not end to end and some other guy too
>>106713804>delete this message or you are going to jail>first strike and on our black list now
>>106713811Military and government communications are exempt
>>106713811>WW3 erupts>>non-whites get what they have had coming since 1945>I say that's a good thingbut all parties involved (US, EU, UK, Russia, Israel) are anti-White
>>106714018>several member states have saidAnd who gives a fuck? At the end, they all always agree.Some selected countries are allowed to disagree in the first phases, but when its about to vote, they will vote in favor of it.There is not a single case in EU history where a member state vetoed and prevented a dystopian measure from getting into effect.>Estoniais a 1.3 million population shithole that produces more refugees per capita than a warzone>E2E systems should not be weakenedBut backdoored, on the client. A backdoor doesn't weaken the system itself.Remember when EU shills said that an European Court decided that it is unlawful to weaken encryption?That specific court case was about Russia requesting data of Terrorists from Telegram and the decision happened after 2022. It is a decision against Russia, it does not mean that they themselves wont do that. In the past years we learned very well that different standards apply here.France even jailed the Telegram founder and pressured him into releasing data and providing backdoors. It is the same case, at a worse extend, you don't see the court ruling apply there.
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>>106713998>who will be the one deciding whos keys are valid for hardware attestationThat'll be international policy issue. Different spheres of influence can't agree on a source they don't control, so we'd end up having different "attestation domains".
>>106713309Chat control breaks Germany's basic laws so it's not gonna happen either way. All this voting is useless because the federal court will not allow it. Unlike mutts we have actually functional courts.
>>106714658So? SPD has never been afraid to change basic law
>>106713811where is this military phone you speak of i did not see one on last visit at unit
>>106714767They don't get 2/3 without AfD anymore
>>106714114>There is not a single case in EU history where a member state vetoed and prevented a dystopian measure from getting into effect.Except all the past occurences of this very same chat control proposal being binned, of course...
>>106714889>except the times when something got temporarily delayedyes, and in the end, all the cucks agree.If the opinion of member states would actually be relevant, the EU Commission wouldn't even exist. The Lisbon treaty got rejected by multiple member states.
>>106714658>Unlike mutts we have actually functional courtsYou mean the courts that are under control of the occupation power. Those very mutts you are talking about?Wonder why its a "basic law" and not a constitution?
>>106714889And the last proposal was made by Poland... you know, the very Poland that pretends to be against Chat Control.
>>106714956The basics laws are the constitution you fucking retard
>>106714101Nope, only the US, UK and Israel are. Russia and EU are not.
>>106714431This is true and quite Interesting to think about. The sad truth is that there won't be any domain that's freedom and privacy respecting. Linux and free android ROMs will not be accepted.
>>106714822>military doesn't have personal and uses perfect opsecEglin leaks on Reddit and the Strava Global Heatmap leak come to mind.
>>106715034Don't forget the time zogbots leaked their whole grand counteroffensive plan on discord.A counteroffensive that they then did anyway. Exactly at the front they said they will do it with the exact gear they said they will use.... and then exploded and died.Military personal is known to be especially retarded. But we are supposed to believe that they are almighty and the worlds best and never criticism them.Which is fine with me, because if they can't acknowledge flaws and mistakes, they will never improve. ZOG is an easy enemy.
>>106714658I've seen my country's basic laws being ignored or misinterpreted when it's convenient. Don't be so naive.
>>106713847you mean walk in place someone in cageattempt profitsit time
>>106714996Russia and the EU are extremely anti-white
>>106715199>I've seen my country's basic laws being ignored or misinterpreted when it's convenient. Don't be so naive.The law is the last resort and only barely holds under good times. Especially in Germany. If you know enough about the german juridicative you very quickly come to the conclusion that it's not independent at all.
>>106714658> it's illegalSo? That barely matters.They will just do it anyway. It's not like anyone would go to prison for it.The legal case about it's unlawfulness will take years and in the meantime chat control will be able to run and it will be implemented on every level.Once a court has come to the obvious conclusion it will probably be deemed that the manufacturers and devs can keep doing it if they want voluntarily.> "other EU countries require it, we'll just keep it going here too, for the children of course" - Google,Apple,Facebook
>>106715996That's not how we do it in Europe, mutty
>>106716024That's not how we do what?You do realize that EU law vs. national law and both clashing is not an uncommon thing. It's just that most of the time it's uninteresting shit.Every lawyer in the country including the ministry of justice have been pointing out constantly that this shit will be illegal, and still both our current and our last government consider themselves "undecided".It's very likely illegal by EU law as well, watch the EU commission care about that.What exactly do you think is going to happen if it passes?
I don't know what any of this shit is
>>106713309Kek, who would have thought it would come to this? And right after newspapers and chuds online announced LE EBIN VIGTORY OVER CHAT CONTROL too?
>>106714658We're talking about the country that has the 2nd highest number of police raids because of online posts after the UK.
>>106716191This is possible because our judicative is fundamentally, by design, utterly retardedly setup and Germany wouldn't even be allowed to join the EU these days if they didn't change it.Just to prove this isn't some jewish world conspiracy nonesense, the European Court of Justice ruled>German public prosecutor’s offices do not provide a sufficient guarantee ofindependence from the executive for the purposes of issuing a European arrestwarrantSouce: https://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs/application/pdf/2019-05/cp190068en.pdf
>>106716087>What exactly do you think is going to happen if it passes?Nothing, like always
Imagine being an adult and believing in democracy and human rights
>>106713309>They're coming for our FOSS selfhosted CSAM servers noooooooooo
>>106716248I believe you, but at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter which part of your system is the main reason why it's a dystopian shithole, it doesn't change the fact that it is.You know the EU will keep twisting chatcontrol until it passes.
