Which terminal do you use, /g/?
Whatever came by default. Call me ignorant but they're all the same to me.
>>106716357windows terminal
>>106716357is gnome shell really not bloat?
>>106716616That is foot.https://codeberg.org/dnkl/foothttps://codeberg.org/dnkl/foot/issues/27Gnome terminal is this
>>106716645actually i have never installed gnome lol thanks for the info
>>106716357>be winblows fag>use the aptly named Windows Terminal, 10/10>get macbook since I need long battery life>go through a bunch of options, eventually settle on iTerm>it's like 7/10>get a miniPC for a home server, put linux on it>everything is worse than iTerm, much less Windows Terminal; eventually settled on ghostty but it's kinda mehit's extremely funny that windows has BY FAR the best terminal when 98% of windows users will never use a terminal in their life, ever, and linux has the shittiest selection despite half the linuxfags living in it
>>106716500This. Same goes for my shell
command.com works fine
>>106716785You are using a website for your terminal? How does that work? Also, it seems to be some kind of shop
>>106716772i use ghostty on both my mac and my arch setup. what makes windows terminal so good? never used it
>>106716357>Which terminal do you use, /g/?Windows Terminal and Konsole.because I dualboot. I don't like konsole though but it's part of the package so eh, Windows Terminal is fucking great, A tier.
>>106716772>>106716819Windows terminal is fucking bloat that takes ages to load and lags. Stupid shills.Also it has an I-cursor
I use qterminal because I tinker but I do it to have an actual fully featured desktop instead of minimalist autism.
>>106716818just werks
>>106716818>what makes windows terminal so good?admittedly I'm not really using it nearly as much as the average linuxfag or somebody who's deploying shit remotely, but winblows terminal just werksevery single functionality I wanted works there out of the box. copy, paste, selection with mouse, ctrl + left skipping bunch of characters properly, colors, highlighting, font rendering - all of it Just Works (tm). Every other terminal I've tried had some pain points>>106716833>Windows terminal is fucking bloat that takes ages to load and lagsthis might be true, all my electronics are pretty high end so those things are largely irrelevant to me
>>106716833>Windows terminal is fucking bloat that takes ages to load and lagsSeems you are rocking ancient hardware, I have a ryzen 3600 and an arc 310, and that is no where near midrange it's low end and windows terminal just work and works well.
>>106716870My laptop is only from 2017 and it has an nvidia 1060 GPUShould be more than enough.
I just use the default terminal on Mint because I have real work to do.
xfce4-terminal just werks. simple as
I enjoy tabby personally.Runs on all the platforms and even has built in support for serial shenanigans
Wayland:Kitty (better for terminal graphics)Foot (more simple)X11:Black box
>>106716877>My laptopI have a ryzen 5 7530U laptop if I remember the number correct and it just work but it seems to me laptops just have massive performance issues all together everything form browsers to native apps so windows terminal is just a bit slower also I use windows 11 on there.>>106716833> Also it has an I-cursorWhich you can change in the appearance.That's one of the big benefits, and being multi shell by design.
>>106716500only right answer, dubs don't lie.
>>106716941How can all terminals be the same? They vary immensely by design.The only people who think this are windows exiles forced to use Mint because they have no idea how the terminal works.
>>106716357Where's the option of, "I don't care and will use whatever."> Input lag I'm unironically using konsole and there isn't any input lag.
>>106716958>How can all terminals be the same?Probably talking about the shell i.e bash.
>>106716980>Where's the option of, "I don't care and will use whatever.">> Input lag >I'm unironically using konsole and there isn't any input lag.Yes, using the tty.
>suckless terminal>tinkertranny>no mention of tmuxsome broccoli headed ricer made this post
Terminal.app
>>106716980Try using it ironically. that’s when it gets laggy
>>106716958You mostly use the shell and if you need to do a lot of shit and don't want to bother with esoterics you can download Python, Perl, Node.js, hell even Java, and write a script that has socket access, filesystem access and other utilities.
>>106716357urxvt
>>106717008>>suckless terminal>>tinkertrannyYes.
>>106716772>winblows have the BEST terminal>admittedly, I used NASA supercluster to run it, never noticed anything, Im not a poorfag>admittedly, I never used it that much, I didnt do any work in it>lunucs BTFO shitty terminals!!!kek
>>106716785nice terminal
Why do zoomers use ghostty?
>>106717198>Why do zoomers use ghostty?The gnome terminal sucks maybe.
>>106717216We have alacritty at home
>>106716357I use Powershell for linux
>>106717227>alacrittyDoesn't fit at all with Gnome human design language. or what they call it. Also will it become a problem if they don't want you to have Server-side decoration after gnome 49?
>>106717241>I use Powershell for linuxThat's a shell not a terminal.Anyways I cannot have that in my distro unfortunately.
>>106716902thisbut I had to patch it because they added a retarded context menu entry to open a new tab instead of a new window as the first right option
>>106717312doesn't bother me much, I use keyboard shortcuts for that personally. ctrl-shift-T for new tab, ctrl-shift-N for new window (those are the default shortcuts)
>>106716357warp :^)
>>106717132Has the least config options of anything on the chart. Methinks someone is projecting.
>>106717391Tinker trannying is measured in the time it takes to set up. You configure it through code and patches
Hyper is the best terminal. Its like the VS Code of terminals, uses a web UI, has a huge amount of packages and customizations
I use the xfce built in terminal.
>>106717421electron trash
>>106716902sameit just works and comes default with xfce
>>106717400Editing a config file is not "coding"
Nobody here knows WezTerm ?https://wezterm.org/index.htmlI used XTerm and Urxvt before but I have to agree with all the users who said they are overrated and esoteric abandonwareWezTerm has one of the best and more open development community I have ever seen in a terminal emulator>picture unrelated
>>106717518>WezTermit's meh
>>106717518Wezterm is based.
Remember when everyone had transparent urxvt terminals
terminal is for losers, use tty instead
>>106717498You configure st through code which takes more time and effort for minimal gain. Therefore - tinkertranny
>>106716772>macOS>doesn’t use the native Terminal.appRetard
>>106716357for me, it's st. call me a tinkertranny if you wish but i'd rather apply two or three patches manually than use a shitty terminal. i tried xterm once but if i remember correctly it had some pretty unintuitive default keybindings that threw me off. i'd rather use xterm than any of the other options tho
>>106716357Windows Terminal>>106716833>freetards blatantly lyingEvery fucking time. Windows Terminal opens basically instantly for me, and I'm on a 10 year old PC. Never had lags or anything. It's a fucking terminal that writes text from my linux servers to my screen.
>>106716357eathttps://codeberg.org/akib/emacs-eat/
>>106717844There is nothing bad about being a tinker tranny. I spent 3 days ricing my I3 and Sway WM
>>106717726>takes more time and effortit doesn't take more time or effort than trannies like >>106717421. Therefore - projection
>>106716357konsole.I use KDE and there's no reason to use anything else.if i were to use something else i would go for ghostty or kitty
Terminator https://gnome-terminator.orgSplits + tabs is great if you regularly need several terms open
foot and wezterm
i use konsole because it's the kool console.
>>106717750Perhaps dear anon, it is you that is the retard. Such is the territory of the mac user. Still iTerm2 mogs
>>106716500fpbp
>>106717929kitty is made by a jeet
>>106716357>get st source>configure it>sudo make install>forget about itIt's that easy.
>>106716357ptyxis is the best terminal ive ever used by a long mile holy shit
I use kitty simply because I don't need to patch fonts to get the nerd font symbols, by default it'll fall back to them if they're missing from the font currently being used
>>106718735Searching this name only gives me Indians. So doubt.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aco63-Gy8ohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWERtyvUAcI
>>106716357https://sw.kovidgoyal.net/kitty/performance/
Ghosttybut then found out about terminal-muxersbut then realized a number of modern terminal emulators alone could provide most of my use_case
>>106717929ghostty looks looks like ass on KDE because it's GTK
foot / st anything else is pointless.
>>106716357ghostty looks great on mac probably because the dev is also a macfag
>>106718924doesnt include half the good terms with better performance.
>>106720210Such as?
>Do you like bloat?I just want a terminal that feels right, man.>Do you like overheating your GPU for no reason? -> YES -> AlacrittyWorks on my machine.>>106716645Foot is also a great terminal.
>>106716357If you even know what terminal you are using you are already a tinkertranny.I just hit Ctrl+Alt+T and whatever comes up is the one I use.
>>106717518For me WezTerm is the only one that was able to replace almost all of my complicated and idiosyncratic tmux setup, including modal key bind layers and remote use
>>106720453>Foot is also a great terminal.For some reason it doesn't work over ssh though
i use kitty because i like kitties
>>106716817>>106717162sigh.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COMMAND.COM
>>106716357urxvt (rxvt-unicode) is faster than xterm
>>106716357alacritty uses max like 3% of my 10 year old gpu even if the whole screens being redrawn frequently, idk what you're doing
>>106720180
Ghostty had weird issues the one time i tried it which stemmed from its advertising itself as TERM=xterm-ghostty which no software supportsTheir plan to fix this is "hopefully eventually all software will support our terminal"These tinkerers are not serious but in case they are I'm sure it will be a great terminal in ten years
>>106716357>linux>/dev/tty>xterm>emacs-libvterm>windows>cmd.exe>msys2>whatever term runs powershell
>>106716357ST is the only suckless software that’s actually suckless, lol. Since tmux handles all the heavy lifting anyway, all you really need is just the terminal emulator
>>106723377for the shit I use, it apparently doesn't support Sixels, but does support Kitty images
>>106717162damn are you rendering html as your neofetch logo
Termux
>>106716357>pic: yeah bro just remember all programs by their icons
I use tty2
>>106716500>Whatever came by default.This.
>>1067222193% is 3% too much
>>106716357wezterm
>>106716357ghostty
why do all of my fonts look like this in terminator ahhhhhhhhh
>>106724937>serif font in terminalu wot m8
>>106725642it's like that on all fonts. they're space far away and have height as long as my dick
>>106716833>takes ages to load and lagsNo problems here on my Core i3-6100 that's almost certainly older than you are.
>>106717591I still use urxvt with a transparent background.
>>106724935>ghosttyThe tranny's terminal of choice.
>>106720180is that a man?
>>106716819What's wrong with Konsole?
Never noticed input lag. Is it really a thing?
>>106726592yes
>>106727022the average fa/g/ uses a thinkpad from 2014 as their primary device
>>106727022no it's not.
>>106716500yeah tree should only be one question>are you a tinker trannythen anything besides the default
>>106716357>do you like bloat>no>do you use waylandThis graph makes no sense at all.
lmao he changed the background image, what a tinkertranny
>>106727804Wayland has less LoC than X11 ...
>>106727804Xorg takes up way more resources once you add a compositor. I hope you're fine with using xterm on twm if you want it to compete with Wayland.
>>106716645>berg No thanks.
>>106717198>>106717227https://mitchellh.com/writing/ghostty-is-coming>With Ghostty, I set out to build a terminal emulator that was fast, feature-rich, and had a platform-native GUI while still being cross-platform. I believe Ghostty 1.0 achieves all of these goals.
>>106727969we already have tmux. even the ghostty zoomers use tmux with neovim because they think it makes them legit.
>>106727969that's a very MacOS-centric list of terminal apps to compare. So ghostty is for Mac users. I see.
Yakuake, the terminal shouldn't be a seperate window but a permanent fixture with a shortcut key.
>>106716357Who is recognising all these terminals by the logo? I only know the suckless logo and the gnome foot.
>>106728028that sounds like you never used iterm.iterm's tmux integration is superb.
>>106727892>once you add a compositorNot many do this. Xorg has a tear free option if you really need it
>>106728168Ewww
>>106716357I use alacritty because its much faster. You really can feel the gpu acceleration especially when doing stuff like searching through huge amounts of text.
I use Gnome Terminal nowbut I WILL install URXVT on every damn machine I set upit's the OG and has never let me down
>>106716357daemonized urxvt
>>106716357Terminal.app for my stuff, iTerm for work stuff
>>106723377kitty has the same issue as well, makes it a pain on remote servers. You can override it with TERM=xterm.
>>106717518same migrated from kitty and i found it more comfortable to config
Cmd just works. I can stand shitty webui electron bloat like Windows Terminal or other "custom" crap. Cmd is fast. Besides, I only need it to ping, ffmpeg and Winget. Maybe launch a .py script.
>>106732855That is why xterm is still the best and everything else is just bloat that you didn't need and doesn't even work, hence term=xterm
foot is the best.
>>106716357Am I supposed to recognize these by icon?Add some names you autistic fuck.
>>106717089>>106721416>>106723669based>>106732318fuck yes
whatever is default
>>106723377keep up with the times, grandpa.was fixed two weeks ago:https://ghostty.org/docs/install/release-notes/1-2-0#ssh-improvements-(work-in-progress)
>>106738533>The new ssh-env opt-in feature will automatically set the TERM variable to xterm-256color for SSH sessions (as well as forward some other environment variables to make sessions work better). While not strictly correct, this band-aid solution helps more than it hurts in most cases.>The new ssh-terminfo opt-in feature will automatically copy the Ghostty terminfo to the remote machine >Both of these features are opt-in because they require overriding the ssh command in your shell. This operation is not without risk, so we want to make sure users are aware of what they're doing. No I'm not going to keep up with the times, this is fucking stupid and bad
>>106738533>>106738815>as well as forward some other environment variables to make sessions work better>some other environment variablesIf you are okay with redefining your ssh command to send some environment variables that they didn't even bother to list to every remote machine then you are certainly not employed. This is pure tinkering for the sake of tinkering
>>106738872next you find out what tmux does
bump
>>106716357I double click.
>>106717008>>no mention of tmuxtmux is a terminal multiplexer; you still need to pick a terminal emulator to use it with.
>>106716357I haven't heard a good reason to NOT use Konsole and this image is only confirming that I'm not missing anything.
>>106716357Besides picrel, what do you (You) use your terminal for?
how is the smalelst simplest no frills slightly buggy st tinkertranny?
>>106716357Kitty. It works fine. I tried ghostty but it's buggy, keyboard doesn't work as expected.
>>106716772What the fuck are you on about? The windows terminal is by far the worse of all. No colors, bad auto-complete, slow as fuck, not a single feature, and even copy/paste works poorly. It's so awful every developer uses gitbash instead.
>>106716357I'm a foot guy.
>>106741131everything
>>106716902>just werksExcept as your session ages, opening a new window takes longer and longer. After two months without rebooting it takes over a second for the background to appear.Still my terminal of choice though.
>>106716357iTerm2
>>106745206The thread isn't THAT interesting.
>>106716357>xterm>not as customizable as sucklessshit guide
>>106745678Software that can be configured is tinker tranyism. The first branch should be "are you a tinker tranny" and if you pick no it directs you to st. The rest of the terminals can be in the yes beanch somewhere.
>>106745992$ man xtermit has as many configuration
$ man xterm
>>106716357Windows Terminal
>>106745992>and if you pick no it directs you to stBRUHhttps://st.suckless.org/patches/
this is the life
>>106746130A small fraction of the options exposed by gui software. See >>106746112 eg. Besides, the increased difficulty of applying patches means most people won't use any.
>>106727599A 2014 thinkpad is perfectly capable of displaying text in a terminal.
>>106716357JNOME terminal
>>106716645A fucking foot?!
>>106716645>codebergit's always them
>>106716357foot
