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UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Build_a_PC&diff=55476&oldid=55400

>CASE
mATX: Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini
ATX: Phanteks XT PRO (ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lian Li Lancool 217, Antec C8, Antec Flux Pro
AVOID: NXZT, 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, Corsair 6500

>CPU
Budget (inc. gaming): 7500F, 9600X
Gaming: 9800X3D, 9700X
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
Premium: 9950X3D

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock AM5 board issues are still reported; BIOS must be updated before CPU installation

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB / 6000CL30
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB or 2x64GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN5000, SN7100
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Used GPU between $100-$250
Midrange: RX 9060 XT 16GB
High-end 1440p & Midrange 4K: RX 9070 XT
High-end 4K & Workstation: Used RTX 4090 or RTX 3090 ti

>PSU
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
https://www.rtings.com/monitor

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro (loud @ higher RPM), P14/Max (5-pack)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

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>>106720519
I have that AIO, I expected it to crap out by now but it seems fine
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>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/
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Continuing from the latest thread my build then looks like this:

Cpu: ryzen 7 9800X3D
Board: Asus TUF gaming B850
Gpu: asus prime rtx 5070ti
Drive: samsung 990 pro 2tb
Ram: patriot viper venom rgb 32gb 6000 cl30
Fan: thermalright phantom spirit 120 se
Psu: cooler master mwe Gold 850 v3
Case: msi mag forge


Thank you for warning me about the asrock board.
What do you think about the ram? is this one good?

No overclock in mind, I will make it last many years, probably a gpu swap down the line, mostly for gaming an 3D modeling, sculpting, texturing and rendering.
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>>106717348
>and ran my stress tests
Is this a real thing I need to care about? I don't remember anything like that when I built my first computer 12 years ago. How do I even do this, what am I supposed to be figuring out with these tests?
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>>106720804
if you're just doing the standard 6000c30 you can just download occt and run auto stress test
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>>106720804
>Is this a real thing I need to care about?
maybe
>I don't remember anything like that when I built my first computer 12 years ago
intel wasn't pushing their CPUs as hard back then
AMD was (FX-9590) but no one bought those
>what am I supposed to be figuring out with these tests?
if the system is stable or not
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>>106720804
right up until people decided to use ram that didnt work at the claimed speeds and there was a trend of "undervolting" you did not need to be worried, but here we are
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Why do cringy PC-building youtubers/tiktokers call themselves "system integrator"? Hermano you're online marketer.
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>>106720804
I'm the poster you're replying to. I have never stress tested a build before, but I plan on selling this rig so I figured it was good practice. Like the other anon said, I just ran a few 5 minute OCCT tests. Could have been more thorough but I was satisfied personally.
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can this piece of shit handle an i9 13/14k?
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As a budgetfag with a relatively strict budget, should I go for a 'high end' 5060 TI 16GB (Asus Prime) or a 'low end' RTX 5070? (Zotac, I think?). I know that the 5070 will have better raw performance, but I am only doing 1080p, and I'd prefer a quieter card, which I assume the 'better' model 5060 will be.
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>>106720906
Both pretty quiet you dont need "high end" cooler for a 180W card. Either save money and get a cheaper 5060ti or the 5070. The 5070 undervolt pretty good and you can easily run it at the same tdp as the 5060ti without losing any performance.
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>>106720901
it's right on the edge of acceptable
note that they're using 125W PL2 in the power limited tests, which is not stock behavior on a 14900K
https://www.hwcooling.net/en/msi-b760m-gaming-plus-wifi-a-cheap-motherboard-with-a-surprise-review/34

do you already own the board? 14700K and a board that can handle higher power draw/memory frequency would give you better performance
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>>106720948
>do you already own the board
yeah and already have the 12700k, i was just thinking of a possible future upgrade
i was thinking of returning it and getting an aorus board which i assume has better vrms but i really like my ps/2 keyboard
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>>106720679
bumping this, my build looks similar to this and i wanna know what other anons think
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>>106720976
i'd get a 14700K and set a power limit of like 200 W
should keep the VRMs nice and cool and if you undervolt it will still maintain stock performance or better

all you get with a 14900K is 4 more E-cores (so the same as 1 more P-core) and a higher default turbo bin
the 14900K needs higher voltage to run 60x than a 14700K needs to run 56x, so it's not like the silicon is significantly better
not worth it IMO
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i have a 1060 6gb, feel just a tiny bit of need to upgrade but i'm a cheap fuck so should i wait? what's good on the horizon
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>>106721014
5070 super is worth waiting untill around Q1 next year if you have >600$ budget for the gpu.
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>Intel + Nvidia = Faggot Normie Consoomer or Indian
>Ryzen + Nvidia = Reddit
>Intel + Arc = Brain Damage
>Ryzen + Arc = Schizo
>Intel + Radeon = Schizo
>Ryzen + Radeon = Real PC Enthusiast #Pewdiepie approved
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>>106721091
>>Ryzen + Radeon = Real PC Enthusiast
even people who are using APUs?
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>>106721091
>>106721160
Both mentally ill now kiss.
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Where are people buying their Windows 11 Pro keys nowadays?
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>>106721014
if you're not upgrading your whole system consider getting something used, i was looking into getting a 5060 but it seems as though a 3070 will preform better on my AM4 system because PCIe bandwith.
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>>106721209
I buy them from the AMD leaker man’s link, they seem pretty low priced and I’ve never had an issue.
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>>106721209
i buyded mine from newegg.
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>>106721209
Massgrave you retard
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Anyone have monitor recommendations? It seems the only one worth getting is the gigabyte AORUS FO32U2P.
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I know this might be a dumb question, but I'm looking into getting a new monitor, particularly an ultra wide curved one. Should I go with a OLED if I do anything besides play games/watch movies/surf the web? I draw/write a good amount and like to have multiple file explorer windows open with tons of reference up. I've read burn-in can be a major issue with OLEDs after a few years and I don't really want to replace a 1k+ usd monitor after after 2-3 years.
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>>106721209
windows is free
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>>106721546
https://www.displayninja.com/best-oled-monitor/
The 4K 32" models are worse than than the 27" 4K models to the lower pixel density making color fringing worse. I'd suggest a 27" 4K model with DP 2.1 for full uncompressed 240Hz:
>MSI MPG 272URX
>ASUS PG27UCDM
>AOC AG276UZD
>Philips 27M2N8800
>ViewSonic XG273-4K-OLED
Whichever of those is the cheapest.

>>106721588
>I know this might be a dumb question, but I'm looking into getting a new monitor, particularly an ultra wide curved one. Should I go with a OLED if I do anything besides play games/watch movies/surf the web? I draw/write a good amount and like to have multiple file explorer windows open with tons of reference up. I've read burn-in can be a major issue with OLEDs after a few years and I don't really want to replace a 1k+ usd monitor after after 2-3 years.
So for games/movies you definitely want an OLED as it's night-and-day better. But for a multi-window productivity usage you're better off with an LCD as you'll get burn in in the middle window borders side by side. I'd get a combo of an OLED + 4K IPS for fun/work mounted on VESA arms to swap back and forth.
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>>106720679
asrock is still eating AMD CPUS.

IT"S STILL HAPPENING
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I HATE HOW THERES ONE RESIDENT AMD SCHIZO WHOS TERMINALLY ONLINE ENOUGH TO CONSISTENTLY RUIN THE OP. AS SOON AS I HAVE FREE TIME IM TURNING THIS INTO AN NVIDIA/INTEL ONLY GENERAL AND IM GOING TO MAKE NICO TROON SHIT HERSELF AND CRY UNCONTROLLABLY
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HEY PUBLV SEVICE ANOUNCMENT : THE 14600K IS ON SALE, HOW DO YOU LIKE THEM APPLES AMD=SHILLS???
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>>106722111
faggot meet gay retard
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>>106722144
NOOOOO you can't buy that you have to listen to my favorite techtuber and buy the overpriced 8 core for the best gaming experience (tm)
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>>106722144
they could be free and i still wouldnt get one
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>>106722144
>180w for middling performance
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>>106721838
I like my big monitor size though and all my other monitors are 32". You really think its worth it going for the 27" ?
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>>106722111
>>106722144
Mad? Kill yourself retard. No one is buying this craptel junk and that is the only reason they keep lowering the price more and more btw.
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>>106722144
Cyberpunk/BF6 highlights how much of a joke Intel is. Double the wattage for not even same perf as a 9600X3D.
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>>106722331
nigger subhuman you are still seething about the 4090
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>>106722336
cyberpunk/bf6 highlihgts how much of a joke cdpr/EADICE are also
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>>106722194
>IS LIKE 50W IN 99% OF GAYMING SCENERIOS IN YOURE PATH
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO SAY NOW FAGLORD?
UNDER MOST FULL CORE WORKLOADS ITS FASTER A 9800X3D BTW
>>106722331
FUCK YOU NIGGER, SHILL ALL YOU WANT, BUT THE OP AND RESPONSES TO PEOPLE GENUINELY NEEDING HELP SHOULD BE AT LEAST MOSTLY UNBIASED
MAYBE IF YOU DIDN'T SPEND SO MUCH TIME BEING A FAGGOT YOU WOULDN'T BE MAKING LESS THAN $20 AN HOUR
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>>106722393
Intel handhelds don't exist because they would die 2x as fast at half the Framerate
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>>106722322
>I like my big monitor size though and all my other monitors are 32". You really think its worth it going for the 27" ?
For OLED 100%, blame the non-striped RGB subpixel layout. You quickly get used to the size difference after a week.
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>>106722336
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>>106722393
both of those run fine on intel the dude is just brainwashed by HUB
>>106722452
very nice example actually, imagine publishing results like these and not being immediately fired
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>>106722413
except they wouldn’t have disgusting inefficient POODNA graphics
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>>106722452
5600/MTs
No

>>106722464
>>106722479
Retarded jits
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>>106722464
i dont care how well they run, they're both dumbed down trash games
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>>106722446
Same for the QD?
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>>106722531
getting a high benchmark score IS the game
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>>106722546
retard. even coding on a c2d toaster is more fun than running benchmarks
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>>106722542
(Unfortunately) yes, just not as severe as the penalty for WOLED.



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