I want to buy a VR headset but i don't know which one.The last one i was interested in but i didn't have money years and years ago was the HTC vive, so i don't know specifics of what's on the market right now.Do headsets still need a good graphics card to use? I have an RX 5700 XT, 8GB vram.>Usecase?Porn.Oh and games i guess. Google maps in VR looked cool too.
I also want a vr headset. I would ideally like to code with it and also just have vr scenes like chilling in a forest. Also porn.
>>106722323Is the meta quest 3s any good for said usecases? And does it need a fucking meta account to do anything with?
>>106722323>>106722338there's only one answer for pc based VR: bigscreen beyond 2
Just get a quest 3
>>106722323If you want to use your pc go with BSB if you're fine with standalone or you want something cheaper go for the quest
>>106722323Your options are limited to Meta and the BSB since M$ discontinued Windows Mixed Reality (WMR) which 99% of the other headsets relied on to work.
>>106722323 you need a quest 3, elite strap with battery, and virtual desktop software for remote access to your PC including steamvr. Vrchat unironically is the killer app.
>>106722974Vr chat is literally just chat with anime avatars or is there more to it?
>>106722974I'm horny thinking right now, but would it be possible to have 2 accounts play vr chat at the same time?One on desktop, just afk but in a pose, and the other is me, in vr doing the things. Does quest 3s have body tracking?>virtual desktop software for remote access to your PCMy pc that is less than 3 meters away?
PSVR2 owner here, using it on a PC.the OLED screens blow the Quest 3's away, having perfect blacks is critical for VR, dark scenes look amazing.black on a Quest 3 looks dark grey, its awful.
>>106722323megane superlightX if you want 8k, which is a yes if you're watching porn
>>106722554>>106722728>>106722937>>106722974quest is a no go on amd>>106722619but then you have to spend $700 on tracking and controllers
>>106722619>bigscreen beyond 2serious dead pixel problem, shitloads of people return it
>>106723693I thought AMD drivers nowadays were decent for VR.
Still have my old cv2
>>106723670>PSVR2 owner here, using it on a PC.don't you have to juggle a million drivers and setup bullshit to pull it off?
BSB buys dont realize that eyes usually are lopsided and skulls arent symmetrical.Despite the facescan they dont really bother aligning the eyes to the center of the lenses when they're making the mold.
>>106722323The market is very simpled right now. Get a quest 3 for general use or get a bulky DP based headset for sim games. (pixmax)
>>106723693I haven’t wasted my money on AMD since RDNA so I wouldn’t know. My RX580 was the best AMD GPU I ever owned. RDNA1 was hot garbage by comparison >>106725198OP has RDNA1. It has always been a dumpster fire. And the fact that he is still using it means he is either a thirdie/poorfag, or in complete denial.
I had a Quest 2 (same optics as a Quest 3S) and I upgraded to a Quest 3. I highly recommend the Quest 3. Also if you are going PC VR you really want a 5070 TI / 7800x3D equivalent. I had a RTX 4070 which wasn't good enough.
>>106728801Quest 3s can do standalone stuff though too can't it? Link cable is only $40 so there's no harm in me trying pc vr. I might get the headset tomorrow.
>>106722323I have yet to see a reasonable upgrade to my old HTC Vive that's worth the money. We're almost 10 years into mainstream VR and we're still compromising on basic shit like fov and refresh rate.>144hz>4k per eye>high fov>foveated rendering>3d camera array passthrough>inside out tracking+lighthouse tracking>wireless>lightweight>finger tracking controllers/gloves>no locked in meta bsI'm not dropping new laptop prices on a device that doesn't hit 9/10 of these.
Quest 2 + 6900xt here, works fine. Upgrading to a Quest 3 soon cause there are cheap prescription inserts and I'm sick of wearing contacts while playing. Gonna grab a 7900xtx once they drop another hundo or 2 for that 24gb vram
>>106730285The Quest 3 and 3S have the same cpu/gpu. Both can do standalone. Some even say the 3S runs a little better because it has a slightly lower resolution than the Quest 3. That said you won't notice because the lenses are bad on the the 3S. With regards to the link cable. No, I use wireless. I highly recommend a good router and paying $20 (in the Meta store,) for Virtual desktop. I use the tp link AXE5400. I tried the free options (Oculus link and Steam link) and both I had so much trouble for like two years. Virtual Desktop worked so easy with little configuration that I was mad at myself for spending so much effort on the others.
Absolutely get a quest 3. It can run stuff natively and has awesome pass through. And you can wirelessly stream from pc to it with vr desktop. Its also not a fucking thousand dollars. Its like $500.
>>106732039Given many people don't play their VR headsets much. Part of me wants to say just get the 3S and then if you really play a lot get the Quest 4. But because we have no clue if the 4 is even coming out next year I think the Quest 3 is the better option.
>>106722323>Do headsets still need a good graphics card to use? I have an RX 5700 XT, 8GB vram.that's a bit weak for the highest end of what's out there todayjust get a Quest 3 and try things out and see how you feelthat or a PSVR2 with adapter
>>106731218I think you aren't being realistic. To drive what you say your only option is a RTX 5090. Virtual Desktop even has options now to reduce FOV to increase PCVR performance with the current Quest 3.
>>106732051I play mine maybe once a week for like a half hour. Fun to go in there and slash some guys in blade and sorcery or do a round or two i arkham shadow
>>106732063I'm not talking about the underlying hardware to drive it at full capacity. I'm just saying it's been a decade since the VR hype first started and it's been a massive disappointment for most people.Foveated rendering has been talked about for a decade and would massively improve performance. Still no word. The valve index has barely more fov than my og Vive. It also weights a ton more which was my biggest complaint with the Vive. Also, it's still wired. We had a vive wireless adapter in fucking 2018.10 years of improvements led to incremental benefits but nothing groundbreaking. Bigscreen beta 2 is the only one I've seen that really feels like an upgrade but 75-90hz + no cameras + pricetag is horrible.
>>106732060Here's my plan:>Get a quest 3s tomorrow and link cable (wifi on this end of the house isnt great).>Its cheap>See how it goes>7 day store return policy if its really bad>Upgrade computer entirely in a year because windows 10 support and 5 year old AMD graphics card>If i still like VR, get a better VR headset, or see how it goes with better PC.Thanks anons.
>>106722323quest3s is enough for any porn that exists, supports 8k AV1 60fps
>>106732324>link cableget LAN to usb-c dongle with power, the USB link might be worse and will only work with meta link, and LAN will work with steam link and virtual desktop
You shouldn't. VR is fun for a week or two.Porn is also a big issue with AMD graphics cards, my 7600XT cannot run anything above 4k res because they don't have proper decoding support. The screens are also extremely low resolution when compared with regular monitors.
>>106734352>AMDsorry for your loss
>>106732170I bought an Index purely because I despised the Vive wands, and they're barely an upgrade. First, the lighthouses are worse. They're so much worse that I actually just migrated back to the Vive ones, the Index ones kept constantly turning themselves on at random for no reason. The controllers are hot dogshit because they added the stupid touchpad, which forces the analog sticks into an awkward, uncomfortable position. Grip sensing is a complete gimmick and a button would be better. And the headset is mediocre, the only real improvement over the Vive is the audio and a slight res bump that's still a million miles away from being usable.4k per eye is laughable. 8k per eye (8000x8000=16k total) would be just about usable for a 120 FOV headset, and most people can't even run 4k. We're 20 years off VR being remotely usable, let alone good.
>>106722554Get a quest 3, worth it for the pancake lenses. I have a spare room I use for vr, connecting to a PC located in another room in the house using a dedicated router I bought for $50. It's pretty much perfect for me, no full body tracking but no tethering. I hook the headset to a battery pack in my back pocket so when PC gaming it can last for 5 hours plus, less if playing a standalone quest 3 game. Also, standalone quest games are really easy to pirate using a sideloader.
>>106722980Go to /vrg/ on /vg/. Take a look at the tranny circlejerk. Then never bother installing VRChat.
>>106722554>fucking meta accountit's not a facebook account, it didn't even ask for my phone number, but the phone is required to activate the headset
I have an Index. I wanted to get a Quest 3 headset, but I don't want to use its controllers, I want to keep using mine because inside-out tracking is ass cancer. Can I continue to use my tracked controllers with a Quest headset?
redpill me on vr/xr/ar I don't get the difference, all just seem a screen to me close to your eyesthat said, I literally looking for that, rn I'm using a portable monitor and if I could replace it with glasses/headsets which don't kill my eyes after extended use I would switch in a heartbeat, but have no idea what should I look into. Eying some Rayneo chinkware because they are cheap and worst case I can write off $200-300, Use case is coding on loonix + browsing
>>106722323If you're poor, just get a Quest. They subsidise the price so it's good value. If you have money, get an RTX 5090. Then if you want a wired headset, pre-order the Pimax Dream Air. If you want a wireless headset, either get the Play For Dream MR (available now) or wait for Valve's Deckard or upcoming Android XR headsets. Valve just released a big Steam Link update that adds eye-tracked foveated transport, which is a game-changer on the Play For Dream. >>106722619lol, lmao even. Bigscreen Beyond looks pretty but just has inferior specs. Way overpriced for what it is. Low resolution, low refresh rate, colour shifting, overheating, dead pixels.
>>106734614First, check your PPD. Measure your eye distance from your screen to determine PPD.Typically, PPD is around 60. A good PPD on a high PPI display will be around 90-150. VR tops out about 35 PPD right now, which is atrocious, and most VR headsets are in the 15-30 range. These are near unusable for text. The short focal distance causes eye strain, and that chink garbage you linked is "1080p", which is comically awful. As a rule of thumb, any VR spec should be divided by 3 to get a real world equivalent, due to the difference in FOV. So "1080p" becomes 360p.
Quests are great. I'm 90% sure they sell them at a loss to crowd out alternatives. But if you want full body tracking and 0 fuss for PC use, basestation based headsets are where it's at. Vive is good and cheap, Index is great and Bigscreen beyond is probably the best you can recommend. Only consider Varjo, if you're an oil baron or something like that.
>>106734683thanks for saving me $200 senpai. Back to waiting another year or two
>>106734614you can connect hdmi-usb-c dongle to quest2/3 and it will act as a 1080p monitor
>>106722323If you are not low income buy>Play for DreamIt is basically quest 3, without Zuck Cuck Meta spying.And it's much, much better.But buy external battery.If you are low income, buy Pico 4If you are smart, wait few months for few new ones that are soon to be revealed.
>>106734820https://www.meta.com/quest/quest-3s/buy-128gb/says it is wireless with 2.5h battery life, is it possible to use it while being charged? I would love to work 2.5h a day, but my employer might be dissatisfied.also, does it work in 'dumb' mode? E.g. I want a portable plug and play display, no phone apps and meta accounts if possiblealso
>>106735963>portable plug and play display, no phone appsthen get a portable flat display
>>106736821this is what I want to improve on, I'm using a cheap arzopa atm, but a wearable display is enticing, I need to move this stuff a lot
>>106723670Yep, PSVR2 owner here as well. VRC looks very nice on it and the firmware updates have improved it a bit. It’s still fussy but the OLED blacks are great and it feels relatively good on the face. You’re also getting Sony build quality which is pretty good.
>>106734292What? You're saying picrel connects to the headset with usbc, and the computer with an ethernet cable. And it works?>>106734488>standalone quest games are really easy to pirate using a sideloader.Is it this sidequest program i see?
I'm waiting for whatever Valve makes next
Does asmr scene/content exist for vr headsets? If yes, then how good is it?
>>106734292>>106738682apparently after the v74 update meta made it impossible to use ethernet over usb c, but try it and let us know otherwise.i never knew this was a thing myself or else i wouldve been doing it long ago>>106738809yes, good. either jav stuff or get into vrc.
>>106739582what are you talking about, I literally just now plugged in a belkin usb-c-ethernat adapter (with charging passthrough) into quest3s v79, disabled wifi and can use the browser
>>106722980There’s more to it, but just like real life you become who you surround yourself with. >>106734504Most /vg/ and /vrg/ users I encounter aren’t well adjusted. I have a couple /vrg/ users as friends and don’t see them anymore. They surround themselves with a lot of dysfunctional autists these days.
>>106739737insane, i guess my source was wrong, but im also going to test it out myself>>106739738>They surround themselves with a lot of dysfunctional autists these days.being obsessed with vr of all things is pretty autistic so
Now, one that works well with wayland. I'll wait, lol.
>>106739781>I'll waityou're supposed to write your own driver
>>106739752I was a desktop player exclusively from 2018-25 and recently got a PSVR2. You don’t really need VR to play VRChat. You do need to avoid being an autistic asshat and remotely interesting to others though. /vrg/ players I’ve encountered fall into both camps.
>>106739805I think there are hacked psvr2 drivers to support eye tracking in vrchat
>>106739805you dont need it but alot of people filter out desktop usersthere are interesting people on both sides so it doesnt really matter>>106739819theyre not really hacked in anymore because it got leaked, go to /vg/ and ask about it
>>106739819There are. I might be getting a friend to help me with em soon.
>>106739752>im also going to test it out myselfLet us know how it goes. >>106739738>Most /vg/ and /vrg/ users I encounter aren’t well adjustedI've been playing VR chat on desktop, just trying to find models and worlds. I went on a couple public worlds and yikes. Those people are not sane. Why do they all talk about joining the military too?I'll stick with singleplayer VR chat.
>>106739833>a lot of people filter out desktop usersPerfect. They were never worth my time to begin with. I’ll keep that in mind when people ask me why I like desktop.The secret sauce to VRC really is being intentional about who you add and making a point to get to know who your friends added. You do have to be interesting yourself to play that way though. You also gotta be good to others.
>>106739853You needed to be playing in 2018 or 2019 to meet decent people in Public instances. Unfortunately for you the best route is meeting people in Group+ instances. Group+ is inferior because it puts people who need to be in control with people who need controlled and neither are interesting. Do Group+, add people and try to function in Friends+. Friends+ is the best mode to play.
>>106739862>I’ll keep that in mind when people ask me why I like desktop.youre either poor or retarded or bothmost desktop and vr users dont care that much dawg but you do youalso when you have a vr focused community youre expected to use a hmd, why else would you be there?no better than /v/ who talks about things they never play
>>106739892Thanks. I’m doing great without you. And you’re right, people worth a damn don’t care if you use VR or Desktop.Those are your shitty optics, not mine. I’m there to make friends with interesting people and world creators.
>>106739919>Those are your shitty optics, not mine.its a simple observation if you spent any real time on the platform you'd know yourself lol.dont take my word for it, have fun yourself.
>>106739935You have fun being led around in your life, kiddo.
>>106739973have fun having everyone tell you the same thing
>>106739853Public instances these days seem to be for social rejects and people creating new accounts for a “fresh start” from their drama (they created).
>>106723032>would it be possible to have 2 accounts play vr chat at the same time?>One on desktop, just afk but in a pose, and the other is me, in vr doing the things.I want to know as well, I know it's possible but the specifics escape meOr any easy way to plap VR girls without resorting to ERPing with troons in VRC
>>106740195in some vrchat worlds you can see your avatar dance and do stuff
>>106722323quest 3. great value. but only if ur okay with pozzed software/OS. I dont think there is a full on jailbreak out there atm, but I would hope to be wrong.>>106723693and yeah idk much shit about AMD with VR but honestly I just feel bad for you faggots getting that AMD shit. I can understand it though, but what confuses me is going for a Quest 3 as well. Perhaps it meant u thought AMD was superior in some sort of cost/performance manners, rather than any social stance against big corpos or wtv. Then that makes sense. But then I must ask: Look at the shit you deal with. Ah well, guess you made a mistake, but it's probably more complicated than that. God speed you fucking retards. I kind of respect it.
FYI for anyone reading: The "amd is bad for VR" meme died almost a decade ago. Don't fall for marketeers.
this thread inspired me to dig my quest 2 out of the closet and yep, the lenses are still dogshit and give me a headache
>>106741127Check out LuxVR. It reduces blue light and is free. Prior to LuxVR I couldn’t use a headset.
>>106741127It is five years old now. Let it go. I gave mine away to a cousin.
>>106734513>have to use a shartphone to activate glorified shartphoneThe absolute state.
>>106732324>>106740195Ok got it, set it up and im already in steamvr.Got into vrchat (singleplayer) and things were working.Now i gotta not use that, and use the default vrchat on the meta marketplace. But that needs an account which i was setting up, bumped the headset and all the info fields cleared. Its gonna take a week to type them back in.Great time for steam sale too, might get skyrimvr.
>>106743713Ok so i am able to run desktop mode on steam and then meta vr standalone. But holy shit the meta version is pozzed. They removed anything with a dick. And if you want to view a desktop user, good luck because its pixellated, and if it isnt, still no dick.
>>106723693>no go on amdkinda your problem. Im sure every forum ever have warned you against AMD doing any non trivial GPU load
>>106722619BSB is a meme that leans heavily on the ifag filter to get people who are easily susceptible to sunk costs, elitism and buying overpriced shit. >>106723693What's the problem on AMD? Sure you need to make sure to use the RADV drivers instead of AMDVLK, but that seems to be it.I haven't noticed a major issue yet on a new AMD GPU.>>106731218Unfortunately I think the chances of getting all that died when the modern smartphone launched and set the industry paradigm for the next couple of decades of everyone having their own walled proprietary garden.>>106739781WiVRN seems to work decently.
>>106744061Good news is google earth VR is awesome.And i was able to get a 180degree nsfw working, but thats nothing to do with vrchat models. If anyone knows of good male nsfw models for the quest let me know. I've got plenty of featureless crotch females.
>>106744755>male nsfw modelsthat's gay
Anyone try out the vive ultimate trackers? How is the tracking quality and resistance to drift, especially doing high-activity stuff?I have a full lighthouse tracker set up (Pimax Crystal Light, Index Controllers, Vive lighthouse trackers). But I want a wireless + face tracking option, and it's not looking feasible to find one like that with the lighthouse tracking built in. I'm aware of the cludge solution of bolting a tracker to the headset.I've tried the inside-out tracking on the Crystal Light and honestly I prefer it for headset-only contexts like flight sim or passive media. So I know inside-out tracking works in the context of a single device. I just need some reassurances it can properly localize multiple devices in space, which is definitely a whole new layer of complexity over the single device problem.
>>106744507BSB is actually fantastic as someone who prefers wired PCVR especially on Linux as there isn't anything better
>>106744507>What's the problem on AMD?8k video encode/decode
>>106722323Quest 3.I happen to be an expert in VR headsets.
>>106745910There's no reason to get the VUTs over lighthouse trackers. If you want worse tracking, then go for slimes or something. If you want the gold standard, lighthouse tracked is the way.
>>106746845It's hit or miss. Some people hate the glare, or it doesn't fit right, or it overheats, or some other little thing. For a $1200 headset that needs $300 of lighthouses and another $300 of controllers, it shouldn't be hit or miss. It should be solid. All people wanted from a VR headset is the index 2. Lighter, better screen/lenses. Done.
>>106747315yea it is hit or miss depending on face shape, gasket scan, etc.i've had a great time with the 1 and 2e but I have friends who have had lesser experiences that I couldn't replicatejust 2 more weeks for Deckard, but it'll be standalone wifi slop :^)
>>106746845The BSB2 just came out and there might be dead pixel related QA issues. Might not be a bad idea to wait and see how that shakes out. A PSVR2 is great for the money if you’re playing VRC with it. No Meta nonsense either.
>>106747532PSVR2 is a lowkey great headset but hobbled by shitting sony decisions. Tracking can sometimes be un-usably bad, and when the cable goes there's no replacement. If you get one with tracking that works then it will actually be a great headset until the cable dies. No cap. Will need a little box to make it work on PCVR though.Quest 3 is the usual go-to though. Used ones are cheap, it's pretty well QA'd and reliable, and if you have a good wifi connection or get a dedicated AP it's going to be solid on PC.
>>106747551Attaching the cable to the headset itself is a lousy move. Tracking can be a mess too to your point. I don’t understand how people think VR is a viable market segment. It’s a niche at best. The amount of hurdles you have to jump JUST to use VR is ridiculous. I wouldn’t have bought PSVR2 at $599 but $349 was reasonable enough.
>>106747922>The amount of hurdles you have to jump JUST to use VR is ridiculous.>he didn't configure network and sound for dos games in the 90s
Buy quest 2
>>106748913Yes but it's 2025 and such jewish shenanigans should be illegal.It being difficult due to tech limits is one thing, but having it done on purpose for profits is another matter entirely.We wouldn't have made such big technological leaps if x86 came locked down from the start like they do with everything else they make nowadays.
Hijacking this thread, looking for something, be it a visor or an actual vr headset that I can carry around at work to watch anime/family guy/anything while doing the end of the day cleaning, either standalone or to connect to my iPhone I was unironically considering the apple vision if it ever goes down to a human price
>>106749300if you just want a display on your head something like XREAL ONE PRO glasses are probably more up your alley
>>106745170Its not gay if i need one to make it straight.Otherwise i'd just be doing yuri, which is also the other side of gay.
>>106749354>if you just want a display on your headYeah pretty much, I only want a video player I can keep on my peripheral view while I do something elseBonus point if other people can't see what I'm seeing
>>106749501all vrchat players are male and if you have a male avatar only gays will approach and sex you
