Is there an alternative?
IRC
It wouldn't matter if there was, I would understand my friendgroup not being interested in installing separate software to do the same thing but with privacy.
Teamspeak 6 server is in openbeta
Matrix
>>106725941meeting up irl
No
>>106726132>Teamspeak 6oh sheiiit, even NASA is using TS, so it must be safe, right?
>>106725941What do zoomies even use it for? I feel like my brother treats it like chat gpt if chat gpt was backended by human brains, which is more retarded even than using chat gpt
>>106726232I use it to shit talk on the typescript server
>>106725941I got my account banned for 24 hours for posting this.
Element/Matrixit has big active servers and isn't bad UI wise
qtox
>>106725941
>>106725941There's plenty but no one is using them, and you won't get people to join either.
>>106725941No, and there likely never will be. There isn't going to be a "ditch teamspeak and skype" moment for the internet ever again. What is more likely is ditching the internet entirely and moving back to real life.>>106726232I shit you not, it's Reddit but in real time. That's essentially how the kids are using it. This is why I think it will never disappear, and even if it does whatever comes along next will be far worse.
>>106726466how do they have so many users but nobody talks about it? I don't know a single person who uses it.I am using discord only for the Js/TS servers or nodejs. does something like this exist on matrix?
>>106726555It's mostly used in-house at government agencies that don't want to run teams from what I understand
>>106726232you are so out of touch it hurts manits the default gamer chat program, voice chat, text chat, uploading images, streaming your games to other people in your servers, come on man how have you not even touched it yet
>>106725941Is there a self hosted open source alterantive, client and server?
>>106726649I see
>>106726232tranny grooming
>>106726232Unfortunately, an alternative to wikis
>>106725941If you need something like this in the first place you are part of the problem.
>>106726462>kaguya's top amigoThey're all Mexican btw
>>106726555I use matrix for some Rust projects.
>>106725941>the daily Discord shilling thread by Discord asking others to do their market research for themYes you globalist corporate pro grooming shill and I'm working on itwww.tincanapp.org>literally just need an email address to sign up>cross platform desktop client for Windows, Linux and basic browser usage>supports multimedia>mobile version in the works>self manage your own aes and pgp keys in the desktop clients for schizos who want serious encryption (clear signing built in to client)>can host your own servers entirely independent of central server, host managed servers that use central servers for routing and better visibility, and soon going to support totally hosted servers for people who just want easy setup like with Discord channelsVoice chat and background notifications are the next big feature in the works.
>>106726666I’m autistic, I have no friends online or irl.
>>106727466you're not missing much
>>106725965
>>106725941>>106725965IRL
>>106726555bankrolled by mossad
>>106726232I use it to talk with irl friends. I don't have any social media, and texting via SMS costs money (and can't really be done on desktop) so discord (actually, legcord) is the obvious choice. I don't join servers or any of that gay shit.
>>106726666>its the default gamer chat program, voice chat, text chat, uploading images, streaming your games to other people in your serversit honestly does so much, i don't think it can be replaced i don't use discord, but seeing how others use it reminds me of MSN me and my friends would actually chat a lot on it since back then there were no smartphones, and sms texts would cost money for every single messagethen msn got shutdown lol microsoft literally shot themselves in the dick, they could've had what discord is. instead they blew it
>>106725941unironically Mumblehttps://usemumble.neocities.org/has a good rundown on other options like XMPP, Jitsi, and IRC at the end too :)
>>106726555Because it's a slack replacement, not a discord replacement. At best. Practically it sucks ass.
>>106727423Where's the github for it
>>106726232imagine irc but with photo/video/music/other file uploading support and voice chatseverything is gui friendly
>>106726232>chat gpt if chat gpt was backended by human brainsIs that not what 4chan is?
>>106727865Imagine IRC but if it was IRC? Weird thing to say.
Mumble is the white man's choice
>>106725965When will you IRC hipsters give up? Noone's used IRC since AIM and MSN
>>106725941mailing lists
>>106725941Revolt chat
>>106725973There are clients compatible with more than one platform.
>>106727847Im not publishing years of RnD and work so glowies can have some quick road map to crack it. You can download the executable and start reverse engineering it if you'd like though.
>>106727843What's the difference?
>>106728098It has none of that, idiot
>>106728820If it could be cracked with the source code then it's worthless software sorry anon.
if faggots could stop suggesting something that doesn't have the most basic shit like multiline messages, edits, quote-replies, rich formatting, that'd be great
>>106729072forgot: no history also
People don't care about privacy, so, sadly, it'snot going anywhere
>>106726555because it's a honeypotmatrix.org is, at least
>>106729000This is a retarded statement. By revealing clues of what's going on, you make it easier to intercept. Revealing the source code makes it easier to map out a complex system. Letting a complex system be mapped out makes it easier to devise ways to undermine the purpose of that system. Anyone with an IQ above 70 can grasp this.Your opinion and post are useless and I'm not some retard that's going to publish source code of a system meant to help secure some degree of privacy from glowies.
>>106729317nta, security by obscurity is not security, retard
>>106729327>give me free source code>no? ok your shit is worthless lolYou're retarded or trolling.>security by obscurity is not security, retardYou sound mad you would now have to manually do the work of reverse engineering something and monitoring network traffic to figure out how to intercept communications vs look at some source code like a lazy bitch. Get good.
>>106729366Listen here you stupid niggerIf you have properly done cryptography it survives source analysis. No-one's going to run your malware.
>>106729366https://github.com/signalappGo ahead retard. Read it. This is a system that someone will use. Open cryptography, open design. Stop wasting your time writing insecure garbage that's basically as secure as someone running AFL on it and finding bugs that they will NEVER report to you.
>>106729381Listen here you glowing semen guzzling niggerfaggot.The cryptography is one aspect of this and if you were being intellectually honest you would know that.I very clearly outlined certain things, like self-hosting and how it has varying levels of communication with the central server. I am not laying out the blueprint for some lazy glowniggger simp like your to figure out how easy or hard man in the middle attacks will be.You're free to download my 11mb binary as it works on Linux and Windows. Do your own analysis before making false assertions you know nothing about, faggot.
>>106729405>here anon, read this open source repository of the messanger app that the literal US feds recommend you use!>certainly it's very super secure and not comp'd! I mean, if federal agencies like the FBI recommend it, it's DEFINITELY the best!I'm not reading that repo you faggot. Unironically neck yourself for being this retarded
>>106725941My boys be on mattermost.
>>106725941Xfire
>>106726232Not a zoomer, but I mainly use it for runescape (RS3). Every group boss has at least one sever dedicated to teamforming. Every popular activity has its own server with guides and related resources. I assume most clans have a server, at least the popular ones. There are servers that cover wide breadth of the game, such as all PVM, or small niches, such as how dyes look on each piece of gear. There are even servers dedicated to external resources, such as the wiki. Basically anything you want to do in the game likely has related discord server.In addition to all those public servers, there are plenty of smaller ones created to have a tight-knit community of good players to do bosses together, rather than deal with the public. You're basically kneecapping yourself if you want to get endgame content and you never touch discord.Besides all the "useful" stuff, I've also joined servers with the friends/acquaintances I play with, where we can talk/shitpost about the game (or anything else) and do stuff together.
>>106725941You can try making an alternative with some features that discord doesn't have, but you'd have to first create an app that has parity with discord before you can even begin thinking about adding differentiators and its no small task for something that will ultimately fail 99% of the time
>>106727825>they could've had what discord is. instead they blew itThey went all in on Skype, too. Dogshit company good for nothing idiots. >>106728820Proprietary malware then. You are destined to fail. Good as an exercise though
>>106729461Mattermost is nice
>>106729316> honeypotEncrypt your traffic with well-known encryption headers except encrypt random data and surround the encryption with provocative keywords.
>>106725941try the real world
>>106725941IRC
>>106725965chad post>>106729316it's a mossad honeypot.
>>106726132Teamspeak 5/6 tries to do MitM attacks. Everything you beyond Teamspeak 3 is going through their server unencrypted.>>106726215NASA? More like NSA trying to get ppl away from TS3
>>106725965can i screenshare on that shit my nigga
>>106726683yes I just made one, want to see it?
>>106726215they need to offer the ability to customize user interface and catch up to the times then I could see a big resurgence>>106726466this isn't quite the same though, I don't think you can stream with each other
>>106725941Feel like an ipfs/pubsub alternative could be made...Not a straight clone, something better.
there are alternatives, easily. but i find my friends just prefer to use discord and dont want to try anything else.
>>106725941The answer is no. Anyone saying otherwise is kidding themselves.
>>106729933>They went all in on Skype, too. Dogshit company good for nothing idiotsyeah it's a shame. me and my friends were so loyal, we still used skype for months and months. but in the end we dropped it. i swear they actively tried incredibly hard to push users out, and after years they got it.
>>106725965based, I'm still on IRC everyday.
>>106733248You cannot. You have to use other software.For example, most IRC peeps use Mumble on the side for voice chat.The audio quality beats Discord (even with paid Nitro) by a significant margin, guess that's what happens when you use software that's dedicated to one job alone.
>>106726232newage forum/discussion board replacement but with more caveats and hoops to jump through in order to access the information. god forbid channels/infrastructure/information ever get nuked because archiving it isn't nearly as trivial as using waybackmachine.
>>106725941I just Gmail and google meet nowadays.
>>106725941Discord is feature rich and extremely accessible at the cost of privacy and we all know nobody actually cares about privacy. Nothing else remotely compares.LARPers will say IRC or Teamspeak or whatever, but these are like Quake players for /v/, people say they use it / play it for e-cred, but everyone knows they are lying.
>>106733975>The audio quality beats Discord (even with paid Nitro) by a significant marginThey use the same codec you retard and anything past 128k is completely pointless. It's speech, not music. >guess that's what happens when you use software that's dedicated to one job alone.What a fucking retarded statement.
>>106725941I've been exclusively using Element to talk to my friends for the last three years. It looks like absolute shit and has occasional bugs, but it's free and generally gets the job done. No idea about the "communities" there, always thought that using a messenger for this purpose is extremely awkward, instead preferring imageboards (you are here) and forums.
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>>106725941IRC, Matrix
i'm just gonna roll my own comms software at this point, i can't trust anybody to not rugpull me once i start using their shit anymore.
>>106733975>just run 3 different programs at oncethis is why people use discord it does it all
>>106734216>They use the same codec you retard and anything past 128k is completely pointless. It's speech, not music.You've never used Mumble. The codec isn't everything, dumbass.>>106734463They use Discord because it's easy and free. Zoomers don't even know what folders and files are, much less setting up a bouncer.Yes it comes at a cost, and I don't think there'll ever be an alternative since Discord costs a fuckton to run.
>>106728820>glowies can't crack closed source app technically you are correct, since nobody using your shitware why even bother cracking it, best security
I use Telegram for everything. It's being getting worse in the last few years, especially since Durov's arrest, but still far better than Trannycord.
>>106731741>>106729072
>>106735467>>106729072It has rich formatting and history, zoomer.Not having edits and deletion is a feature honestly. Own up to what you type, and take less ADHD medication.
>>106729933>samefag retard calling it malware>no proof or analysis to back it up>had no retort to >>106729429 and >>106729460 so he posts again as if he's a separate user>implying you have any grasp on what you're talking about
This >>106735602 was for >>106734642 and >>106729933 not just >>106729933Not sharing source code does not make something malware, and you are falsely asserting something is malware because you are mad you can't look at free source code. Your assertions are factually baseless and make you look retarded. You have no leg to stand on. You unironically look like glowies or Discord corpo shills trying go on the offense, or just retards trying to shit on something you have no factual basis or understanding of.
>>106725941IRC, Telegram, Urbit
>>106726462No you didn't also that Mexican larping faggot is a gryoper faggot so he's taking orders from a theater kid Mexican faggot.Actually you deserve that ban if it was real.OP there's matrix and team speak. Honestly I thought matrix would take off but nope we're in discord hell
>>106734556>Zoomers don't even know what folders and files areStop falling for this D&C shit. You saw this in a screenshot of an article or a reddit post and took it at face value. Anyone who doesn't know how folders work was never taught how folders work.
>>106725965>no reactions>no images>no files outside of shitty DCC transfers>no threads>no roles>no fine-grained enforcement>no audio or video calling>no streaminglmao no wonder your fossil network is dying
>>106735579>not being able to fix mistakes is... LE GOOD!!>netsplits out the ass is... LE GOOD!!!
>>106725941Gilded was promising, nearly identical to discord but higher bitrates, unlimited emojis and banners/custom invite links from the get-go. The problem was it lacked bot support due to a lower userbase plus the decision by the Roblox corp (who owns it) to tie it to a roblox account which pretty much killed what remained of its userbase.
>>106726215WG no longer uses TS, that's for sure. So they are definitely lying there.
>>106735579>sure bro, just deploy another client that will always be connected in your place to the channel so you don't miss messages while you're away, to circumvent the "protocol" that's lacking any message history>also, tough luck if you want to see messages before you arrived2025 and IRCv3 that nobody uses has only WIP stuff for persistence https://ircv3.net/irc/#persistenceown up to what you type, but not too muchre: formatting, OK, it looks like it "has" (or more precisely, some clients have) some https://modern.ircdocs.horse/formatting I'm so impressed. Can't format a link though loltalking about ADHD, what about the other basic features you conveniently forgot?
>>106735824Those are features... adults don't need any of that bloat.
>>106735886>basic support for modern features is "bloat"keep coping, fag. lmao
>>106736039I feel you misunderstood. Let me translate it for you, zoomer turbo tranny.fr fr, irc is bussin without that bloat, no cap.
>>106733975So it's not an alternative
>>106736240Not him, but these are features of Discord. You know, the thing shown in OP, the whole subject of this thread
>>106728606>Noone's used IRC since AIM and MSN>no wonder your fossil network is dyingCope. IRC is never dying.
>>106733248Why are fags so obsessed with sharing their screens in a chat app. No one needs to do that.
>>106726490Letters are based. Get a P.O. box.
>>106726649Which government agencies?
>>106726683Yes. Try Internet Relay Chat.
>>106727865>everything is gui friendlyNo. That invites normies and trannies, who *always* ruin communities.
>>106729072Those "features" are nothing but bloat. Plain text is all you need.>>106729087Have you never heard of a bouncer?
>>106734179If you don't care about privacy, you're an NPC. Simple as.
>>106734328>I've been exclusively using Element to talk to my friends for the last three years.How did you stop the inevitable "Why don't we use Discord?" conversation? You know there's always that *one* faggot who wants to migrate.
>>106735713>UrbitSecond-best answer apart from IRC.
>>106735852No one should ever use Guilded.
>>106730189Or don't use honeypot programs
>>106737833We used Discord prior to Element. One day I said I won't be using it anymore, so we collectively started searching for an alternative. Tried Session, SimpleX, Revolt, Jami, Tox, and some less popular ones, and came to the conclusion that Element is the closest messenger that suits everyone's needs. I guess the answer to your question is that we're close enough not to argue over stupid stuff like what software to use. As long as it works, they put up with its quirks.
>>106725941A communication platform is only useful as long as people actually communicate on it. >>106726462Don't be in servers with Queers that report your shit. I've posted way worse shit.
>>106738319also>inb4 some genderqueer tecchie tells me to use telegram/signal/elementNo. I do think those things are better in many respects, especially for privacy but again: you cannot force a standard till it becomes a standard.At least Telegram is somewhat popular.
>>106737806basic accessibility features are bloat. IRCniles are really fucked in the head>just install a persistent client on an always-on server to workaround the lack of persistence of the "protocol" broI already wrote that in >>106735862 anyway
>>106737776A lot of German ones apparently. I think we use it here in Sweden as well but not as much.
>>106738296You have a good friend group, some people will even REFUSE to install an ad blocker, and instead be humiliated by ads. Never understood them.
On a semi-related subject, until we do find a suitable alternative, they're trying to force a new TOS agreement on us. Any idea how to bypass it on desktop?
>>106735824oh no we can't groom kids into getting naked and masturbating on a video call and exchange child porn pics with my trans xisters on irc :(((
>>106740040meds
>>106740136hrt for them heccin kiddies
>>106735824>omg look at the UI wrapper Discord Inc made so they can soak up all our chat datacan we contain these losers inside of discord forever and just rework IRC entirely
>>106725965IRC is shitt. Uses IRCloud
>>106735742>Honestly I thought matrix would take off but nope we're in discord hellWhy would anyone use something without a real contact/friend list or goood video encoding for streaming? You people are retarded, no wonder Matrix hasn't replaced shitty Discord yet, because you fags are on your 100000th new account right now
>>106735824Boomers malding at this post
>>106740040>pedophilia is when software has features or something
>>106741311Only pedophiles need features.
>>106726215Use mumble.
I only use it to talk to my friends while we game, discord servers are retarded and a waste of time. There is no reason to use any other program.
>>106726132I'm running a server on my box. Doesn't have the ability to delete or edit a chat you sent to the group. I like what they're going for, but after 7 years you would think they'd have developed a bit more than this, and not be in beta
>>106741569we use ventrilo here
>>106727803>texting via SMS costs moneyOk saar
>>106734463I much rather run 3 lightweight purpose made programs than another browser instance that does everything inferior.
>>106736240You're a Nigger
>>106733715>ability to customize user interface and catch up to the timestranslation:>they need to make it flatshit for zoomers like me that don't know how to navigate UI without being handheld like a toddler
>>106735128What do you mean by "Worse"?
>>106744272>my interpretation of your post is exactly that you mean!ironic, you're flatbraining my very open ended post.
>>106726555Fake numbers, same tranny devs as trannycords, same tranny user base, there's no appeal to it cause trannycords already meet the demands of the trannies
>>106725941What would happen if the government subpoena discord to give all the logs of convos and calls they have?
>>106737787>>106729072 again
>>106735852I only know Guilded exists because YandereDev went there after his Dicksword got nuked.
No there is no alternative
telegram
>>106742739They keep trying to remake everything from the ground up so development just restarts every few years instead of polishing one product. Teamspeak 6 is technically not even a year old yet.
>>106726159>>106726466>>106726555>>106726880I've run a matrix homeserver since 2018 with about 50 active users, it's a great Slack replacement but doesn't have the same sort of voice channels as Discord. If they can introduce proper voice (not fucking conference calls with jitsi) with push-to-talk like Teamspeak/mumble/etc, then I can see matrix/element taking off for gamers. Otherwise it's going to remain relatively niche in comparison.>>106729316> because it's a honeypot> matrix.org is, at leastwhich is why you run your own fucking homeserver and don't let anyone from matrix.org into private encrypted rooms
>>106738296>that suits everyone's needsWhat were the needs?
>>106738418>basic accessibility features are bloat.You are severely braindead.
>>106740326*IRCCloud.If you're using service, you're pretty deep into IRC.
>>106744659You don't need any of those things for effective, plain-text chat.
Tlon
>>106735824>>no reactions:) It's real xD :P ^_^ (*^^*)>>no imageshttps://i.4cdn.org/g/1759068031667469s.jpginlining media is retarded, but there are clients that do it>>no files outside of shitty DCC transferssee above, there are even protocols built on IRC for transferring data, there's always base64 in DMs LMAO>>no threadscreate a channel, duh>>no rolesliterally are roles with different powers, there's no gay moderation system like on discord because power hungry jannies get the boot>>no audio or video callingteamspeak, mumble, X, having all this stuff integrated just creates security holes that you can't remove, can bring down unrelated processes if there's a bug, etc.>>no streamingTwitch, ニコニコ動画, YouTubei know your post is bait btw
>>106749216>no imagesummm chud don't you know you can just upload the image to discord then link it on irc???>no filesumm, you can just upload the file to discord sweaty>no threadsjust go create a discord thread ;)>no audio or video callingwe "irc bros" (as we call ourselves) just use a separate tool for that, like discord>no streaminguuhhhh, don't you know you can just stream on discord?????>what exactly am I using irc for thenSTOP ASKING QUESTIONS AND USE MY OBSOLETEWARE
I literally only need multi-person voice call and the ability for each person in said call to stream and watch each other. A huge majority of alternatives barely have functioning voice chat and are just worse versions of IRC/XMPP. Niggers really just reinvent the wheel for clout and then abandon the project when it comes to features people would actually want.
>>106749248>discord channel gets nuked because troon has the fifth panic attack of the dayshould've used a proper file/image host, aka the btc,eth blockchain and linked to it>>no audio or video calling>>no streamingwhy would I want to use discord for any of those things>>no threadsread previous postWe've detected something out of the ordinary going on. To continue talking to your friends, we will need you to verify your account ;)
>>106749405>why would I want to use discord for any of those thingsthose are the primary use case of discord. the chat feature is extra for mute people etc>We've detected something out of the ordinary going on. To continue talking to your friends, we will need you to verify your account ;)retard, discord already has my phone number, my id, and my anusprint
>>106749491>those are the primary use case of discord. the chat feature is extra for mute people etcno it's not you stupid bastard lol, you think I haven't used Discord before?>retard, discord already has my phone number, my id, and my anusprintyou probably enjoyed giving them those things as well, faggot
>>106747798>no u
>>106733975No it's what happens when the people paying for the server has an incentive to cut corners to cut costs. Mumble is self hosted and uses your CPU so there's no reason to cut corners unless the user's internet and computer sucks.
>>106729686>RS3why?
>>106747812Every single chat platform disagrees with you since at least the last decade but whatever
>>106728820Just tell us it's backdoored and be done with it
>>106725941I set up and hosted a teamspeak server on my own dedicated machine that my friend group was able to use for free with no headaches and they still complained about how "old" it was and went back to discord cause they couldnt scroll through their favorite gifs or virtue signal with spotify activity in teamspeak
>>106735824HAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAAHHAAHHAHAHHAHAHAAHHAAHHAHAAHHAAHAHAHah
