Geekom, Minisforum, HP, GMKtec, ACEMAGIC, what do you guys use? Apple mini pc's need not apply.
Thinking about getting a beelink me mini and sneaking it into my parents house to use it as a remote backup server
>>106726290>Apple mini pc's need not apply.Best option if you can't afford Ryzen.Intel isn't worth looking at.
>>106726290>Apple mini pc's need not apply.Aren't they the best performance/dollar ratio
They have all have malware from China in the bios you can't get rid of. Enjoy having all your bank details and accounts stolen and everything you do saved.
>>106726679performance/dollar ratio is meaningless if it means you are stuck on ARM.
>>106726290What are the benefits of using a mini PC besides them being small?
>>106726969I've seen people using them for local AI towers
>>106726996>>106726969https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju0ndy2kwlwLike this I mean. They're called clusters but I call them towers because people always stack them up.
>>106726679lol no even close
I bought this N100 with 2 hdd bays, using it for a jellyfin server, works like a charm
>>106727017I see. Why were they so popular a few years ago? A lot of people swore by the M series Minis
>>106726996>>106727012Anything else besides AI?
>>106727062They weren't, at least not here, every apple thread is always paid jeet shilling, that's why you don't see an apple "general" thread here, only windows and linux wich is the people actually use.
>>106726829Its not about the hardwareIts about the software compatibility, and macOS has the best arm compatibility of anything else on the market.
>>106727078>They weren't, at least not here,Just in general tech circles. Like on hackernews a lot of people like them.
>>106726290>wantapple m4 mini performance / power use but it runs linux and has a standard m2 slotsadly nothing like that exists so I use a throwaway n100 based shitbox
>>106727121U wut m8? >>106727017
>>106727017>https://browser.geekbench.com/processors/amd-ryzen-7-8845hs>https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/8853585LolLmao evenEnjoy your jeetzen
>>106727159Imagine being so disingenuous you post a benchmark from a different cpu just to prove a point, typical poojet marketing
>>106727078Apple minis blow the fuck out of every other mini in existence and it’s not even close. They’re even further ahead than macbooks compared the the alternative shitboxes with half the battery life and worse build quality and let’s not even mention arm laptops that aren’t apple.The only issue is that /g is poorfag central so nobody wants to pay 4x the street price for ram/storage upgrades and the base mini only has 256 gb (ram is now ok baseline). Macos also isn’t great for 24/7 device and asahi only supports m1/m2 cpus so the software is less than ideal for a home server
>>106727183lmao chatgpt post mentioning battery life on a mini pc, top fucking kek
>>106727200>macbook vs alternative laptopsread, nigga, read
>>106727220Are you lost cupcake? This is a mini pc thread
>>106727168>Actually posts a better, higher spec'd version of your CPUYou're right, I was actually giving your CPU a boost and even then it still failed dramatically. Here's the actual on btw, even more shit, just as expected
>>106727230https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/14117349
>>106727223>i an too fucking stupid to read a whole paragraphclassic g
>>106727017>double the power consumption for 19% less single core and 15% more multicore performancelmao even
>>106726816rajesh is desperate to save shitpple
>Thread specifically says No crapple>Poojet marketing team still feel the need to shit all over the thread>>106727230>>106727237Im sorry you're retarded and can't figure out with your own posted bench than the 8745hs is faster than the 8845hs and you still call the 8745hs worse
>>106727267>Faster system consumes more powerLMAO WHAT A SCOOP CALL THE PRESSES!
oh, this is a disguised stinkpad thread?my bad
>>106727274>Thread specifically says No crappleShouldn't have included an Apple machine in the op. Dummy.
>>106727317Maybe you should read
>>106727324You're on 4chan, in case you forgot. No one cares that much about following the rules of op.
>>106727239>>106727317lmao
>>106727294>19% slower single core and double power consumption is actually fasterwhat is this pajeet mental gymnastics
>>106727405>single corelmao are you fucking serious? and calling others of doing mental gymnastics when you can't do simple math?m4 can only process 10 threads while the ryzen has 16 threads. If you were still on the year 2002 where single threading actually mattered using xp or osx tiger it would be good, buts its the modern world where every modern apps have good use of multithreading, hence why the multi-threading score is what actually matters.but hey they pay you good ruupes for this right? keep up the good (bad) work
Does it count as mini pc if it has 4 bays?
>>106727493if you aren't encoding videos 24/7 single more is more important
>>106726290>What Do You Use/Like?apple mini :)
>>106727643Just stop posting you're embarassing yourself, even webbrowser use a gazillion threads now.
>>106727650tech illiterate lmao
>>106727732But enough about yourself poojet
We use micro optiplex at work, best shit, good cpu/ram/storage expansion, true tooless maintenance to remove heatsink, ram, hdd, last almost forever with proper care
>>106727745open your task manager
>>106727853Have you?
>>106727017Needs a row like:Sounds like a jet engine: Apple m4 no, AMD Ryzen 7 yes
>>106727893Oh no! I might get a good 29 dB comfy time with my mini pc!
beelink ryzens are the best option out of all of those>>106726816literally not true>>106726969Compact so it fits on your desk easily if you already have several pc. Very low wattage usage. The beelink ser8 (8845HS) uses like 2-8w at idle. I have an old electrical system so I can't have multiple gaming computers running concurrently without tripping the breaker. I use mine to test my gpu code on a "modest" system so that I know it runs quickly. The only reason I would get a micro atx at this point is if you NEED a big boy gpu, and even that is detable with occulink + minipc or (eventually) thunderbolt 5.I used to be a life long pc builder but these days I think I'm just a mini pc slut
>>106727883>76% idlehere's your answer
>>106727017Mini M4 regularly goes on sale for $549 and $499I managed to snag one new for $475 with an Amazon promo. nothing in the mini PC market really compares with the M4 on a price/performance ratio. it will even play cyberpunk on 1080p
>>106727017>no warranty>terrible BIOS >no-name chink storage that will fail in two years and lose all your data
>>106727926>so I can't have multiple gaming computers running concurrently without tripping the breakerI feel like this is an odd statementDo you see no middle ground between fully fledged ATX desktop PCs and mini PCs?I use an matx board for my router and it's power is insignificant as far as a breaker is concerned.
>>106726290>Apple mini pc's need not apply.self own. enjoy your shitty hardware and dogshit OS.
Minisforum u760 slimWith a 7640HS, more than enough for me. I doubled the ram to 32 gb.I don't play vidya.Low power draw and compact.
>>106727984I just don't have physical space for more than 1 standard ATX computer. I have a computer with the new strix halo cpu and it's faster than the 5950X in my desktop. I just don't need a mini-itx or micro atx computer anymore. When I was a gamer it made sense but everything I play is ~5 years old these days anyway. Mini pcs are good enough for 80% of people now.The other thing I like about them is that I can order one, reinstall windows. Then give it to my parents and they can have a modern system that just works. And they're inexpensive, sub $500 for something that will do everything instantaneously for them. Why have a tower when you can have a little box that does everything you need instead? I'm not saying fuck towers or they're bad I just think we've reached a point in computing where these are enough for me.
>>106726816apple is a prism partnerI'd rather have spyware from China than spyware from the USA/Israel, at least China can't revoke my fucking passport if I say mean things about jews.
Weird that this thread pops up, with lots of Beelink recommendations, the same day that tiny titty Katie makes a video recommending the same thing.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qS6QechcIA
I like thembought two of the beelink ser5 shitboxes and they're great
>>106728767>shitboxwhy use a derogatory term to describe a good machine
>>106728927Because it's cheap midrange equipment with possible spyware that I bought to use and abuse. Shitbox is hyperbolic since they're new, not used cobbled together junk, but my autism permits me to incessently defend my misuse of language without shame.
>>106727042same, life is comfy
>>106727042i honestly dont know why people run jellyfin. is it the owning thing, like, you have direct access to the files?i just have my debrid service and let something like fen take care of the rest.
>>106726290i paid 350 for 6900hx
Are the Asus Nuc 13 pro tall boys any good?
>>106726290>2k25>mac mini with 256gm ssdwhat a joke
>>106730406Don't you play for a debrid service?
>>106730992pay*
>>106726290Raspberry Pi 2 Model B, as god intended.
>>106726290I have a beelink with a Ryzen 7 5800H. I have (2) 4tb Teamgroup SSDs with DRAM cache. I also have 64GB of DDR4.It is a great windows PC and can play any game I want as long as I turn on scaling and put up with the resolution dropping to near 720p sometimes to maintain frames.I also have an M2 Mac mini with 16Gb of RAM and 512GB SSD. I paid a lot more for the Mac but it is worth it for the experience. It plays Minecraft in 4K well with mods.I wouldn’t spend the money on an M4 Mac mini. This one should last me another 8-10 years.
>>106726290minisforum and beelink are trustworthy. geekom, gmktec, and acemagic are not. apple is the best option.>>106730810overpriced.>>106730869buy a nas. there's also a 10gbe option on the mac mini.
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>>106731276>/g/>checks out
>>106730126you should be kind to that little workhorse, anon. but i understand your tism.
i really can't believe you stupid fucks are getting jebaited into consumer brand wars over practically identical shitter boxes whose only use case is to be either a more expensive media device or a less functional server. no, wait, i forgot everyone on /g/ is a retarded no-code no-job i absolutely do believe that nevermind.
>>106731374well, some of the brands have lower quality construction and will avoid any warranty work. acemagic shipped a product with malware on it. they're actually fine for coding and job work. in fact, the whole thing started with business PCs. why are you so angry and wrong?
>>106731414i really don't give a fuck about your cuckboxes you stupid little bitch.
>>106731433got it. i accept your concession.
>>106731521this reply format is the mental fortress of a consumer retard.
>>106726290We already have a mini pc thread OP.I wonder if the Jannies can just merge them both?>Related>>106716882>>106728450>Muh Jews, muh passports!>out yourself as a Guantanamo SpicHola, señor
>>106727953But enough about the mac mini!
>>106727953Couldn't that just be solved by opening it up an putting a good SSD like a Transcend or WD? Unlike the Mac that shit isn't soldiered down.Well that's assuming the Beelink can be teared down as easily as a Minisform anyway.
>>106726673>>106726679I'm using two Beelink machines right now. My gaming box is an EQR6 with a Ryzen 7 6800H, and my home server is an S12 Pro with an Intel N100. They've both been surprisingly reliable for the price, which combined was probably less than a single Mac Mini with half the specs of the Ryzen box.
>>106731589>>out yourself as a Guantanamo SpicWhat does this even mean? You realize they're trying to get legislation in so they can take passports from American citizens if they criticize Israel right?
I thought about one but it's hard to justify the cost compared to say buying a new GPU for an older computer, stashing it away and using a long display or USB cable.I don't even keep my main desktop computer in the same room as me, so noise & size hardly register when both my living room and bedroom are free of it. Would be nice if I lived in a small environ and had no need for GPU power but I got over my mini PC fetish back when the mac mini's with core solos released & outplaced my PPC one and the raspberry pi model B era.Micro-ATX in a decently small case is small enough, noise bothered me more and small devices, smaller fans and smaller sinks operate on a much more offensive register.Chipset & low idle are what I'd be wanting. If I were to buy a new one, I'd look at the M4 if it were arm but only for ARM's low idle power draw being about on par with keeping my device in standby, The tradeoffs in losing 48GB in RAM, 16GB in VRAM and being I presume stuck with a 256GB soldered SSD would be a major turnoff for the price, I'd need to see benchmarks comparing it to say a 6700k w/ an A770 or B580/B60 to really see if losing 16-48GB of just RAM and 16-24GB of VRAM would be a thing worth saving a couple liters of space in a cupboard.>>106726816>Enjoy having all your bank details and accounts stolen and everything you do saved.Not a problem in the first world, fscs can cover you up to about 85 grand, you should have your wealth tied up in assets.
>>106732207>What does this even mean?That is what we in the 4channel.gov department call a joke, you weren't supposed to take that jab to heart anon.>You realize they're trying to get legislation in so they can take passports from American citizens if they criticize Israel right?But on a more serious note yes that's a problem, I personally wouldn't even consider my opinion on Israel vs Palestine to even be all that controversial either since I'm just a boring two state solution fence sitter in that regard but clearly anything short of kissing the IDF's ass and or not criticizing Hamas an Hezbollah negativity enough could very well put me in that shit list too, never mind people who do have actual controversial opinions in a country that well is kinda supposed to have this thing called free speech but oh well Republicans and Democrats always like to forget about that when it's convenient.And that's why I lean more Independent/LoLbert now than I did prior, that Passport rug pull shit they're trying to make into law is after all a bi-partisan bill (like most shitty bills real people don't want).I like most anons here an no longer represented.
>>106726290Me buy big pc and then hide it under the desk. Now it smaller than mini pc.
>>106727062macbook pro's are generally reviewed with the m4 pro or m4 max CPU (relatively good CPU's), you could get a macbook pro for $1600 with the m4 stock, but for $400 more you get a m4 pro (+24gb ram) which is 2x better at some jobs (better cpu & gaming), and if you spend another $1200 you get a m4 max which is stronger as well (the pricing isn't very good because it forces you to get 36gb of ram and 1tb ssd).The cope is that it's the m4 Max is the best "AI" PC because you could spend another $1000 (total $4000) to get 128gb and nothing matches it in vram and performance, since the m4 max is similar to a 4070 (except the 98gb RTX PRO 6000 which is like 4x stronger and cheaper than you expect). And there is the m3 ultra which is closer to a 3090 / 5080 (m4 never got the ultra upgrade), and it never got into a macbook, only the mac studio.You could get a macbook mini PC for half the price of the macbook pro, still not worth it however, I think apple has an argument for being the best laptop, but the mini-pc just isn't that amazing.I used to shill the m4 mini-pc, but I always thought that you could run asahi linux on it, but nope, that's not possible (not even m3 works). The #1 reason I would want asahi is because it's a mini-pc, I don't care about battery life or the no HDR / fps being limited to 60hz (m1 still has issues). I would assume some people spend 90% of their time using a web browser, so if running a browser on asahi feels better than OSX, than you would use asahi, even if it ran worse or has less graphics. And it's a dual boot so it's easy to switch (You would game using osx crossover).I would suggest a basic ryzen mini-pc, don't get a $800 one, a basic 6 core cpu is fine. If you want gaming, just spend $800 and build your PC, a 5060 or RX 9060 will last a long time (you could use used parts or aliexpress however and get the price closer to $600, such as buying a weaker GPU like the 1660 super/TI for $100 or buying a 12100f+h610 on aliexpress).
>>106731167who is this cute female
>>106732525there's your answer btw op
>>106726290I really like my ASRock X300W. Even got all the expansions, dual side USB A 2.0 ports and rear audio output (maybe input too I dunno). Haven't used it in a while but I've been meaning to transfer my 5700G back into it and upgrade my desktop to something better
>>106726290I got an old brix that I don't know what to do with. It's a 2014 I think so it's not like it can handle new shit.
>>106726679Only if you get the base modelUpgrade anything and you start cross-subsidizing macOS and WebKit development
>>106726816hate to break this to you anon but the firmware in these minipcs already gets leaked a million times over. it's just a laptop bios with the power/thermals turned up to the max the enclosure can handle without melting. that's the only mod they ever make, apart from some stupid overclocks and repurposing unused pcie lanes for extra connectivity
>>106730406useful for syncplay, i watch shows/movies with friends a lot
Someone should make a GameCube style case for these
>>106733952with steam bigpicture and a few xbox or playstations controllers it'd be the peak home theater setup
