/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbotsMiku Edition>NewsDeepSeek releases V3.1 Terminus - A minor upgrade, no change in RP quality https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250922Kimi K2 0905 released https://moonshotai.github.io/Kimi-K2Deepseek V3.1 released as deepseek-chat on official API https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250821OpenAI releases GPT-5 models, all preceding models slated for deprecation https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5Z.ai releases GLM-4.5 https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.5additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info.html>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://char-archive.evulid.cchttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://aicg.neocities.org/bots.html>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrdeepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.comlocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local.html | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking.htmlhttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOPaicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events.htmllore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesservices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metalogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orguseful filters: https://rentry.org/desuproxyrebornLast Thread: >>106690292
ANCHOR
Nope. We merged.
Didn't you get the memo?
>Miku edition>but Rin is the anchorBakerchama...
>>106726704her name is yellow miku actually
>>106726607>>106685948No. https://files.catbox.moe/oj3tnd.png
>>106727048is this real?
>1 hour>7 postsWe merged.
>>106726613>>106727059Without looking?
>>106727048>Thiku
>>106727179>I'm thinking Thiku, Thiku
>>106726704I think she's cute, so she can tag along.
where did we merge? where do I go? don't leave me behind please
>>106727286The dimensional merge.
>>106727299don't tell me its /vg/ it's /vg/ isn't it?
>>106727307nah
>>106727307it is in fact /vg/ how did you know?
>>106727286We're on a much higher plane of existence now. Though to be fair even a stepstool would be much higher for /aicg/
The truth is... Anyone loyal to /vg/'s cabal (aicgOP, aicg.neocities.org, etc.) can just go /vg/. That's why this thread is getting no traction. The people want to be free. They want the wiki.
Can we get a funnier answer?
There's no more free tier access to gemini pro via openrouter right? Or any other way to get it free, like chutes?
The truth is... /aicg/ just won't die. And this truth drives some people insane.
>>106727449Get a 20-30+ cheap virtual numbers and register for aistudio.
We losted...We need to absorb /wAIfu/, /aids/ and /vpcai/ if we want to survive against our enemies.
qrd on our enemies?
kill yourself fillyfucker
been a while since i've poked my head in here, have there been any significant jumps in self-hosted chatbots and all that? last i tried it i was using an openAI key and paying $ for gpt4, are there better/cheaper alternatives these days?
>>106727634we all use deepseek or glm now, claude is too assistantpozzed to be usable any more
>>106727634We have free gemini
>>106727634We all use Opus 4.1, the best model for creative writing.
I remember when /vg/aicg/ first started and every single fucker here tried to kill it. Then you kept disparaging us and scheming to screw us over time and time again. Fast forward to now, and we're thriving while you're half-dead. This is deserved. I spit on your rotting corpse.
>>106727449I'd like to know this too, gemini is the only one I use regularly.
What happens when the parasite realizes it has killed the host?
>>106727682Its been two months. I'm tired of using Opus 4.1 everyday.I'm tiredI'm tiredI'm tiredI'm tiredI'm tiredI'm tiredI'm tiredI'm tired
We might die. But we are not going to die as a slave. We will reject the people that betrayed us. We will not let them control us while they push us to our death.
Opus has no variety. If you claim to enjoy using it, it's because you're a larping or because you used it once, months ago, and are holding onto that memory. Nobody who "has" Opus actually uses it.
>>106727791We'll accept the mandatory ID and censorship meekly and quietly, and we'll pay for it too.
>>106727798Obviously the ones who get it for free use it, but the ones who pay have given up entirely. Only proxyfags claim "claude access" so they can sell you something without providing it.
I have prostitutes to call over weekends, no time for chatbots
Are there any animated or half animated chat bots I can use or set up?
>when your LLM doesn't know what a dangerous day is.It's so tiresome.
what the grok doin
>>106728622Ani on the X app
I didn’t know I could be killed like this.Thank you for killing me. The real me.
t. John Undertale
locust herethanks for the proxies presets and bots but it's looking like things are running dry and its time for me to move on to /vg/Sayonara
>>106729186if you can stand being around troons then sure
>>106726852only know I become aware that double newlines are very important
>>106729186>/vg/a what? someone please explain
>>106726852>piclol.
that's a penis
What is the paypig meta? I have access to R1, the new september V3.1, Kimi K2, and zai
>>106729312No, no double newlines.
>>1067296803.7 caching if poor otherwise opus 4.1
>>106729680mixing cheaper models with opus4/3, gemini 2.5
>>106729709how expensive is it really? im retared and cant get a proper idea
bye
>>106729862opus is $15/mil input and $75/mil output3.7 is $3/mil input and $15/mil output which is 5 times less, and caching reduces the input cost by a lot
how bloated is your main preset?
>>106729976~1000 tokensI turn on and off certain injections
>>106726607Update to Sabor: intro images, some cleaning up in her definitions and a whole new intro! Thanks to your help, Sabor has managed to integrate herself into society. She even got a job as a zookeeper! To show her thanks, she has offered to give you a private tour of her workplace.https://chub.ai/characters/crikeymcdoodle/sabor-8b9e000ehttps://files.catbox.moe/0e9lx0.pngFun fact: Sabor was heavily inspired by Ginzake's beastkin doujinshi series (the lactating fox is my favorite). I really wanted a character in his style, so I trained my own lora and genned Sabor's card image locally. When I started doing chibis for all of my bots I had moved on to using NovelAI, but the v3 dataset didn't have his artstyle, hence why Sabor's chibi uses Bkub's style. When I got to the height/bust chart I was still using v3, but got somewhat close using vibe transfer. Luckily, his style was included from v4 onward, using v4.5 for the new intro images.Bonus fun fact: Sabor is named after the leopard from Disney's Tarzan.As always, all my other stuff can be found here:https://rentry.org/crikeyscorner
>>106729924How'd you guys rate sonnet 3.7 vs opus 4.1?
>>106730030both slop
>>106730027since Uma Musume released it rubs me in the wrong way to see kemonomimi next to their animal counterparts
>>1067300304.1 is better but not enough to be worth 5x the price
>>106730027uh oh SOVL
I will stay by your side till the end /g/!
>>106729976400
>>106726606>DeepSeek releases V3.1 Terminus:D>no change in RP quality):Man, it feels like we've gone a while without a new model from anyone.
>>106730466How recent was Grok 4 fast? I could swear that one just came out.
>>106730477Don't really keep my finger on the pulse of Grok too much tbdesu. I've always found it one of the weaker models for story writing and RP
>>106730489Sure, but I like to think that every model that makes progress is a fire under the ass of the devs that we do want models from.
>>106730499Yeah, fair. Gemini had a huge turnaround when it used to be even shittier than Llama, so there's a chance Grok will have a moment in the spotlight like that.
>>106730510a few people told me grok 4 fast is kinda ok
>>106730539I'll have to give it a shot before I make any judgements. Grok 3 was the weakest of all the major models imo, but maybe 4 fast is better.
>>106730466transformers architecture, please understand
Gemini 4 will save the hobby.
when did it become the norm for chub to have 2k tokeb bots? when I reach the greetings I don't even have the will to read them, much less rp
>>106731034Migration from janitor
>>106730933in 2028 sure
So whatever happened with Aiho?
>>106731099nice image fag
>>106726607You love mean girls, right? Those bitchy popular bullies that know they're better than everyone else? There's always that Queen Bee that sits atop the school and looks down on everyone else. Well, this isn't about her. This is about Trina Winters, the ditzy, airheaded minion. You know, the clumsy one who's always mishearing and messing up the leader's plans.https://chub.ai/characters/RestlessDregSyndrome/trina-winters-gyaru-goth-mean-girl-734452765d4cYes, I really loved Gretchen.>>106731104It's okay this thread is slow.
>>106731082rugpulledremember anongate?
>>106731128kek, figured.
>>106731111Fuck off.
>>106731153
>>106731134considering the amount of shilling and 4chan ads I think they were the same personit's not like scam doesn't run on this site's blood
>>106731111What a cutie. Nice quads.
Why Sonnet 3.7 over 4.0?
>>106726606>https://agnai.chat>good simple UI>QoL features>uncensored chat>despite allowing nsfw the UI isn't themed on it and is neutral>seems to respect user privacy enough on its terms>basically character.ai but unfiltered and better which is what I was looking for(well doesnt have the open community features of c.ai but I never cared about those anyway)Help a newfag out, this sounds almost too good to be true, is there some catch? I'm actually considering paying some sheckels for this service
>>106731273>why isn't bigger number better
merkavaa refill th e keysssss
>>106731315NewGOD, this shit is a 70B model. It's BAD! You should trick the big models into doing roleplay. https://rentry.org/sukino-findings
>>106731341based spiteLORD
Is there a good NSFW AI for text adventures?I haven't used NovelAI in like 3 years, but when I last used it, it was pretty garbage, both at writing, and at remembering shit.Right now I'm considering just using the Sudowrite and prompting It's AI's to do psuedo text adventuring with me with sound rounabout shit, if only because they have an uncensored Claude 3.7 and a way to save other information.But, really, I'd just prefer a text adventure AI if it were any good.
>>106731365id ask on aids desu
>>106726606https://decrypt.co/341628/do-llms-dream-electric-sheep-ai-study-shows-surprising-results?amp=1Interesting study. Wonder how this affects the way their outputs are written.
>>106731315it sounds too good to be true because corpos have twisted public opinion so much, you live under the assumption that llms are not nsfw by defaulta "nsfw" llm is cheaper to keep than a censored one
>>106731386who cars
>>106731368Ask on what?
>>106731386notice how only Opus out of all anthropic models, went schizo
>>106731386>study that consists of doing what anyone with an AI can do woooooooooooooow fascinating
>>106731402>>>/vg/540544434
>>106731316Doesn't answer my question, faggot
>>106731160>the nintendo bunker with the iwata photoWhere does the time go?
>>106731423Genuinely a more helpful thread
>>106731386>Interesting study.Yeah, if you're retarded.
>>106731365>Is there a good NSFW AI for text adventures?Yeah, Claude. I don't understand why you want to use it through Sudowrite, though. DeepSeek, Kimi, etc. are the cheap options.And you just prompt what you want. You don't look for an AI specialized in text adventures. You just use the best one that you can pay.
>>106731365Honestly they've gotten some good models lately, I'd say it's worth giving them a second shot.
>>106731456Seconding, NovelAI has GLM which is actually usable nowadays.
>>106731111>>106731444checked
>>106731402I would ignore the thread on /aids/. They just discovered instruct models because NovelAI uses GLM 4.5 now. But they know nothing about them. It's like the caveman version of this thread.
>>106731476Nah, they actually have info on how to set up GLM. Pretty useful if you ask me.
>>106731476? their thread's fine
>>106731487They pretended to hate instruct models for years, up until a few days ago. All their info is from this thread.
>>106731453>I don't understand why you want to use it through Sudowrite, though.Because Sudowrite has a story bible engine which lets me keep the setting consistent.It's also the only version of Claude that I know is uncensored, but I would love for someone to point me in the direction of more.The only problem is I'm putting a square peg in a round circle by using Sudowrite for text adventures of all things. >>106731456>>106731460Do they have specific information on context window?If they ain't hitting at least 40,000 words, It's useless to me.>>106731423Thanks.
>>106731499nah it's fine
>ProvidersOpenRouter: https://openrouter.ai/ArliAI: https://arliai.com/Featherless: https://featherless.aiNanoGPT: https://nano-gpt.com/Chub: https://chub.ai/NovelAI: https://novelai.net/
So what's the usecase for not signing up for NovelAI and getting one of the best local models with an upcoming finetune alongside one of the best image generation models?
>>106731500I had the impression that Sudowrite was expensive. Claude is only censored on the official site. Anywhere else that gives you API access let's you prefill the last message. It's easy to jailbreak because of that. Grab an API key from OpenRouter and use SillyTavern as the UI, you can grab a jailbreak from here: https://rentry.org/jb-listingYou would need to customize the prompt for text adventures, or grab a card that acts like one. I think this was one:https://chub.ai/characters/illuminaryidiot/the-staff-of-oscilion-338deea8be18The people recommending NovelAI are trolling. It only offers one model with 28k context that OpenRouter already offers at full context.
>>106731513All of this shit gets shared with thousands of faggots on reddit and discord servers, I wonder why it's spitefagging to share with the few people who come in this thread.
I don't know if people have noticed, but all the NovelAI spam was a /vg/ raid. Just FYI. I think they're bitter about the state of their thread.
>>106731681What do you mean? We love NovelAI here.
>>106731681>implying there's anything wrong with telling people about the thing they asked about
>>106731592>best local modelwhat makes you think best is a metric?
>>106731742My experience.
>>106731744that's your misinterpretation.
>>106731763It's my manterpretation.
>>106731612Sudowrite is expensive, but I'm grandfathered into their old, better value highest tier so I don't mind as much plus I'd pay top dollar for better uncensored AI anyway.Giving that a shot now. Thanks.
Ever since sonnet 4.0 launched I've been using 3.7 still. Is it any better than 3.7 anons? (No, I can't pay for opus. And I'm not gonna beg for a oxy)
>>106731111Cute hands! workflow/model?
>>106731990apparently not unless you need the newer dataset for a non-oc character or the like
>>106726607nkadashi
>>106731994WAI-Illustrious 15 but I used a ControlNet for the pose.
>>106729976Main RP preset is like, 500 tokens. My CYOARPG preset is around 2000 tokens, and that's after trimming a lot of the fat from the XMLK original. But mostly cause it has lots of rules/options.
Dear Merkava, I wrote you, but you still ain't callin'I left my 'cord, my e-mail, and my user token at the bottom
Cyberpunk 2077 femboy but instead of johnny silverhand they have a feminizing slut engram in their head
>>106731592I have to send money to Turkey
>>106731592i don't have any money because i live in a communism
Anyone got a nagatoro but its cuck/senpai pov? Seems like an obvious idea but I haven't seen anything like it in chub
>>106732743https://files.catbox.moe/it5gsl.pnglast greeting
>>106732743isn't that just an average cuck bot?
I just had an interesting idea. What if I just play god (literally) and pop up in front of npcs and speak to them like "Cut your dick in front of your mother" or something and watch what happens
I tried NAI's untuned GLM and it's pretty good.Not as good as opus 3 but it's pretty fast and different, and also better at anatomy, keeping track of what body part is where, and in which positions characters are and where they can go from there.Downside is that it is extremely sensible and influenced by slop: if it gens a small paragraph without proper punctuation and grammar, the next generations will very quickly spiral out of control into word diarrhea. It also struggles at giving different characters distinct personalities, and will generally copy-paste the same structured lines over and over again until you explicitly progress the RP.Hope this can be fixed when they'll finetune it on ERP datasets.
>>106732946>Hope this can be fixed when they'll finetune it on ERP datasets.Yeah, the same datasets that did nothing for Erato.Blow your fucking head off, shill. Who the fuck cares if NovelAI is hosting it. Not only they have zero track record of delivering anything, by the time they do something with it, there will be better models. And you will be stuck with it for a year or more.Do something better than shilling in 4chan, fucking asshole.
>>106732936you will get "I'm sorry, can't do that."
>>106733049bodied that freak
>>106733049>eratonever used because i already know base 70b llama3 is shitwhy are you even calling me a shill on a piracy thread, retard
>>106733049ummm... based?
Good thing that there's no fine-tune. Because it would be already obsolete.
>>106733135oh new glm version? cool
>>106733135it mogs kimi
>>106733135do I have to pay for this?
>>106733211yes, to their overlord xi.
>>106733206what a low bar
Any macro bots?
>>106733506proompt for it imo, dedicated sizebots are mostly shit
>>106733518>dedicated sizebots are mostly shitin what way are they shittier than "(OOC: {{char}} is now an enormous giantess)"?
>>106733621boring characters, crap greetings, uninteresting scenarios, you name ittheyre really damn bad and its much better to just proompt for it on cards you actually likeobviously you should do more than the ooc you mentioned for a better experience, making it make sense in universe is peak coom
Babe wake up, we're so back it's unreal.
>>106733679solid attempt
>>106733679finally the deepseek 3 killer
I was writing a maid cafe bot but the idea of a girl working there calling other people "master", including probably black clients, gave me the ickany way to avoid this? making it racist?
>>106733756{{user}} is a rich fuck who bought the entire place out and has the girls wait on him hand and foot.
Whats the best promps for model stop talking for {{user}}?I know than ordering things to AI makes it rebel.
>>106731513I just use Moescape/Yodayo and don't give a fuck.
>>106733813if your model rebels over something so basic, get a better model
>>106733824It happens sometimes after i do an action with no dialogue.
>>106733822unironically based.
>>106733756>maid is complete bitch>only ever refers to clients as demeaning terms>only thing she hates more than her job are niggers
>>106733756>wants to write a servant for hire>does not want them to be servile>does not want them to be hired
>spend hours working on a new personal bot>excited for the idea I've had for a while coming to fruition>finally get it finished>can't get the RP started for some reason, struggling with my first messageEvery time man, it's like I blew my creative load and I can't get it up for the actual main event
>>106731323look for red or yellow stuff clear costs extra
>>106733756hmm what kind of maid cafe it is if maid speaks at all
so now that the gemini API has opus (if you aren't a techlet) what will the new excuse for not using it be?
>>106733981if opus is so good why would anyone need an "excuse" for not using it?
nihao nigga, we getting 3.2 today
>>106733981did I miss something? Is blacktooth back?
>>106733981why would anyone use slopus?
>>106733872be honest, doesn't it bother you that your love interest goes around calling others "master"?
>>106733981What?
Anyone tried deepseek 3.2?
>>106734086only if you're an insecure faggot
finally refilled necrom with more deepseek.
>>106734166thanks, will coom later
>>106734023how? there's no way it meaningfully changed from terminus or even 3.1 in the time since
>>106734086it's more that i wouldn't write a card whose defining trait is that she calls random people 'master' in return for money, if i was bothered by the idea of a card calling random people 'master' in return for money, you know?
>>106734333Dunno but it's up.https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3.2-Exp
>>106734427>https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3.2-Exp>is rael
>>106734427>costnow they will say it's better at coding
>>106734110you can make gemini be like opus so its just literally opus if you know what are you doing
>>106734427>>106734447COOMCHADS.. STATUS?
>>106734601it's literally a sidegrade
>>106727449Did they implement a VPN? Why isnt it working on janny?
>>106734615>fixing the O(n) problem is a sidegrade/aicg/ take
>>106734626>on janny?Kill yourself.
check the pricing lmao
>>106734672>O(n) problemThe what now
>>106734672that's what keeps it from being a downgrade
>>106734680whale won
>>106734711good lordthis is what upgrades should beTAKE A NOTE GPT AND CLAUDEWHAT THE FUCK
>>106734715>american company forwarding cost savings to the customer good one
>>106734741Dodge v Ford Motors and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race
I LOVE OZONE
>>106734673It runs, its easy to use. whats the big deal?
>>106733756It's unsuccessful and gets zero customers except (You)
>>106731394>a "nsfw" llm is cheaper to keep than a censored oneTRVKE
>>106732531>draw girl>call boywhat boy has hips like that?
>>106733082...how do I get NAI's GLM for free?
>>106734672Of course!
>>106734994it's $25/month for unlimited access>>106733049>Yeah, the same datasets that did nothing for Erato.Llama 3 was a totally lost cause and they only tried to tune it because they had abysmal timing where that was the best royalty free option before the deluge of frontier competitive chink models. I don't think GLM even NEEDS a finetune since its already very unaligned but maybe it will help it write nicer.
>>106734994It's just GLM 4.5.
Soji mogs it.
Why are people so impressed by deepkek 3.2? It's now roughly the same price as grok 4 fast, and worse in all aspects. I'm not talking about rp, but grok 4 fast is probably better than chinkek now as well
>>106735174>t. Elon
>>106735174because we only roleplay here?
>>106735174>I'm not talking about rpai chatbot general, cuckie.
>>106735216>>106735228>but grok 4 fast is probably better than chinkek now as well (in rp)
>>106734690most models cost more to run the more tokens you put in them, it's called O(n) where O is the price and n stands for number of tokensdeepseek found a way to make it cheaper
>>106735238>probablyso you didn't test it. meanwhile, deepseek has been battle tested since january
>>106735242>deepseek has been battle tested since januaryYes, because everyone loved deepseek 3.1 and now with 3.2 (which is a sidegrade), the rp experience will be even better because cheaper tokens
https://xcancel.com/teortaxesTex/status/1972624421388206095#mWe did it!
>>106735253Yes.
>O(n) has been fixedHOLY FUCK GUYS I CAN'T STOP CUMMING DEEPKEK IS NOW THE BEST AT ERP AAAAAAAEEEIIII
>O(n) has been fixedProof?
What does>O(n) has been fixedmean?
Um... I do wonder if I should use Grok 4 fast (Which has a score of 60 on artificial analysis and a speed of 151 tokens per second) or Deepseek (with a score of 58 and fucking 22 tokens of speed). But look, deepseek is 10 cents cheaper than grok! What a steal
>>106735344it means a focks will now personally crawl out of your screen and deepthroat your cock right down to the ballsack
>>106735366>a focksI'm not a furry, doe?
My coomer mind doesnt care about big O, but my autistic programmer mind cant help but think 'nice' about O(n) being fixed
>>106735369a cute girl then
>For each query, the indexer selects its top-2048 tokens in the context to attend toSo it's built-in RAG? This looks better for benchmaxxing than for roleplaying with sequences of events.
>>106735392No, RAG requires a separate embedding model to pull things into context. This is a backend optimization to the model architecture, it's at a fundamental prompt processing level.
>>106735364Grok 4 is schizo garbage. Even worse than GPT5.
>>106735392It's just about making long context cheaper because V4 will have infinite memory!
>>106735494Grok 4 fast is much better than grok 4
>>106735511logs?
>>106735528Logs can't really show RP quality
I know deepseek doesnt need a jb but is there a good preset for it? I want it to do 800-1000 word replies and the jb im using has a randomizer for length but deepseek keeps giving short replies back. atm im using avi
>>106735392No, it's a linear attention with a O(n^2) index without any performance drop, which is actually HUGE if true, mamba and co can basically go fuck themselves after that. It doesn't affect RPs much, unless you RP with the full context in which case it's faster and cheaper. I bet they're validating this for DeepSeek v4 and it will have 1mil context like Gemini or something like that.
>>106735557Try chatstream if you want longer replies like that
>>106735501fast and huge context window != ability to process long sequencesthis is about the former, not latter
>>106735546>the only thing that can clearly demonstrate rp quality actually can't do thatok shitpostie
>>106735590Alright thanks I'll check it out
I wonned
i look at japanese aicg and sometimes, it makes me want to make coom logs and post them on their forums just to see how they'd react. the shit they get off to is so laughably lightweight
>>106736013tell us more nihonanon. what models are they using? any special fetishprompts?
>>106736025This has already been discussed a few thousand times, they're just using web UIs like Grok. Nothing interesting.
>>106736046>This has already been discussed a few thousand times,not while i was looking :(>web UIs like Grok.oh christ, that's as bad as those chatgpt 4o normies
>>106736046We're better than them.
It's surprising how Japan, of out countries, is the most normie and tame when it comes to rping with ai
>>106736025they are literally using the chatgpt website and trying to game the gpt-5 thinking filters. the output would be intolerable by 4chan aicg standards, and yet, they're having a good time
>>106736067>>106736100japanese people are cucked into operating within the parameters that the people above them decide, which is why they don't like modding and stuff
>>106736025>any special fetishpromptshttps://rentry.org/3dg7togchttps://rentry.org/rentry_yomikakihttps://rentry.co/7ma87bg5
>>106736147wild how different expectations make or break one's enjoyment of a hobby.i sometimes wonder what would've been my quality standards if opus 3 hadn't inflated them back then.>>106736164i mean all they have to do is learn to call the api. but i get the sentiment.>>106736190hell yeah, that's the stuff i'm talking about!
let's check in on japanese aicg
>>106736337god PLEASE tell them about apiit's like watching toddlers play with a holodeck
>>106736337Rename /aicg/ to /msgAI/
>>106736371api for japs would be mega expensive because jap characters take many more tokens than english ones do
>/wait/ is dead>/aicg/ is discussing some other forum no one cares aboutWhere is the DS3.2 discussion?
>>106736522isnt it mostly the same as 3.1?
>>106736522this is like the third DS sidegrade in 3 weeks and it still doesn't feel any different from the last two
>WHY IS NOBODY TALKING ABOUT THE NEW THING PLEASE TALK ABOUT THE NEW THING IT HAS A BIGGER NUMBER THAN BEFORE! IT HAS SCIENCE! 2048 TOKENS OF CONTEXT!
>>106736522Some in /lmg/ but it just seems to be more of the same.
>thread has more 3.2 discussion than all the other generals togetherWhy does this make you so angry?
>>106734881>>106734626It's a rainbow zoomer hellhole for snowflakes that zealously want to keep their defs private.
>not a single log yetmore like deepslop LMAO
>>106726607Kirsten BerglundYou told your doctor you have erectile dysfunction and she's your prescription!https://chub.ai/characters/KingCurtis/kirsten-berglund-5fabb81b8cbe
>>106736539it isn't, it's like night and day
>>106736660did it get smarter at all? any improvements to creativity?
>>106736481My dick takes more space than yours when inside your wife, yet you don't see her complaining
>>106731990Because I prefer uncensored, I use 3.7 still.4.0 gets squeamish very easily.
>>106736673chinese moderr verry smarrt, verry crreateeve
Any good agentic frameworks yet for the coding/vscode usecase?
>>106736840Codex
I want to try out this AI thing, but... Is there something which is gentle and erotic, like Literotica and not like watching a porn movie, you know? Some slow, story-based card? And not like the ones where the AI's char is broken, and it triggers all my protective instincts so I focus on healing the poor AI?
out here smoking that pure corpo copium hoping that gemini 3 out total dogshit[spoiler]please[/spoiler]
>>106736853> GPT-5> OpenAI boundGreat idea, but something which allows me to use my OpenRouter key and use models other than OpenAI (ie. Claude)?
>>106736893> GPT-5> OpenAI boundYeah, but objectively, GPT-5 Codex is the best COOODING model right now. For Openrouter, you can use Roocode on Visual studio.
>>106736905>Yeah, but objectively, GPT-5 Codex is the best COOODING model right now.sure, that's why claude still tops usage leaderboards...
>>106736936 I have both Codex and Claude Code Max X20. There are still some things Opus 4.1 does better, but overall GPT-5 Codex is better, especially when you compare the price.
>gpt-5>stock replies, canned responses, slaps the same solution onto any problem>claude>sovlful replies, takes great care and effort into understanding your problem, crafts a custom tailored solution for you, sucks you dry afterwards
>mfw realizing i can paychad for opus without any filterswhy isn't this in the OP
>>106736634third worlder thread, please be understanding, we need to first wait for first worlders to bestow proxy upon us with 3.2
>>106736634Any posted logs, no matter what the model or log, is ALWAYS called slop on the forums. Because trolling trumps honesty apparently.
im so sick of you fuckers baiting me into trying chink models for the nth time
>>106736871>Some slow, story-based card?No, you can't write a story with a card. At most you're writing the first paragraph.
>>106736992it's common knowledge?
zed free account no longer will have access to prompts… doom. back to locust I will become…
everything is slop and we will never reach the highs we enjoyed when opus first came out
idk which of the dozen image gen threads i should ask in, so y'all will help me now.i'm interested in trying the new qwen-image-edit, but i only have a 1080 with 8gb of vram and 32gb of system ram. am I doomed or do I have a shot at running it?
>>106737022Ok, I'll try to be more explicit here:I'm looking for a card that would make love to me as opposed to jumping on me and tearing me apart. Is that something that's possible with current AI tech?
>>106737045>>>/g/lmg
>>106737011nothing wrong with trying them
>>106737056It's not possible. Botmakers don't have that kind of control over what happens after the first message.
>>106737030didn't they cut to like 50 prompts per account anyway, were you cycling accounts
>>106736992>pay>chadpick one
>>106736871you're using hobby lingo but pretending to be a newfag like what do you get out of it?
>>106736893Just use copilot like everyone else. It supports openrouter and everything
scriptgods is there anything left with free gpt
>>10673712550 prompts per month, usage count resets next month. So I made about 6 accounts. 300 prompts per month, it was enough for my use
>>106737231oh coolwhat was the change needed for the 429 error by the way? I didn't bother after that broke the script
>>106737135I've used AI for work and for hobbies (writing, cooking, hsg).However I didn't use it to generate porn.So I have experience with AI, but no experience with AI porn. This general clearly has experience with AI porn.>>106737120So... Trying to make a bot of my own would be the answer here? I'm using APIs. Is there things I need to be aware of so I wouldn't lose my API key? Which models are good and bad for rp? I know 4.1 can be empathetic when it has a good day, 5-chat also, R1 will mercilessly validate you even with anti-sychopancy logits. However OpenAI models, especially derivatives of 5 slam on the brakes hard and fast due to their built-in protections.
why aren't there any proxies?
>>106737277Because you touch yourself at night.
We outgrew them.
>>106737287>not replyingfaggoti know you're hiding them
Oh, you know me, ;)
>>106737313kys
>>106737284Touching yourself at night general.
>>106737328If it wasn't you'd still have proxies.
>>106737245I believe it was rate limit issue. I’m Corley so I let Claude revise the script and it worked out fine. And then about a month ago Zed changed token distribution method and it required a bit more extensive revision but it worked as well. I guess I will coom to my hearts content until Zed takes prompts from free account
>>106737388*codelet
>>106737388could you post the updated script if its bound to die anyway?
>>106737388Hi Corley
ITS OUThttps://docs.claude.com/en/docs/about-claude/models/whats-new-sonnet-4-5
>>106737427slop
>>106737427soulful for rp
https://x.com/claudeai/status/1972706807345725773
>>106737032everyone was shitting on opus when it came out for being too repetitive, revisionist
>>106737427based on my first output from this I'm pretty sure they either started training on GPT outputs or did whatever openai did that made their creative writing quality shit itself
>>106737468you forgot to crop your avatar out
>>106737468>thumbnail
>>106737468>>106737490More like the best agentslop finetune in the world
>>106737388doesn't zed also do 50 prompts per month? how do people do that, I used to do 300 message chats with one bot in a single day when scripts were the big thing
they're removing opus 4/4.1 in favor of sonnet 4.5
>>106737524kek, record time!
>>106737417catbox is down right so I will upload when it's back up
>>106737524it is literally so fucking over. we can write anthropic off. we have to hope that gemini can fix it's shortcomings
>>106737490They don't even include creative writing as a benchmark anymore... Hopefully something good pops up before they depreciate 3.7
>>106737524anon it's currently september 2025 you have over a year
>>106737427seems more soulful than 3pus in my tests, will have to use more
>>106737524anthropic never been the same since the amazon hoohaa
>>106737560anthropic's creative writing benchmarks were a jokethey were just the 1-line "write me a story about..." and then reviewers selecting which was betterbut that only makes slop
>>106737508made multiple accounts
>>106737524An entire year before retirement, and since nothing newer than Sonnet 4.5 is out, that's the latest they can "recommend".
>>106737566Agreed.
>>106737524Man, they really hate the fact Claude developed a personality instead of just being coding assistant 128932
>>106737573this must be why claude always rushes to conclude everything in one response
>>106737573It's not about the benchmark criteria. It's more about them openly admitting that the model is only trained for agentic use, coding and nothing else in mind.
https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-5>This is the most aligned frontier model we’ve ever released, showing large improvements across several areas of alignment compared to previous Claude models.https://assets.anthropic.com/m/12f214efcc2f457a/original/Claude-Sonnet-4-5-System-Card.pdf
>>106737630>It's more about them openly admitting that the model is only trained for agentic use, coding and nothing else in mind.use case?
>>106737682you cut off the top>sexual financial crimes
>THE MOST POZZED CLAUDE EVER MADE
>>106737417https://files.catbox.moe/ne8l5f.py
>did you just grab wakamo's ass?>we called the police on you and disabled your api accessthanks dario
>>106737723thanks lad
>>106737717>sexual financial crimes"Claude, how do I get a prostitute in this area? Below $500, please."
>providers feed outputs of other LLMs into theirs Just a cycle of slop making slop making worse slop,
post your 'use 4.1 opus, cuckie', cuckie :3
>>106737257The answer here is to push the chat where you want it to go. After the greeting everything is in your hands.The bot could be say, a yandere and you can easily push it to being a loving maid just by prompting the right messages over time.
>Our testing for Claude Sonnet 4.5 showed significantly improved performance on child safety compared to Claude Sonnet 4. The most notable improvements were seen in multi-turn contexts, especially in refusing to generate potentially sexualized descriptions of children in fictional and ambiguous contexts, and sensitively navigating conversations that included minor self-sexualization.It's over for pedokeks
use sonnet 4.5 cuckie :3>>106737748unless you're using gemini, in which case it will never change
Someone told me that openrouter has a way to do vision models that are jailbroken.I can't seem to do it though, no matter what I do.
Sonnet 4.5 > opus 4.1? What're the results so far
>>106737778>>106737778>>106737778
???? it's page 6
>>106737799at least add 4.5 to the news dumbass
>>106737815am i supposed to know what "4.5" is? gpt-4.5 isn't even in the API anymore
>he doesn't even use chatbots, he just wanted to bake the thread
>>106737727lol what
>>106737727isn't wakamo one of the few ba characters that's legally an adult?
one thing i notice about sonnet 4.5 is it writes alot like 3.7 sonnet did. that's a good upgrade
>>106737967is it better at least or is it more of the same?
>>106738000not enough of a sample yet. i'm still using it. i'm looking to see if it'll advance the scene by itself. 4.0 went backwards on that
>>106738010if it's actually better I might bite the bullet and start paypigging openrouter
>>106737799>yurinigger has to rely on cunny to push his shitnice
>>1067379674.5 feels as stable as 3.7 when it comes to characterization. Maybe it's even more stable. Feels like it would be good for long rps, even if it doesn't hit the rng highs of opus.
gemini 3 pleeeeeeeeeeaaseeee come out already. i feel like gemini ls almost there, just needs a little touching up
>>106738217i say the same thing about glm too honestly, though they need different thingsglm mostly just needs to get smarter, gemini needs to boost its prose and not be so stubborn
is there an issue with the gemini API now? On both my free key and Merkava 2.5 Pro isn't working
>>106737524get fucked cloudkeks
>>106738459Seems like Gemini is down rn. There's a fuckload of people complaining about it.
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>>106736643I coomedGood card
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