>installing Arch without the wiki
>>106732127what's the point of arch, exactly? if you want a daily driver, just use ubuntu. if you want to learn how a linux system works from the ground up, then work through LFS. distros like arch and gentoo never made sense to me
>>106732198arch: up to date softwaregentoo: software tailored for your specific hardware
>>106732127boot usbtype in archinstall....are you dumb.
>>106732127macOS doesnt have this problem
>>106732198arch is for people who need an OS that functions and have more than 2 brain cells.Ubuntu is for drooling mouthbreathersLFS is for unemployed people.
>>106732198The point of Arch is mostly to be free from maintainers breaking shit by patching it and avoiding being on constantly outdated versions of packages.
>>106732198>bootstrapping gcc is learning linux
>>106732198it's just a linux distro with non ancient packages. Arch is super easy to install these days> setup partition> pacstrap> fstab / mkinitcipo > install de / wm you want> rebootI have basically memorized how to do it at this point.
>>106732281Actually it is. >captcha: G0YR2
>>106732198Lightweight (No bloat)Unopinionated (original dev defaults, easy to personalise)Bleeding EdgeCommunity of script writersAUR
>>106732549>AURI'll never trust code by tranny or a script kiddie>just read the PKG broWhile you could make the case that you should always read it, some faggot could upload a beat-for-beat Firefox package that looks normal with a rat, the AUR is shit.
>>106732127That hasn't been a problem for a couple of years. Just archinstall.
>>106732210>arch: up to date softwareFalse, the main appeal of Arch Linux is the functionality it provides - it does what you tell it to do. Frequent updates have nothing to do with it's success, but rather it's utility it provides.
>>106732212Yep. Never once used the wiki. Takes 3 mins to install arch
>>106732284Or just $ archinstall
$ archinstall
>>106732218>>106732648 Why do YouTubers always say you “need to read the Arch Wiki” to understand your system? Half the time, you’re just copy-pasting configs you’ll never touch again
>>106732218Linux works fine and also computers are my hobby.
>>106732229>he thinks he's the 1337 H4x0R because he uses arch are you 12?
>>106732635>the main appeal of Arch Linux is the functionality it provides >but rather it's utility it provides. tell me what utility Arch linux provides that makes it unique compared to other distros
>>106732198Legit had issues with Ubuntu out of the box. Biggest one was because of x11. So something that let me use Wayland was a nice change of pace even if I did go insane setting it up.
Arch ended my distro hopping. people treat it like it’s a high IQ distro, but that is actually Debian if anything. Deb was the first distro I tried, and I couldn’t get drivers to work. This was 5 years ago and it has supposedly gotten a lot better, but at the time I tried it, it was impossible.Tried the “easy” distros that people recommended like Arco/Mint/Pop. Arch ironically feels the easiest to work with. It is a blank canvas in which you can build upon with an easy minimalist installer that gives you complete control and visibility of your options without any bloat. perfect for experimenting and actually learning how Linux works. I wouldn’t use anything else.
>>106732198Arch is infinitely better as a daily driver than Ubuntu because on Ubuntu you have to spend hours and hours trying to deal with all kinds of retarded issues ranging from WiFi not working to the UI being absolute ass.
>>106732284add dmcrypt in between.do you also still have to go into all these files and add some missing lines for things to work?
>>106732793ot him, but he's right, no one thinks you're a hacker or "leet." It's just that Arch just works and is more functionalEven with Ubuntu, I have to compile stuff just to get some software, but on Arch I can just sudo pacman or paru almost anything and get what everyone is using. The fact that Arch also has install scripts makes it way easier to set up
>>106732549>Lightweight (No bloat)The ISO is over a gigabyte.
>>106732198i wont use ubuntu because ubuntu is an african word.
>>106732856This.Normalfags really think that Arch is harder because you have to type.It's so asinine.Installing Arch and using arch is so easy it's not even funny.Normalfags just want to click though.Having to use your brain for one second and having to type is inconceivable to them.To them, computers are just a bootloader for youtube and latest slop.
>>106733235YoutubeOS/TiktokOS would blow the normiesphere out of using windows/apple.
>>106732198Getting hacked.
>>106732622>hasn't been a problem for a couple of yearsI'm sorry, H O W, I was thinking it was a shitpost pic, but it used to be a problem???
>>106732856To add to your point, Debian based distros are just fundamentally inferior to Arch honestly.I remember trying when I was starting my Linux journey and it was abysmal.No wifi drivers, old "apt-get" bullshit, which is inferior to pacman and it's versatility."sudo apt-get update && sudo apt get upgrade" btwAlso, the need to use PPAs and the common installation ritual of having to curl some random script and pipe it in bash to install is just not ideal. It's akin to sharing needles with strangers.The AUR isn't perfect, and there have been attempts at malware being uploaded, but it's better as a concept because it's directly tied in to the OS.It's only considered "high IQ" because if you want to do some other stuff like dual booting with Windows, it requires messing with EFI variables and MokManager + hashes through shims.That's the beauty of Arch and Linux in general though, you can use a normal distro like Ubuntu or Manjaro and get on with your life, or get involved as much as you'd like and mess with systemd + use tiling window managers and have an involved config for your custom tailored experience.Normalfags don't like this though, they want to be spoonfed and have their programs and youtubes be readily available by clicking some faggot set of pixels on a screen
>>106733341i stopped distrohopping in like 2012 but yeah, arch used to honestly be tricky to set up depending on the particulars of your hardware. realtek drivers were complete ass (i guess this still pops up occasionally).
>>106732127Nobody cares that you're new and dumb. Go send a message on discord or make a reddit post
>>106733375>I remember trying when I was starting my Linux journey and it was abysmal.>No wifi drivers, old "apt-get" bullshit, which is inferior to pacman and it's versatility.you've said absolutely nothing that suggests any particular advantage to pacman over apt. they're honestly pretty similar tools that adequately cover all the necessary components of package management.
>>106733440I just mentioned PPAs though...Also, what is the equivalent of pacman -F and pacman -Qqm ??????????
>>106732198I mean, why not?>easier to install>all the packages are unopinionated/vanilla>up to date softwares>rolling release means you dont need to update your OS every few years>easy maintenance>install once and run it forever>minimal/not bloated ootbThis question doesnt make sense, why would you install Fedora over Ubuntu, or vice versa? Is Arch hard to you? Its pretty straightforward, personally. Its easier to use and I dont need to upgrade every few years.
>>106732210It's somewhat misleading to think that compiling software with some specific flags is better. Most users have recent cpus, instruction sets are identical.
>>106733494>I just mentioned PPAs though...i get that you don't like them, but PPAs are not all that different from the AUR tbdesu. the only real difference is that you have to subscribe to them (which isn't a bad thing since it makes package priority a first class concern).pacman -F looks like an ordinary reverse dependency search (which any real package manager will support), and is available in apt-land via dpkg -S. pacman -Qm looks like a nice convenience command, but the same general info is there in apt --installed list, which'll tell you what you didn't install using apt (you can pipe to less or grep for searching).honestly, these are both solid. i've used dozens of package tools and some of them are actual dogshit, like brew, which even in 2025 has undefined behavior in resolving dependencies.
>>106732198Arch is for if you're sexually attracted to childrengentoo is for if you're sexually attracted to Richard Stallman
>>106733304https://archlinux.org/news/the-xz-package-has-been-backdoored/>Update: To our knowledge the malicious code which was distributed via the release tarball never made it into the Arch Linux provided binaries, as the build script was configured to only inject the bad code in Debian/Fedora based package build environments. The news item below can therefore mostly be ignored.
>>106732127Last time I've checked Arch installation guide doesn't have archinstall section, nor does archinstall requires you to read wiki
>>106732793Ubuntu Unity... Home...
>>106733549I'll give you this one.I honestly haven't used much of debian based distros in a while.I'm only forced to like with WSL because of legacy and established norms.I'd wager it's more mature now and they all have the same functionality as you mention.I guess it's about convenience and simplicity, which makes me kinda of kind of a hypocrite because I just bashed normalfags for wanting simplicity It's not really the same though.A unified solid interface through the package manager is preferable to me imo.Also, rolling-realease, latest programs, more freedom, the advantage of not having to use the web to search for the PPAsAUR is goat imo
>>106732127You're not cool and hardcore for installing Arch Linux now that archinstall existsThe Arch Linux = Dark Souls of Linux faggots can shut the fuck up now
>>106733626No real Arch Linux user has ever said that though.It's an inferiority complex from Ubuntu niggers who want to throw shade and feel comfortable with their point and click OS.
>>106732218MacDonald's OS only runs on special snowflake hardware these days, it's pretty useless for most computers.
>>106732127just use arch-install
>>106733168>no one thinks you're a hacker or "leet." but he does. that's the point of my previous reply.
>>106733673>It's an inferiority complex from Ubuntu niggers who want to throw shade and feel comfortable with their point and click OS. you're projecting so hard lmao. Ubuntu users don't care about other tranny distros, they just get the job done and get on with their lives, unlike tinker trannies who spend their time ricing their shitty desktops to post it on unixporn.
>>106732198I just accept that Linux installation will break one way or another but at least I could understand which part is fucked on Arch.
>>106732604>I'll never trust code by tranny or a script kiddieBut you do trust code by multinational corporations and the CCP.
>>106732212>archinstall>partition manually to your liking>install failed due to disks (just a regular SSD)>okay, partition automatically then>hah install failed again, faggot, did you think this was anything but a ruse?I only fell for that meme a couple of times before realizing that it's not me that fails. It doesn't matter if archinstall exists in theory, it doesn't work in practice.
>>106732218Right, a kernel panic just freezes the fucking screen.
>>106732198Mint FTW
>>106732604>I'll never trust code by tranny or a script kiddie>Posted on https://www.boards.4channel.org
>>106734933wipe the drives partition table beforehand? Not like it matters nowadays as the installer does that too now.
>>106734037Arch users care even less about other distros provided you're not discussing distros that you don't like using with one. There is no greener grass on the other side for Arch users, because it's an endpoint distro. You either end up on that or Gentoo.
>>106732210fedora is just as up to date>>106732231thats actually fedora though xd
>>106732817>uses Arch>chooses to use Gayland
>>106734933Use case for manually partitioning?
