Previous >>106639767READ THE WIKI! & help by contributing:https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/Home_server>NAS Case Guide. Feel free to add to it:https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/Home_server/Case_guide/hsg/ is about learning and expanding your horizons. Know all about NAS? Learn virtualisation. Spun up some VMs? Learn about networking by standing up a OPNsense/PFsense box and configuring some VLANs. There's always more to learn and chances to grow. Think you’re god-tier already? Setup OpenStack and report back.>What software should I run?Install Gentoo. Or whatever flavour of *nix is best for the job or most comfy for you. Jellyfin/Emby/Plex to replace Netflix, Nextcloud to replace Googlel, Ampache/Navidrome to replace Spotify, the list goes on. Look at the awesome self-hosted list and ask.>Why should I have a home server?/hsg/ is about learning and expanding your horizons. De-botnet your life. Learn something new. Serving applications to yourself, your family, and your frens feels good. Put your tech skills to good use for yourself and those close to you. Store their data with proper availability redundancy and backups and serve it back to them with a /comfy/ easy to use interface.>Links & resourcesCool stuff to host: https://gitlab.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhostedRouterOS's: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/Home_server#Customhttps://reddit.com/r/datahoarderhttps://www.labgopher.comhttps://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/wiki/indexhttps://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/FeaturesList of ARM-based SBCs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PGaVu0sPBEy5GgLM8N-CvHB2FESdlfBOdQKqLziJLhQLow-power x86 systems: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LHvT2fRp7I6Hf18LcSzsNnjp10VI-odvwZpQZKv_NCICheap disks: https://shucks.top/ & https://diskprices.com/Remember:RAID protects you from DOWNTIMEBACKUPS protect you from DATA LOSS
my server runs windows 10 and will never need anything else
>finally switched ISP and they give me gigabit upload and they have no rules against self-hosting businesses
Is there a better method than smart long -> badblocks -> smart long for burn in and validation before drives are put into service?
>>106732638>finally switched from my roommate's plan (we went a month without Internet and he wanted to switch from cable Internet to T-Mobile so I took over his drop) now if I get the shit cut off for a DMCA violation he has nothing to whine about
>>106732562Ready for a brown out
How important are NAS-specific drives in a NAS system? AI tells me it's a big deal importance but I figure you good cunts know betterI have a 16tb Seagate IronWolf and a 12tb WD Red Plus Pro. I also have a 16tb WD White Label that was shucked from a used Elements drive (40 power on hours).All Helium as far as I'm aware. Are there any drawbacks in using the White Label over the Red Plus Pro in my NAS? Pairing the 16b Ironwolf with the 16tb White label will give me 4tb more storage than pairing with the 12tb red plus pro, but I'm not sure I'll really need it. If the NAS drives are going to work better should I just use them and maybe swap out in future should the need arise?
Debian, Alma or Rocky for server?
>>106735165Artix
>>106734924A white label could be good or bad. It isn't intended for direct consumer use so they don't assign it a use case like that.You have to look into the specific drive model rather than just going by "white label". At one time they were debranded Reds quite commonly, but not so much anymore.After that, check for Helium and CMR."5400 class" is common, but doesn't actually mean it spins at 5400 RPM. It just means the firmware is tuned to decrease noise and heat and the expense of read speeds. Practically every WD drive is 7200 RPM.
>>106734924It really doesn't matter so long as they are cmr. I ran 2 and 3tb wd blues in my shitbox for I think 3 years or so without issue before I decided to go full retard with self hosting and needed a lot more space
How do you anons do your language rules on radarr/sonarr for anime? I use profilarr and I want it to grab dual audio torrents preferably but when I tested it the first try was a dual audio japanese and English commentary track kek. I see there's something like this for trash guides but I'm not sure if the point values will mesh with profilarr well. I also don't want it to not download something because it doesn't have English at all.
sorry bros, for I have sinned. it's JMB582.
>>106732562How complex is nginx really? All the tutorials show how to setup main root and few location related tricks. Whenever I ask try a llm it seems to pull complex directives that actually work.Where do I learn these? The documentation I found is also pretty basic. And how much I should actually learn?
>see a good (not "too good to be true", reasonably good) deal on used datacenter HDDs>want to buy some>not sure if the seller is legit, also want to check the condition of their drives>order one as a sample before placing a bulk order>first drive arrives, it's carefully packaged, everything is exactly as advertised, perfect condition>so far so good, order one more drive>second drive arrives>open the package before accepting>fucking niggers sent me a 4tb Seagate drive instead of the 16tb one that I ordered>they didn't even bother swapping labels, just chucked the wrong drive into the box and called it a day>send that shit back without ever touching itWhat was even the thought process here? They expected me to not notice? They expected to somehow bullshit their way out of this?
>>106737210If its aliexpress, its probably some chinks gaming the system
Saars when is DDR5 RDIMMs getting cheaper?I just spent 200 bucks for just 64 gigabytes and it's a fucking scam I tell you
>>106735429>>106735490Thanks anons, appreciate it.I tried to look up the specific drive label but didn't find much honestly. Maybe I Just don't know where to look It's the WDC WD160EDGZ. As far as I can tell it is a Heliuum drive but I don't know if it's a Red or anything or how to find out. I think it's CMR, but not certain. CrystalDisk gives the rotation rate as 7200RPM. >>106735490Thanks anon, I might be on a similar journey. What is the actual difference then in real terms with NAS specific drives and non NAS specific drives? Still in two minds because the Elements drive is used. Thinking if I should just go with the 12tb+16tb pairing and then swap out the 12tb with the 16tb in future if I need more. But even then that might be stupid
>>106732562imagine the warm toilet seat in the winter.god i wish that were me.
>Be me (retard)>Getting fiber for the first time at my house>Order the 2g symmetrical package since I do some jellyfin hosting>Buy 2.5g switches and NICs several months ago in advance so muh server is ready>Get email>"You've been bumped up to 3g nigga!">Fuck, I already bought 2.5g hardware>Decide I can live without the extra 500mbps just to do some streaming stuff>Week of installation>Get a call from the account rep to schedule the install>"Ay we upped you to 4g for free since you signed up early"I know I shouldn't complain but fucking hell. I should have just bought 5g hardware from the start.
>>106739285enjoy your niggagigga zhanghai baidu year of the dragon edition switch fuckface.
>>106738323https://nascompares.com/answer/list-of-wd-cmr-and-smr-hard-drives-hdd/Differences are usually just warranty length and some firmware differences, and cmr vs smr of course (but seemingly not so much anymore unfortunately)
>>106738323>EDGZFrom what I recall that's a fine drive. No problems. Go ahead and use it.A lot of these white labels are ultimately rebranded HGST drives as well, just to add an extra layer to this. I have some whites that display as He10 Ultrastars in a SMART test. Quite common.
>>106737210>They expected me to not notice?Yes, if you think this is unrealistic then you are SEVERELY overestimating the mental faculties of the average retard floating about.Ever since covid I've had vendors, way more than just once and it keeps getting more and more common, come back to me before accepting orders because they wanted to make sure I knew what the fuck I was doing and wasn't another retard literally buying a 2000€ motherboard to then complain that their 2012 i5 can't fit in the socket and that it's broken.I've sold a bunch of old servers and spare parts a few years ago and the questions I got were absolutely fucking baffling, like so utterly nonsensical that I wasn't sure if I was being trolled or not. I ended up selling everything to companies looking for replacement parts because just based on the questions I knew I'd end up getting fucked after the site would inevitably side with the retard slamming a GPU into a DIMM slot and then claiming I sold the mobo defective like that.
>>106735165debian or centos stream, clones are trannyware
>>106740371Everything is trannyware. Debconf photo has on of the mental illnesses flags. CentOS Stream is, well, stream. It's not really that stable. I mean probably not noticeable but why take chances when there are alternatives
>>106740041>>106740092Thanks a bunch. It's weird for me because I bought the Elements 16tb drive just as a backup drive for the data on the NAS. Bought it used like new thinking it won't be a big deal. For my NAS I wanted 2 12tb drives, but ended up with a 12tb Red Plus and a 16tb Ironwolf. was just gonna run it in Raid mirror backup and miss out on 4tb, but if there's no difference between a NAS and non NAS drive as long as they're both CMR, then maybe I should keep one of my NAS drives as a backup instead and run the Elements drive in the NASRed Plus or Ironwolf, which is better to pair with?
>>106737210Non-schizo answer: They sent the wrong one by mistake. It happens
>>106739285>5g hardwareyou mean 10g
>>106740371rocky if you want rhel basednot sure what debian offers that you would specifically need.otherwise just use gentoo
Was gonna get pic rel until I realized it ONLY does pcie x1, which means it requires pcie 4 to reach 10G and my server is pcie 3.It's over
>>106742777good. realtek got rid of the crab. it's dead to me.
>>106732607>Windows>ServerYou have a desktop anon, a shitty one>>106732638I can't empathize with caring what my ISP does or doesn't not want me to do with the server I buy from them>>106738256$200 should have got you 192gb you retard
>>106732562>me pissing all over the toilet paper and then saying fuck it and pissing all over the rack after 3 friday afternoon beers at the office
>>106732562Oh boy, shit particles all over my server ports and cables
>>106743170get in there and fix it wagie. i don't care if bubba the janitor is in there taking a shit. do it or i'll fire you and hire ranjeet.
>>106742777Look into cards with the AQC113 controller, which are comparable, but usually come in x4 format. Of course, if you're using an x4 port, you also have the option of surplus enterprise x4 cards (like those based on the Intel X550), or even x8 if you're willing to open the end of your PCIe slot.
>>106743434>aqc113More expensive but will consider>enterprisehousefire
>>106732607me2win 10pro, 128gb ram, some yee yee ahh 4x1gbe intel nic.everything on hyperv. opnsense, and some VM for everything else
Got a NAS and I see people recommending an SSD, either for cache or as an install location for apps.What capacity size SSD would I need for either purpose? I've seen suggestions of 1TB for each but I don't understand how either are going to need that much storage?
I have a halo strix mini pc (ryzen 9 ai hx 370, 96gb ram) and a decapitated ux430 zenbook. It all runs through a mini 2.5g switch and a brand new slate 7 router (the pi runs the ubiquiti network app and nothing else atm). I want to host a drawpile and a minecraft server, maybe some music streaming and tailscale exit node. I already use tailscale on all my other shit. Which computer should host what and how do I keep my server(s) from being megaraped?
>>106740501>>106742773Centos Stream IS stable. It incorporates features and fixes that are targeted for upcoming RHEL minor releases. These changes are tested before landing in Stream. It's basically a minor release ahead of RHEL.If for example you were running an RHEL 9 server, and your applications would run fine on 9.1, they would also run fine on Stream.https://medium.com/@gordon.messmer/in-favor-of-centos-stream-e5a8a43bdcf8
>gl.inet router flashed with openwrt can run for hours off an old power bank, even when running travelmate and multiwan3 + USB modem for failoverThis feels like a cheatcode.
>buy a couple of 8TB used drives from ebay in April, do not even bother to open the box as summer is coming>do i finally now, one of the drives has a stripped threads in just that screw hole needed for my caddiesBlame on me but I hate when people wont decom properly and sell defective stuff.
>>106746154kek, I've had somewhat the opposite of this with holes jammed with nylok or something
newfag here setting up my first serverhow secure are things like cf tunnels/tailscale funnels/pangolin?i have a couple of services i want to only be accessible through vpn and a few i want to be available through a tunnel, and i can't decide if it'd be fine to just shit them all on the same machine or if i should at least separate them in different vms
>>106735165Hard to go wrong either way. I typically run either Debian or Alma. Alma is a RHEL clone but without the requirement for licensing above a certain number of installed nodes. Me personally, I will typically run debian unless I'm learning about RHEL centric setups for resume entries, stuff like Satellite, Openshift, SElinux. Everything else will get Debian installs. I've really been liking using Alma though so I'm thinking about cutting over to using alma as my default as well.
>>106741076>Red Plus or Ironwolf, which is better to pair with?It doesn't make much difference. It it were me I would put all three of them in there and use RAID5 or SnapRAID so one is a parity drive. It will double your available storage.
>>106745790Of course there's gonna be posts justifying Red Hat policies. By Red Hat. It only makes Alma look good – providing RHEL-compatuble platform that is not built from some stolen source of RHEL.>>106742773Rocky has questionable community, seemingly purging everyone who's opinion is not compliant with the "founder" who's role in CentOS is clearly overstated.Debian offers stability. Not in terms of just distro, but future-wise too. It's always there and always will be. Rocky might die because of Red Hat further fucking up getting source, Alma depends on CentOS which is controlled by Red Hat is we all learned.
>>106747605Did you try Rocky? Is it just biased cuz tries to be another CentOS while being clearly worse than Alma?
>>106742777I think x1 slot compatibility is the whole point of this product.>>106742857 is right though.
maybe this is the opposite of the thread where i should ask this, but i was looking into setting up a remote hosted nextcloud instance on digitalocean and they storage space is very expensive, close to 100$/month for 1TB. is this normal or am I doing something wrong? is this why you guys self host, you prefer to buy your own HDDs?
>>106749262backblaze rents storage for 6$/tb
what's the best way to assign services www addresses on a private network? right now i have an rpi running nginx with a shitty webpage and hyperlinks to everything, but it seems like there should be a better way. i can't do it on my router or DNS server, neither will accept non port 80/443 redirects.
>>106747733>It doesn't make much difference. It it were me I would put all three of them in there and use RAID5 or SnapRAID so one is a parity drive. It will double your available storage.I need a backup though, if I shoved all 3 in there I'd have no backup whatsoever. These are basically all the hard drives I currently have kek.
How come no one wants to talk about why storage is expensive?Why are people afraid to mention the Jew? The parasite that is bottomless and wants everything censored?It's baffling.
>>106749650you mean to self host a DNS for local name resolution? probably dnsmasq or unbound
>>106746976>newfag hereyou don't need to tell us, redditor
>>106748498>>106748543rocky user hereI only use it for free ipa. I had a server running it but the choices RHEL make are just stupid sometimes so I moved the rocky install to a container.
>>106750206If that is your focus, then what you say makes sense.For me, I think a backup beyond parity on all of my data is excessive, and I have SnapRAID parity for my files, and then for the actually important stuff that I could use to rebuild those files (torrent files, set up scripts, personal writing) that I mirror to a smaller drive and to my phone's hard drive (really as many drives as I can easily sycnhronise to).Unless you are a photographer, video editor, some other kind of heavy digital files content creator, it is unlikely you seriously need to back up that much stuff with that much redundancy. It's all third party media content, right? You can get that stuff again for the most part, and stuff that you can't is not worth caring about all that much. It's just media.
>>106749262It's been a while since I looked into it, but yes cloud storage can be quite expensive.>>106749474Throughput rates though? They're pretty dang slow if I recall correctly.
