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GPL is a terrible license that should not exist.
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why would no one be able to use the code op?
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>>106732913
GPL is jewish cancer, use literally anything else
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>>106732957
it requires everyone else publish on the same license
it's basically a fucking virus for patent trolling
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GPL is the license of fascists.
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>>106732913
>>106732957
>>106732962
>>106732964
>>106732982
Shalom.
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Is it that time of the year again?
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>>106732982
white male with a beard?
male with a white beard?
punctuation, nigger. uses it.
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>>106732913
>Are you sure? No one might be able to use your code.
Yes
>Are you sure? No one might be able to use your code.
Yes
>Are you sure? No one might be able to use your code.
Yes, add a +NIGGER license as well
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>>106732988
Curses goy, you've ruined my evil scheme to shut GPL down forever
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>>106732994
holy shit what a legend
HR ladies and Lee BTFO
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>>106732994
>ching and chong are close personal friends
orly
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>>106732982
How can I apply GPL-3 to everything I do in life? I do not know how to code.
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if they want to use my code without being subject to the GPL they should just pay me to license it to them separately
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>>106732994
Im so glad i only work with white people
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>>106732994
workplace politics are such cancer this can't be real
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gpl is actually a license unlike the chuck licenses. it is there to protect both the developer and the consumer. the consumer can view and modify the source code, and the developer (in theory) can prevent his work from being stolen by corps. all derivatives must be open source too, there by preventing companies from using it in the proprietary software. the mit "license" is there so your work can be taken without credit, which is why it is being pushed, so they can have free labor.
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>>106732913
If your software is free, no one cares what your license is.
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where does lgpl3 stand?
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>>106733181
it's goated
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>>106732994
>this last point would be disastrous, and suing francis would not recover the lost potential profit
these corporate tards really think the moment they open source something they spend money developing, it's like throwing all that money away because their engineers are just that good and their products are just that easy to copy. it will likely top 3 stars on github then be forgotten 3 days after. it really pisses me off when people make the world a worse place because they overestimate their value.

I bet it's just some custom linux for a cancerous "smart tv" or whatever, it's completely worthless because it's tied to the hardware. the only worth of this getting released is to check for unpatched exploits to root the thing and remove the cancerous spyware from the firmware.

really, nothing of value.
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>>106733110
You have no idea how bad it is until you see it for yourself.
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>>106732962
>>106732988
>you're a jew!
>no YOU'RE a jew!
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>>106732994
HR lady is probably not making anything bad, just stupid. Are they retarded to not know you can arrange different license than GPL with original authors?
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>>106732994
>6 fucking paragraphs of melodrama before actually getting to the problem in question
HR needs to die in a fucking pit
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>>106732913
btw, how many contributions from Apple to FreeBSD?
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>>106733227
thread theme
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHSNZK4Je-Y
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>>106733181
It’s too C-centric for anyone to care about it
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>>106733255
Someone post the Apple donating $20 dollars to BSD foundation
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>>106733255
You're a communist.
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>>106733212
This.
It would probably get them more sales if they adhere to the license and publish the source. Similar to what happened to Linksys routers when they published their source after getting sued for it.
The competition isn't going to do shit with their IoT code. They need their own developers anyway.

It's just corporate bullshit of people who think that they are more important than they really are.
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>>106733272
perfect for gatekeeping jeets like yourself
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>>106732913
>GPL is a terrible license that should not exist.
Agree, GPL+NIGGER is the only license that should exist
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>>106733378
AGPLv3+NIGGER+Epstein
All copies of this program must contain a copy of the license, the word NIGGER, and an acknowledgement that Trump went to Epstein's island dozens of times to rape children
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>>106733460
I think it's hilarious how you people only started caring about Epstein after 4 years of Biden not releasing the files.
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>>106732982
Omg o love GPL now
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>>106733533
I cant even spot which side of culture warrior you are, because this could apply to both...

In any way, if a mention of Epstein keeps you out, it seems like a good proposal.
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>>106733533
You know what he also didn't do? Release the philes
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>>106732982
Fuck, see why do faggots gotta say things like this? Now I want to shill for GPL-3. Stupid fucking trannies
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>>106732964
Yeah that's the point lmfao
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>>106733181
Good, corpos can use your code but they can't steal your code, they just have to keep obj files around.
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>>106732994
>Canada
>Lee
>Ling
>Bloatware techbros

I hope Francis blows up the whole damn company with the compromat.
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>>106733272
Qt is LGPL and it's probably the single most used UI framework.
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>your source code should be FOSS
>but only when i can steal it and make it closed
lol, the tiny-hats never rest with this shit
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>>106732964
fake news.

megacorps are free to train their llms on gpl code and then use the llm's output.
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>>106732982
Why are these people trying to make me like GPL?
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>erm... are you using a heckin GPL licerino? That's le BAD because your going to make Google, Microsoft, and Apple not want to use your code
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>>106732982
Wtf i love GPL now
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>>106732957
Because OP wants to make money from your code without giving you anything in return. But GPL doesn't let him. So OP is mad.
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>>106732982
AGPL it is then.
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>>106733908
N1GG3R+ license
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with the gpl apple and google wouldn't have been able to lock down their mobile devices
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>>106733916
lies, that's gplv3 -- an license incompatible with earlier gpl versions.
gplv2 has no problem with tivotization. google's android uses the gplv2 linux kernel just fine.

here's torvalds:
>Stallman calls it "tivoization", but that's a word he has made up, and a term I find offensive, so I don't choose to use it. It's offensive because Tivo never did anything wrong, and the FSF even acknowledged that. The fact [is] that they do their hardware and have some DRM issues with the content producers and thus want to protect the integrity of that hardware. The kernel license covers the *kernel*. It does not cover boot loaders and hardware, and as far as I'm concerned, people who make their own hardware can design them any which way they want. Whether that means "booting only a specific kernel" or "sharks with lasers", I don't care.
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>>106732957
mr shekelburgstein won't let them
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>>106733891
If company likes my code, then they can hire me to get new code under any license they want.
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>>106732913
fine, you really want me to use a cuck license? MIT+NIGGER it is then
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>>106732994
GPL'd
Built for GPL
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GPLv2 and LGPLv2.1 are fine, as long as you pay attention to the v3 incompatibilities.
GPLv3 and AGPL I would never use myself.
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>>106732913
What do I get from somebody stealing my code? GPL works as intended. I use AGPL actually.
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>>106733967
are you retarded?
normal people would just dual-license.
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>>106734032
GPL allows you to be a kike like this?
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>>106733533
the jewish way of blackmailing politicans with underage prostitutes is even in jued suess movie.
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>>106734038
of course. you as the copyright holder can license your code however you like. you do not lose any copyrights by licensing it to someone.
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>>106734038
Yes, but only if you're the copyright holder. If you've allowed other contributors, you must get them to sign a release to consent you owning their work.
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>>106734048
based kike, I am sorry for ever doubting their ability to sneak in a path to profit
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>>106733908
>AGP
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>>106734067
You can also use GPL3 code for a proprietary network service, and never have to redistribute any derivatives you've made. For that reason AGPL3 exists to lock down that loophole.
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>>106734032
Actually yeah, i'm retarded, because i forgot about QT as well.
Basically, you benefit from contributions under GPL and then sell result of contributors work for profit? Heh.
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>>106734061
I don't need to get shit from them. I simply need a public policy stating that I will not accept your patches unless they're under the license that I approve of and you either get your attention or you get out of my sight because I have better things to do than accept patches for your worthless feature I never needed.
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>>106734081
>sell result of contributors work for profit
Only if they cuck themselves. If even one contributor tells them to fuck off, they must remove or rewrite all of your contributions.
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>>106734082
That's fine if you do it from the start. Usually the desire to dual license only matters once the project is well known and useful. By that time, you have have accepted some innocent patch.
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>>106734088
I don't have a desire to dual license.
A company could hire me and I'd refuse even if it was for position of CEO. Gtfo, kike.
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>>106734078
agpl3 failed at locking down that loophole. see mongodb.
>As of October 2018, MongoDB is released under the Server Side Public License (SSPL), a non-free license developed by the project. It replaces the GNU Affero General Public License, and is nearly identical to the GNU General Public License version 3, but requires that those making the software publicly available as part of a "service" must make the service's entire source code (insofar that a user would be able to recreate the service themselves) available under this license. By contrast, the AGPL only requires the source code of the licensed software to be provided to users when the software is conveyed over a network.[60][61]
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>>106734085
*your -> their
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>>106734081
>Actually yeah, i'm retarded, because i forgot about QT as well.
Fun fact: it was stallman that convinced Qt to be licensed under a dual license. At first it was proprietary only, and he convinced them to license it under lgpl as well. Before that, kde relied on proprietary qt. Stallman has done the same for an audio codec library, I forgot which one it was now.
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>>106734092
no worries.
we just train our llm on your gpl code and then ask the llm for your code.
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>>106732913
I'm only using AGPL3+NIGGER licence
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>>106734093
Webshitter problems.
My code is actively webshitter hostile, if they can make money off my code then they earned it.
100% of my code assumes that it is running on x86_64, was compiled with latest GNU GCC. Is running on latest Linux etc etc.
If you can copy paste that onto your server and profit, I won't be mad, I will be impressed, especially because configuration files end in extension ".hpp" and the way you build my project is by running make.
>>106734102
If you can figure out where my code is to begin with. Spoiler: it's not on clearnet, I'm not looking for reddit popularity. I'm okay with less than 5 people ever seeing it and only one other person besides me ever using it.
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>>106734093
Im not sure if that statement is accurate. Google allows gpl code internally but not agpl, because agpl spreads like a cancer
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>>106734093
Well it's a good thing Mongo sucks, there's no temptation to use it.
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>>106734115
Retard.
https://www.gnu.org/licenses/agpl-3.0.en.html
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>>106733284
>Someone post the Apple donating $20 dollars to BSD foundation
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>>106734118
mongo stopped sucking after they bought wiredtiger and use wiredtigers' solid storage engine. (think mysql after innodb)
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>>106734148
https://www.quora.com/What-goes-into-making-an-OS-to-be-Unix-compliant-certified
>We had a lot of gratitude in the Open Source community — particular for our fixes to make bash pass the tests.
>You have absolutely no idea how much Apple contributed to the Open Source community, as part of this project, because it was a secret project — at least to people outside Apple — so we didn’t advertise the fact.
>But I expect we contributed about two million lines of code, to hundreds of Open Source projects, over the course of that year.
>A lot of gratitude — but it wasn’t collective, and so Apple was still faulted for “using Open Source code, but never contributing back”.
>We fixed at least 15 major gcc bugs, for example.
>You have no idea.
-- Terry Lambert
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>>106734186
>gcc
BSDcucks need not apply.
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>>106734195
guess who wrote clang
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>>106732913
>Oy vey let us monetize your code without contributing anything back goy
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I will never write code just for big corporations making it into proprietary software. GPL will protect your freedom.
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>>106732913
>no one might be able to use it
If it works well I'll just refactor the code a bit (which I do anyway) and give no credit
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>>106733010
White beard is an expression you newfaggot
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>>106732964
so don't use the code.

>>106732982
wtf I'm a GPL Grenade now
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>Yes, but if I don’t steal it, someone else is gonna steal it
that's what anti agplv3 think of your work.
this posts is an agenda by the jews to makes you work for them for free, do not be a cuck and stick with gpl 3 or even agpl 3 software until we completely eradicate them.
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AGPLv3+NIGGER
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Not a fan of GPL. If I publish my code on Github I want it to be usable by the broadest possible audience, and that includes commercial companies. If I use GPL: it forces anyone who uses my work to open source all their shit. That's why I use MIT license for all my stuff.
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>>106732913
The GPL killed binary distribution of software. The GPL directly led to the SaaS hell of today. The GPL mostly punishes hobbyists and small companies. The GPL is anti-freedom. The GPL is a ball and shackle on the true FOSS world.
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>>106734398
So true sister, compiling at home is too hard. Everything must be mystery binary that's poorly optimized.
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>>106734389
>If I use GPL: it forces anyone who uses my work to open source all their shit
These are the words freetards tell people, but in practice, this means
>If I use GPL, it forced anyone not to use my work
in most cases.
It especially goes for AGPL and similar licenses (in which case it's ALL cases, not just most)
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>>106734389
>>106734398
the license kike is on damage control you must imprint this >>106734360 in your mind, AGPL v3+NIGGER+KEK(KILL EVERY KIKE) all the way.
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>>106732982
Why all trannies are mentally unhinged? Never met a single mentally sound one.
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>>106734407
>billions must compile
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>>106734520
only an impoverished turd worlder would find a problem with that
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>>106734484
By definition they're mentally unsound. Some manage to keep it together longer than others, but eventually a meltdown ensues.
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>>106732913
Torrenting linux ISOs violates the GPL.
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>>106734543
u r brainlet
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>>106732913
GPL only prevents regular people from using it.
Corporations can afford to steal it or just rewrite it from scratch.
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>>106734527
Imagine having to compile the firmware for your dishwasher and washing machine. And it involved downloading some 2GB Siemens Step 7 dependency. And then you need to learn how to hook up that shit.
And then imagine what your grandma would do with that information. Probably get a stroke
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>>106734584
She'd probably stop being worthless entitled boomer and start washing it with her hands like women are supposed to.
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>>106734595
Hope you compiled every part of your car to back that up. Because billions must compile.
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>>106732913
>But sitting there, quietly powering masses of the internet, without saying boo to a goose, is FreeBSD. And the companies using it? They’re not talking about it. Why? Because they don’t have to. The simple fact that dawned on me is FreeBSD’s gift to us all, yet Achilles heel to itself, is its license.
>Unlike the GPL, which requires you to share derivative works, the BSD license doesn’t. You can take FreeBSD code, build on it, and never give anything back. This makes it a great foundation for products — but it also means there’s little reason for companies to return their contributions.
https://freebsdfoundation.org/blog/the-report-of-my-death-was-an-exaggeration/
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>>106734619
I don't have a car.
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>>106734643
your worldview kinda reflects that
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>>106734484
>Why are the mentally unhinged mentally unhinged?
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>>106734658
And neither should you.
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>>106732913
GPL and AGPL are aryan
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>>106733025
Based
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>>106734389
Why do you want your code to be used by commercial companies? You don't even get credit so whats the point?
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>>106734398
As a gentooman I can't relate
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>>106734199
>guess who wrote clang
Some college kid.

He wanted to contribute it for gcc-next, but the exposed intermediate code was not considered kosher at the time, because it makes it too easy to combine with closed source software.
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>>106732982
hmm sweaty GPL is a chud license because gahnoo stallman is heckin problematic icky or something
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>>106733539
>I belong
>yes you are one of us we kill you last
rofl
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>>106732982
WTF a troon is accurate for once?
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>>106734837
Drew Devault said that Stallman is a fascist. Don't use the GPL, it harms companies .
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>>106732913
>no greedy fuck might be able to use your code
fify
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>>106732913
>no one might be able to use your code
this sentence is so ESL it makes me irrationally angry
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>>106733066
Finally. TPBP
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>>106735222
You are circumcised
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>>106735222
>>106735296
Time for duck tape!
capcha:x2gay
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>>106735296
jews love filling other countries with foreigners.
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>>106732988
and a good evening to you rabbi stallman
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>>106732913
Fuck off corporate drone youre not entitled to use my code, I choose AGPL specifically so you can't use my code
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>>106733947
Torvalds has no fucking spine. What a little bitch. Corpo bootlicker
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>>106732964
>pull the repo privately
>remove all reference to the upstream
>add Orwellian telemetry
>compile.exe
>ship the binaries
What's stopping people from getting away with this?
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>>106735769
The copyright holder suing the user of the modified GPL code. It's not too effective, however it's also a constant liability so companies are not too keen on exposing themselves to that risk
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LLM training scrapers set the legal precedent that licenses don't matter anymore.
It's free source code.
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>>106735849
If you ban the use of AI in the license then the issue is proving the LLM scrapped and used your code for learning right? people should look into that see if it can be done
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>>106734398
The SaaS hell of today has little to nothing to do with the GPL. Collecting rent is the superior business model. Hosting as much of the code as you can prevents people running cracked software, which means "more people" are paying you subscription fees. It's that easy. GPL doesn't even enter into it, and working around GPL is easy enough anyway as almost any library worth using has a linking exception.
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>>106735945
They don't need permission if it's fair use.
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>>106735989
is it fair use if you explicitly state they can't use your code for that on the license? can you forbid them from using your work that way somehow?
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>>106736003
You cannot restrict fair use with a license. That's the point. If you release your work then AI is allowed to use it. End of story. Stop trying to hold back the future, leech.
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>>106732957
i dont think they are intending people to "use" their code, thats why they use gpl
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>>106736003
A license is a way of giving people permission.
Fair use doesn't require permission.
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if I make a web service - AGPL 3
for offline software - GPL 3

simple as
btw. I don't even like Stallman, he's a retarded autist
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>>106736015
You are literally the leech, also AI is a cancer I wish for all the marketing departments hyping it up and die. AI R&D was so much better before it went mainstream
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>>106736023
why not just use AGPL for both? they could always hook a web client to your offline software to provide a service like interface

>>106736021
I see, so the only way would be getting the government to outlaw and regulate such use, that sucks
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>>106736040
You are the leech for demanding people pay you for the trash you throw into the street. AI is the future and I cannot wait for it to replace people like you who think you deserve anything for your garbage shit code. Developers are greedy and do not deserve anything.
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>>106732913
>use your code
If by "use" you mean steal my code without ensuring it remains free, I don't want people to use it.
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>>106734286
No it isn't
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>>106736058
If its garbage then why is it valuable to you? I dont want to be paid for my trash I simply dont want you using them, you are the leech for thinking you are entitled to the things I make without me having a say in it.

I hope you die, and I can't wait for the bubble to burst so morons like you shut the fuck up and we can go back to developing AI in peace and silence
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>>106736023
>GPL = Gigachad Personal License
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>>106732982
gpl3 it is
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>>106732964
In the case of GPLv2, yes. It is open to abuse with patent trolling.
But GPLv3 does not allow that. In fact, your license is revoked if you attempt to sue people with patent troll tactics.
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>>106736144
AGPL don't forget there's a loophole in GPL allowing services to circumvent it
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Reminds me thst grapheme OS's schio dev made his browser gpl3 on purpose so gpl2 licensed b/cromite couldn't use code from it.
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>>106732962
The Jews giving something away for free lol, lmao even.
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>>106736015
>then AI is allowed to use it.
Possibly. Depending on the circumstances of the particular case.
Also whether a particular output infringes copyright or not is a separate issue from the training data.
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I don't understand, why is it GPL so controversial why does so many people start to seethe when you tell them they cant use a certain thing?
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translation:

>companies cannot use your code for profit

The only way a company can use a GPL or AGPL licensed computer program is if a representative of the company takes the responsability of talking to you, as the creator, and negotiate a change in the license with you directly.

AGPL and GPL forces the company to talk to you and reach terms.

With MIT or BSD they don't need to talk to you, they don't need shit from you.

This is a demoralization propaganda to give GNU licenses bad optics, so people migrate to MIT/BSD licenses so companies can take your software just like they did with Old man Tanenbaum.

Do not fall for this bullshit.
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>>106732982
I was already convinced, anon.
>>106734484
>Why all trannies are mentally unhinged?
Gender dysphoria is a mental illness, trannies are by definition mentally ill.
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>write my own license
>"this software can only be used by straight, white men (biological)"
>get banned from github
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>>106734978
>it harms companies
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>>106736262
>AGPL and GPL forces the company to talk to you and reach terms.
there is no obligation to do so retard
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The GPL has been invaluable for me as a software developer, it's like a giant sign that says "a lawyer or politician wrote this, not an engineer " and saves me entire minutes when evaluating which libraries to use.
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>>106736296
How come? Can you please elaborate?
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>>106735968
>The SaaS hell of today has little to nothing to do with the GPL
no but it does encourage it since it's fair game to saas niggers
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>>106733869ex
exactly. if you use anything other than gpl, you're a cuck by admission.
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>>106736309
>use the code on a server
>don't talk to author
>author can't do shit
are you not listening to the saas complaints?
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>>106735222
t. ESL
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>>106736262
what you are referring to is commercial or dual licenced projects, not vanilla gpl
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>>106735945
The issue is that all of the companies training LLMs have hundreds of billions or even trillions of dollars and they will win in court because that's how American courts work.
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>>106732994
Based Francis
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>>106736334

To understand the true strength of a license or law, such as the issues we are discussing in this thread, we must look at the situation from the company's perspective.

Everyone can use whatever software they want, just as today everyone can pirate software and digital assets, a company can use GPL and AGPL and not comply with their terms. However, the point is that, for a large corporation that must fully comply with the law, deliberately and internally violating the terms of a product or service is a situation that increases their risk surface by several orders of magnitude, it is a “secret open front”, so to speak.

In an organization with hundreds of thousands of people, all it takes is a single angry employee, a single internal threat armed with concrete and credible evidence that the company is violating the consuming license of a product or service, to produce sufficient grounds to build a legal case against the organization in question.

That is the gap companies want to close with the use of MIT/BSD.
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>>106736345
I will take a look into it. Thanks anon.
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>>106736409
deploying on a server without the author's consent is valid under gpl. agpl is another story but nobody touches that shit automatically
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>>106736409
>all it takes is a single angry employee, a single internal threat armed with concrete and credible evidence that the company is violating the consuming license of a product or service
https://apnews.com/article/openai-whistleblower-suchir-balaji-death-283e70b31d34ebb71b62e73aafb56a7d
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>>106736448
the photos are very telling there was foul play. Sfpd are also incompetent retards that let everything slide, how convenient for sama. probably saves a bunch of money in bribes
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>>106736448
rip bozo
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>GPL license
"free" license that forces you to use the same license if you even look at the code and is incompatible with other free licenses
>MIT license
Free license no restrictions

>but muh corpos
Dont care free is free
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>sharing your source without getting paid for it
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>>106736482
>incompatible with other free licenses
this is why it's gay
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>>106736515
it's also the essence of the license. its entire purpose is to force you to do things the jew commie's way. for 'freedom'.
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>>106736511
>writing code no one will ever use
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>>106736537
do you spend a lot of time writing code that's not intended to be used by you or a customer?
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>can't afford enterprise level servers? sorry, you can't feed yourself with my code
>why yes Mr shekelstien, please abuse my licence and pay me nothing!
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>>106732913
GPL is literally communism.

The irony is that FOSS is now larger than ever before, and we managed to convince large corporations to contribute to largest FOSS projects and even share some of their code under free licenses. FOSS is doing really great right now but GPLfags will never admit it because they believed GPL is the only way to accomplish it. They wanted to seize power for themselves hiding under the mask of "freedom". Yet, GPL is dying, FOSS is thriving and gnutards are seething lmao.
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>>106736557
I dont use GPL so no
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>>106736569
is communism about gatekeeping a goy class and providing to the bourgeoisie? wait that's exactly what actual commies do
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>>106736586
>worships a fungal jew
>accuses others of being in thrall
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>>106734623
>You can take FreeBSD code, build on it, and never give anything back. This makes it a great foundation for products — but it also means there’s little reason for companies to return their contributions.
cuck license sisters... not like this...
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>>106736448

Exactly, this is the nature of the situation we are dealing with.
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>>106736448
>>106736468
>>106736478
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>>106736257
Because it means they can't capitalism
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>>106736140
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>>106736645
>they can't capitalism
privileged (((people))) are allowed to. you are too esl to understand this
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>>106732913
https://plusnigger.org/
This is the only software license you need
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>>106732913
>>106732982
I get the point you faggot are trying to make, but why do people still fall for these obvious bait threads?

>>106732994
based Francis pwned the soul-less corporate thieves
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>>106736681
is there any project that uses it license and is somehow popular? genuinely asking
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>>106736681

this license is effectively attaching poison to your computer software.
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>>106736704
That's kind of the entire point
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>>106736704
Poison to corpos that is.
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>>106736740
yes, no company can integrate a NIGGER+ licensed software.

it is a legal nightmare, as we discuss AGPL does, and on top of that, opens a whole Public Relations new nightmare.
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>>106736690
Popular on the onions maybe but clearnet hosting is subjected to the bullshit normalfags and corpos like to do so anything with +NIGGER is a nonstarter
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>>106736808
What are you talking about, the +NIGGER main website is clearnet. You will get banned from github sure, but I doubt most normal domain registrars will give a single shit.
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mit is for cucks gpl is for bulls
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>>106736837
>the +NIGGER main website is clearnet.
Sure, and this site is too. My point is that “popular” means normgroids use it and normgroids by definition are the type that’s filtered by the +NIGGER license in the first place
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>>106736704
Poison that only affects bad people.
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>>106736911
Good work, you understand the point of the license.
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>>106736867
copyright closed source license is for bulls
mit and gpl are both cucks
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>>106736788
so it's working as intended then
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>>106736939
an understander
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There is this retard named LunarJetman/Zogatribe who always comes into the #qt channel on libera IRC, constantly shitting on Qt while trying to shill his half-baked custom "neoGFX" GUI framework that still hasn't had a single release after 10 years.
The worst part? His library is GPL, meaning almost nobody will use it, even if it *was* good.
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>>106737149
>Qt licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public License (LGPL) version 3 is appropriate for the development of Qt applications provided you can comply with the terms and conditions of the GNU LGPL version 3 (or GNU GPL version 3).
https://doc.qt.io/qt-6/licensing.html
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>>106732982
>>106733010
A beard with white male
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>>106732913
>No one might be able to use your code
Good, fuck multi billion dollar corporations stealing my code and not contributing back
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>>106736275
>trannies are by definition mentally ill
Technically they're two times mentally ill because they're usually autistic men who get groomed into trooning out.
If doctors asked two times these kids if they're sure and properly told them how bad their body would be destroyed, most of them wouldn't do it, since they're not actually suffering from gender dysphoria.
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>>106733849
>Non compete clause
Even in the commie canada they're allowed to put this shit in contracts, this wouldn't have flown in the EU, you can't just make people not be able to work in the same field they're in, literally who the hell do they think they are to do this?
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>>106738384
In Canada non-compete clauses can be nullified if a court finds the clause unreasonable, and post-employment non-compete clauses are virtually all null and void by default according to the law. I can almost guarantee the clause in that post is not legally binding if he is working in a different country.
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>>106738458
So this stupid HR ladie admitted to committing a crime on the internet?
I never expected much from the HR psychopats, but holy shit, this is on another level of retardation.
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>>106736569
This. It is clear that real freedom is winning, and GPL trannies are somehow mad about this.
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>>106736985
Yes.
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>>106737149
>His library is GPL, meaning almost nobody will use it, even if it *was* good.
No sane person would release GPL shit in 2k25 if they wanted people to use it.
And AGPL and SSPL are more like
>this is practically proprietary commercial product. but we show you the source code but you can't actually modify it, teehee, aren't we awesome, contributing to le open sores :^)
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>>106732913
Agree.
That's why I only use the +NIGGER License.
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>>106738722
and if you want to make anything similar you can't actually look at it either
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>>106738734
>>106738722
You also aren't allowed to run it unmodified in for certain purposes
Peak freedom
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>>106735769
every normie on windows that googles "how to X on windows" happens to get a hit to just such things regularly
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>>106738722
Why wouldn’t you close source your code if you want no one to use it? The hope for free labor?
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>>106735769
Nothing, people probably did exactly that and got away with it because there's no way to prove it.
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>>106738963
Calling your product open source gives it more publicity. People automatically assume it's free as in freedom (it doesn't help that trannies uniornically believe this). Just look at fucking mongodb and all the similar projects.
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>>106733284
>>106734148
>>106734623
>t. gplchuds seething
BSD is real freedom. BSD is the reason why Apple is so successful while gahnoo loonix is some meme hobo hippie toejam eater toyOS.
Enjoy your dead stallmanazi cancer license while it last. The future is permissive non-gpled code.
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>>106739176
Sneed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oLuJSFZKEs
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>>106739176
>BSD is the reason why Apple is so successful
My point exactly? The real comparison is between Linux and actual BSD kernels. Want to tell me which one is more popular?
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>>106733231
You can arrange a different license for the Linux kernel Shlomo?
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>>106732982
>Are you a white bearded male who hates minorities?
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>>106739487
use case for minorities?
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>>106738521
She is unaware that some of the terms of his employment contract are not legally enforceable, and that if the company decided to file a civil suit the judge would probably throw the case out immediately because non-compete clauses don't apply to international work.
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>I want other hobbyists to use my code and potentially learn from it
>Don't want companies stealing my work and not giving back
Why is this a difficult concept for people to understand? That's why I use GPL/AGPL for every project.
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>>106739584
Hobbyists have spoken, they don't want to involve themselves in IP law and understand that nobody will use their software if it's not permissively licensed, also a lot of open source up until recently (pre-tech crash) were looking to use FOSS as a springboard to sell out and score a cushy tech job with their permissively licensed trash
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>>106732913
I've made over 4 million dollars over the past 2 years by taking MIT licensed software, packaging it with .NET MAUI and selling it to business customers with elaborate presentations and sales pitches.
Big tech doesn't want you to know this is possible.
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>>106732988
Shalom
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>>106740038
Mega chad if true.
That's why I don't put any of my good code on public repos.
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>>106732913
and they call themselves "openAI"
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>>106739032
It's extraordinarily easy to just scan a binary for strings or other patterns that match to common GPL libraries
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It's insane how many people in this thread (including alleged gpl supporters) seem to be clueless about how gpl is adversarial by design, as that's the point of the license. It's a political activism license where the point is to abuse copyright law to make it harder for corps to profit from your code. You can complain but this is pretty much the whole reason the professional open source ecosystem exists and isn't a joke.
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>>106739491
what makes you think diversity is a metric?
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>>106737626
LGPL (not regular GPL) is what makes Qt usable. It means you can ship proprietary programs with Qt in it without having to give away any source. a plain GPL UI framework forces your entire project to become GPL.
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>>106740604
https://www.qt.io/licensing/open-source-lgpl-obligations
>The following requirements should be fulfilled when, for example, creating an application or a device with Qt using the LGPL:
>Complete corresponding source code of the library used with the application or the device built using LGPL, including all modifications to the library, should be delivered with the application (or alternatively provide a written offer with instructions on how to get the source code). It should be noted that the complete corresponding source code has to be delivered even if the library has not been modified at all.
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>>106740703
Yes you provide a link to the source code of Qt, and the rest of your app stays proprietary. No problem.
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>>106739742
GPL is pretty cut and dry on what is acceptable and what isn't, the FSF even provides a page explaining the license in laymens terms. If you're a hobbyist and you can't understand it you're ngmi.
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>>106733539
>I'm white
shalom
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>>106739742
>understand that nobody will use their software if it's not permissively licensed,
users do not care how software is licenced. they download it, they use it. it just does not matter.
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>>106740703

> Create application layer
> Create a separate UI layer from said application layer. Make sure logical and functional decoupling is implemented.
> Open source UI layer separately.
> Keep application layer closed source™

Hell even a retard can figure this out.
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>>106734389
>it forces anyone who uses my work to open source all their shit.
yes that's the point
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>>106732994
legend
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>>106740900
it's not about the end user, it's about people (or corpos) wanting to use the code for their locked down proprietary garbage
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>>106738284
Yes I know, most trannies don't have gender dysphoria because there's no way this many people suddenly have it, it's way too uncommon.
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>>106736569
> FOSS = Free Open Source Software = GPL
> OSS = Open Source Software = MIT/BSD
You don't know what you're talking about.
If GPL is dying, it's because of dirty politics (Drew Devault) and HN toadies who want to look good by submitting to their corporate masters, while praying for a VC angel investor to swoop in and make it rain dollar bills because, at heart, they are like pole dancers.
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>>106732913
gpl is a great license if you want to prevent leeching. on the other hand, if you're a cuck, there's always bsd and equivalent.
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>>106742295
How is gpl great if corpo fags can take your tools as they are and get an army of pajeets to use them to drive you out of your own industry?
At least do sspl
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>>106732913
What are you upset about?
You don't have to use it personally,
But it's a useful license for preventing corps from charging money for a software that ought to be free.

Of course if this is just bait, bravo.
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>>106733110
As someone who worked in an office setting for the last two years...
Not only can I believe this story, but frankly I'm inclined to believe there was even more drama that simply wasn't mentioned for brevity's sake in this tale.
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>>106733212
Ah but you see.

The company thinks it's of value.
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MIT
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>>106733176
Until a corp takes your free unlicenced code, patents it and claims they invented it, then close the source.
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>>106733533
Brother most of us have been demanding the files be released no matter who sat in the white house.

The Trumby wants everyone to believe otherwise to make the Epstein problem into a political issue (it isn't).
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>>106736569
>GPL is communism
and that's a good thing
production for use, not production for exchange. Stops corps from exploiting your work.
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>>106732913
noo not the heckin poor megacorps unwilling to use my free sòyftware
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>>106732913
I use AGPL3 because I hate corpocucks. It's a shame that it also affects individuals.
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>>106734978
>It harms companies
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>>106736257
GPL is only controversial to people who want to make money off of the GPLicenced code or program.
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>>106736511
>Muh munny
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>>106736569
A thin argument with no proof.
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>>106738235
This.

Corpos can get fucked, if I made it for free, it's staying free.
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>>106732982
WTF I love GPL now!
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>>106739176
Brother...
Do you not realize that this proves the point?

>Apple made billions off of the BSD code and it basically stayed in the dust, used by Niche hobbyists

Meanwhile

>Linux/GNU projects flourish in FOSS communities, hundreds of distros, with dozens in active development, and a number (like SteamOS and Mint) are gaining traction with more normal folk.
For free.

BSD got used and cucked by a Megacorp and billionaires.
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>>106740038
Good for you (legitimately),
But that's why I prefer GPL.
Someone like you (no disrespect) wouldn't be able to do that with GPL tech.

Free should stay free.
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>>106740369
Nono, that's why we like it.

Fuck corps.
Free should mean free as in freedom.
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>>106742419
What do you mean by this?
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>>106740369
It makes it harder for people and small companies without the means or the resources to host enterprise level servers. jewgle, jewbook, etc are unimpeded from using gpl licenced code and altering it behind closed doors so long as it's hosted and not on any users' drives
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>>106742715
>Getting cucked
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>>106742896
we've said this many times itt and the retards just don't get it
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>>106742896
This hypothetical doesn't even make sense. The difficulty in hosting an "enterprise level server" has nothing to do with open source software licensing. The server is going to be just as expensive to maintain if the software is MIT instead of GPL.
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>>106742896
you're accusing megacorps of using GPL code with no proof when megacorps already have more developers writing their own code to do the same or better than what you think they steal
mom and pop can't compete against Google anyway, your comparison is moot
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>cry about licenses
lol
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>>106732994
Based Francis, he sounds French
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>>106734389
>it forces anyone who uses my work to open source all their shit.
Thats the point retard
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>>106733539
>(((The Metro)))
Lmao. This newspaper is literally given out for free on the buses and is only ever used to do crosswords on the way to work.
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>>106742919
>hypothetical
it actually happens>"enterprise level server" has nothing to do with open source software licensing.
it does when the licence permits changes on your own hardware, it's a loophole exploited by corpos. because servers are expensive, smaller companies can't handle the traffic to serve users the gpl code

>you're accusing megacorps of using GPL code with no proof
they would gladly use free and cheap labor, this is why Indian slave caste exists in the industry
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I finally got my MIT licence
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>>106743084
>smaller companies can't handle the traffic to serve users the gpl code
what the fuck are you even talking about. you don't have to serve user gpl code
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>>106742592
BSD Cucks welcome corpos like Sony doing just that.
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>>106732982
thanks for the guide! i will now use GPL-3 everywhere
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>>106732913
hey NIGGER OP, let me introduce you to some of the most financially successful FREE SOFTWARE projects:
Linux, JUCE, Qt
they all use GPL or AGPL
now go ahead, show me your financially successful MIT-licensed project. i'll wait
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>>106741839
MIT and BSD are FOSS. The difference between them and GPL is that GPL is copyleft but they are not.
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>>106732913
BSD is for Freedom. GPL is about making butthurt commies feel like they are the ones in control now.
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>>106743126
you don't but if you want to make it proprietary you must
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>>106743266
what? any company's shitty web hosted internal CRUD app licensed under gpl has no obligation to distribute source code.
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>>106743255
shalom
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>>106734038
Nobody is forcing you to release your source code at all.
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>>106732994
holy based
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>>106732994
>what legal actions can i take to prevent someone from disclosing that we've been doing illegal things?
it's funny every time i read it
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>>106732994
heh
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>>106732913
> I write code
> "Hey I dont want corpos to use this without sharing their changes"
> "It'd be fun if you could also share your changes back to everyone too"
Microsoft et al have been trying to kill FOSS for 30 years. COc(K)s, insane moderation and SJWs in Free Software is part of the attempt to destabilise the communities that create free and open software. Going after the GPL is the cherry on top of the cake of this faggotry
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I'm currently using the zlib license for emulator. Seems be good enough for me.
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the reason why you would bitch and moan about a gpl license is because something of value is locked behind it.

if you're upset that you can take something of value to generate value for yourself without giving back the value you took in the first place you're a jew. simple as
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>corpojeets won't use your code for their orwellian surveillanceslop
what's the downside?
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>>106732982
I do hate minorities. I'm white too.
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>>106732982
No
>Are you a white bearded male?
Yes
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>>106747748
based (only a small part of my beard is white hairs, but i'm working on it)
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>>106732913
GPL is the only reason companies actually contribute to linux so linux does not end up like BSD.

I like BSD but they are still behind on a lot of things.
fucking trannies want to ruin linux, that much is clear.

all the big corpos literally work for Linux by providing code for the kernel. because they are nice? no! because they have to!
if they didn't have to it'd be the same situation like with BSDcucks: a dying OS that is kept afloat by very few people (compared to Linux which is world wide and on all devices you can think of and has the best hardware support of any OS in existence.)

trannies want to ruin Linux. beware. take heed. its a corpo take over attempt.
dont fall for the BSDcuck license.

>>106733157
gpl ensures that the free labor is reciprocated with labor.
its fucking genius.
the only one's who hate it are corpos.


everyone who didn't start using linux last week knows the importance of GPL.
GPLv2 is a good middle ground.
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>>106745548
you know the best thing?

the fact that they are finally showing their true intentions.
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>>106740323
>strings
change them
>patterns
no its not, plus patterns are not something you can copyright (if this world is sane at least)
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>>106745548
the GPL is honestly probably the only reason we still have free software
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>>106732913
Hail stallman, death to cuck licenserz
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>>106748315
my sides are in orbit
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>>106748184
>plus patterns are not something you can copyright
Yes they are nigga
If you can provide evidence the patterns were generated by source code that they don't have a license to use, they can get in trouble.
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>>106748315
Fuckin kek. This image alone has sold me on GPL.
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Not once have I checked the loicense conditions of any code or library I've used and I never will. If you make your code available its mine to molest as much as I like.
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>>106748794
That's fine, GPL doesn't care as long as you don't try to sell it.

In fact, it encourages fucking around with it and forking it.
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>>106733460
>AGPLv3+NIGGER+Epstein
>All copies of this program must contain a copy of the license, the word NIGGER, and an acknowledgement that Trump went to Epstein's island dozens of times to rape children
/thread

Thanks Mr. Stallman!
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>>106732913
GPL should be the only license. 19th and 20th century Copyright has no place in civilized society that is meant to continue for more than a few decades.
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>>106745548
>Going after the GPL is the cherry on top of the cake of this faggotry
based

long live GPL, Stallman is my messiah!
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the gpl is one of the most subversive, the most virulent and simply the most ingenious socio-technological devices ever conceived.
it is not only a license. it is the next step in the evolution of licenses. its a highly advanced meta-license.
it is like a license with a built in program that doesn't need a computer to execute.
it is a soft-cybernetic device which "boots" as soon as someone copies and modifies gpl code.
the process is that of a standard cybernetic feedback loop.

stallman is a real license philosopher.
this is not something that some simple lawyer could come up with. it requires serious out-of-the-box thinking.

like playing a chess game against a highly advanced opponent (corpos) and more or less integrating the production output of those corpos into your software project.

stallman deserves a fucking nobel prize at this point.
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as productive value is integrated back into the project the project constantly becomes more and more valuable.

the amount of man hours is multiplied giga-fold which only attracts more and more people and companies to contribute because they also get a piece of the action which saves them a bunch of work.

people who refuse the superiority of this process are either braindead or have an active interest in undermining such a thing for money. paid corpo shills.



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