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>>106736757
ANCHOR:
>/adt/ pixiv:
BakerAnon: https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/110320313 (suspended sob)
Nekotwins: https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/93453238
*not found* https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/134385090
RSetsuu: https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/91156181
tamzaiy: https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/38224130
匂い: https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/76374114
Otto: https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/106407853
owphoenix: https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/1661492
https://rentry.org/foxlolianon
cornholioanon: https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/1035594

*Anchor your Pixiv and CivitAI here to add it in the next thread.

>/adt/ CivitAI
https://civitai.com/user/Nyan666:
https://civitai.com/models/1922023/obmirsak

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An old gen

How are you doing, /adt/?

>>106738441
Tired as fuck due to the back and forth and tedious inpainting of a single tattoo (see previous thread). I checked out the perspective tool on GIMP and didn't see anything akin to automating the right dimensions, so I'm not looking forward to having to work that thing manually if/when the time comes.

>>106738551
Sucks you're stuck with Gimp. What UI are you running? I don't think any of the UIs really thought about inpainting, they just don't care enough and see us all as sloppers anyway

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I made a quick Shooper's guide (needs more experimenting and research on what certain UIs can do, still don't fully get some aspects of InvokeAI for example and don't know Krita and Swarm completely). If you have any info that could help me out I'd appreciate it

>>106738703
To be fair, I've been blindly genning slop all last week as a sort of stress relief. Failing that, I want to see what the LoRAs WON'T do when prompted. Kinda wild what I can get away with so far, and depending on the LoRA it even matches the source material's general looks. Oh, and I also have Paint.NET but many here seem to press on using GIMP. OS is Windows 10 and the WebUI is Forge. No Re or Neo, just Forge.

>>106738368
If she is the same from >>106724320, I want you to know that I'm having tantric sex with her in my imagination and there's nothing you can do to stop me.

>>106738855
For inpainting, Forge seems complicated even though a lot of nonies seem to use it.
The main issue is with the autonatic mask padding and having to inpaint when the mask hits the image border or corner getting way more fucked up. The it's important to tell the AI what context to focus on and pay attention to.Personal experience: inpainting feet at image edges is 5x harder and almost always ends up needing manual fixes compared to when feet are near the center.

>>106739124
>The it's important to tell the AI what context to focus on and pay attention to.
Like prompts? It always confuses me on whether or not the prompts should remain as is when doing simple fixes (fingers/hands) or edits (accessories) or outright removed except for the quality prompts. And inpainting a whole ass character? How does that work? I repeat myself but weeks ago someone here shared a gif or whatever of someone doing exactly that. Some OL giving a blowjob in the background, I think.

>>106739124
The only way I've managed to fix limbs that get cut off at image edges is to misserably drawing it myself, but it works better than trying to mess with mask padding and denoise settings gacha.

>>106738731
Can you add a column for "Ease of ControlNet Integration" or type of "ControlNets?" That's the make or break for me when doing complex scenes.

comfy is the dark souls of AI image diffusion

>>106739228
I mean more like: Outpainting, or moving the image, telling and choosing what context to show the AI, but I think that you can't do that on Forge, only outpainting with an script, right?

>>106739146
>>106739291
>file.png anon
you have to make a pixiv with that, would be cute and funny

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>>106739311
I used to have a pixiv but I deleted it cause uploading and number chasing was a hassle. I just do it for the love of the game.

>>106739401
>number chasing
To what end? At least Civitai has that buzz nonsense as fuel for onsite LoRA training.

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>>106739466
Mostly trying to figure out what girls got views and constantly checking in to see how my gens are doing. Got exhausting after some time so I gave it up. I'd upload stuff to aibooru as well but I fell off the wagon on that too, it's just more fun posting gens on the chan.

>>106739534
>not posting girls you know won't get views because there's a lack of content of them and the girls deserve more content
ngmi

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>>106739228
>some OL
You mean Teto?

>>106739534
I get it, you were doing it competitively. That's a drag. I've seen other anons start AI art as a hobby, then take commissions and end up hating it. Such a waste.

>>106739534
That constant need to read the room and chase what's popular instead of doing your own thing is exhausting. That sucks, man. Hope you can get back to making stuff that's personal to you, though I know it's tough since we all want people to see and engage with our work.

Best wishes to your art, nonie <3

>>106740179
Yeah I'd never do commissions. I ain't wasting my time genning some girl I don't even like. Fuck that shit.

>>106740090
Those who are stopped by that are not worthy of AI Jesus.

>>106740179
Same for those who monetize. Doubt the products even feature advanced concepts and techniques seldom seen here.

>>106740173
Yes, that's the one! Fucking hell, I assume it took days and lots of GIMP/Photoshop backending?

>>106740204
>Fucking hell, I assume it took days and lots of GIMP/Photoshop backending?
The guy who made it might still post in /lmg/ so you could ask there if you're curious.

I've posted gens to Pixiv of a girl who has only appeared in two doujins and had a single image of her on Pixiv.
IDGAF. I gen what I want to gen and post what I want to post.

Commissions are for people who want to turn a stress relief hobby into wage slavery. Once you get into "customer is always right" territory, you’re just drawing for someone else’s dopamine hit instead of your own.

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Is this okay, or will people wonder if there 's a create under her feet?

>>106740296
As a foot fag I demand to see her cute feet!

>>106740277
How the fuck is that enough material to make a LoRA?

>>106740310
Haha believe it or not there was a LORA of her on Civitai, and it worked.
You don't actually need that many images to make a LORA.

Daily reminder that slop isn’t effortless. Slop takes WORK. The AI always fights you, backgrounds always break, tags always bleed.
Respect your local sloppers, they bleed for their 1girls

>>106740328
Haha just don't gen backgrounds. Saves so much inpainting time.
Most people are just looking at the girl anyways.

>>106740321
Yet a nifty guide linked here some threads back proclaim that...well it did say that quality surpercedes quantity but the dataset has to be very good. Clear, no obstructions, crop if need be, and so on.

>>106740333
>Haha just don't gen backgrounds. Saves so much inpainting time.
I find "simple background, white background" much too lazy even for me. Unless you can even inpaint a whole ass background. That there's an option to invert the mask implies as such.

Anyone else feel like comfy is more fun because it’s overcomplicated? It triggers that autism itch of wiring like a mad scientist. Forge is plug and play but it feels soulless after a while.

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>>106740296
*if there's a crate under

>>106740333
This. People come here to goon, not to clap for portfolio tier work.

>>106740372
Based. Comfy is like LEGO for adults.

>>106740363
If a background is necessary to tell a story with the gen, then gen a background.
If it's not, then genning the background is pointless and unnecessary.
Sometimes you want to tell a story with a gen. Sometimes you just want to gen a cute girl, possibly in an erotic outfit/pose.

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mueheheheeee ;3

>>106740406
Now do Ultros and Terra.

>>106740363
unless you're actually intentionally building a scene with actual purpose then having a background will only detract from whatever it is you're doing.
there's a reason why 1girl, white background is probably the highest combined tag occurrence on *booru.

>>106740402
>>If a background is necessary to tell a story with the gen, then gen a background.
And then inpaint the character? Big issue with "telling a story" is the background changes every prompt short of img2img. Many such cases on Civitai.

>don't waste time in backgrounds it’s just slop bro
Yeah but it’s MY slop!

>>106740425
Also you simplyfy the task to SDXL and it's not thinking in 100 different things

Can chroma or any other "modern" model be wrangled into following an artist style or am I pretty much stuck with illust tunes?

>>106740376
Ehemmm where are her feet bro?

>>106739228
Inpaint is eternal, you think you’re free after fixing the hands, then the background eats the hair, then the chair fuses with her thigh, then the thigh doesnt have the same lighting angle as her arm and so on.

>>106740513
Eternal SDXL hobby, no matter the Vram of you loke anien ypu will die with SDXL

Eternal inpaint, eternal SDXL general

Anonies remember: don’t inpaint at full res
downscale to your model res> fix > upscale.

>>106740590
Yes, I was told this many times during the tattoo fiasco. I'm genuinely surprised the resolution of everything else stayed the same. I assumed the tattoo at least would get squished.

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>>106740309
>>106740518

>>106740642
>not her toes
Anon, please i need to goon

>>106740615
>tattoo fiasco.
Nyooooo are you "that" anon the anon of the skinny thighs girl? Sorry to hear about the tatoo fiasco :(

>>106740642
nice, always prefered the top of the feet to the soles

>>106740642
>clean lines and defined lines
This is NAI?

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>>106738977
Oh, they are different characters (although related, i'll let you guess how)

>>106740689
Imapled by BBDC?Big Black dragon cock?

Message for the anon writing with spelling mistakes, is it because your other hand is busy? Be sincere :3

>>106740546
Did you inpaint a manga page?

>>106740718
true edging pros are able to write one handed without typos

>>106740427
If you don't want to gen the girl and the background simultaneously, it's probably better to gen the girl and background separate, gen the girl with a simple white background that's easily removed, then paste the girl onto the background in an image editor and inpaint over her edges to make the paste seamless. Maybe do a low to moderate denoise over the whole girl if her lighting doesn't mesh well with the background. Definitely use inpaint to give her a shadow.

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>>106740736
the original manga generation was made with banana, here's the original output before I tried fixing the side panels. there wasn't any reference image used at all

>>106740590
>Anonies remember: don’t inpaint at full res
Inpainting is fine at full res if you keep inpainting to masked only.
Some big changes should definitely be inpainted prior to upscaling, though, for sure.

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>>106740659

>106740684
shut up

>>106740797
>disgusted look and pantyshot
hoooooooot

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>>106740700
Well...

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Comparative between the last Hassaku 3.1 update, WAI 15, One obsession and old Hassaku 3.0 handling muliple girls

>>106740841
Nooo fuck! Why do people who create cute girls with nice designs give them a boyfriend? They won't let me fantasize, now I feel cucked

>>106740797
>not Greek toes
>not wrinkled
OK based.
You have no idea how much time I've spent shooping wrinkles out. Fucking models absolutely refuse to not gen them, even with wrinkled_skin in negatives.

>>106738368
Catbox?

>>106740797
>disgusted face, soles, panties
the lords prayer of anime gooning

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>>106740923
If that's any consolation to you, their snakefu daughter from the first pic is single
But i usually create pairings.

Can I post lewd stuff as long as I put it in a catbox?

>>106740781
Ciberpunk ToT

>>106740951
For me, it's a smug face over a disgusted one, but soles and pantsu are definitely a classic combo.

>>106740615
Did you try blending the tattoo layer at 20-50% transparency and let the AI intuitively fill the rest, or did you slop it at 100% opacity like bad photoshop? You gotta whisper to the AI when you want to do that kind of thing.

>>106740858
cute, CUTE!
>>106740789
byeee

>>106739401
Pixiv is basically hopeless if you're doing original characters and not chasing any trends (be it lolishit, r34, etc).
I still upload there once per week but it's funny when a hastily cobbled together sloppa has ten times the views of a higher quality picture just because it has a goblin girl with large tits on it.

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canonical
heh...

>>106739401
Then you wouldn't have deleted it.

>>106741122
If you build up followers by doing popular girls first you can get lots of views/bookmarks of your OC. I know this because my OC ended up being way more popular than I expected.

>you could have been literally anything, and you CHOSE to be uggy

>>106741490
Your characters remind me of the Claymore manga, do you use any lora or tag thinking about that kind of style?

>>106741525
I think he uses Nomura/parasite eve style

>>106741525
>>106741546
Yep I use nomura tetsuya as the artist tag for these ones

this general is VERY yucky and bisgusting

>>106741556
>>106741525
Thanks nonies!

>>106741212
Yeah its like music, you have to do cool covers to let the people hear your OC songs

>>106740797
'oomed
nice soles btw

>>106741212
It's true, but it's also soul crushing. I want to draw my 90s anime girl OC, Instead, I have to gen x variations of a slop 1girl to get three followers who might see my passion project.

>>106740797
>>106740659
>>106740951
The eternal soles vs tops of feet debate, i'm on team soles, but only if they're smooth. The second I see a single wrinkle it's straight to the inpaint tab

>>106741817
also a pristine, smooth sole is synonim of purity and grace

>>106741817
Good poll idea

>>106740781
Catbox?

>>106741817
>>106741848
completely smooth is too anime, at the same wrinkles are 3dpd nasty

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>>106740923
>now I feel cucked
But you never had a girlfriend/wife in the first place, you butt hurt silly boy! ;p

>>106741722
It's YOU who's yucky, BUSTER! :3

>>106741983
>>106741983
>you never had a girlfriend/wife in the first place,
nop, and no real girl would love me, thats why i lust to 2d girls

>>106741446
Would coom to this, never coomed to high contrast picture

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>>106742077
Aww, that's sad! :(

>>106741817
Both degenerates, as a true connoisseur, Im team ankles, its about the smooth curve, the delicate transition between leg and feet...

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Alright lads,I'm tapping out for the night. Tags are starting to blur together. Keep the good fight against lolis, we must love our hags. Have a good Milf Monday!

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>>106742282
Night nonie, hope you have sweet latent dreams :3

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>>106742282
sleep forever ;3

>>106741956
https://files.catbox.moe/h559qj.png

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>>106741788
You can do it if I can, anon. I believe in you.

>>106741817
>The second I see a single wrinkle it's straight to the inpaint tab
BASED
>>106741978
>too anime
Uh, look where you are nigga.

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>>106741983
>2025
>gif

>>106742597
I stand by what I said.

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>too anime

>>106742116
10/10 ending

>>106735236
got a large pic of that girl in the top left?

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>>106742551
Thank you.

>>106742116
LOL. Well done, mister.

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>>106742603
>WebMs vs GIFs
>in the year 2025
I like both of them! :3

>>106742727
OK, but is Manami a shit?

>>106742745
Yes! c:

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>>106742753
Correct!
Aight, you're cool in my book. I'll even post a .gif for you since you like them.

>>106742116
It's so unfathomably peak

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>>106740376
(final)

>>106740173
That's really funny with the way it's animated telling the story of why she's so depressed.

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Today, I learned that AI can't do mirrors for shit (on its own; for all I know the golden ratio of denoise/blur/padding/prompts that may or may not require some vague sketch in GIMP/Paint.NET can fix this). White background is starting to sound like a good idea but who the fuck brushes their teeth in the void?

>>106743427
I like this image beyond words.

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recently my pc just randomly chooses to gen shit like picrel and it's fucking scary
it happens rarely and can be fixed with a quick restart so nothing to worry about

>>106742921
>>106742633
>>106742700
ty o/ Wan 2.2 is the shit :3

>>106742681
They are pic demos on civitai, got to the link and downlaod it

>>106742720
CUUUUUUUUTE love the background, so romantic <3

>>106743812
I have the same problem and was the checkpoint bad connected in Comfy also vpred when esp or vice vers

>>106743443
If you're looking for comfort, NAI can't do mirrors either.

>>106743443
AI can't do mirrors for shit, the AI either:

1. Makes the reflection a completely different person
2. Makes the reflection empty dracula tier
3. Ignores the mirror entirely and generate the wall behind it

>>106743812
That sounds like a sampler scheduler issue.Were you using DPM++ 4M SDE without Karras? That one sometimes goes the same way when you forgot to put that schedule

>>106744117
Don't forget the when the mirror shows the back of her head. I've had some luck with ControlNet if there is an existig anime mirror scene

SDXL has no object permanence or understanding of reflections.

>>106743736
RAPE AND IMPREGNATE ToT

>>106744174
what models do? openai's?

>>106740929
>>106742086
>>106743427
this >>106744206

>>106744129
nah im using DPM++ 2M SDE Automatic
is this even a good sampler scheduler to begin with?

>>106744213
Good and bad news, neither Google Image Gen Ultra nor Open AI can do this.

>>106744229
NTA but always try to use karras with any DPM sampler

>>106744229
Also, if you're getting those burned gens, try dropping your CFG scale a bit. Sometimes high CFG makes DPM samplers freak out.

>>106744233
So we're all in the same boat,then. Good to know it's not a skill issue but a AI brainlet moment.

>>106744229
>is this even a good sampler scheduler to begin with?
For anime? you're probably getting better results with Euler A and normal

>>106743443
Make her a vampire and call it a day

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>>106744329
funny because i use that for my second pass after highres fix
also, what makes Euler A Normal good with anime?

>>106744363
When I said that, I meant for the initial composition pass. I use DPMs for second passes, adetailer, or inpainting, but for first passes Euler a gives less stiff, more organic results. I read somewhere that DPMs take smaller steps in samplings catching fine details like hands and eyes better, but the results look stiffer while Euler a skips some details but nails the overall inage composition. DPM works great for inpainting objects or adding background detail though because of the sharpness.

>>106744467
i see. seems like i've been doing it backwards all along
much appreciated

you guys really act bisgustin in here don't ya?

>>106744233
You are telling me the multi billion dollar corps cant do what my 500$ GPU can? Based. Eternal SDXL general.

>>106741978
>>106741848
The perfect sole has a subtle,soft curve. No wrinkles, no definition. Just pure, smooth, goonable surface area. It's a sole I'm willing to die for by being stepped on.

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white thighhighs, foot focus, from below.
My holy trinity. The tag that launched a thousand cooms.

>>106745098
very erotic, footjob friendly

>>106745155
Yes, also if the gen and the seeds gods smile at me and give me a a small pic of her armpits at the same time, I instantly coom,

>>106745183
Conceptualize the smell of between her toes, under boob and armpits, all at the same time hnnnnnnngg

>>106743937
What was your process for making a longer vid? Using start and end frame?

>>106745098
wtf is she putting her foot in

>>106746150
In a boot, imagionationlet

>>106746433
You see, I figured pantyhose wouldn't be right, she already has white legwear, let alone wear pantyhose *over* that.
And then shoving her foot into your ass would be one big shitpost

>>106744535
No, do whatever you want, this is gacha and placebo effect

>>106740958
Oh, well... when you say snake fu, do you mean the actual snake in the picture or the girl next to it?
>>106738368

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I may start posting my OCs here when it's worksafe.

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Between mirror complications and earlier chatter about "1girl, no background whatsoever", I decided to run a small experiment. First I gen the 1girl and some menial action, and then img2img the appropriate background/setting at 0.7 denoise.

Either I'm missing something, the character LoRA is fucking up the background somehow, GIMP is needed (yet again; may as well be a "real" artist at this rate) or the lot of you are liars. I'm now considering inpainting the bathroom piece by piece (God help me if that entails rough sketching the basic amenities) but fuck me if that'd actually work.

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>>106746565
They are one being. She's a shapeshifter and can spawn them from her body, Messmer style.

>>106746636
Oh, alright....*sniff*whatever, can't change it

>>106746598
Mmm I don't understand what you did? White background first and then add background?

>>106746598
you could try using the character as a controlnet instead of doing img2img. or maybe mask the character and do inpaint not masked with the latent noise option and a 0.8+ denoise

>>106746833
Basically.

>1girl, Kirara Haruno, brown_hair, long_hair, messy hair, BREAK boyshort panties, underwear, loose pink tank top, shirt, midriff peek, small breasts,
BREAK simple background, white background, from above, BREAK masterpiece, best quality, source_anime,official art,perfect_anatomy,1990s_\(style\),retro_artstyle, <lora:Kirara Haruno - Matchless Raijin-Oh:1>

After a 1.5x hires.fix I moved it to img2img and replaced "simple background, white background" with "detailed background, morning, indoors, bathroom, sink in foreground, bathtub," though the bit about the sink being in the foreground may be useless because WAI may not understand natural language. I want her facing the sink with the bathtub in the background and maybe the door on either side.

>>106746857
>controlnet
I'm a dummy who couldn't even inpaint a straight-on facing crotch tattoo right (and likely still fucked up judging by >>106741055). I don't even have that set up yet.
>maybe mask the character and do inpaint not masked with the latent noise option and a 0.8+ denoise
This, I can try. I assume I should still keep the "Only Masked" option? And what of Soft Inpainting? Check or uncheck?

>>106746916
Ive never bothered with soft inpainting. since you're inpainting the whole background the only masked option wouldn't do anything.

>>106746598
> the character LoRA is fucking up the background somehow
no shit.
loras aren't "targeted" to only impact zones or things they're trained to deal with. They impact and guide the entire output. Even an in-model character tag call will impact the background due to inference bullshit.

>>106746989
Too busy masking within the lines right now but I'll test this by using my inpainting dummy later.

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Forge is in dire need of an "erase masked" button (not to be confused with the already existing "reset" button). Seems I wasn't as neat as I thought with the legs, but why's the elbow fucked up? Also, 0.88 denoise and the prompt is untouched. Background's looking vaguely 3D in spots too.

>>106747331
if the background is passable enough then at that point you could do a low (0.15 to 0.2) denoise img2img to tidy things up. might fix the elbow as well.

>>106746598
>GIMP is needed (yet again; may as well be a "real" artist at this rate
Hey, you're finally getting it.
Yes, you need real artistic skills to produce something of value and quality with AI.

>>106736757
your OPs have a severe lack of soul 2bh, do better

>>106747756
>meaningless memeword

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shoopers and real artists using ai make me angry, they raise the bar of acceptable quality and soon I'll have to start putting in effort myself instead of uploading raw outputs

>>106747810
You are unique okeaki <3 you don't need post production

>>106747331
>>106746916

idk if I'm high as fuck or just ESL but I'm not understanding shit, gonna get some air outside and read your post

>>106747877
Can you make the guy's body and hands alpha color transparent? I'm feeling cucked seeing this random dark skinned dude's arm touching Tamamo. Yeah I'm the same anon who complained last time too, you can ignore me if you want

>>106747810
>soon I'll have to start putting in effort myself instead of uploading raw outputs
you should have been doing this in the first place.
real talk: who the fuck wants to look at or see unfiltered garbage? If I wanted to do that I'd browse deviantart.
If you're just making stuff for yourself that's cool and you can keep doing that but there isn't much point in sharing it if it has no merit for anyone else. You may as well just post prompt/negative/models and seed and then anyone can just make it their own damn selves.
The only real reason to post raw output is if it's for demonstrative purposes, like showing off a model/lora/random technique shit

>>106748174
>you should have been doing this in the first place.
Tutorials on blending AI and GIMP/Photoshop together are in short supply, assuming they exist at all. Considering I yearn for AI because I lack the patience for the literal years it'd take to gain artistic skill, of course it's frustrating.

>>106747465
>might fix the elbow as well.
Nope. No change whatsoever even at 0.2 denoise.

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>>106748223
ah in that case you'll either need to inpaint it or manually fix it. for inpainting it depends on how disconnected it is from the arm as to whether you want to use original or fill mode. if its connected and just a bit off then i'd try original with about a 0.6 strength, Of course doing it manually is probably faster if you're familiar with image editing but for myself I try to use manual fixing as a last resort due to my awful artistic ability

>>106748200
get a $60 chinese pen tablet
put in effort to figure out drawing/redrawing
put in effort to learn how to train loras so you can make shit and adapt to your preferred style
use AI as a tool to shortcut a lot of anatomy/color/etc. training

the biggest hurdle for a lot of people is realizing that they can make really poor looking scribbles and large edits on lowres outputs and have them actually translate well when manually upscaling(and that you should also be doing batch upscaling on each individual image so you can pick the most ideal output and/or use others as composites if they get a specific thing more "right" than something else that got most of everything else more "right"). You can also see what the lowres is doing to the upscale outputs and go back and edit the lowres further to correct it.
and speaking of composites, using this technique is generally very easy to create image sets with small variation that's simply composited over, that just plainly looks better and is more seamless than trying to inpaint it since you manually blend in and remove bits that don't quite match the surrounding.
these are from like 2 years ago using sd1.5 but the demonstration is still relevant (jumpscare warning: not sfw since they were made for and shared on /h/)
<https://files.catbox.moe/4g7ntp.jpg>
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>>106747810
You don't need inpainting or hires fix and all that tech shit. Your gens aren't about being technically perfect, they're more expressive and creative.


Remember kids: Technique and high quality is cope for creativelets, messagelets, expressivelets.

How convenient to hide your artistic emptiness behind visual perfection and aesthetics, right? >>106748351 >>106748174

>>106747556
RAPE WITH LUST
>>106747662
rape while holding hands and whispering sweet things in her ear

>>106748418
inb4 "REDDIT SPACING REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"

>>106748351
I keep saying that if artists weren't whining 24/7 about AI, it would be a crazy cool tool for them, way more than any non artist.

>>106748290
>I try to use manual fixing as a last resort due to my awful artistic ability
I'm in the exact same boat due to that plus knowing fuck all about image editing, yet the lot in this tread sing its praises, which all but defeat the purpose of AI image generation.

>>106748456
Even jap artists are starting to become SJW-like thanks to their anti-AI slop stance lmao

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>>106748438
thank god you don't want to whisper sweet things into someone else's wives' ears, that would be bad

>>106748418
>Remember kids: Technique and high quality is cope for creativelets, messagelets, expressivelets.
that makes zero sense.
without technique you have zero actual control of the output. It's entirely down to what the machine will let you do. It's the exact opposite of what's true.

sounds like you're just trying to cope and avoid learning or doing anything to better your ability to achieve what you actually want and then waste hours of time on garbage snake oil bullshit that tries to emulate things you can just do manually.
>>106748487
majority of nips don't really care. It's only a really specific niche subset of artists that try and pretend that they're part of some """community""" that's intended to be gatekept who only produce really specific types of content(read: will only make things for a single IP and usually only to a certain group of characters within it and won't touch anything else with a 10 foot pole).

>>106748487
Hysteria won.

>>106748509
>that makes zero sense.
That's because he's just trolling.

>>106748456
>>106748487
pretty sure a lot of the non loud ones who aren't complaining all day about AI are probably testing and playing around the tools, it's just currently a social suicide for them to say so

>>106748509
A lot of them also have this "my copyright infringement good, your copyright infringement bad" mindset
>>106748528
I find it funny when jap artists who are normally anti-AI use Nano Banana to turn their art into figurine lmao
>>106748511
And a big fat F to all the jap artists who moved to Liberalsky

>>106747331
>>106748128
Ok now I get it,
you've got dogshit luck, everything you try is exactly what SDXL sucks at.
For the bathroom scene:
Get Nano Banana to gen a background with your character png on white. Problem is Nano Banana's gonna give you some off style bg with wrong colors but at least the composition works.
So take that image with your character and background, throw it in img2img, put on controlnet Lineart or Cunny to preserve the lines, put denoise to like 0.5 and generate. That forces SDXL to redraw it using your character's actual art style and colors instead of whatever random style Nano Banana came up with.

>>106748586
>And a big fat F to all the jap artists who moved to Liberalsky
I think many came back to twitter once they started being banned from anything outside of "ART OF ADULTING ADULT WITH CONSENSUAL CONSENTED CONSENT".

>>106748589
cute & scary

>>106748589
my big adult big rough tongue inside her underdeveloped child mouth

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>>106748616
>"ART OF ADULTING ADULT WITH CONSENSUAL CONSENTED CONSENT".
kek
This artist cracks me up, but it's sad too.
Like, what are you consenting to? Photographing yourself like a slut?
I mean, I could see why he would specify she consents to this, though. It's clearly an image that leaves the viewer wondering if she consents or not.
Fucking clown world.

>>106748616
honestly the bans are kind of irrelevant, twitter has started banning accounts really erratically for hebe-tier "lolicon" and toddlercon has always been a no go.
the real thing is that bsky is absolutely HORRIBLE as an art platform. It just doesn't actually serve art to users in any convenient or meaningful way so it's extremely closed off and "you have to know to know" to find artists posting to it.
It's also just a really fucking small platform with barely anyone actually using it despite how much money has been poured into trying to prop it up.to spite elon.

>>106748685
Also that artist does a lot of bondage stuff and always puts that I consent thing there and it's like... goddammit... it's hotter if she doesn't consent... you ruined it.

>>106748685
but did you ask the reflection if she consented? doesn't look like it. thats gonna be a yikes from me dawg

>>106748681
Yuck! Anon, calm down

>>106748704
Twitter is also horrible as an art platform because hashtags are the only way to do tags and no artists use them.

>>106748685
disgusting feet , WAI15 feet best feet

>>106748740
That's hand-drawn and not AI.
>WAI15 feet best feet
I don't like its tendency to draw wrinkles, but every model I've used does this.
I need to shoop out the wrinkles (GIMP resynthesizer plugin's heal selection works well for this) then inpaint over the shoop with wrinkles, wrinkled soles and wrinkled_skin in the negatives to get a nice, smooth sole.

>>106748710
>goddammit... it's hotter if she doesn't consent... you ruined it.
thankfully you can fix it, just inpaint the cringe consent shit out

>>106748783
that's basically rape

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>>106748791
It's fiction.

>>106748775
Exactly, hand drawn feet are disgusting, made by 3dpd artists thinking about real 3dpd girls.
AI feet are pure. They're created from a database of pure 2D waifu feet, no real people involved.

>>106748685
Oh yeah I know this artist, it's actually one of the less egregious ones doing that "I consent" thing. It's an evolution of "All characters are 18+" basically, and it turned into some kind of bizarre fetish among zoomers.
Probably because of them living through the whole hysteria around consent applied to literally everything even irrelevant shit.
Usually this kind of art has like a dozen comments of people praising it for being "consensual" and how "consent is sexy" and so on. I think virtue signaling like that is part of the fetish.

>>106748704
From what i read, while you can get banned in twitter for loli, shota, teen or rape stuff, it usually only happened to JP artists when they attracted too much attention from western audiences, especially younger ones. As long as it was mostly Japanese, or Asian, it was fine.
Meanwhile on bluesky you were quickly banned regardless. Maybe because it's so much smaller, it's easier for everyone to find everyone else, and harder to have insulated communities?

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>>106748791

>>106748805
>consent is sexy
I've seen this shit so many times on discord among "normie safe hentai" places
It's indeed weird

>>106748804
>They're created from a database of pure 2D waifu feet, no real people involved.
Nah. Plenty of 2D feet artists like shirow_(mha03133) use photo references, and they're in the database.
HA ha. You've been fapping to impure feet. How do you feel now?

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>>106748842
And sometimes actual anime uses video references for feet.
These are also in the database.

bridge and any "above" view of the foot > sole

>>106748804
A lot of the feet LORAs on Civitai were trained on 3DPD. And a ton of genners are using those LORAs to gen 2D.
You're a retard.

>>106748924
Very sexual

>>106748924
still sad to this day her basic image wasn't animated

I'm sure some foot artists use those silicone (usually TPE actually) feet you can buy on Amazon/eBay as references. Those are made from molds made from real feet.
I know the artist who draws Shamiko's manga uses a silicone hand as a reference for hands.

>>106748955
yaoi artists use halloween hands silicone

>>106748732
it's bad as a BROWSABLE art platform but it's still really fucking good for artist exposure. Significantly better than pixiv, which is a better art platform(though still limited to 10 tags).
bluesky doesn't manage to accomplish either of those two things, hence it's shit for artists.
>>106748805
>From what i read, while you can get banned in twitter for loli, shota, teen or rape stuff, it usually only happened to JP artists when they attracted too much attention from western audiences
it honestly seems extremely random without any consistency. I got hit at 13k followers(which is "a lot" but also really isn't) and everything I posted generally had hips and developed breasts. I also kept interaction on the platform to an absolute minimum, didn't use DM's, didn't comment or do anything other than post art with a character tagline 1-3 times a week.
I think the real issue is that there might be one or a few people on staff with a stick up their ass and if you're unlucky and they're the ones that handle a report they just won't even look beyond a glance and if they're too small then you're banned.

>>106748842
>>106748916
AI has no agenda or impure motives like struggling artists trying to get noticed by making sexual content while thinking about real Instagram models.

Thats why AI generated feet are better, they're purely based on anime character feet with no real world influence.

And yes WAI models are ultra anime finetuned, so there's no room for realism or Instagram thot datasets.

>>106748685
This feets are disgusting

>>106740797
This feets are pure

>>106748916
>feet LORAs
You snitched on yourself, slopper

>>106749014
>AI has no agenda or impure motives like struggling artists trying to get noticed by making sexual content while thinking about real Instagram models.
That's a hell of a schizo strawman, wow.
>And yes WAI models are ultra anime finetuned, so there's no room for realism or Instagram thot datasets.
There's 144 shirow_(mha03133) images in the Danbooru database. Your beloved WAI feet are "impure," schizo. Deal with it.

>>106749029
Actually the only time I use LORAs is character LORAs and even then ONLY when character/franchise tags alone are insufficient because LORAs typically degrade model stability, especially when stacked.

>>106749078
SEX with this vampire

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>>106749014
>And yes WAI models are ultra anime finetuned, so there's no room for realism or Instagram thot datasets.
Zero effort WAI 1.5 gen.
Prompt: 1girl,masterpiece,best quality,artist:shirow_(mha03133),feet,hatsune_miku,sitting on ground,full_body,white background,simple background
This is very obviously shirow_(mha03133)'s style.
shirow_(mha03133) very obviously uses photo/video references to draw feet.
Sorry, bro, WAI feet are impure, haha.
You gonna stop using WAI now? You gonna start calling WAI disgusting?

>>106749196
Fuck you...

>>106749196
nta but yeah wai is a trash slopmax model and i really wish people would stop shilling it at least on 4chan

>>106749244
WAI is SOTA anime model, what do you suggest?

>>106749212
ririko_(fhnngririko) is another artist who very clearly uses photo/video references for feet.
224 ririko_(fhnngririko) images in the Danbooru database. I'm not going to bother to do a gen in that style. I think you can grasp my point quite well by now.
>>106749244
Any Illustrious-based model is going to have this same "issue" (non-issue).

>this model sucks, it gens feet that look like feet
el oh el

>>106749244
Unfortunately they are content with the slopmix style. It's probably impossible to change their minds. Plus they refuse to put in the effort that's required for better models.

>>106749304
If only one could use artist tags with it in order to considerably alter its style.
If only.

>>106749324
Show me a WAI gen using artist tags that isn't still infected with the models inherent style. I'll even let you use LoRAs. Hint: you can't.

>>106749255
base noob
2d accelerated
there is zero useful progress for local anime and h images since last noob release
>>106749324
less considerably compared to less slopped models

>>106749341
artist:namori,lineart
Wow, that was hard.

>>106749341
it might be hard to notice this if you don't compare the outputs with other models
one could post some chibi oekaki style made with wai and say that isn't infected by any style!

>>106749360
You know anon is right which is why you didn't attach an image kek.

>>106749324
Waishit bleeds into all artist styles. It's inevitable.

>>106749374
I know I'm right. He's free to verify it if he actually cares.
Almost all of WAI's look is down to its shading. It's obviously not going to have the WAI look without shading.
Hell, just use the artist:namori tag without the lineart tag. It'll typically gen flat shading that looks nothing like the "WAI look."

>>106749360
>>106749363
>no gen posted as proof that WAI is unable to break out of its inherent style
gitgood anon learn to use less guardrailed models
>>106749402
>still no WAI gen that doesn't look like WAI
lame trolling

>>106749342
>base noob
Oh but that's Illustrious-based too, so it's IMPURE!!!!!111!!!!one!!!

if you generate a blank page with wai it wont look like wai
haters debunked

>>106749419
that's a heavy implication that WAI can actually generate "no humans, white background" and have it actually be just a white canvas.

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Prompt: 1girl,masterpiece,best quality,artist:namori,akaza_akari,yuruyuri,white background,simple background
Does this look like the "WAI style?"
Checkmate.

You now remember abyssorangemix, the slop king before wai

>>106749483
I still have pastelmix downloaded out of spite since the creator went on to try and paywall the model. think this might have been the first paid model that started as a local one.

Concessions accepted

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Nothing "WAI-ish" about this. It simply looks like lineart of Yuruyuri's real main character and best girl tied with Brat, drawn by Namori.

The drawing consented.

>>106749465
puure feet *slurp*

>what's your fetish, anon?
>feet that don't look like feet
haha

>>106749567
Oh so you just can't tell. Shame.

>>106749567
Anon even the lineart itself has the typical glossy waishit look. The model bleeds into everything.

>>106749585
Predictable, low-quality rhetoric troll response.
Many such cases. Sad!

>>106749584
anime is not faces that doesnt look like faces?

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what if we just...take all the artists using real feet references and put them in our negative prompt?

>>106749591
>glossy
Does the lineart have speculars? No?
You fucking retard.

>>106749593
You can keep coping but that won't change your skill issue

>>106749600
>disgusted look
>pantyshot and some thighs
>nice feet
good good

>>106749567
how long until you reveal that the image wasn't even made with WAI?

>>106749598
There's a difference. Heads/faces are by far the most heavily stylized part of an anime girl.
Feet that don't look even remotely like feet are just poorly-drawn and demonstrate a lack of understanding of anatomy, aside from, obviously, intentionally hyper-stylized examples like Panty & Stocking.
Like, take Nanashi for example. This is not an example of intentional stylization. Nigga just can't draw feet. It's unfortunate - Nagatoro deserves better.
I ain't judging. It's just amusing to have a fetish for poorly-drawn feet.

>>106749600
'ooming

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what a throwback

>>106749738
nyooooo

>it's bad if it looks too nice, looks too real, or looks too much like something else
These are the attitudes that ruined art and uglified our culture.
These are the attitudes responsible for abominations like the works of Picasso and Gehry.
These attitudes are why we can't have nice, beautiful things.

>>106749440
See, it can: >>106749869

>>106749414
No wonder, you don't even understand what anon is talking about.

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>>106749882
who said that was WAI?
that's noob eps 0.5
also it was (very lazily) post-processed because it's using a shitty(intentionally so) lora that can't into white backgrounds.
here's the receipt https://files.catbox.moe/0r78pv.png

>>106749983
It was just an Akari is invisible joke, m8. Don't overthink it.

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>>106750065
no I get it I'm just saying that it's not applicable in context since it wasn't made on WAI.

>>106750094
no I get it I'm just saying I didn't actually have any suspicion at all about what model was used to gen it and I just wanted to make an Akari is invisible joke.

>>106749869
>>106750094
kino

Quick question. Is there any way to make the pixels smaller? Like pixel density or something, so an image can go from 3kpx to 1,5px but still keep depth and not lose quality?

Oh nyoooooo thread bumped limit

>>106750191
I don't understand what you mean
Upscaling?

>>106750191
Yes, but I wouldn't recommend it, as image quality will degrade severely due to rotational velocidensity.

>>106750212
Nah, backwards, downscaling but without losing pixel density quality, so you can zoom in and the image doesn't get pixelated

>>106750215
nani???

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>>106748200
working demonstration since I was dumb and only realized after posting that the sleeves on >>106750094 is fucked
original lowres t2i https://files.catbox.moe/2ul8mv.png
redrawn/corrected lowres https://files.catbox.moe/1n0lvo.png (it really doesn't need to be perfect or pretty)
upscaled https://files.catbox.moe/t2l9wq.png
and image related is a composite where I just put the corrected arms on top of >>106750094 because reasons

high denoise upscaling with a low strength, early step cutoff controlnet tile is your friend. it lets you get away with and change a lot of dumb things really easily.

>>106750248
>composite
Based shooper.

>>106750248
https://pinetools.com/bulk-batch-merge-images you can use this to upload all the images in one single image, i'm too lazy to open catbox after catbox

>>106750215
The thing is I wanna upload my gens here in good quality but I feel like a showoff if I post something at 6k resolution, I'd rather keep it low-key and upload an image at 1.5k but with really good pixel density

>drawing tablet ready
>krita open
>swarm open
Time to shoop!

shoop da woop

>>106749600
SEXO

>>106750335
>6k resolution
Almost nobody has a display over 4k so there's no real point to posting images over 2160 vertical resolution.
2160 vertical resolution is a logical resolution to post gens at so those with 4k displays can view them fullscreen without any upscaling or downscaling.

>>106750291
How long does it take for one to be come a based enough shopper do get it to do what I want? I've seen stuff even on Civitai that leaves me tempting to DM these people for their secrets.

>>106750248
So all this time I was supposed to start inpainting BEFORE upscaling?! Early on I was told that more pixels meant better odds at success or something. Either way, I'm giving the inpaint dummy her room. Or a closet. Whichever's easier.

>>106750432
Haha I dunno. I've been shooping for like 20 years because I've been making 4chan memes for that long.
You don't even have to be good at shooping though because inpainting covers up your sloppy shooping. You just have to be creative with your shooping.
It's more about problem solving skills than it is shooping skill.

>>106750432
>BEFORE upscaling?
Bro, you're talking to the inpainter schizo. If you're gonna add details and fix stuff, the image needs to be at least 3k resolution and your "inpaint only masked" at 1536x upscale.

>>106750463
>Bro, you're talking to the (anonymous poster I, for some reason, think is someone I'm obsessed with) schizo
Irony.

"Can we make a list of artist tags that are good at drawing anime? Like 'misaka12003', what others are there?"

>>106750591
Just be yourself bro, you were the artist all along

>>106750432
>So all this time I was supposed to start inpainting BEFORE upscaling?!
It depends a whole lot on what you're doing and how you're doing it.
If you're doing big compositional changes then doing it at lowres is more beneficial, since in upscaling it's literally making all sorts of shit up and adding pixels that just didn't exist before, which helps make the new composition make more coherent sense since not only is it getting that shitton of pixels for free it's getting it on top of an 80% denoise pass. If you were to upscale first and then try and do a large compositional change you'll just get the denoise % value and that's it.
Inpainting at upscaled resolutions is more about fixing errors or making minor variation changes on the upscale you already like.
either way I don't inpaint. Everything I do, minus the original t2i/the upscale pass is redrawn/dealt with in photoshop manually.
>How long does it take for one to be come a based enough shopper do get it to do what I want?
I've been on photoshop for nearly 20 years at this point and have done a lot of work in digital media/design. Though nothing going on here is really all that complicated and leans a lot more on having a pen tablet and being able to draw than actual photoshop knowledge.

>>106750714
>I've been on photoshop for nearly 20 years
Anon, how old are you?