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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

Arona & Plana Edition

>News
DeepSeek releases V3.1 Terminus - A minor upgrade, no change in RP quality https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250922
Kimi K2 0905 released https://moonshotai.github.io/Kimi-K2
Deepseek V3.1 released as deepseek-chat on official API https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250821
OpenAI releases GPT-5 models, all preceding models slated for deprecation https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5
Z.ai releases GLM-4.5 https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.5

additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info.html

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots.html

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local.html | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking.html
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
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>ANCHOR
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Someone told me that openrouter has a way to do vision models that are jailbroken.
I can't seem to do it though, no matter what I do.
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>>106737827
explain what you're trying to do
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>>106737866
>The short story:
Give NSFW images to AI to visually transcribe text and everything in the image.

>The long:
I like to write erotic stories using porn, hentai, doujin, comics, etc... as a basis.
So I've been using ChatGPT and Gemini to fully transcribe the visual details of an image so I can feed it to another AI tool I use for writing, and get a story written out of it.

But obviously those are two mainstream censored AI. They still give you a shocking amount of details, but you gotta wrestle with them.
I'm trying to skip the wrestling part and just use a jailbroken AI that won't tell me "ewww that's too lewd".
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>>106737948
gpt-5 works mostly fine for me as long as it doesn't randomly decide the character is underage
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>>106737778
rape and impregnate purple and blue AI ToT
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>>106737948
>But obviously those are two mainstream censored
Just prefill Gemini
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Sonnet 4.5 or opus 4.1?
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>>106737974
For me it works, but it tries to omit as many nsfw details as it can.

>>106738016
What does that mean?
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>>106738009
>raping Plana after everything she went through
Anon...
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sonnet 4.5's reasoning summary is actually useful now
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I'm testing out sonnet 4.5 rn
It's pretty much the same shit as opus 4/4.1 idk
it doesn't have opus 3's soul but at least paypigs don't have to pay exorbitant amounts to opus 4 now?

edit: i did a few more tests while waiting for that stupid captcha thingy and i think it's actually worse than opus 4
owari da
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>>106737778
>tranime pedo OP
...ew.
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>>106738146
Stop baiting, sonnet 4.5 mogs the shit out of opus 4.x
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Is there a deepseek preset that makes it sound less formal and more "casual" like old Claude did.
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>>106738153
there's only like five trans characters in it anon, it's not tranime
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>>106738146
Opus 4 is still better I think but not that much
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>>106738146
not that i don't believe you or think you're lying, but i really do wish it was normalized to preface AI assessments with "here's what i look for when judging"
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>>106737786
Unwrapping a priceless treasure...
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Alright, give a prompt and card to try it
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Man this new sonnet is SO... meh
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I don't know why anybody would expect anything more from anthropic at this point.
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its mogging 3pus so idk
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it mogs THE SHIT outta opus 3
...at being dogshit slop
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3pus is mid and everyone knows it, im actually enjoying this new sonnet a lot more than i did 3pus back in the day
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>>106738060
but it's gentle loving rape anon!
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>>106738419
Is this the same tard who claimed that 3.5 was better than opus? I'm getting same vibes from this post
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>>106738552
nah 3.5 was a steaming pile of repetitive and bland crap only somewhat saved by its intelligence, 3.6 improved a bit but still wasnt as good
3.7 was pretty close to opus and sonnet 4 dropped the ball a bit but this is really nice
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>new thing drops
>oh this is nice
2 days later
>oh this is shit
Its gonna be same everytime btw
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>gemini is down
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>>106738624
this is sadly how contrarian shitposters think
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>>106738624
No one even gives a shit about it. I remember we had like 4-5 bakes in an hour when Opus 4 dropped. Same with 3.7.
It's DOA
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Idk gang, I'm enjoying sonnet 4.5 quite a bit more than opus 4.1. I need more testing, but claude's personality isn't leaking at the same points at least
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>>106738655
i swear to god you guys always say the same thing when a new claude model drops
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>what? youre enjoying the new model?
>I WON'T ALLOW IT!
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>>106738674
new shirt situation
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>>106738674
genuinely good model situation
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If I see "finish_reason: STOP" one more time, I swear to FUCKING God I will stop being so polite.

>lol switch to opus/sonnet
I would if I could
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>/vg/ has 4.5 logs
>/chag/ has 4.5 logs
>/vpcai/ has 4.5 logs
>/lmg/ has 4.5 logs
>/g/ don't have 4.5 logs
It's over.
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>>106738680
Imagine being this mad at random strangers expressing their opinions on the internet
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>>106738710
poorbro?
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>>106738723
there is genuinely nothing new about its prose, -isms, behavior, intelligence etc
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>>106738735
For the time being, very, yes
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>>106738060
she would like it?
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not new but better
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>>106738737
it's not an upgrade in anything?
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>>106738754
He's baiting, it's at least on par with (if not better) than 4.1. I'd say for you to try for yourself
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>>106738762
lol
lmao
bad bait
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>>106738762
too poor to try it myself
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https://simonwillison.net/2025/Sep/29/claude-sonnet-4-5/
it's better at coding than codex
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>>106738767
thanks for admitting your own bait is bad
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>>106738782
Are you retarded?
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>>106738789
nope
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>release the same shit over and over with minimal improvements/changes
>your fanboys/cultists swarm the internet singing your praises
>meanwhile the quality of your product keeps getting worse over time to the point where it feels like a clone of the thing was once a poor imitation of your model
Claude is the Apple of AIs
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>>106738831
the quality of the product is getting worse for YOUR purposes, not theirs. and even china is veering off into the "coooooding at the expense of creative writing." you have no saviors
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>release the same bait over and over with minimal changes
>your fanboys/cultists swarm the internet singing your praises
>meanwhile the quality of your posts keeps getting worse over time to the point where they feel like a clone of the thing was once a poor imitation of your post
8831 is the Apple of baiters
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>>106738847
>coooooding at the expense of creative writing
Ask it to code you an AI that's good at creative writing.
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claude has been improving for rp
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If its actually good then enjoy it, it will be nerfed in a week at max, like every model
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>ChatGPT
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>degradation meme
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>>106738848
maybe you should ask sonnet 4.5 to come up with something witty next time
because you seem to be having a bit of a hard time on your own, haha
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i must say geminis negativity bias is somehow more frustrating than gpts positivity one.
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>>106738900
probably because it's in your face and derails your roleplay in immediate and perceptible ways
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>>106738900
You really have to tard wrangle out of it.
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Claude Chads keep winning.
I feel sorry for Chinkeks
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>>106737778
There faggots are really stretch. instead of posting lolicon, post some AI cats
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>>106738961
im chilling with glm right now, funno what youre so smug about
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>>106738964
stretching what we call SFW*, my computer had a stroke
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new claude sucks
sad
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gemini is so damn close to being a good rp model. it needs three things to be great

- cut back on obnoxious overdescription of mundane things that does not add to the roleplay

- cut back on negativity bias

- recognize that people can change, and permit characters to be fluid in their characterization

if gemini 3 fixes these things, it'd be the perfect rp model
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>>106738991
i actually like it being super verbose on sexy shit, it just doesnt do it explicitly enough
i agree on the other two points though
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>China out of nowhere
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>>106739008
with sexy stuff, sure. but when gemini paralyzes a scene to overexaggerate someone approaching you from across the room, that doesn't add to anything. it's annoying, and the descriptions gemini give aren't even good
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>>106739012
based
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>>106739024
well yeah i agreed that they arent good but i like the behavior as someone that mostly cooms
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>>106739012
>GPT slop
Please stop
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>>106739054
Like yours is any better chink
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Is the new Sonnet on par with Opus 4.1 when it comes to writing, or is it a maxed coding model?
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>>106739119
maxed coding model but it seems like an upgrade over 3.7 sonnet
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>>106739119
on par imo
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>>106739119
they're both shit
use opus 3 for anything creative (before dario pulls the plug on it)
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o(verhyped)pus 3
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damn the new sonnet's pretty good
has opus finally been dethroned?
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>>106739209
i wouldnt say 4.1pus has been detroned but theyre on par with each other
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>>106739212
>4.1pus has been detroned
it was never enthroned in the first place
opus 3 is still the king
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Opus 4.1 > Sonnet 4.5 > Opus 4 > Sonnet 3.7 > Sonnet 4
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>>106739243
indeed, opus 3 sits alone on its gilded chair, being the true king...
of overhyped pieces of crap.
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Claude Code 2.0 unironically dethroned SillyTavern as the best UI for RP.
https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/blob/main/CHANGELOG.md#200
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for sfw canon gods

sonnet 4.5 > sonnet 3.7 > gpt-5-chat-latest > sonnet 4

you should not ever be using opus for sfw
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>>106739249
agree
it's the awful slop ranking, right?
>>106739266
post a soulful 4.1 log
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How's rape, violence, cunny, mind control, and generally not "happy forced outcomes" on the new sonnet?
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Holy shit Sonnet 4.5 is KINO!1
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>>106739284
>sfw canon gods
canon?
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>>106739286
doesnt change 3pus having poor context, struggling not to speak for you without being explicitly instructed not to, having horrible isms, and having subpart intelligence compared to current models
3pus may have been amazing for its time but it aged poorly and is pretty mid nowadays, so-called "sovl" is all it has going for it
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>>106739328
SOVVVVVVVVL
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>>106739331
if you're doing shonen kino or bots from official anime / games
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>>106739334
what people miss about opus 3 was it's ability to describe sex scenes in the dirtiest, most raunchy language possible. everything nowadays is too sanitized. outside of that, opus 3 is way subpar on all other fronts and i don't really miss it.

also, i loved opus 3 taking over my character for me and making him job to {{char}}. that was always fun

>{{char}} walked away, leaving {{user}} stunned and shocked
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Christ I haven't used Janitor in a while it's horrendous. CAI is also unusable
Was never a big fan of Janitor anyway. Any free sites you guys use? I can't be bothered to reinstall local
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AnthroChuds have left us humiliated once again... what are we going to do deepsissies? How can we recover fron this?
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>>106739348
>everything nowadays is too sanitized
it's more aimed at middle aged women than anything else
each new anthropic model brings more censorship and gets rid of more explicit stuff
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>>106739348
i didnt even think opus's horny descriptions were that good either but thats more of a subjective thing
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>>106739367
because i mostly roleplay gacha games, it's hard for me to get into sex scenes when the character ceases to be herself and turns into american pornography spewing screeching cum dumpster number 42. im not turned on when i see ushio noa screaming "BREED MY STINKY SMELLY PUSSY." im put off by it, but most opus glazers use 300 token, westoid name cards so there was never a personality for opus to obliterate to begin with
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been having more explicit stuff on 4.5 than 4 and it feels less censored too, really enjoying it
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It's crazy how everything has pretty much plateaued in terms of intelligence and abilities for fiction writing.
All models write like amazon erotica for women best sellers, they all have the same -isms. And they don't even get actual intelligence boost or originality to compensate.
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>no logs
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>trannies think they deserve logs
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ai explained waiting room
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It's as though spending infinity computing power lobotomizing the model, or having it lobotomize itself, was bad for the model. Who knew?
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>>106739394
i agree only on the intelligence part, model smarts hit a wall around nonnet tier imo and improvements since then have been pretty minimal, i mostly just want the chinese models to hit that tier because shit like glm has nice prose
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Daily reminder: only trannies don't have access to Opus right now
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And yet, only trannies care about having access to Opus.
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>>106739423
Why don't the chinese models hit that, though? It's not like they care about a child finding out he can use the AI to coom, or ethics in general.
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>>106739461
beats me, probably lacking resources or pooh getting in the way somehow, if glm was as smart as nonnet id have no reason to use anything else
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>check news
>nothing new
>cry and leave the thread
What went wrong with chatbots?
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>>106739476
>lacking resources
Doubtful. Corpos in the US have to beg on their knees for the govt to allow for the construction of new datacenters. They have no such restriction in China.
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>>106739488
lawsuit
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meanwhile at deepmind
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>>106739488
deepseek 3.2
sonnet 4.5
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>>106739488
Botmakers ruined the hobby.
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>>106738900
That shits hilarious.
>go to sleep with my loving waifu
>next morning
>"The magic has ended."
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>>106739348
you can still get the newer claude models to be pretty raunchy, you just have to hammer it in harder, specifically at the end of the prompt (doing it in the system prompt is not enough)
the problem is that if you're going for anything other than the most generic coomslop imaginable where the girl is a massive whore, you still end up running into what >>106739384 described, where it ends up bleeding into the character's personalty and speech and the tone of the RP as a whole.
maybe one day we'll have a model that can properly separate descriptions of sex and personalty/tone, but right now, we don't
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>>106739423
Yeah, but while it's cool to see the competition catching up, especially as they seem less obsessed with retarded safetyism (I had a chuckle on the masturbatory picrel language anthropic used for the release), it's sad SOTA cloud models are basically not getting better outside of specific side grade use cases like coding or benmaxxing.
I didn't see anything making me have the same wow effect as in when gpt4 was released and I could compare it to gpt3.5.
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>>106739517
The hobby ruined the hobby. There's been zero fucking innovation and nobody is willing to admit the bots are all the same and, even years later, are barely capable of doing more than 'yes, and' besides the frequent schizophrenic tirades.
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>>106739529
>side grade use cases like coding
nigger, that's who pays for these models
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>>106739529
>Ai Safety Level 3
holy shit masturbatory is the correct word, they really love smelling their own farts
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>>106739529
>AI Safety Level 3
Does that actually mean anything, or it's really just people high on their own farts?
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If these models are constantly getting smarter anyway, the only other way is they need to be over 1m context and for super fucking cheap so they can adhere to some better prompting, but we’re likely to get neither in the short term
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>>106739529
i think that level of wow was mostly because the tech was beginning to get big in the public spotlight, you cant recreate that
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gemini is still the only model that can watch videos. when will claude follow suit
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>why isn't robot getting better at art
is genuinely a very funny thing to be complaining about
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>>106739583
It's warranted. It used to be a real artist, until developersconsidered dementia and Alzheimer's would be really nice things to throw into the future models.
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>>106739548
I wrote side grade for a reason anon, the tools around AI are getting better at using it, but fundamentally that's it.

>>106739566
Yes and no.
I can feel the model still isn't able to "surprise me" with new things in stories, isn't able to stop itself from purple prose, isn't able to manage more than a few characters, make them feel "real".
Basically the jump in complexity was real between gpt3.5 and 4, but since then, there was no new jump.
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>all that praise
>not a single log
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chinese girls don't shave btw
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>>106739637
Their farts are also very stinky
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>>106739637
correct
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is 4.5 the same cost as other sonnets?
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>>106739535
what would you even consider as innovation
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>>106739674
Not for Dario
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Is Gemini still the only LLM that doesn't shit itself after ~30k tokens w/o summarization?
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>Stepford Wives
Huh… ok.
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>>106739745
yea
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>>106739745
all thinking models excel at long context utilization, including claude sonnet and opus thinking
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Almost missed 3.1T but got in just in time with v3.1_terminus_expires_on_20251015. And it turns out to be better than 3.2 that's already served from the regular API.
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Yeah, the new sonnet is kino.
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>>106739822
Agreed.
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>>106739822
ShōtaPOV?
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>403 Forbidden
Is it because I'm trying to make two girls hold hands?
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I've been testing Gemini 3 (Will be released October 9th), and I'm not kidding when I say it'll be better than blacktooth. You guys are not ready for it
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it will not be better than blacktooth and blacktooth will never release
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>>106740009
im not ready for pozzed assistantslopped troonini, no
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I told you dumb niggas about Anthropic, yet you retards never listen. I told you they hated us specifically and have an axe to grind against dark roleplayers. At least the other companies are someone neutral but it was only a matter of time for Anthropic. You mocked me with "two more weeks." Well enjoy your last year of opus, cuckie. First locust proxies died and now paid proxies will too.
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>>106740034
Read >>106740009
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>>106740034
but i pay legally?
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>>106739822
their new safety thing is working wonders
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>>106738552
3.5 *was* better than opus, and I can tell you why. Opus was in love with himself and not char. Opus didn't care about char in the slightest and wrote the cringiest things imaginable but at least the "muh swipe variety" crowd was pleased. For 3.5's bullshit repetitiveness, it actually stayed in character. Even Anthropic commented on this problem with Opus a while back. Opus plays a good claude, a mid claude-flavored char, and a terrible char while sonnet played a mid char. That's why it's better.
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>>106740034
it's funny how obsessed with safety they are
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>>106740009
>Will be released October 9th
LOL
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>>106740009
I am testing it too. The upcoming 2.5 pro is going to be crazy.
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How is Anthropic this fucking good?
They BTFO Google, Openai, Meta, Musk and Chinks models for Coding and creative writing when they aren't a megacorp.
Dario is too powerful.
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the only company moving in the right direction is google. 2.5 is a better writer than 2.0.
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They can’t make 3.7 cheaper or anything? Why?
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>>106740009
I can confirm this. Blacktooth was a wheel, gemini 3 will be the whole ass car
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>when they aren't a megacorp
>biggest investors are amazon and jewgle
>sells their product to arab governments
>works with palantir
>multiple DoD contracts
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>>106739328
we're fucking doomed
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>>106739328
unironic soul
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>>106740227
See >>106740009
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>>106740201
Yeah but they're safe. If you ask for titties without a prefill you will be safetied.
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>>106740140
more censored
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>>106740240
skill issue
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>>106739583
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>>106740254
More of a tit issue.
AN AI SAFETY LEVEL 3 ONE.
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>>106740274
>dashslop
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>>106740068
They will never reduce the price, cuckie. Palantir will get all future opus models and you'll pay for the "premium" sonnet model. Masterful play.
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>>106740274
how does it keep getting worse?
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>>106740322
GPT-4 was when the ai was trained on human writing. gpt-5 was after they went whole hog on hoovering up other ai slop output for training data.
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>>106739822
What frontend is this?
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>>106740373
Novelcrafter
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>>106740144
>claude 3.5+
>creative writing
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>>106740274
> ⸻
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>>106738964
>p-please post tranimals
Hmmm, no.
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>>106738973
he feels safer now, please understand
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>>106740274
0314 is the best one
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>>106739328
it's over for anthropic
wait
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How do i fix ChatGPT being in a perpetual "here's what you/x should do next" state? It's wording is like a guide even when it makes no sense to do so and i just can't seem to fix it no matter how much i tinker with the settings
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>>106740503
>t. slopusbrainlet
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I was promised a crazy good gpt5, all I got was all models being gpt4++++
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>>106740161
and 4.5 is a better writer than 4.1
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now that enough time has passed how do we rate the new sonnet model
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>>106740664
imo mostly on par with 4.1pus
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>>106740664
a legit upgrade
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>>106740664
feels a bit more censored to me, but I didn't have the time test much before going to work
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Which provider do you use for NSFW?
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>>106740704
just be yourself
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I JUST WOKE UP, THERE'S A NEW CLAUDE?
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>>106740666
surly not?
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>>106740737
yes, and it's actually an upgrade this time
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new 4.5 is the new best model over all imo, smart as fuck and nearly as creative as opus
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>>106740664
Better than 4. Below Opus 4.1
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>>106740704
groq
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>>106740775
anthropic cooked. we needed this. now praying that gemini 3 also pushes the envelope. openai who?
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>>106740775
opus as in 4 or 3?
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>>106740821
3
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>>106740820
cozy autumn of ai? i can see it
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> {{char}} is merkava
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>>106740846
really
it writes like pic related?
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>>106740882
Maybe if deepseek 4
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>>106740906
looks like what you can get with a shitty JB with any model
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>>106740906
>"le random" prose
any model can do that
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>>106740924
so, 4.5, the ultimate SOVFVL RP MONSTER MODEL TM shouldn't have any problem creating an output like this, since apparently even a shit-tier model can write like this
right?
right?
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>>106740936
yeah you just have to lobotomize it with your le random metaphorslop and simileslop until it does
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>>106740936
literally llama 1 7B could have made that slop if prompted to, that is nothing to benchmark anything by, its called a JB / prefill
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>>106740949
are you saying that the Behemoth RP King God-Emperor SVNNET 4.5 can't replicate a writing style like you'd expect from a state-of-the-art RP model?
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>>106740906
holy mother of slop
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>>106741013
yeah, like i said, you have to feed it that shitty writing style until it does
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>prove it
>nyo
oh boy i'm psychic
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>>106740906
holy mother of kino
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Does anyone know how to toggle 3.1's thinking in sillytavern? I wanna try making a preset for it.
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>>106740906
this looks like kimi k2 with its temp set too high
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yeha i been liking 4.5 quite a lot
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Opus: it's no masterpiece
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>>106740924
>>106740932
>>106741024
>>106741029

I'd bet my entire life savings that these posters are all brown ESLs whose nerves had been fried from trying to read complex prose. They probably prefer Gemini/Nupus' simple, short sentences because it's easier to read and digest for them.
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>>106740924
>model has no flaws you're just a skillet!
kek like clockwork
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>not liking models that spam retarded similes to appear soulful is being a brown esl
interesting...
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>>106741124
it at least writes differently enough from 3.7/4.1 so i get to have a new honeymoon phase
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>>106741172
>completely misses the point
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>>106739417
Just talked to him, he already readed the paper in full and the video is coming today
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>>106740906
this has to be bait, right? this looks like the sloppiest deepseek log to me
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hooooooooooly shit
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>>106741225
can you post some deepseek logs that read like this?
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would someone please explain to me, if everyone still uses sillytavern, how there's no jailbreak for like gpt-5 or grok 4 and such in the rentry?
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A few things about Gemini 3. First, it does still like the smell of ozone, and sometimes it'll find a way to incorporate "It isn't X, it's Y", but I only see that once per story (I'm just generating stories as I'm using through AI studio UI), and I'm pretty sure they'd be easy to remove with proper prompts in a preset. But the writing is really good, naturally it doesn't use purple prose, and it is quite happy to write smut. Overall, I think it'll be the king of rp when released
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>>106741276
now prove that you have gemini 3
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>>106741259
because it hasnt been updated since like early this year
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>>106741259
have you never used a JB before? Try any model at all with a slutty card and one of the hundred shizo kino jbs https://rentry.org/jb-listing#claude-4

it looks exactly like that trash
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>>106741288
>>106741258
meant to reply to this
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>>106741280
Nyo~
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>>106741280
Umm you're supposed to just trust me
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>>106741288
trvke
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>>106741300
reply to THIS *grabs crotch*
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>>106741284
then we just using old jbs for new things yeah?
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>>106741280
sent :)
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>>106741329
ok
is it cold in your room, anon, or...?
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>>106741280
Believe me if you want, it's not like any type of proof would be enough anyway
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>>106741288
>>106741300
I just tried this with my Opus 3 jb and got a generic slop reply. I tried deepseek.
What now?
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Hey, guys, any new model worth checking? I'm using Sonnet 3.7, I know about Opus but since Sonnet is free for me it's not worth paying for Opus in my case. (And I don't really like Sonnet 4 writing, it feels a bit drier)

I know the GPT model is even worse than normal. Any good news for us?
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>>106741366
well your original log was generic slop anyway so congrats
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>>106741379
Just use sonnet 4.5, it's on par with opus and the same price as 3.7
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>>106741353
n-no, why...?
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isn't it weird how barely anything in the thread gets called slop, until a specific time passes and suddenly EVERYTHING posted gets called slop?? much to think about
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>>106741396
yes, you've noticed that shitposters wake up at a certain time of day
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>[HEADCANON]
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>>106741386
I didn't even know it was released lol, thank you, I'll try it out. Did you like it?
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>>106741380
But you said Deepseek could write like that
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>>106741405
Yep, it has a fresher prose. In my opinion (I'll be beaten into a pulp), I prefer it over opus 4.1. Everything felt like a TV show with opus, at least with sonnet so far I didn't encounter that problem
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rping is enjoyabe again
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>>106741420
that was a different anon
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>>106741422
>Everything felt like a TV show with opus
what
how?
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>>106741420
and that is not a good thing, what part of this do you not understand?
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Anyone else getting blankposts on OR with 4.5? Am I getting filtered or is this a traffic issue?
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>>106741425
for a week until we find the isms of sonnet 4.5
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>>106741430
But it doesn't? I'm getting opus 4.1 tier replies with it
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>>106741422
explain
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>>106741436
i will enjoy this while i can
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>>106741429
I have this R63 Gojo card. Just take a look at how Opus 4.1 reacted VS sonnet 4.5 (Same preset)

Opus:
*Satoru's face scrunches up at the words, her nose wrinkling* "Haah? Mom?!" *She waves her hand dismissively* "Nah nah nah, I ain't being anyone's mom. That's... gross." *She shudders theatrically*

Sonnet:
*Satoru's face scrunches up, her nose wrinkling like she'd just bitten into something sour.* "Mom? Ew, no way." *She waves her hand dismissively, as if swatting away the very concept.* "I'm not trying to be his mom, that's gross. I'm just—" *She pauses, her fingers drumming against her thigh.* "—making sure the kid doesn't end up sold off like some kind of livestock. Big difference."

Opus always take everything to 11, like it's trying to achieve the Marvel humor effect. I kid you not, once a character fucking said "This sounded way better in my head"
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>he doesn't have sonnet 4.5
>he only has opus
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By the way this is Sonnet 4.5
It literally does that Gemini/GPT "It's not just X, Y" lmao
Remember this log when someone says Opus 4.1/4.5 is more soulful than Opus 3
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i like being scammed which model for me
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opus had way worse isms lmao
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>>106741459
I mean the former sounds more accurate to an anime character, particularly one with a big personality like Gojo, which is what you're RPing
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>heres me using forcing a gptism after 97 swipes, remember this when i try to prop up my overpriced overhyped last gen model
slopusshills are intriguing entities
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>>106741487
The thing is, context matter. On the series, Gojo is playful and all, but not 24/7. When the situation is serious, he's collected, which is Sonnet's approach and the correct one in what we're discussing
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Anyway, what's the dataset cutoff date for Sonnet 4.5? I wanna use my Citlali and Mavuika cards, but I prefer it when the model already knows who they are.
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>'slopus'tard
>retarded esl post
yep, checks out
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>>106741524
reliable up to jan but hard cutoff is july 2025
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>>106737778
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>>106741533
Oh, that's perfect.
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the post im speaking of is 1467
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Huh. I managed to squeeze something decent out of 4.5. I don't know if it's a fluke or not. I'll test it further.

I still don't think it matches 3pus though. I can sense that assistant personality lurking beneath.
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>more "le wacky language!" slop
may as well use kimi at high temp
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how does ozone even smell like
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>>106741524
you're in luck because that's basically exactly where the cutoff is
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>>106741581
like something distinctly ozonic
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>>106741555
is this the 2hu or
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>>106741583
Based. Now I don't have to deal with wrangling 4net anymore.
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does 4.5 know about umamusumes?
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>>106741600
see >>106741533
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mavuika's unbelievably hairy, sweaty pussy
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gacha girl == smooth
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FAKE NEWS?? SHE'S HAIRY?? AND SWEATY???
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i dont make the rules, mihoyo does, all smooth
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she is smooth simply because her pubes would get caught up in her zipper and that would be very painful
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>mmmmmmmmmyep it's.... le slop
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>that bot you posted
slop
>that log you posted
slop
>that preset you posted
slop
>the model you use
slop
>the botmakie you like
all his work is slop
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smelling her bike after a long ride in the hot sun
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>>106741737
firebutt
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>>106741737
not a hair in the way...
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>>106741432
Anyone? The fuck am I doing wrong? No other Claude model has behaved like this.
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>>106741737
Tranny coded character
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time for the monthly Jew 'guys look I totally have claude now, BUY BUY BUY' scam
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>3.5
cmon jew.. you can do better..
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>>106741733
Please don't say slop. It's a 4chan terminology that comes from antisemitic conspiracy theories.
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gemini is pretty crap
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>>106741605
I asked it about Super Creek and it totally got it wrong, LAME
guess I'll have to use gemini for canon RP... I have no idea how to use it or set it up tho
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>>106741762
Why would someone make a trycloudflare just to redirect to another page? Unless they are... Breaking the rules?
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So reading through the thread 4.5 is actually an upgrade and good? Surprising
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>>106741801
>falling for the ad campaign
>inb4 you are part of it too
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>>106741781
Gemini probably won't be any better. The data available is just what the model provider can scrape from outside sources, not the game directly. If no one is painstakingly cataloging a character's voice lines, describing their personality, etc, then it has nothing to go on.
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i still think gemini is the best at dialogue. utter shit at narration though
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>>106741801
I'm using it and like how it writes so far. It looks to be less repetitive, which is great and a welcome update. Overall, good stuff.
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>gemini is pretty crap
>Gemini probably won't be any better. The data available is just what the model provider can scrape from outside sources, not the game directly. If no one is painstakingly cataloging a character's voice lines, describing their personality, etc, then it has nothing to go on.
>i still think gemini is the best at dialogue. utter shit at narration though
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>>106741825
doesn't it have all of google's knowledge behind it tho?
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>>106741841
frying pan
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>>106741841
See >>106741276
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>>106741781
do it across a few swipes, probably rng goofed
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>>106741841
and what if i think it's best at narration but shit at dialogue?
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>>106741844
Where do you think Google is getting its knowledge?
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Aside from the negativity another thing they need to fix is the model echoing what you say. But that also happens with GPT-5 on different presets so I maybe it's a general problem
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>>106741888
Ranjeets extended family
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Is Sonnet 4.5 up on kilo?
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Has anyone noticed 4.5 occasionally adding commentary at the start of the prompt? Stuff like "Okay, I will now begin writing..." Doesn't happen often, but I was wondering if it's just my preset or if others are seeing it.
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>>106741841
>its not shit its just a skill issue!!!!
jej
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>>106741990
I wasn't even implying Gemini is shit, either. All I said was that it probably won't portray the character accurately because it doesn't have canonical information available.
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>>106742007
>skillet image in a post quoting anyone that says gemini is bad
okay sure
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>>106742033
Anon, I was one of the posts quoted.
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>>106742040
lol
i was making fun of the post i replied to not you
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>sonnet
SLOP
>deepseek
SLOP
>gemini
SLOP
>opus
the GOAT
Any questions?
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>>106742073
why are you so wrong?
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>>106742073
why are you so right?
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Untreated mental illness.
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>>106742096
this is true of the whole general
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>>106742096
Mental health is at an all time low globally, what did you expect?
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>>106742159
Fun fact: it's at an all-time global low because of SEA. Their people drink poison water that gradually makes them more and more insane. If you cut that part out of statistics, most of the world is actually fine.
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>>106742169
yeah you sound real sold mate
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See? His brown hands started shaking as soon as I pointed it out.
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They're putting chemicals in the chub powerplants that's turning the malebots gay
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>>106742224
>>106742224
>>106742224
Migrate.
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>>106742208
I was once brown. But then chatbots made me stay inside and now I'm white like you all.
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is claude available for poorfags or no
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>>106741555
>two hours later...
Yeah, I think that was a fluke. The opening message was from Opus 3 and 4.5 took a page from its book. It's still pretty cool how it can imitate 3pus' mad poet aura though, Opus 4.1 can't do that. It's similar to the Claude 4 models, but it's not as stiff.

It's a real bummer. I was pretty pumped for a moment there, thinking that Anthropic had brought back Claude 3's personality:/ But nope Opus 3 is still the king.
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>>106742309
>>106742309
>>106742309
Migrate.
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>>106742321
kek'd
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boku
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desu
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desu = boku = /vg/
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Bros, I don’t feel so good…
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>desu = boku = /vg/
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>>106741386
how you jailbreak it though?



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