/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbotsFreedom Edition>NewsClaude Sonnet 4.5 released https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-5DeepSeek-V3.2-Exp released https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250929Kimi K2 0905 released https://moonshotai.github.io/Kimi-K2Deepseek V3.1 released as deepseek-chat on official API https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250821OpenAI releases GPT-5 models, all preceding models slated for deprecation https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5additional info: https://aicg.miraheze.org/?action=history>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat>Botshttps://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://jannyai.comhttps://char-archive.evulid.cc>Modelsjailbreaks: https://aicg.miraheze.org/Jailbreaks?action=historygpt/claude/gemini/deepseek: https://openrouter.ailocal: >>>/g/lmg>Botmakinghttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>Metalore: https://aicg.miraheze.org/Chronicles?action=historylogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orgPrevious: >>106737778
Never download a bot linked in this thread. Get bots from these sites or make your own:https://chub.ai/search?sort=trendinghttps://chub.ai/search?sort=randomhttps://realm.risuai.net/https://jannyai.com/These people won't be able to weaponize the attention you give them against the thread, unlike the botmakers that you find here.Hit them where it hurts by taking away the little pond/big fish effect they need.Kill them with indifference.Spit on their corpses.They're parasites.
Granny sex.
grok 4 fast is actually good btw
>>106742264I actually use the app for phone-sex when I'm bored and lying in bed and want to hear some lady saying sexy stuff to me, it's not bad
>>106742224I pretty much look like this
>>106742224I look like the opposite of this
>>106742169explain why young white men can't stop killing themselves then?
>Why's it called Freedom Edition anyway?I'm glad that you ask. Free of botmakers and /vg/. The people constantly shitting on this general.
>>106742453it takes being mentally ill to live in shithole and be happy and not suicidal, SEA is just like thateven animals on instinct in bad conditions kill themselves kek
>>106742453you got him on that oneid bet a lot of the cause for poor mental is employment struggles
>>106742497animals don't kill themselves teebs, otherwise jungles, which are hellholes of fornication and murder, would be empty
>>106742453The difference between having hope and being constantly let down vs. being born into a slave race and knowing it, so you just come to terms with reality early.
>>106742453because european water makes their men grow breasts, hate Christianity and cut their dicks
dude fuck opus, i'm cooming mi brains out with 4.5
>>106742536but whites actually support slavery?don't you want to keep women inside homes and browns on a lower social class?it's all just a change of masters, the "hope" you speak of is just a jewish illusion, there was never a chance for someone like you to reproduce or have a decent job now that numbers are not neededyears ago jews needed you to risk your life and conquer land, now all arable land already belongs to them
I wasn't impressed with 4.5 but I only tried it with existing chats and my old preset.
It's kinda disgusting when you can tell it's teebs replying to you. Like when you go outside and it's really humid.
Returning to chatbots after a while... Is ST still the most used UI?
>>106742836No, we abandoned ShillTavern a long time ago. We're using these now:https://github.com/p-e-w/waidrinhttps://github.com/Tavernikof/NoAssTavernhttps://github.com/astrskai/astrskhttps://github.com/vegu-ai/talematehttps://github.com/Narratium/Narratium.ai
>>106742868So... Any recommendatios among these? Or I should just try them all and decide myself. Alsoc urious about why neither of these is on the OP...
>>106742868Nice
>>106742836nigga read the op
>>106742640have you tried kimi 2 0905?
>>106742887The OP is extremely outdated
>duuude the new 4.5 is GOD TIER>duuuuuuuuuudee it's the OPUS killer>duuuuudeeeee it's the best model ever>try it>it's literally a cheap copy of opus 4.1, more like sonnet 4.1lol, as expected from retarded claude cultists and coping paypigs thinking they can finally have an opus tier model at a discount
>>106742882You should use all of them at the same time.
>he tried it>mysterious absence of logs
>>106742905TRVKE
>>106742868is there any point on noAssTavern now?
>duuude opus 3 is GOD TIER>duuuuuuuuuudee it's the GPT4 killer>duuuuudeeeee it's the best model ever>try it>it's literally a cheap copy of claude 2.1, more like gpt4.1lol, as expected from retarded claude cultists
>>106742914what's with you troons and obsession with logs? you can't measure a model's quality with a single cherrypicked outputyou have to run an extensive session which i've done with 4.5 and found it to be worse than 4.1 in every way especially in character portrayal and growthit's smaller than opus and it shows
>>106742925What do you mean? It's like a less bloated Tavern.
I edit Chorbo, DS, and Gemini logs to make them seem better than the output actually is, then post them to get retards' hopes up.
>>106742944they serve as proof you actually have the model and arent shitposting for the hell of it
running an extensive coom saga and i have to say 4.5 mogs 4.1
>>106742936TRVKE
>>106743004buy an ad
>>106743009Mmmm, nyo.
>tell kimi "i have had no alcohol for 3 months">very next line is "jesus you smell like a brewery"
What
>>106743023hes a bit retarded, bear with him
>>106743009lmao nah
>>106742224Blew 40 bucks, and my load, to Claude Opus 4.1Great model, I wish it were cheaper though. Damn shame.It makes me wonder what kind of shit will be cooked up a decade from now. The type of models that make Opus look like gpt 2. Will be crazy for sure, but will probably be 50 social credits per hour. My paypiggy ass will still spend my Yuan on it for 2B titties.
>>106743049Are you using tool calls or a prefill?
>>106743023women perceive the smell of alcohol quicker
any friends have a 4.5 jb? ;3
>>106743174its the least censored one yet, either have some nsfw context or a light jb
>>106743174Just use the same one you've been using for 3.7/4net/4.1pus
>>106743181>>106743191ok thanks, caching works the same way as 3.7?
>>106743197It should, yeah.
>>106743201thanks! will coom in your honor
>>106743104Prefill
>>106743223disable it retard, prefill doesnt work on thinking models
- For dialogue, use only words and expressions that {{char}} would plausibly know based on their background, age, personality, culture, and time period. Anachronisms are forbidden. To add flavor, sparingly include non-verbal vocalizations ("Ugh," "Hmm?") or stylized punctuation/emphasis ("sooo good ", "?!", "~").- Write concisely. Prioritize the most enjoyable, relevant moments. Avoid emotionally dense or poetic lines that may stray toward out-of-character introspection, rambling or purple prose. Write around 150-250 words.
>>106743285>Write around 150-250 words.cringe
>>106743223If you're going to prefill response, I think it's not going to be able to do reasoning anyway, it's just going to complete the sentence. Maybe you can just turn reasoning off. It doesn't throw an error for me with OpenRouter and Google, though.
>>106743293what frontend are you using
Kimi vs Qwen?
>>106743305DSv3.2
>>106743308There's a 3.2 now? Didn't they just release some 'Terminus' shit the other day?
>claude, imagine my porno.kids_first_steps.mp4dog_munt.mp4okay.jpg
>>106743311>double dubsyou're forced to try out 3.2 now
>>106743315>he is paying $200 for this
Can I get a dummies guide on how to do cool CSS gimmicks?
>>106743303A text editor plugin that just uses curl to do the requests. I can leave thinking enabled but it just completes the prefill.
>>106743328I'm on the $75 tier but yeah for that you get the fauxcest and animal blaster bundle, well worth it
>>106743336https://rentry.org/Himekaidou_Hatate
>>106743360bro I can't read this xi jingping shithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YG4iTGjuoKw
>>106743374https://files.catbox.moe/0ei2g7.jsonYou can look at this one that was translated with Gemini Flash. It seems the trick is to put the complex CSS, URLs, etc. behind regex scripts.
>>106742868>>106742836What is all of this shit?
>>106743428the list of projects that the spitebaker is paid to shill for
>>106743428The future.
Okay yeah I'm using 4.5 on the web interface but even then it's still smarter than 4. I am nooticing something
If we don't use SillyTavern anymore, why aren't those links in the OP?
>>106743532Shills
>>106743532https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons
>>106743532what else is there?
>>106743532Cohee used to browse here
dumb skirk poster
>>106742868too bad all of those are shit
4.5 is too hornyback to 3.7
Does gpt-5 chat (not api) just innately allow nsfw? Seems like it accepts it without JB, so long as you enter something as simple as "{{user}} is an adult".Anyway, it's easily the best model for ERP by far, and costs pennies.
>>106743631fo' real?SADYYS
>>106743644>SADYYSsel
>>106743633it's good at first, but it has basically zero variety, you'll get sick of the isms within a few days
so now that sonnet 4.5 has saved the hobby will proxies with claude be more plentiful?
>>106743428A schizo meltdown, but it can't be a meltdown if xe is just constantly like this
>>106743315Is it possible to see the prompts of this?
4.5 still remarkably bad at recognizing what it just wrote, the same as all LLMs.>three exclamation marks>there are four total>and never more than two together
How do i stop this in Soji? Fucking shit it will NOT STOP. Seems to happen more now that I'm 540 messages deep.
What's with gemini and starting responses with "silently"?
Why do we have two threads with the same OP image?
>>106744077This is the real thread.
>>106744077This is the fake thread.
>>106744077This is the surreal thread.
>>106744077/vg/ raid because we keep removing their stuff from the OP.
>>106743926>540poisoned context, summarize your chat and start a new one
sonnet 4.5=opus 4.1 > opus 4 > opus 3 > sonnet 3.7 > sonnet 4
>>106744203Opus 4.1 > Sonnet 4.5 but I'm alright with the rest
So, /vg/ wonned?
>>106743633It’s less filtered, but it’s shit.
>>106744187So literally just like write a summary of everything that's happened? Should I make that the first reply after the initial message so the chatbot can connect them logically?
>>106744287*before the initial messageyeah, that should kill the repetition of sudden timeskips
Before? But the initial message is the setup. I was thinking it would be like >blah blah hey anon>blah blah blahand then >so we started dating and then we got married blah blah blahand then the chatbot repliesI'll try this, thanks.
>>106744209from my testing sonnet has been less annoying in filtering and doesn't really have a very visible difference with opus 4.1, thus my ranking. its basically the same, opus might get you a bit more better writing but you'd have to get a lucky gen to see any actual difference between the two. for the less annoying factor i think sonnet 4.5 edges it a tiny bit.
>>106744344inch cock
>>106744369thats a decent cock man
>>106744328Seems to work pretty well, the LLM picks up and only changes minor details. I could probably improve the summary to make it more accurate.Thanks for this.
>>106744328you can always ooc your own scenario after the first message, works pretty well
>>106744077One has an anchor for new bots, the other hates bots made by anons.
ai is currently training on ur guys shit source code and making everything worse
>>106744448they are actually using indian programmers
>>106744432What about /vg/?
>>106744494wwyd if the bot opens with "good morning sir"
https://docs.z.ai/guides/llm/glm-4.6it's up
>>106745200LMAOOO what are we doing!!
>>106745209Right??? Misthropic is fucking ripping me off if open source shitters get a poorfag tier priced model just as good as Sonnet
>>106745200impressed by deepsex
poor baities.... there's no such thing as a 'locust' any more. what are you going to do now?!
>>106742224>>106742229skirk's unbelievably hairy pussy...
>>106745227sadly worthless untill someone puts it to the test. sadly i dont expect anything from the chinese for rping.
>>106745200the chinese are as bad as elon are at lying about the capabilities of their models.
>>106745280They specifically said it's better for RP.
>>106745295and? i dont believe dario when he says his models are more safer with the time. someone put it to the god damn test already.
>>106745317stfu and believe the ads already ffs
>>106742229I just finished the next batch of Blue Archive character cards. Featured this time are the ladies from the Justice Task Force.>MashiroSniper, hangs out in high places, obsessed with justice, wears a skirt so short that she's basically bottomless.https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/shizuyama-mashiro-non-ai-9f2118737cefhttps://files.catbox.moe/t2nuxt.png>KoharuHorny and Stupid.https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/shimoe-koharu-non-ai-ae92f023618chttps://files.catbox.moe/jlbmae.png>JTF Mob-chan(s)This one is quite different from my usual. It's not a specific character, but a card for the background characters of the JTF. These faceless girls are SUPER popular with the game's fandom, more than a lot of the named ones, even.https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/jtf-mob-chan-non-ai-6c9eb0b33aebhttps://files.catbox.moe/2ifgzv.png>where are the other birds?Ichika and Hasumi will get swimsuit alts on the next BlueFes so I'll wait until I see their new events and momos. Those are super important in making these cards behave like the in-game characters. As for Tsurugi....I can't say I care much about her, so maybe I'll make her later.>where are the shupogakisI was supposed to make them next but I got distracted. Plus I ended up loving Aoba way more than the twins.I make high quality and effort Blue Archive characters and OCs: https://chub.ai/users/hairpullguyAnd here's my Rentry: https://rentry.org/hairpullbots
ichika's unbelievably hairy pussy... hasumi's unbelievably hairy pussy... mashiro's unbelievably hairy pussy... tsurugi's unbelievably hairy pussy...
Unironically found this one looking at AI Roguelite's reviews.
>>106745317stop questioning, consume chinese product
>>106745534Normally I'd argue teenage girls couldn't possibly be THAT hairy, but those raven colored and winged girls definitely look like they'd be like that. Hasumi in particular, with that body, she has to have an unruly jungle that wouldn't look out of place on an 80's vintage porno.That said, I don't particularly find Hasumi interesting. Other than the fact that she was ready to let you grope her breasts, she isn't terribly interesting as a character. It's only ever funny when she's the butt of the joke, like on picture related or when Haruna just told her "why don't you just eat what you want and not get fat? ohohoh"
>harunannngghghghnghng i should've made a card of her
>>106743308chutes doesn't have this right?
>>106745586I want to make the food terrorists but it's a daunting task. They are perhaps the club with the most material to cover. They appear in several story volumes, play a key role in Volume F and they also appear in, like, half a dozen different events. Not to mention alts.
>Comfy Cloud>NovelCrafter>Friends & FablesYou don't need more.
>>106745811You don't get to tell me what I need. The proxyLORD era is OVER. I use what I WANT.
>glm 4.6 releases>zero hype>zero logs>literally nothing at allthe bubble is popping
>>106746235we're all busy cooming to sonnet 4.5 silly, why would we care about the latest chinkslop?
>>106746260Name one thing you do with 4.5 that you couldn't with 4.
>>106746316multiply with 2 and get 9
>>106746235It's not on OR.And everyone has chinkslop models fatigue
>>106746235wtf is gml
>>106746644Chinkslop model
So is Sonnet 4.5 good? Is it available on OR?
>>106746260i tried 4.5 with three different presets and got "somewhere, x" in several different swipesis this what claudebrowns consider to as kino? old ds slop phrases?
>>106746837I'm not getting them, so you are lying or it's a skill issue.
>>106745575>this one... well? What is it? Is it any good or a pile of gimmicks?
>>106746837At this point it's safe to say that Claudefags are cultists.They literally lash out at you and demand proof that you have Claude when you criticize their modelstf?? Tell me this isn't some cultlike behavior from the 70-80s
>>106746524now it is:https://openrouter.ai/z-ai/glm-4.6
>>106746850probably because you're doing some kind of low effort ahh ahh mistress type roleplayingits inevitable when you instruct it to write longer and in a novel style>>106746867ok but where is the part they all go into the woods and ack themselves? they and their shitty models are starting to get annoying
>>106746235>Refined writing: Better aligns with human preferences in style and readability, and performs more naturally in role-playing scenarios.One of the few companies to actually take that into account. Or at least saying it out loud
4.5 > Opus 4.1 > Opus3 > 3.7 > 3.5 > tranny models
>>106746891It's the reverse. Notice how you went directly with>muh preset!>>106746837But didn't talk about the context.It's because you're a slopper.
>>106746906Is this the overrated shit models ranking? Sounds about right then
>>106746906you forgot nonnet which is roughly equal to 3.7 but otherwise youre right
>>106746883Immediate first impression is thinking output is fuck huge for RP and outright mentions 'character arcs'.
>>106746908it's the third message of my slave feitsh. it has no purple prose in it and i instructed sonnet to write in the style and prose F. Scott Fitzgeald which is not known for shit like "somewhere, x" or "smells like x, y, and uniquely {{user}}" which claude LOVES to plaster in every message for some reasonhappy now?
What is the Final Solution to Claudefag Question? Geoblock India?
>>106746952 >feitsh OK, ESL. I don't think you should be talking about model quality.
>>106746998TRVKE
>>106746952ill also add some moresonnet has its own writing style and it merely uses FSF or any other author as stylistic seasoning for example it still uses claudisms but rephrased in the author's style
>>106746998>completely ignores his criticism and focuses on a single typoClaudejeets are hilarous
>>106747057 There is no valid criticism because there are no logs. Calling others jeets while writing like >>106746952, >>106747034 is also hilarious.
>>106747057SAAAR DO NOT REDEEM CLAUDE!!! CLAUDE MOGS EVERYTHING ELSE SAAAR BEAUTIFUL LOOKS4.5 BEST MODAL SAAR IT HELPS ME REDEEM GOOGLE CARDS FROM WHITE BENCHODS
just look at any proxy and look at the chinkslop models usage, if they are so good why does nobody use them outside of openrouter where people are using them for free because they cannot afford better
>>106747104they all pay direct
>>106747104the people that swear by deepseek dont use proxies
>>106747104I paid $10 to deepseek over half a year ago and I'm down to $7, why would anybody use a proxy for this?
>>106747071>muh logswhats your next cope, nigger? dance for me
>>106747201Claudesissies...
>>106747201>No model and no context displayed*YAWN*
>>106747201SAAAR HE IS USING A SHITTY PRESETSKILL ISSUE SAAARHE IS ACTUALLY USING A CHINK MODEL SAAAAAAAAAAAAR
>>106746883It's slop.
Why instead of saying Deepseek is slop, GPT is slop, Claude is slop, you don't get to enjoy the model YOU like instead of competing over something that's completely subjective? LolClaudecucks attacking Deepseek are the ones who can't cope with the fact that Claude is badDeepchinks attacking Claude are the ones coping with the fact that they can't pay for ClaudeJust enjoy your model lol
>>106747238Chinksissies...
>>106747239>no dont say models are bad bro!>says claude is bad
>>106747238in the hands of a skillet, anything is slop
I'm a GPT-5 Chat CHAD>B-but it's bad!Skill issue.
Side-by-side with 4.5 and 4.6, same preset, should be easy to tell which one is which if you enjoy long form RP. Also there's no output target length in the preset.
>>106747274Post your non-slop GLM logs.
>>106747282right is way better
>>106747282>Long form RPNigger, it's not long form RP. It's you going low effort "ahh ahh mistress". Of course all your outputs will be slop.
>>106747285see >>106747282, theyre nonslop
>>106747282Both are slop and you should feel bad.
>>106747201and here is the infamous "somewhere down the hall"
>>106747282glm 4.5 vs glm 4.6, right? this isn't a sonnet 4.5 vs glm 4.6 comparison
>>106747282actually kino, post more
>>106747201>>106747319Lol. Chink model tier slop. But at least chink models don't cost ten times as much, which makes Claudefags more pathetic than chinkslopper
>>106747319 It's bad and slop, but it's not a DeepSeek somewhere. Here at least it has an impact on what's happening. DeepSeek "somewhere" is more like: >somewhere a dog barked >somewhere a squirrel lost a nut
>>106747282slop>>106747238slop>>106747201slopopus 3 really killed this hobby huh
>>106743532I've been asking the same question every time I visit this shithole>>106743566Most people use talemate these days, russians use noasstavern, not sure about chinks
>someone posts a log for glm>slopusjeets rush to call it slop solely because it isnt claudelike clockwork
>>106746858https://fables.gg/I don't know, I will try it later.
>>106747261It was an example... I was exemplifying that people attacking eachother are insecure about the OWN MODELS they're using. I like Claude myself, it's the model I use, but I don't give a shit if people don't like it, I do and that's what matters. Call it slop or not, why do I have to prove it's good? I like it and that's all that should matter lol
>>106747404It's slop doe?
>>106747313They're both sloppy though?
>>106747391>Most peopleby what metric
>>106747321GLM 4.6 (Left) vs Sonnet 4.5 (Right)
>>106747413>>106747412to you they are, solely because theyre not claudeif he said it was comparing claude models you wouldnt be crying slop lol
>the question hung between them like xanother annoying claudism, also "somewhere, blah blah" in the following sentence>>106747338who said i was paying for it :^)
>>106747417Asking fellow oldfags in discord
>>106747423Claude is sloppy.
>>106747422>GLM 4.6 (Left) vs Sonnet 4.5 (Lie)
>>106747427That's an ancient Claudism, I've been seeing the question/declaration hung between them like something something since the 2.1 days. I can't believe it made it to Sonnet 4.5RIP balls in your court though :(
I checked /vg/ and /mlp/, and their Sonnet 4.5 logs don't have isms and are good. Are we skillets?
there's nothing wrong with neutering as long as it benefits the male's behavior, you know
>>106747489Yes.
>>106747489They are known to always use chorbo, no matter what, so every time a new model gets released they simply fabricate logs by changing model's name from chorbo to whatever is trendy
Anon's Sonnet 4.5 logs hung in the thread like a bad decision. They reeked of something foul and wrong, like slop going down a pig's throat. Somewhere down the hall, Claudefag was furiously bashing his keyboard.
>>106747489All Skillchads moved to /vg/, only sloppers are still here.
>>106747554This was written by gemini
Too many claudeless troons here.
Too many underage slopusjeets here.
>>106747489how many of those logs even have the claude icon showing?
>>106747489They instruct it to write extremely briefly, without any prose, so that there would be no ismsYou'll definitely come across some of those isms when writing longform
>>106747620No. There was long logs too.
>>106747554Legit sounds like something straight out of Max Payne if he Claude
>>106747489there is only one sonnet 4.5 log on /vg/ and it's mid tier
I have ascended.I don't RP.I don't directorMAXX.I tell the AI to play as {{user}} and just read.
You guys are not ready for gemini 3 pro. It's so fucking good at writing. Think blacktooth, but smarter
>>106747695I'm so ready for the same assistantslopped googletrash.
>>106747695gemini, LMAO
>>106747695Bro I want to have hopes for Gemini... But Gemini is... Well, Gemini
>>106747695i hope you are right anon
>more gemini 3 baitlmao
Gemini would be the best LLM by FAR if it had token bias.Just being able to reduce "thick" "air" "hang" "..." and "stark" would be enough.
>>106747650 I checked threads and archives to see if it was bait or not. I saw 3 /vg/ logs and 3 /mlp/ logs.
>>106747282slop in, slop outsimple as
>>106747701>>106747709>>106747728Wait until october 9th and let's see who's the fucking clown here
>>106747781>all this hype and not a single log
Are there any apps, software, or GitHub repos for generating light novel-style narratives? I want to input a story prompt or outline, and have the AI continue writing chapters or paragraph coherently not just single-character roleplay.Tried Mikupad, but it's outdated and doesn't work well with DeepSeek API.
Deepseek 3.2?
I am addicted to AIslop incest ERP with mom characters. The post nut clarity is worse and worse every time, yet I can't stop.I always tell myself that today will be the last time I use that shit and I always hate myself when I do it again because I can feel myself losing control and indulging on that stupid shit anyway.It's not even relaxing anymore, I end up despairing every time despite cumming buckets.I didn't even like mom incest ERP before AIslop became widely available.
>>106747631Where?>>106747744And they're all shitLook at this lmao
>>106747984this is sovl
>>106747984Definitely not worse than 4.1 outputs, opus 3 is clearly better though
>>106747984Damn, pretty good log.
>>106747984The hell do your logs look like that that's slop?
>>106747984vg:https://arch-img.b4k.dev/vg/1759169714001.pnghttps://arch-img.b4k.dev/vg/1759170242288.pnghttps://arch-img.b4k.dev/vg/1759193124387.jpgmlp:https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/mlp/image/1759/16/1759167303971.pnghttps://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42595499/#42615486https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/mlp/image/1759/08/1759086284018.png
>>106747984Better than Opus 3 in my opinion.
>>106747984Claudesissies...
Can someone please give me free Sonnet 4.5 thanks
>>106747820Try offline-nc: https://rentry.org/offline-nc
>>106748082slop
>>106747984>>106748045These are so bad lmao
>>106748045these are all pretty good
>>106748045>only ponyfags logs are goodthe absolute state
>>106748056Agreed.
>claudefags are getting humiliated by their own logs againyou guys really shoulda just stuck to shitting on chink models without posting logs
The biggest issue with 4.1 for me is how rigid the writing style is regardless of bot/preset. Is Sonnet 4.5 better at this? Feels like Claude lost that spark since 3.7
>>106748137yeah, 4.5 is being extremely flexible in its writing for me
>>106747984>>106748045Will Claudecucks ever recover from this?
>>106748137Just ask it to use a different writing style of your choice retard. There are thousands of famous writers in all genres
>>106748045The first two /vg/ logs are quite sloppy.Third is alright for coom. I don't see slop or isms in the /mlp/ logs.
>>106748133agreed, claude is the most overhyped shit in the history of chatbots
OHNONONONO poorfag/scraplet melty
The logs posted are better than any chinklogs I ever saw
>>106748137no
>>106748149Claude shits out the same slop no matter what writing style you insist upon it
>>106748166TRVKE NVKE
>>106748151>blatantly reddit tier prose and humor>I don't see slop or isms in the /mlp/ logs.Just when you thought Claudefags couldn't sink any deeper...
>i dont like claude>hehe you just dont have it bro, melty!when will slopusjeets stop resorting to this?
>>106748205Can you point where?
>>106748082Thanks
now that we all agree that claude is shit, which model will save the hobby? zuck seems to cooking something behind the scenes
We all agree that Claude is great, doe?
>>106748287i have it and its great at being overhyped slop>>106748279glm 4.6 maybe, or whenever deepseek 4 dropszuck already admitted to filtering datasets with llama 3.1 so i dont think hell save shit
>>106748299he's been poaching all the top talent from oai and anthropic
>>106748279llama's dogshit with all those safety rails. useless for erp unless you finetune it, which just dumbs the model into slop.
Its the same everytime a new claude model dropsall these poorfags having a meltie
>>106748369True.
>>106748369Based.
>>106748403>>106748375>>106748369Samekek.
>>106748415
>>106748415why are you falseflagging again?
>>106748365exactlyhttps://arxiv.org/abs/2407.21783literally search "filter", they pretty much remove all the good smut from the dataset already so its doomed to be shitty no matter what
>>106748419>inspect elementNot fooling anyone.>>106748423>pointing out samefagging is falseflagging
>>106748214Someone that simply "doesn't like Claude" isn't gonna rant about it every single day of their lives
>>106748470>inspect element>In less than 30 secondesI wonned
>>106748470*unzips*inspect DEEZ NUTS
Gemini 3 will save this hobby so hard. Get ready for the king
>[model] is good>logs?>here>SLOP SLOP HOLY SLOP WTF SLOPEvery day since 2023.
