1. worse hardware support than FreeBSD2. no jails3. worse performance4. pledge/unveil security theater (easily bypassed by simply starting a new process)
I am a terminal contrarian and Linux is too normalfagged for me.
I'm ngl my autism itch regularly makes me want to buy an old, decrepit Thinkpad or Latitude or worse, install some shitOS on it like OpenBSD or NetBSD, waste a shit ton of time getting it to work, then realize it's shit anyway and go back to my Mac having achieved absolutely nothing except a metric ton of time wasted.
>>106743836cuck license
you have a list of supported hardware, what do you expect?
>>106743949SHUT UP NIGGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>106743836>easily bypassed by simply starting a new processsource?
>>106743949
>>106744062should be right in the documentation (man page or whatever). pledge/unveil do not apply to child processes.
Can you run Wine on BSD?
>>106744112yes
Which bsd shoukd i get if i want a stable easy experience and i liked debian?
>>106744559FreeBSD or if manually installing x and a de/wm sounds hard to you, GhostBSD, which is just FreeBSD made easier.
>>106744559DragonFly BSD
>>106743836This reads like someone who bought into OpenBSD and used it wholeheartedly because of the memes, but then got told off by a deeper memer using something like 9front and now has to hate it to stay cool.
>>106743836No not really. I never switched off a big name OS to use it. I still find it fun. It’s cool and retro with hacker culture and awesome update artwork, but it’s just something to mess around with on a ThinkPad. Or do coding retreats for if you’re John Carmack. /g/irls genuinely trying to integrate OpenBSD and use it as a daily driver are missing the point if you ask me.
>>106744559How about you stay on Debian, which is an actually good OS instead of using A KEKED OS MADE BY KEKS WITH A KEK LICENSE
>>106744895it's server OS
>>106745326Who cares about the license?!If you are running a server, and would like to bring the probability that it will get hacked from 10% per year to 1% per year (depends on what you do, obviously, and how attractive it is as a target), then you should consider FreeBSD over Debian.Also, FreeBSD has ZFS. Debian has BTRFS (still buggy). Its ZFS support is less mainstream.
>>1067438365. no ZFS
>>106743963>you have a list of supported hardwareAnd where, pray tell, is this supposed list? No, not the one in your head, the one in a text file or an html page that you link to with a computer so that other people can read it.Well?
I reckon it's good on a public gateway node OS into a group of interconnected nodes with private IPs. Stick Linux on the private ones. Lock down the public one with OpenBSD
>>106743836BSD is what microdick wincucks think linux is
>>106745793OpenBSD is supported on Thinkpads, because this is what all developers use. Desktops should mostly be supported as long as they do not have NVidia cards. Graphics might be slow.
>>106745793>And where, pray tell, is this supposed listhttps://bsd-hardware.info/This website is good enough to learn about possible quirks
>>106745735Okay I thought you wanted a desktop OS not a server OS. That aside I'm not sure if FreeBSD is actually more "secure" than Debian, the way I see FreeBSDs only selling point is ZFS which I will admit is great and wish the Linux kernel would add more support for it.
>>106746841This is an OpenBSD hate thread. Not a Debian vs FreeBSD thread. But FreeBSD is less likely to be hacked than Debian (it got jails, better kernel code quality, and simply being more niche helps)
>>106746991Strange, I thought OpenBSD was supposed to be the more secure BSD. I never used any BSD OS myself so I wouldn't know.Can BSDfags explain why OpenBSD is shilled for security? what features does it have that supposedly makes it more secure?
>>106744060Best openbsd logo ever made
>>106747035OP here.Its kernel code quality is objectively better. People have measured vulns per 1000 lines of code in different OSesOpenBSD < FreeBSD < Linuxbut you sacrifice A LOT for it. Also it's niche AF, so the chances that someone will try to hack it are quite low (security through obscurity and all that).That said, "no jails" and "pledge/unveil security theater", as mentioned.
>>106745326systemd pedo os lol
>>106747165>pledge/unveil security theaterelaborate
>>106743836Only FreeBSD is worth it. anything else is niche and memePlaystation, Apple and Nintendo use it in their products
>>106743836>>106743852>>106748078OpenBSD is a very good OS. It's just worthless for desktop use.
>>106748059see>>106743836>>106744102
>>106743836wait, no jails? wtf is the point. that's like the defining feature of freebsd, ports and jails
can someone explain why use bsd over linux distros?
>>106748406FreeBSD over Debian:jails, ZFS, better kernel quality, niche (security via obscurity), better but still shitty documentation
>>106748445>security via obscurity
>>106743836If you think that an OS that doesn’t support any kind of OCI container system or an orchestration software such as K8S is a suitable choice for in 2025, then you are a NEET with no real world experience. Nobody uses *BSD in the real world as a server OS, nobody even considers it when they have to set up a new infrastructure and if you do so during a meeting you would be mocked by everyone.
>>106749696Netflix uses FreeBSD for all their servers
>>1067496964chan ran FreeBSD for like 15 years
From what I gather, if you aren't a privacy autist, NetBSD is easily the best of the BSDs:- SUPER portable (this isn't very relevant to most end-users but is a good indicator of how versatile software is, getting a Linux desktop working on a new platform for instance would be a lot harder than doing it for NetBSD, with less dependencies and non-portable code)- Unlike OpenBSD, features aren't arbitrarily removed if they aren't actively developed, thus it has features like binary compatibility with Linux, hardware acceleration, and virtualisation (so you can ACTUALLY use it for games).