Building a SPH PC is probably the most satisfying thing everIt's fucking hard and annoying when you build it but when it all comes together it's incrediblyA tiny box like that but running a full sized graphics card like the 5080 is NICE.A small BEAST that packs POWER.The pricing is annoying though, everythings at a massive premium. Unlike M-ATX, which is super cheap comparetively.
>pay out the ass for microATX and SF power supply>case can't fit most GPU's>shitty case manufacturers will probably short your mobo with bad screw placement>pay out the ass for a PCIE riser>get worse thermal performance anyway for your troubles>all to play the same games as everyone elseI will never understand the tiny PC autists. Why would you unironically pay more for a worse build?
>>106744924These are the audiofools of the hobby
>>106744924Portability is neat. So is desk space.
>>106744924purely aesthetics bro, it looks niceeven MFF cases have come a long way, not as small but definitely small that it fits a full sized psu + full sized card
What's more important? How a computer looks? Or how a computer sounds? You don't look at your case all the time, but you're always listening to it. A zero moving parts machine is more luxurious.
>>106744926>pc on deskshiggy diggy
>>106744926if you're going to thermally choke a system then you may as well do a laptop
>>106744926>spend massive amount of effort to get the equivalent portability benefits and space of an extra 10 bookswowwww tiny apartment bro
>>106744928>A zero moving parts machine is more luxurious.what, mineral oil?surely you're not talking about aio coolers
>>106744924>pay out the ass for microATXYou're already a retardYou either go mITX or full ATXmATX is a pointless compromise
>>106744926>portabilitywhere are you taking a fucking PC?>desk spaceimagine putting your PC on your desk. unironically ngmi.
>>106744928lol its not 2 decades ago, this shits are quiet as fuck
>>106744933>miniITX>microATXmost sff cases can fit both, either way you're gimping yourself compared to a full ATX
>>106744923>Small Penis Humiliation PC
>>106744931>>106744937>300 sqr ft apartment>small pchumiliation ritual
I dont give a fuck about SPH but I do have an penchant for a totally passively cooled PC.with a heatsink large enough there shouldn't need to be a single moving part and that is really neat as fuck to me.
>>106744923I own a house though, I can have both my computer and amplifier on a coffee table next to my desk and still not be troubled for space.
>>106744939modern case fans have great thermal performance with almost no noise. mineral oil or passive radiation cases are a meme for autists like you
>>106744940the better part about house ownership is you can make holes in the walls and then the computer isn't in the same roomno sound, no heat
>>106744924>pay out the ass for microATX and SF power supplynot really>case can't fit most GPU'si have a 3 slot 4090>pay out the ass for a PCIE riserit came with my case (which wasn't very expensive)>get worse thermal performance anyway for your troublesnot really and "worse" is irrelevant when a 4090 and 9800x3d have 0 issues in the case.
>>106744926>So is desk space>have the money to build a super expensive premium computer>somehow doesn't have an adult human sized deskSomething isn't adding up.
>>106744923lol a 4 thousand dollar GPU so now you can play what? indie metroidvanias that run at 240p?
>>106744941>are a meme for autists like youyeah I know, but fans still make noise, I have a fractal torrent with the best air flow money can buy and the 4090 fans still spin up to 100 in some games.but my dream would be to have 50kg of copper with massive fin surface area as a silent sculpture in the corner of my room, with a 5090 and 9950x3d hidden inside.I've done the napkin math before and it's all very possible and achievable just prohibitively expensive.
>>106744946Make the desk an entire copper hint sink.
>>106744923I get what the bit is in this thread. Anyways, I'm looking to upgrade my PC since it's been a few years and wondering if any anons had good recommendations on cooling solutions. I use some Notcua heatsink they don't make anymore.
>>106744947could do, the volume required for ~750w of cooling is about the size of a bar fridge (couple of square feet of fins) so if you got creative you might be able to do it.if I was stupid rich I'd definitely do it.
>>106744942My home has air conditioning and I use speakers, I couldn't give a shit less how much noise my computer makes.
>>106744936>most sff cases can fit bothWrong because it's not SFF unless it's mITX
>>106744950wow you have AIR CONDITIONING? wow I'VE NEVER HEARD OF THAT, i'm SO IMPRESSEDi only have CENTRAL HVAC
>>106744923For me? It's XXL-ATX, with 4x480mm radiators (12x160mm fans).
I like small things, but I hate small PC's. They're a total pain to work with, they get hot, and have shorter upgrade paths. A big full-size ATX PC is the best because you have so much room to work with, it's cooler, and you can buy big GPU's without having to take measurements and worrying about limited space and blocking ports
>>106744952Indeed, so why mention heat as though it's some insurmountable problem or even something that matters at all to anyone outside of a favela?
>>106744924>I will never understand...Pic-rel was my first case.After two cross-country moves I was over it.Being able to toss my PC in a backpack or any checked airline bag or shipping box feels good.Ignoring all the stupid fictional shit you are imagining [SFFPC build guides/YouTube content should really, really do a better job of noting that retards are not welcome builders here], performance is top-notch and the extra $ has never been a concern for those of us with jobs.>>106744925That isn't a fair comparison when SFFPC benefits for the extra $ are tangible, visible things.HiFi audiophile niggers will spend more $ on any given component in their stack than a wholeass top-end SFFPC will cost for no discernable benefit.
>>106744955i mean, why mention acoustic interference not mattering while using the acoustic system that is the most susceptible to acoustic interferencewe're clearly in idiot town here
>mini is smaller than micro
>>106744934People sometimes have to move, anon. And this may blow your mind, but they also may have to move furniture around
>>106744958>nano is bigger than shuffle
So what’s the ideal if you want a small PC? I had a mid range and a full size XL case and now I want a small PC with a Threadripper. What do? Money is no concept. Just don’t want it loud.
Looks cool but I'm lazy as fuck now and have a laptop with a 4090, form factor is even smaller and includes a monitor. Ever since ray tracing died and dlss turned into a pile of ai slop I haven't seen a need to upgrade.
Fuck out of here and back to your containment gulag
>>106744962>laptop with a 4090you have a 4070
>>106744962>laptop with 4090>4090M>MIt's not the same as a dedicated GPU.I was once a laptop pleb and then built a SFF but then I wanted proper parts so I have a normal case. The only reason for SFF is if you travel a lot. These idiots just like it because muh minimalism.
>>106744964I have a 3090ti in my desktop which I haven't turned on in a year.
>>106744965I never said it was the same as a desktop gpu, I use it portable every day. I used to just gamestream from my desktop to my g14 zephyrus 2060 but too many fucking network issues with that shit.
>>106744961IIRC there is no threadripper ITX motherboard. TRX50 only has like 4 boards to choose from in total.
>>106744961MATX + Pic real>can fit a 360mm>can fit up to 430mm in graphics cardjust need to get a good psu, something like the lian li edge will do the trick
>>106744958Ones ITX and the other is ATX
>>106744923I love my meshalicious so much.
Main thing from having my SFF was wondering why more cases don't vertically mount the GPU, like even in ATX it seems more space efficient and puts less strain on the PCIe slot.
>>106744972some full tower cases did experiment with this. They ran into airflow issues, since the fans were jammed up against a panel window. Obviously you could get around this with an open panel e.g. some of these small cases, but it's not ideal for the rest of the components.
>>106744923It is far more satisfying to rackmount things.>Better cable management>Keep network and power equipment in the same place as well>One direction for airflow, so you're not sucking up dust from a carpet>Nothing on your desk>You get to laugh at people getting GPU support brackets, because your GPU is vertical>Still far too expensive>>106744926>Keeping your PC on your desk instead of in a giant steel frameishygddt>>106744942>Make too many holes>You've moved past open plan design and are living in a studio apartment
>>106744954Yeah, I also like seeing people's hobbyist builds, but a few builds ago, I just bought a giant case, this Fractal XL behemoth, and it's just so easy to work with.
>>106744974>rackmount in your closet>drill a duct in the rear emptying into your front yard>install delta fans>neighbors burn down your house oops
>>106744969I have that case and bought this PSUhttps://lian-li.com/product/sp850/Doesn't have to be that small but I'm happy how I installed it at the front of the case, facing out
>>106744923Meanwhile I could barely fit my 420mm aio and 7900xtx into a fuck huge eatx case
>>106744956>>106744959>people have to moveimagine being such a low T faggot you can't pick up and move a real computer to your car and back. Couldn't be me.
>>106744923Bro I don't think that's what SPH stands for
>>106744926>portabilityimagine taking your $2000 pc anywhere.
>>106744981>she doesn't have LAN parties
>>106744979Stop being so obtuse you retarded jackass
>>106744929Zoomers like to put their mid-tower atx case on their desk so they can get side eye raped by RGB all day
>>106744923The concept and idea behind the small penis humiliation PC is actually really cool...who doesn't want a beefy little box that can run any game? Realistically it's going to be hot and loud and expensive and i dont have friends to go nor do i have a reason to make it portable, since i'm in my room 90% of the time..unless i set it up to be couch wide, but that would require a beefier GPU for the wilder screen (TV)
>>106744984I'm a millennial and I have my PC on my dresser alongside my desk. The higher your PC is, the better. PC on the floor will collect so many dustbunnies.
>>106744969>lian li a3 and edgeif you use the edge with that case, it cant intake external air.
>>106744923Couldn't you just buy a laptop like sane people?
I gave my 9700k/2070 rig to my cousin when his PC diedI had one of these laying around and I dropped a $70 RX 6400 into itI think this is just going to be my computer for the rest of my life now, it's not like I play anything except Dolphin and Skyrim
I have a small-form factor PC for international flights.There's very few reasons to need one.
>>106744983>wahhhhh, i have to pick things up and move them around. it's not fair I need a cuck box to make moving easierwhat a retard. I moved dozens of full tower 2000's Dell brick PC's before when the company my dad worked IT for went out of business and I was only like 12 so he roped me into doing his job for him. You can get over yourself. faggot.
This is the case I have for mine. It's a big as a medium sized book.
>>106744937why must PC be big when small PC do same thing as big PC?
>>106744923What's the smallest case that fits a 5090 astral?
>>106744969Fratical cases and their wood pannel design have been a disaster for the human race.
>>106744923I wanted the same and I just bought a laptopbetter thermal performance than any SPH shitbox
>>106744994Probably the Ncase m3 or m2(smaller)check reddit, there's a few builds with it, seems realllllly tight though
what's a good mini pc to hook up to the tv and stream movies/music from? I'm talking close to bare minimum specs without having to buy a closed off chinkbox full of spyware, something that I can tinker with freely
>>106744998just get a chromebook
>>106744998just get a stick or someshiti have a 4k amazon cube that i run all my plex through, works good
>>106744923mATX is good enough for me, been using one ever since moving together. I'm past my LED ricer phase so now I went with the case made by chinaman that has some fake wood in it. I think it looks nice. Yeah probably won't fit a 5090 but I'm not that into gaming anymore.
>>106744999can't swap out parts in a chromebook
>>106745002why do you need to swap out parts for playing movies and music?
>>106745003in case something shits the bed or to expand its storage, please bear with my autism
Man, I wanted an SPH thread.Anyway, these little fag PCs are dumb. If you don't have room for a tower you don't have room for a PC. Those actual mini PCs that are just laptop hardware in a tiny box are nice, useful for portability.
>>106745004just get a new one, chromebooks are like $100-200you don't *need* to swap out partsand if you need extra storage just get external HDDs or NAS
>>106744924but its all I have room for in my cuck shed
>>106744923Every criticism of sff pc’s I’ve heard always boils down to>abloo bloo this lego is 2hardor>abloo bloo not muh extra 2 degrees (72C instead of 70 btw) how will it ever run muh gams
>>106745006I know that you are right, it just doesn't feel like it in my soul
>>106744999chromebook is such a meme. Why would you buy a device that's literally only good for watching youtube when even your fucking phone can do more?
>>106745010>what's a good mini pc to hook up to the tv and stream movies/music from?
>>106745008>go to pcpartpicker.com>the cheapest mITX motherboard is almost double the price of the cheapst ATX motherboardgo be a disingenuous faggot somewhere else
>>106744991>he hates SFF because of daddy issueskekbut really, I feel for you anon. Nobody should get forced into doing their parents' job because the adults can't handle doing adult shit.
>>106744924i did it once out of curiosity and i'm never ever doing it again. it works fine, it's just so fucking annoying to build and maintain, and there's no advantages it's still just a black fucking rectangle standing under the desk
>>106745008>hardware heating over 55CNGMI
>>106745012>being poor
>>106744937Pretty much this.
>>106744926you're better off just buying a bigger house and a bigger table
>>106744954This but m-ATXnormal ATX is rather pointless since we're no longer need to buy separate PCIE soundcard/WLAN card
>>106744923I like having picrel for my home server, was just weird that while you can have 6 hdds in there most (if not all) itx mobos only have 4 sata ports
Bros I need to replace my S3 metalfish, which is currently holding an extra SSD and my 193mm long Sapphire RX 6600, with something that can also fit another 3.5 HDD. Any recs?
>>106744940Based and same I have two industrial fans as well
>>106745605>actual car seat for driving simbased
>>106744989with that i5 gen 3? are you sure? why not Dell Optiplex with Ryzen 5 instead?
I still go to lanparties and I wanted to build a tiny PC that would be easy to carry, but after finding out about the SFF tax, I may as well settle for MicroATX.
>>106744929>>106744934it's not called a floortop now is it
>>106744924I want something small an unobtrusive that will fit on my desk... But I haven't built yet for basically the reasons you state. As much as I want it, all that extra money could go to a more powerful computer in some cheap shit $30 mid-tower case lol.
>>106744934I move my pc back and forth between my desk and the tv in the living room
>>106745605Based. My chair is kinda shit with the load cell brakes. Maybe I'll upgrade.
>>106744953i only have 3 480mm rads with 28 fans :(>>106746745based and assetto + mx5 cup car pilled
>>106744923>The pricing is annoying though, everythings at a massive premium
>>106744923my "SFF" (ish) Node 304 has 6 x 3.5" HDDmore than 99% of big tower fags
>>106745424some older itx boards had 6 sata but now almost none have 6but the case is quite old, like 13 years
>>106748007>this is /g/ not /v/especially funny since this thread was on /v/ before the mods moved it
>>106744991Moving a pc back and forth was never an issue for me, I just like having an ITX pc (Jonsbo NV10). If anything you just sound like a bitch who cannot fathom other people enjoying different things. Just because that thing is outside of your "use case".
>>106744953>mfw the plebs have less than 2 PC's in their case
