I will never forgive Apple for this jewish actFuck you and fuck the sheep for defending it
just use bluetooth bro. getting the wire snagged on everything is annoying they sound the same anyway except one doesn’t have wires
>>106764227Kys sheepBluetooth headphones are fine but i want the option They removed the option purely out of greed
>>106764241Some ppl like paying for an extra chonky accessory so they can charge their phone and listen to music at the same time. I call them retards.
>>106764318i dont really mind not being able to charge and listen but i do mind carrying around a little fragile adapter just to use headphones when previously i could just plug them in
i never thought about this until now:the people who refuse to use wireless earbuds also get mad at using a dongle because you can't charge your phone at the same timeso not only can they not keep wireless buds charged, they can't keep their phone chargedare these people foids?
>>106764343women love airpods though
>>106764343My phone is always dead from gooning on Reddit all day, every day.
>>106764349so these people are worse at keeping their technology charged than foids?
>>106764227I like using IEMs.
Iphone speaker is good enough, no need for headphones.
>>106764496yea just blast music in public
>>106764511Don't listen to music in public, it's rude.
>>106763755Just use a good quality dongle. If you think Apple's is shit (it's ok) then get something else
>>106764496Clearly you've never heard a pair of actually decent speakers. Even your generic brand android phones have speakers that shit all over the iPhone's. If your idea of "good enough" is that it produces sound at all, then I guess so anon...
>>106764528I have the opposite experience, my android speaker sounds much worse than iphone speaker.
>>106764528iphone speakers past 7 where they turned stereo have been pretty damn gooddefinitely better than good enough but obviously nothing insane
>>106764528name 5 android phones that sound better than the 17 pro
>>106764532>>106764543>>106764553They sound un-naturally forward in the mid range frequencies, makes voices sound really nasally compared to other phone speakers. while phone speakers will never have good bass, but the iPhone's is a cut worse to my ear if you even hear it at all.
>>106763755I don't even charge my phone with a cable anymore, I only use MagSafe. Just get their USB C DAC, it's objectively the best DAC out there for phones anyway.
>>106764579name 5 android phones that sound better than the 17 pro
>>106764579idk i always had my iphone friends play music on their phones rather than my midrange androids throughout the years simply because they sound better Maybe flagship androids are better
>>106763755Just buy a chinkphone, many still have it.
>>106764605I use the iphone se
>>106763755you know what else is retarded about this? the fucking left grills dont do shiT!!!!
>>106764733you don't understand they had to make room for the uhhh
>>106764820microphone, taptic engine, battery, antennas,
>>106764911https://youtu.be/utfbE3_uAMA
>>106764936>iphone 7this is like using the iphone 16 as justification for the argument you can add a sim card tray to iphone 17 and airyou cannot add a headphone jack to current iphones because there is no room
>>106763755Use USB-C earbuds.
>>106764343>you can't charge your phone at the same timeyou can modern iphone support wireless charging
>>106765090yeah i know i use magsafe everything personally, but these people are autistic luddites who hate anything new
>>106765090>>106765106and to add to this, i use my magsafe charger for my airpods too, two birds with one stone
>>106764332Look at it this way. The dongles are cheap and take all the damage instead of your headphones.
>>106764605based, droid jeets seething
>>106765328Look at it this way. Suck my entire crusty asshole
>>106764605>Euro version is volume-limitedkwab
>>106763755My shitty walmart phone I just got has a headphone jack and 5g. It seems model iterations have a headphone and non-headphone version
>>106763755The craziest thing from this entire thing wasn't that Apple removed the 3.5mm jack. Is that anyone followed suit.I remember thinking when i first read about Apple removing the jack, "This will really bite them in the ass, Samsung will capitalize on this mistake." Right? This is the free market and the jack will prove a huge advantage to Samsung and others. Customers will probably demand Apple bring back the jack after it flops massively. Right? See pic related, nothing happens, people still buy any new phone slop they can get that will be obsolete in 1.5 years and the expensive Bluetooth earbuds, no question asked.Serves me right for being so naive I guess.
>>106766950Because they’re looking at the whole market, not a few autists. A bit more room for battery, speakers, whatever it is, makes for a better package to advertise broadly than “well we still have the audio port most of you don’t use”
>>106767109>A bit more room for battery, speakers, whatever it is, makes for a better package to advertise broadly than “well we still have the audio port most of you don’t use”Yeah, lol. That's why they slit each others throats every year they made a new model that's 0.0001mm thinner and can't go longer than a day without a charge, because they saved that 3.5mm jack space for a battery. They don't care about room for battery or anything else.
>>106766950the margins on these wireless buds must be insane
>>106763755
>>106764227>They sound the same anyway. Holy fuck lmao.
>>106767143>Yeah, lol. That's why they slit each others throats every year they made a new model that's 0.0001mm thinnerexactly. you're so close to getting it
>>106764343I think it's more likely that they just haven't really bought a new phone in 9 years (when apple removed the 3.5mm jack).They probably don't even realize that modern smartphones don't charge at 2.5-5watts anymore. Phones used to take a couple hours to recharge (iphones still did until 2024 lmao), but now many chinkphones can recharge to 80% in like half an hour.
>>106764227>they sound the same anywayEven if they did (they don't), even the lowest latency codecs introduce noticeable delay. Bluetooth is bearable for music, but a no go for anything audiovisual.
>>106763755Their audio out was shit quality anyway. It sounded worse than their middling yet acceptable USB-C dongle.
>>106767374>even the lowest latency codecs introduce noticeable delayNot to mention Apple doesn't even support those.
The real joke is USB 2.0 in 2025. These phones are known for their cameras, practically M43 level performance, stabilized video - and you can't transfer the files off of the device? 5gig USB 3.0 came out nearly TWENTY YEARS AGO.I don't understand the constant bitching about a USB-C to 3.5mm DAC dongle that adds no weight and no length, costs $10, and sounds better than most on board 3.5mm jacks in the first place.
>>106767958>and you can't transfer the files off of the device?bro? just upload to your icloud or share wirelessly to your macbook pro?
>>106767958>a USB-C to 3.5mm DAC dongle that-*snaps your usb-c ports*nothing personal kid
>>106767978thisonce you forgo the concept of knowing what a file is or how it gets there you're free.
>>106767986personnel
>>106768118nuttin personnel or nothin personalNot nothin personnel
>>106763755So buy something else? What has you troubled there, champ? That extra chromosome?
I have a decent pair of sennheiser bt headphones and it still pisses me off that I don't have 3.5mm in my phone. I'm also pissed that you spend $1000 for a new smartphone and it doesn't come with a charger brick
>>106769572>What has you troubled there, champ?The amount of stupid brands following what they did, limiting one's choice to get something else. There's like one flagship left with a jack.
>>106764511Let me guess, you need more?
>>106767143phones don't need to last longer than a day because everyone sleeps at night
>>106764227amazing bait
>>106769612Holy shit that thing is sick, I assume it costs a small fortune to buy now
>>106769612>>106770473Found one for $650 on Reverb, probably not going to get it
>>106768020ignorance literally is bliss
>>106763755>remove port>still keep side buttons>make phone super slim, but keep thickass cameraTheir minimalistic style is so hypocritical and dumb.
>>106766821Eu citizens will be able to hear past their 40s. How cruel.
>>106764227 (You)
>>106770803>remove [thing no one wants]>keep [thing everyone wants]
>>106763755What's worse is Samsung for first making fun of Apple, telling people that they keep the headphone jack, and then following in Apple's footsteps anyway by removing it.Never forget. https://youtu.be/wQ4ys-R1B_8?t=48(Rewatching this it's also refreshing to see a commercial that doesn't promote racemixing for once.)
>>106766950Yeah I got more pissed at Samsung since they used "we still have the headphone jack" in marketing. You can't really blame Apple people for being tricked by the whole "it's brave to cheap out on features" thing.
>>106773487it's 1/3 the thickness
>>106773517First of all that doesn't matter, second you're being tricked by them making the edge look thinner but then it grow in thickness further in (look at the gaps between the laptops).
>>106767109except the sony xperia 1 vi/vii both have a 3.5mm jack and have just as big of a battery and are water resistant like the iphone 17 pro max
>>106773543i want my laptop as thin as possible and i dont need more than 2 usb c ports
>>106773606if there's one thing i know it's that it's impossible to get an apple person to change his mind so i will just say ok
>>106773543>>106773635>Apple MacBook – Late 2006*>Height: 1.08" (2.74cm)>Apple 13-inch MacBook Air with M3>Height 0.44" (1.13cm)You're wrong, brown and poor.
>>106773671calculate 2.74 / 3i hear that apple just recently added calculator to ipad so maybe you'll be able to
>>106773693>ERM AKSHULLY ITS ONLY 2.4 TIMES AS THICKpoorbrownmadwrong
>>106773718maybe don't bring numbers to prove that i'm wrong that actually proves that i'm right and it's not 1/3 the thickness.fucking apple people man.
>>106764343Because it's a fucking retarded move just to save 5 cents and make the phone 1 or 2mm max thinner
>>106764227bluetooth is satanic
>>106773730you can't afford a macbook and you are nitpicking whether a new macbook is 1/3 or 1/2.4 times as thick as another>>106773746then why did their sales increase after removing the headphone jack
>>106773754>can't affordit's a lot better than that, i don't need to get one. ever. why pay more for less when i don't need to?>then whynew sheeple are born every day and people from 3rd world countries get access to phones>>106773746a little more thickness would also support a thicker battery, but apple people prefer their devices to get sneaky downgrades in performance over time instead so the batteries last the same duration.
>>10677378317 pro and pro max have phenomenal battery life in part because they made them thicker than the last models.You are poor and brown and are speaking about products you will never even touch.
>>106773754>then why did their sales increase after removing the headphone jack1. It's still a status symbol2. More people in the world can afford it. The exact same reason why video games have gone down the shorter yet record sales are made and why Zelda is doomed go be shit post BOTW3. The goy have been successfully convinced that less options = good when people who have a clue (always the minority) know that this is bullshit.
>>106773850>apple makes them thinner and sticks worse batteries in because they're thinner>ummmm ackshully they made this year's model thicker and the better is better because of it????????
>>106773874iphones have been steadily getting thicker with improved battery lifethis whole thread of seethe by you could've been avoided if you spent 20 seconds on apples comparison website
>>106773964Congratulations for proving >>106773783Correct? I don't understand what point you're trying to make
>>106773972correcting someone's mistake isn't 'making a point'his argument is based on a false premise, i am not making an argument
>>106773517That's supposed to be a good thing?
>>106773993His claim is if the phone is thicker, the battery would be betterYou are saying that recent phones are getting thicker, and battery life is improving.Therefore thicker phones = better battery life
>>106774017>a little more thickness would also support a thicker battery>would>but apple people prefer their devices to get sneaky downgrades in performance over time instead so the batteries last the same duration.>butlearn english ranjeet
>>106763755vote with your wallet (buying new phones with headphone jacks, not old flagships that still had them (not like you have much of a choice at this point lol)), but also keep shaming retards for paying more for less.
>>106774032You are retarded and project your browness on others.
>>106774060just take the Liphones have been getting thicker and bigger batteries as a general trend for the last 10 yearsyou would know this if you actually owned them, you don't, because you are poor, and brown
>>106774086You are retarded and brown. You lack reading comprehension.
I use IEMs plugged into a bluetooth DAC to get both the wired and wireless experience
>>106773850>>106774032you're actually an idiot. an apple idiot.>>106773874lulz
>>106773850>You are poor and brownApple doesn't exactly market themselves to wealthy white people, lmfao
>>106774616>Africa: Android - 87.81%, iOS - 10.94%.
>>106774629That just shows that Apple is so shit that most people are wise enough to not touch it.You think Apple can use 80% blacks in all their ads and promotional material and still keep their reputation intact?
>>106763755More like fuck Scamsung for making fun of it then removing the headphone jack tooThey were supposed to fight back against it
>>106774675
>>106764227My mixing console doesn't have Bluetooth.
>>106774722damn that really does suck for the -three- people in the entire world who want to daily drive an iphone and a mixing console but refuse to get a $29 magsafe charger
>>106773858not specifically defending Apple but there is the somewhat intended side effect of their being more and higher quality wireless audio devices available. I know that for extreme high quality wired is still the best/only way, however for general use wireless is more convenient and sufficient
My phone is seven years old. Are there any modern phones that still have headphone jacks?
I used to care, hell my expensive phone I bought last year has a jack but I never used itIf I want a premium audio experience I use my pcI've switched to bone conduction Bluetooth headphones with my phone and the convenience makes me wear those things most of the dayThey literally can't fall off and I can listen to shit for hours
>>106775143no, because any phone with outdated shit like a headphone jack is not modern by definition just buy an iphone and airpods, the only thing you'll regret is not buying them sooner
>>106775143Redmagics come with jacks stillThey're expensive gaymer phones though
>they still can't hear any song they want whenever they want without a technological assistantthey're not gonna make it...
This would be a non issue if Bluetooth earbuds lasted 24 hours on a single charge without putting then back in the case and yet they've been capped at 3 hrs playback for the past decade while phones get all the new battery tech.
it's probably the cheapest fucking thing apple ever sold and it's still fucking $9 in 2025 specifically for luddite retards like op and they're still whiningI guess luddite retards aren't good with technology
>>106774692so more brownies need they iphone, that's your point>>106775365they could at least make that thing 1 meter long for that price so you can have it just be a cord down to the floor and then you plug in your audio jack down there, but no it is short as fuck so you clog up your desktop
>>106775405>for that priceit's nine dollarsit's the same price as a fast food burger you stuff you fat fucking face with every daystop whining for one moment
>>106775506i dont think they have fast food burgers in his indian shithole and if they do they are 100k rupees
removing the 3.5mm jack made usb-c dacs cheaper and more common which drives earphones much better than having the jack in previous phones. So honestly i think it worked out.
>>106775556>removing the 3.5mm jack made usb-c dacs cheaper and more commonthis is wrong statement due to the timelinethe luddites might have had a *part* of a point before when iphones still used lightning portit did work out as you say, but apple removing jack and apple being forced to use usbc were unrelated events
>>106775580apple made the usb-c dac before they were required to put usb c charging ports on their phones
>>106775872but way after they dropped the jack
>>106775900they had a lightning dac when they dropped the headphone jack, it even shipped with the phones at the time.
>>106775919he has never owned an iphone he wouldn't know that
>>106764227Engaging in the normal world and then coming back to /g/ and seeing the seethe for normal opinions is so confounding. I remember when I was all in on the /g/ memes and how much of a shitty experience it was lmao. Going from messing with Freezer or YouTube Vanced and /g/ approved headphones to AirPods and a music subscription is what opened my eyes to 4chan being sour grapes. And no I'm not that one moderator who's name begins with the letter after I.
>>106767331>I think it's more likely that they just haven't really bought a new phone in 9 years (when apple removed the 3.5mm jack).Nope it is even more stupid. They bought even more IPhones instead of switching to phones that still had a headphonejack.
>>10677599290% of the things these android using indians complain about with apple products has been fixed or changed.like they probably think there's no files app, or that you have to sync with itunes
>>106774195Seems like you get mostly the negativ parts of both worlds for a slight increase in quality.