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asking for a friend.

what is the current state of linux on arm laptops?
what is the latest and greatest with top notch hardware support?

only the best stuff please.
hard mode: no tinkering except installing OS
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windows 11
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>>106768264
what arm laptop is best?
snapdragon elite?
apple?
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how is Asahi linux on the mac?
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>>106768239
ARM is a meme.
Neither Windows or Linux work properly on it.
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>>106768295
the apple M chips shit on the snapdragon chips. Microsoft is not there yet.
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>>106768295
The snapdragon processors themselves can boot Linux but apparently the driver support for the laptops is abymsal. I don't know if it's gotten better since I last checked but I haven't seen ads for new snapdragon laptops anymore and I suspect they'll just stop getting made and nobody will write Linux drivers for them as the platform becomes irrelevant. Probably better off trying to hack together a laptop-ish case for a Raspberry Pi.
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>>106768239
This is the top ARM Linux laptop on the market today.
It comes preinstalled with Linux (ChromeOS is a fork of Gentoo Linux)
This machine has:
16 GBs of RAM
3nm 8 big core CPU
ARM Immortalis G925 11 core GPU
50 TOPS NPU to run local models
No notch
Physical camera shutter
256 GBs of UFS storage
WiFi7
1920x1200 OLED touchscreen
2.7 lbs
$749
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>>106768725
How is the battery life?
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>>106768769
20hrs battery life
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Second best is this. The Acer Chromebook Plus Spin 514
It has the same CPU, the primary differences are:
12GBs RAM
A 3:2 LCD 120hz display
360 hinge with USI stylus support
Slightly heavier at 2.9lbs
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Personally, I prefer the Lenovo. It has more RAM, lighter, better port placement.
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>>106768239
Depends on what you want out of it. I bought a Lenovo IdeaPad 3 Flex Chromebook to use as a basic laptop for word processing, some web browsing and as a video player when i go on holidays. It still required a ton of tinkering to get Debian on it but it works well enough. Vulkan support from drivers is coming soon™ but OpenGL still works fine.

https://github.com/hexdump0815/linux-mainline-on-arm-chromebooks
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>>106768725
There is also a lighter/cheaper version of this chromebook. It has 8GBs RAM, 128GBs storage, no touchscreen, and weighs 2.5lbs, for $649.
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>>106768295
Snapdragon relies on proprietary drivers that only work in Windows.
You can run Linux on them but it's very inefficient so slower and using more battery.

>>106768416
The upcoming Snapdragon X2 Elite Extreme is faster than the M4 Pro

>>106768454
>I haven't seen ads for new snapdragon laptops anymore and I suspect they'll just stop getting made

There will be new laptops with Snapdragon X2 chips soon.
Reviewers have already tried some and they are very fast and energy efficient.
They might still be a flop but the hardware seems very capable.

>nobody will write Linux drivers for them
That is true because Qualcomm doesn't allow it.
I think they are too worried others will steal their virtualization layer.
It will be Windows only, not even any proprietary Linux drivers.
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>>106769396
>The upcoming Snapdragon X2 Elite Extreme is faster than the M4 Pro
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>>106769438
I will wait for the Ultra Mega Elite Extreme Super
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>>106769438
>GPU benchmark
Oh please.
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What's the point of arm? X86-64 already cought up to it in power consumption.
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>>106769924
arm is buttery smooth
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>>106768305
m1 and m2 you get most functionality. 3 and 4 still aways to go.
The issue with arm I feel like is more software compatibility, not the operating system.
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>>106768725
>ChromeOS is a fork of Gentoo Linux
No it isn't. Google just uses portage to package the binaries on their servers, nothing about chromeOS proper is actually forked from gentoo.
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>>106770625
I'm grateful Apple went to arm, because now lots of software is shipped for arm as a result
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>>106770646
ChromeOS has a linux kernel, it is Linux. It runs linux apps in the crostini container. It also runs Android apps, as Android is also Linux.
You can navelgraze about Gentoo all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that ChromeOS is Linux.
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>>106770663
I didn't say it isn't linux, in fact, I even quoted the exact part of your post I negated. You being a retard that can't read is a (you) problem.
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>>106769815
this is not even the m4 pro chip listed there but the regular m4. I got the m4 pro chip 14/20, would like to see how that compares
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>>106769815
https://wccftech.com/m4-pro-beats-snapdragon-x2-elite-extreme-in-synthetic-gpu-benchmarks/
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>>106770601
Is it blazing fast though?
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>>106771467
It's blazing and buttery man, blazing butter.
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I can't decide between the Kompanio Ultra Chromebook or an SD+ Windows laptop.
I'm sick of the fan noise on my "gaming" laptop.
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>>106768239

Debian is a very stable system and has a very broad package manager, I recommend you to use it but if you want a challenge for the future you can try to use Arch or Slackware
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>>106768355
windows works well, actually
>>106768725
>16GB
my snapdragon x elite T14s g6 shits on it.
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>>106768239
apparently xiaomi pad 6 work well with mainline linux
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>>106769924
6 watt 4 core N100 vs 6 watt 8 core RK3588. I know which one I'd prefer
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I bought nvidia memeputer and its arm64 running ubuntu

From my entire experience of fiddling about with it for two months I suspect the main problem is that you'll be locked into a rare package distribution channel hosted by manufacturer's club. Like one third of stuff wont work because you'll run into a dependency that wasnt ported to arm64 because it is "depreciated" or whatever the soft language is for not enough people give a fuck.
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I'm more impressed windows users can allegedly daily drive arm machines without problems. But something tells me my statement is not actual reality.
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>>106776038
Do they ship with working UEFI or is it all some autistic das uboot + custom (or kernel upstreamed) devicetree?
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>>106776080
I have no idea what half of those words mean but no it doesn't have an uefi and it has a nonstandard ubuntu assembly, which I assume is needed for it to at least boot out of the box. I dont know if it would run any arm64 linux.
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>>106768921
LMFAO
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>>106776038
>I bought nvidia memeputer and its arm64 running ubuntu
Yeah, I had one of those. I bought the OG Jetson TK-1 for $199. I should have bought NVDA with that instead. Anyway, I learned the reason to never buy NVidia hardware like that is because of what you mention. You're stuck on whatever kernel they give you, because nothing else will have gpu drivers. You're really never going to be able to say current with security patches and whatever.

It also means all the edge compute stuff people are building out with these devices have gotta be horribly insecure after just a couple years time. No matter how good the hardware specs look, I stay away.



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