second for nobody has ever read the eq guide

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>>106770050
Fake news chud.

>>106770063
wow 6k people opened the page just to not read the guide, impressive

/iemg/ Dogma Check
Tired of the hivemind? Here’s your prescribed sanity dose:

>Crinacle is not your priest.
Rankings are a guide, not divine scripture. Your ears > his spreadsheet.

>Harman ≠ perfect.
It’s a preference curve, not a law of physics. Some genres need deviation.

>Chi-Fi isn’t magic.
Great value, yes. Immune to qc issues and hype cycles? Nah.

>Graphs are not sound.
They don’t show staging, dynamics, or fit. Use your ears, not just squigs.

>BA ≠ metallic, DD ≠ perfect.
Implementation matters more than driver type. Always has.

>Meme sets aren’t the whole hobby.
If it’s not shilled 24/7, it might still be good. It's highly encouraged to form an original opinion.

>Disagreeing ≠ cope or deaf.
Let people like what they like without foaming at the mouth.

>Loud posts =/= smart takes.
Confidence without experience is just noise. Show graphs, impressions, or both.


This has been your scheduled break from pos groupthink.

>>106770098
Chatgpt lost.

/iemg/ Physiognomy Check

Tired of the hivemind? Here’s your weekly sanity dose:

>Airpods/Cheapshit TWS/Stock buds
Too common to really make a good prediction, ranges from the average beta normalfag to alpha chads with chiseled jawlines.
>KZ, cheap Moondrop, years old FOTM pos, Cringicle collabs, Crinear
Balding and likely a redditor, moderately ugly, recessed chin. Unibrow, acne. Probably feminist and a simp for onlyfans whores. Least threatening "male". Often Indian.
>Truthear, Tanchjim, Softears, other less popular chinkshit and etymotic + smaller influencer collabs
Seriously ugly freaks, might have one standout feature like bug eyes or asymmetrical nose, negative canthal tilt is a given. High pitched or feminine voice, repulsive to almost all women.
>Customs/Expensive Western brands
Frail faggot hipster, somehow has rapey vibes yet is overpowered by the average woman. Male feminist. Think DMS archetype.
>Moondrop/Tanchjim/EPZ/CVJ with art on the side
These are the ugliest incels imaginable, the truest of trucels. Strange vocal tics, unnatural gait, and unbelievably ugly. They look deformed and monstrous to any normal person and have fucked up fetishes normies couldn't even imagine. Either freakishly thin or morbidly obese.
>BlueKAKA, Artti R6, SGOR, extremely cheap shitty offbrand chink pos
Small and short, built like goblins with a face to match. Very often fat, brown and the definition of untermensch. Horrific stench emanates up to 5 meters.
>Expensive SEAnigger pos
Fat ricecels with tiny beady eyes and poor vision. They often look inbred and their accents make women flee. One can assume they eat a lot and Asian eating habits are disgusting already, but their pig like countenance amplifies the effect.

>>106770104
this isn't your echo chamber. sad, but no getting around it.

>>106770117
1 measurement.

Posting again here in the new thread.

What's a good "budget" PMP?
I looked at things like the hifi walker H2 (non touch) and the surfans F20.

I would prefer a non touch variant.

I "need":
- Play from folder capability, I like to organize my music.
- Bluetooth capability, better codec is a plus.

I will primarily use it wired but I'd like the option to use it wireless also.
I will primarily drive IEMs and oldschool gear like the Porta Pros for the nostalgia. May even try a "nicer" headset in the future.

Any hidden gems that anyone know about?
Any pro/cons of the models i named above?

I'm open to suggestions.
I'm not an audiophile, but I can tell the difference when something is lower than 320Kbit and if a BT codec is lower than LHDC if I listen really closely.

>>106770147
shanling up6

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what looks better, solid black with pearl white faceplate or translucent black with pearl white faceplate?

>>106770160
both look better than having some ugly furry on it

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>>106770160
Fox.

lol get rekt shouldve samefagged faster

>>106770160
translucent is always cooler

>>106770151
Just had a quick glance at it now, looks good, I'll take that one into the pool that I choose from.
Thank you!

>>106770160
translucent hands down

>>106770189
that's not a full player, it's a bluetooth dacamp. no idea why the guy suggested it

>>106770200
>using pmps to begin with
get a load of this retard

>>106770147
shanling m0 pro

>>106770098
>Some genres need deviation.
You mean some albums need deviation. The mastering of the song is far more important than the genre to know if a different frequency response will be more pleasant or not.

>>106770222
bc of trips, lemme smoke on that and get back to you

>>106770200
Oh shit, it is.

if you're not using dongles you might as well go back to headpos

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After a little over a year of owning Tangzu Wan'er, my right piece has become noticeably more quite than the left one. I'm compensating the volume loss with equalizer, but it still sounds kinda off.
Is there anything comparable to Wan'ers or even better at the same price range these days? I really liked them, and might grab another pair, just curious about the new stuff.

>>106770568
anything else will clog just like your waners did
you need to solve clogging issue first
>Is there anything comparable to Wan'ers or even better at the same price range these days? I really liked them, and might grab another pair, just curious about the new stuff.
waner2, bunny dsp, gate, kbear kb01

Thoughts on the Ziigaat Lush? Worth $120?

>>106770222
>more important than the genre
yet every device in the last 30 years with eq has entire stock libraries of genre-specific presets.

>>106770568
KZ AM16 are better (competes on the $40 level instead of the $10-$20 level).

>>106770704
>yet every device in the last 30 years with eq has entire stock libraries of genre-specific presets.
Doesn't mean it's correct.

>>106770568
>>106770624
Personally I like gate slightly better than wan’er but they’re close. With triple flange or otherwise deep insertion they push the resonance peak further back to cancel the dip at 9-10khz and become GOATed. I would try maybe those tang sancai narrows they seem like good tips with deeper insertion they should work well.

>>106770704
And they've always been completely useless.

>>106770704
and yet every pair of phones in the last 30 years were tuned to the songs of their era

>>106770697
eh maybe

the only solace to the existence of peqdb/squig and chartspammers is that their data is all completely worthless because they're all at least 1-2 revisions behind and have no basis in reality. the EQ guide wins by default.

>>106770704
>has entire stock libraries of genre-specific presets
yeah and all of them are garbage.
you only need one tuning - your HRTF+preference

>>106770720
>Doesn't mean it's correct.
neither do the baity, piss-poor takes.
>>106770793
>they've always been completely useless.
for decades. across every major brand and implementation of a usable eq. lol
>>106770814
thanks for proving my point. genre-based and you somehow thought that was a rebuttal

>>106770856
>for decades. across every major brand and implementation of a usable eq. lol
there's no real argument for per genre EQ

>simzo uses stock per genre EQs
What brain eating amoeba from used IEMs does to a motherfucker.

>>106770845
gay

EQ guide: 18264695
Chart-posting jeets: 0

I'm going to track guidezo down to his parents' apartment and offer to pay for her HRT on my debit card.

>>106770160
depends on how cute you are

>>106770939
Are you really for real seething and talking about trannies all the time unprompted because head related transfer function is abbreviated to HRTF?
like... is the irony of the situation completely lost on you or?

>>106770956
lol

>>106770926
same people

>>106770966
EQ guide reads nothing like ESL, it 100% reads white hikikomori without a father in the home. If it were jeet-authored, it'd confidently go into even more grandiose claims, be half as long and not go into in-depth comprehension of topics that don't really need explanation. Jeets are natural-born skids who just want a magic wand to look cool. EQ guide is full improvise adapt overcome. That kind of adamant unstoppable chip-on-my-shoulder winter warrior will only belongs to one demographic.

>>106771046
jeets aren't necessarily ESL you know
and it reads exactly like a pseudointellectual jeet trying to flex his knowledge

>>106771190
even if it is pseudointellectual flex it's still not wrong

>>106771201
sadly nobody has read it to confirm

>>106771221
I did and I confirmed it

>>106771229
liar

>>106771190
Jeets sound exactly like their youtube videos in writing. It just doesn't match EQ guide. The detail is all real. Jeets just don't care.
Also a jeet wouldn't give a single fuck about their identity being public. That alone invalidates the jeet theory.

>>106771243
i dont watch jeet videos so ill just take your word for it
but it is still spiritually brown

>>106770147
I'm happy with a used Tempotec V1 I bought. It is a touch screen, but a responsive one, and has all the other features you mentioned.

>>106771239
I'm the only honest person in the whole thread

>>106771403
lies

Shanling ME600 has a weird graph with many peaks and valleys in the upper frequencies. And yet, it has lots of super positive reviews. Everyone says "it slams". So should I pay $220 for it (on sale from $320)?

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replaced the battery in my fuze +
I did a terrible job, the cables look like they're barely stuck to the solder and could break off at any moment, but it works

>>106771450
>$220 pos

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>>106771450
saved by the q1pro rule

>>106771596
genuinely if the q1 pro didn’t have that 5khz peak it’d be pretty GOATed ngl

>>106771621
what do you mean its already goated, which is why all pos tuned as good or better than it are super goated

>>106771596
The Shanling looks way better on the graph tho. More bass and less ear rape.

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>>106770172
to be fair, for a furfag the room's pretty clean. I would've expected it to be some horrifyingly disgusting trash heap troll hole.

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oh shit oh fuck i paid $4.70/pc on 5 e-wastes

>>106772084
he just doesnt have money to buy a lot of stuff, but ask him about his floor and walls, shit looks out of silent hill

>>106771403
post hand

>>106772233
>blon in 2025
wow an OG!

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tbf I dont give a shit about iems anymore, speakers are just superior

>>106772479
only if your room acoustics are perfect, they aren't

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>>106772534
they are better than any iem thats for sure, especially that epz you hear while dilating

>>106772479
unironically skill issue

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>>106772596
thanks bro I used it for >>106772091

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>>106772585
>let me tell you why im a real woman
>let me tell you why my 20$ e-waste sound better than actual hifi gear
kek

>>106772479
only poors make it a big deal, you can't bring your speakers outdoors or diff rooms on the fly, shitty ilouds can't go deep in the bass so you need a sub, and you can't blast them at night... ii you know how to eq iems are just cozy

>>106772602
what's stopping you from just EQing? Use your speaker set up and just do it

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>>106772602
actual hifi gear is drugs and picrel

ruskie you live in a shitty kruschevka ofc you have a bad room for speakers XD

>>106772621
speakerfags can't get much more bass from EQ alone, they need more gear than their amazonbasics usb-powered pc speakers or whatever that is in his pic

noob question... but why doesn't 5128 have ear channel resonances like 711 does? Are they damping it? shouldn't peaks be sometimes introduced into measurements to emulate how average human will hear it? because like you are getting them no matter what not showing them or how insertion depths is moving them around is kinda misleading?

>>106772613
iems get fatiguing since its just pressurized air blasting your ear, a speaker envelopes your room with sound and is a very soothing experience

>needs subwoofer
I guess? but im not much of a basshead, and even if you boost 10db of subbass on an iem, the ilouds are still much more visceral

>>106772663
measurements are a meme, it's all regional/racial differences determining what the IEM will sound like. chink harman isn't US harman, etc.

and even when your measurements are somehow correct, it's still 1 or 2 revisions late

>>106772660
I think its crin approved best budget speakers
https://youtu.be/1Tk9eqtgHF8
which is kinda ironic especially because he's acting as if it's not some poorfag shit

>>106772686
it doesn't answer the question tho

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The new S12 Ultra looks kind of interesting. But I think it's the same driver as in the regular S12, so you're paying double for better tuning. Still worth it?

>>106772855
>Still worth it?
no

Tea Pros for $250, yes or no? Only three hours left on the offer.

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Just saw Audio Amigo has posted the FR for the soon to be released MK12 Turris x Ducbloke.

Personally as someone who enjoys relaxed tunings, this looks almost too relaxed for me.

>>106772855
>>106773068
fucking include targets to your fucking graphs retards

>>106772714
>confuses size with budget
Mega ESL pagpag momento, for the price of ilouds you can get shitty but massive JBL's o algo.

But hey I didnt know crin recognized their value, good for him

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>>106773101
Sorry, amigo.

>>106773101
>include targets
not necessary

>>106773333
delet this

>>106773162
they are like $200 lol that's budget tier for speakers

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>>106772534
Retard take
May as well argue that you can't enjoy IEMs unless your ear canals are exact matches of the measuring rigs that the IEMs were tuned for

>>106773470
it's even worse than that, and I've said this before: the measuring rig doesn't even match the race of the manufacturer

>>106773470
that's retarded because the sound is isolated to an infinitesimally smaller space than a room regardless of your ear shape

>>106772714
They are objectively one of the best speakers of that size, regardless of how large your budget is. Crinacle literally has a HE-1, he didn't get these speakers out of budget concerns.

>>106773470
retard, tell me why musicians use iems even in studio and performance settings

>>106773511
musicians literally have the highest form of brain burnin

>>106773534
lol

>>106773501
Which means much higher acoustic impedance, which means much smaller physical changes can have the same acoustic impact. The same IEM will vary more in its frequency response between different rigs than the same calibrated speakers do in rooms that aren't absolute acoustic hell.

>>106773551
you don't have the biological hardware to discern the differences

>>106773565
the human ear can't hear past spotify

>>106773511
Musicians aren't audio engineers, their needs are vastly different from audiophiles. They often use CIEMs, which measure like ass, because comfort is vastly more important for them than frequency response neutrality.

>>106773422
350€, better extension than shitty JBLs too

>>106773588
this and checked. musicians don't need quality, they listen for differences in terms of what they're familiar with ie brain burnin

>>106772714
Its funny that crin literally goes
>see this garbage JBL 305's that are much bigger? Yeah get the ilouds instead
kek, ruskie in shambles

>>106773565
You do. Differences in frequency response between rigs are way above the audibility threshold.

>>106773625
play an acoustic guitar then break it across your face

>>106773640
Make me

>>106773589
it is still budget speakers bro...

>>106773652
fgt

>>106773506
nobody is arguing about that so I don't see how it is in any way relevant

>>106772663
It does, they are just a lot more damped, and you will not see them as clearly since there is no consistent resonance frequency.
711 tends to overestimate the resonance, while the 5128 underestimates, all relative to the average ear canal.

>>106773678
Then what are we arguing about? They are the best speakers of their size at any pricepoint, you are the one projecting about price being important

what would /iemg/ be like if it had reading comprehension and jobs?

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>be ruskie
>live in kruschevka
>buy massive speakers with poor bass extension
>now you have to get a subwoofer
>now your whole setup is too loud for your kruschevka, risk of building collapsing with vibrations
>???
>fox iem time

>>106773710
/hpg/

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What's going on in /iemg/... Oh Lord

What is the procedure to put these foam things on flat head earbuds?
I feel like I am gonna rip this thing while trying to open it up.

>>106773759
Nevermind, you kinda just go for it and hope it doesn't tear I guess.

Reminder that you don't reach endgame by buying, but rather by reading.

>>106773759
Trying out the FAAEAL Iris 2.0 from the OP guide that I bought a while ago.
It is kinda meh, as expected I guess, I don't know if needs some EQing, I am not a regular from these threads and don't know much about it.
I bought it for when my ears are hurting from my regular in-ears.

>>106773492
>race of the manufacturer
race of the manufacturer doesn't matter because they do not conduct listening tests and just wing it.

I ordered the Ziigaat Doscincos about 2 weeks ago and haven't received them yet. But now I'm going to buy the Shanling ME600s as well. Then Im gonna buy the Artti T10 Pros next time they go back to costing $92.

After that, Im done.

>>106773835
>Im done
until you aren't, or until you see something in the corner of your eyes, or you start thinking about other pos, or you....

>>106773575
it is true and you will fail to prove otherwise

>>106773859
No I am going to be satisfied with 4 IEMs in total:

>Aful Explorer
My current daily driver. Love how I can turn up the volume and not hurt my ears when listening to high pitched sounds (guitars etc).

> Ziigaat Doscinco
I only bought it cause ChatGPT told me to. But Ive already lost my entusiasm for it. Hopefully it'll be good.

> Shanling ME600
I want it because someone had both this and the Doscinco and he said the Shanling was much better. Someone else said it sounds like an upgraded Aful Explorer (same tuning but better sound stage, separation, 3d etc). It also looks fantastic and supposedly is very comfortable to wear.

> Artti T10 Pro
Because after trying the KZ PRX I realize I gotta have a good planar set. And the T10 Pro sounds like the Aful Explorer but with better bass and a little more treble energy (while still not being fatiguing).

>>106773835
>After that, Im done.
Who's gonna tell lil bro

>>106773551
>The same IEM will vary more in its frequency response between different rigs than the same calibrated speakers do in rooms that aren't absolute acoustic hell.
I dunno if this is necessary true. Like... I see where you are coming from but I do not think that's an established fact so I wouldn't be so confident presenting this as absolute truth. It might be but also might not be or even be comparable.
Either way I don't think that's a good argument despite you not being exactly wrong.

>>106773903
>I am going to be satisfied
that's what every retard that "achieves endgame" by buying pos says before going back to get more in a few weeks/months/years

>>106773914
it's not really true, there is some variation but for the most part it's either somewhat predictable, or a "wide" issue, both pretty easy to fix
with speakers you have the speakers themselves, the room, and the person listening, it's a lot more difficult to have a proper good speaker system than pos imo

>>106773922
Well, I hope this will last me at least 6 months.

I used a single IEM for 4 years without issue (Fiio FH3). Then I started reading this general + reddit and head fi and watching youtube videos and now this is like a full time hobby. I've bought 10+ IEMs (mainly cheap ones) in the last month. Most of them I've only listened to for a couple of minutes each.

>>106773689
>711 tends to overestimate the resonance, while the 5128 underestimates
is there any data on how actual resonance in humans look like? or averages at least?

>>106773705
Are we arguing about anything? I'm just calling out dude who's acting like he solved sound after he bough some poorfag speakers (even if they are relatively decent ones)
>They are the best speakers of their size at any pricepoint, you are the one projecting about price being important
you are just moving goalposts to size
it doesn't matter

Ive noticed buying IEMs gives you a high for an hour or two after you first listen to it. Like when I received my Aful Explorer I went on a two hour walk and all my songs sounded so good. Then the next time, I didnt get that same high, so I started looking for more/new IEMs (thats when I ordered the Ziigaat Doscinco).

So I can understand why some people have 40+ IEMs.

>>106773830
except chinks have to buy it

>>106773835
stop consooming jezaz...

>>106773903
>My current daily driver. Love how I can turn up the volume and not hurt my ears when listening to high pitched sounds (guitars etc).
you get that this is normal, right?

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>>106773903
kz pr2 > all that shit

>>106773953
Depends where, but there are a few papers that address it if you look in the EQ guide paper archive. I don't know the titles off the top of my head but you can search them easily.

>>106773952
>Well, I hope this will last me at least 6 months.
you went from endgame to 6 months, not looking good
>now this is like a full time hobby
yes, because the hobby is consumption, both in terms of pos and reviews
the way to achieve endgame is by reading

>>106774018
the way to achieve endgame is spending $38 on pr2 and vx pros

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When you're at endgame, all that's remaining is down

>>106774024
until you have to spend $39 on pr2x and vx pro ultra

>>106773511
>why musicians use iems even in studio
they don't

>>106774039
pr3 and prx are pr2 lite and vx pro+ is already the improved budget version of vx pro

>>106773903
something is telling me that your reasoning to buying shit is rather flawed and it's better for you to stop. actually you should've stopped at explorer

>>106773914
https://forum.headphones.com/t/the-shape-of-iems-to-come/22078

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>>106774042
okay nigger

>>106773588
>Musicians
>They often use CIEMs
holy shit why are you lying your ass off? if you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, you still can't sit there and just make shit up, actual nutjob
>>106774000
>>106774037
trips of half truth. pr2 is a gem, also stop spamming.

some of you, even when trolling, are seriously low quality and actually shit up the thread. like, your brains aren't really working, this is just your boring echo chamber where you get to pick fights about pos....of all things. go out and get a blowjob

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>>106774037
>R2R
>tubes with IEMs

>>106774080
rimjobs > blowjobs don't @ me

>>106774068
that looks like a music video, fuck outta here

>>106773968
anybody can buy it

>>106774094
white people can buy it yea but they EQ it. that's what this thread is saying

white people have the longest ear canals and the longest pussies, it makes sense to EQ when purchasing ear dildoes from a neotenous race

>>106774093
recorded in a studio

>>106774099
>>106774130
boring racist off-topic crap. no shame

>>106774154
oh no medical racism in a thread that's half about anatomy

>>106774150
you're confused. the audio recording is of the live performance. you must think that it's also on their album or something too lol

>>106773942
that's what I've been thinking but I doubt anybody did any kind of comprehensive analysis of these topics so we can only make conjectures

>>106774161
low hanging fruit. dunning-krueger statistic

>>106773967
you have a problem

>>106774164
it literally is the album version of the song https://youtu.be/N0OBF83rL-8

>>106774166
we have the data, the most we'll see is a wideband difference below 1khz, and changes in the treble usually in the form of resonance shifting and resonance damping

>>106774099
you'd need to EQ it no matter what.
also thinking that IEM manufacturers have any kind of understanding of needs or preferences of chinese market is hilarious when all of them are based on harman research and also half of them are gigantic as fuck and won't even fit in asian ears
you are tripping balls retard

>>106774189
I didn't say we don't have data I said nobody did a comprehensive analysis
not that it matters anyway

>>106774170
I love my ST7 bro but it's ear rape. Half my IEMs are ear rape. Why in God's name would an IEM with 2DD+5BA have the DDs muted and all the BAs dedicate themselves to high frequency? If I EQ it, it sounds normal. It sounds normal to them without EQ because they buy the shit out of it. An American 2DD+5BA would not be like the ST7. Same goes for PR2, it's pure ear rape but the driver is so goos.

>>106774190
High frequency is like adding sugar to tea, I can't hear/taste shit with it. There's no way Asians would put up with it

>>106774200
>I love my ST7 bro but it's ear rape. Half my IEMs are ear rape. Why in God's name would an IEM with 2DD+5BA have the DDs muted and all the BAs dedicate themselves to high frequency
I told you why already - it's harman 2019 ie target + inability of these retards to tune their fucking POS.
Also it's YOU problem for buying ear rape ion the first place as if it's not fucking showing up on graphs.
>It sounds normal to them without EQ because they buy the shit out of it.
you are kidding yourself if you think they were actually listening to it instead of trying to poor match some arbitrary target with their 711 CLONE coupler.

>>106774200
>An American 2DD+5BA
such as?
half of western pos and headpos are ear rape fucking too retard
you are delusional

>>106774231
TRN ST7 has nothing to do with Harman, and I bought it because I know I can EQ it

>>106774200
I'm not going to talk you out of using eq my guy. pr2 is dope. my hydros have 10 drivers in each side so..I only have basic kz problems with it, while still being their best release yet.

>>106774222
it's free market nobody makes you buy anything
as I said you are tripping balls and also fucking stupid.
there was research about preference by region you can look look it up instead of saying dumbfuck shit as if you understand anything

The bass on the Fission is so good

>>106774199
The analysis has already been done, papers written about it. It was already posted itt

>>106774236
American headpos are all generic Vshapes aside from a very few tuned-by-ears. American IEMs can't hold a candle to China in treble peaks. I can name like 5 Chinese IEMs that are dark and they're from bright companies. America has manufacturers with lineups of dark:

>>106774259
harman slop doesn't qualify

>>106773999
>you get that this is normal, right?
Is it really? Because that has not been my experience with other IEMs. Also seems like a lot of people find this "boring".

>>106774249
All I said was Chinese people have to buy Chinese IEMs, with the implication that a business needs revenue to operate. Meanwhile we have spergs here whining about EQ.

>>106774263
ESL 1000%

>>106774239
>TRN ST7 has nothing to do with Harman
they do follow harman until treble which clearly they were unable to tune properly
>I bought it because I know I can EQ it
you can EQ any POS. You do not make ANY sense.

>>106774276
work on your english grammar and maybe anons will make more sense.

>>106774259
link? are you saying people actually compared positional variations of in ear monitors vs room variation for speakers?

>>106774276
They put 5 high frequency BAs in them... You seriously can't be this stupid.

>>106774267
>Is it really
yes
>Because that has not been my experience with other IEMs
I'm pretty sure you were retarded enough to buy your IEMs and they were not send you by god. So I dunno how can you blame anyone but yourself?
>Also seems like a lot of people find this "boring".
preference=neutrality
some people considering something boring doesn't mean anything

>>106774296
ESL

>>106774018
>yes, because the hobby is consumption, both in terms of pos and reviews. the way to achieve endgame is by reading
Yeah, I love it. Watching and reading reviews and then thinking about/planning purchases, then fantasizing about purchases spikes my dopamine. And then when I finally hit that "Buy Now" button, I get an even bigger hit. Then once I finally get my package and open it up, that's when I get that biggest dopamine hit. It's like crack. But then once I actually listen to the pos, the hit starts to fade and I gotta do it all over again.

Also once I've spent a certain amount of money, lets say it's $100, then I won't really get that same hit by buying a $50 pos anymore. I gotta spend more money, like $150 or $200. Gotta spend more to get the same kind of hit, kick, rush. So that's why I don't wanna spend too much yet, I get enough of a rush now from just buying $200 sets. It's better I stay at this level for as long as possible. Once I don't get a rush from spending $200 anymore, I will move up to 300, 400, 500 etc.

>>106774270
>All I said was Chinese people have to buy Chinese IEMs
but they don't have to?
>with the implication that a business needs revenue to operate
chinese manufacturers provide a variety of styles of tuning. A lot of them even provide FR measurements in their advertisement.

>>106774305
I get my dopamine hit comparing the difference between iems like I compare my coworkers' pussies and anuses.

>>106774050
>something is telling me that your reasoning to buying shit is rather flawed and it's better for you to stop. actually you should've stopped at explorer
The Explorer is awesome but I don't get a kick out of it anymore. I mean I still use it every day, still enjoy it, but thinking about new IEMs makes me more excited.

>>106774281
that's not a proper rebuttal and more of a concession (which I accept)

I apologize for posting this here, I don't frequent this board and the headphones general seems to have died; years ago I found - I think - this ebay seller https://www.ebay.com/itm/262458468187 as a source for great replacement pads for the ATH-AD900x. I now need to replace my pads and was hoping someone could please confirm if they're any good, having lost the original link but recalling the photos.

To keep it on topic my portable setup is an EPZ-TP35 + Moondrop Aria snow + spintips + some Nicehck cable

>>106774315
add 2 db bass shelf and 2 db treble shelf instead of buying shit lol

>>106770218
This thing looks really cool.

>>106774318
>I now need to replace my pads and was hoping someone could please confirm if they're any good, having lost the original link but recalling the photos.
yeeeah friend you are fucked fucked

>>106774314
>I get my dopamine hit comparing the difference between iems like I compare my coworkers' pussies and anuses.
Nice. I know what you mean.
>>106774326
Yeah but EQ is boring in comparison. You don't get to spend any money and you don't receive a shiny new toy you can hold in your hand.

>>106774318
aliexpress? they have a reviews tab

>>106774282
I'm saying small differences in acoustic impedance of the ear canal, insertion depth, seal, leaks, etc, can cause large changes (measurable by several dbs) in frequency response, and that the other anon saying "sound is isolated to an infinitesimally smaller space than a room regardless of your ear shape" unironically defeats itself.

I'm also saying that different measurement rigs (GRAS, B&K, clone couplers, IEC711, etc.) have different ear canal impedance profiles and resonances, so the same IEM can look quite different between them. Compare that to how consistently neutral measurements can get on good calibrated monitor speakers, measurements that are publicly available.

>>106773903
>>Shanling ME600
...wait I looked this up.
I dunno maybe you are delusional enough to brainwash yourself into liking it but holy shit it looks like a hot garbage

>>106774377
revisions are the chef's kiss on this

>>106774284
..and? what does any of this have to do with your ability to EQ this specific pos?

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>>106774380
>I dunno maybe you are delusional enough to brainwash yourself into liking it but holy shit it looks like a hot garbage
Why do you think it looks like garbage? Is it the peaks and valleys?

>>106774310
>>106774389
The measurements are worthless, and a market reflects industry and vice versa. Go away.

>>106774310
>A lot of them even provide FR measurements in their advertisement.
oh boy, a chart that reflected what it didn't sound like 2 revisions ago im sure this is accurate

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I paid $4.73 for each of these btw

>>106774424
everything, from bass to weirdo treble tuning
and there's basically 0 reliable measurements too lol
explorer has actually relaxed warm tuning... this shit though? some fucked up V-shape and who knows what kind of nonsense it'll turn into inside your ear

>>106774426
but you are not even looking at market as a whole? what your argument even is?
chinese IEMs are sold internationally

>>106774465
that's not the point

editorzo...it's october...

My dad is drunk and came into my room to say "What's up, Sexless McGee?" and then he laughed at his own joke and walked off.

>Shanling M0 Pro for $75
I want it just because of how small it is. Realistically I'd only use it when I'd be out walking my dog so I'm not sure it's worth it even at that price.

>>106774596
Well? What are you waiting for? Go take out your phone and install Grindr:

>>106774500
I haven't read a single bad review about them. There are two YouTube reviews (both glowing) and 5-6 users on Reddit saying they're really good. So yeah, it's a bit of a gamble but it's also fun to find a hidden diamond that hasn't had a paid hype/shill train going like most Linsoul releases (Ziigaat, Thieaudio, Xenns, Punch Audio etc).

>>106774612
It's too small. Get a Fiio JM21 instead so you can have Android and a decent screen.

ngl I bought a good dongle knowing i have no use for it outside. I could get away with one song at work here and there, probably worth it actually

>>106774673
>I haven't read a single bad review about them
wow what a surprise

>>106774612
Wanted to get something like that but they are always more expensive than a cheap cellphone with 3.5 + sd slot.

>>106774768
can you please stop bullying me >////<

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R8 my babies first iem short list

>>106774813
>ew300
meh
>hexa
meh
>lan
bright
>red
big

overall: meh/10

>>106774796
you'll be fine

>>106774813
You don't need all 4 anon, you only have 2 ears!

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>>106774813
>all this costs more than PR2 and RU7 ($183)

>>106774826
I'm definitely selecting for an all rounder. Just gettingy feet with in the hifi world.
>>106774832
Gonna put the rest in various other holes.

>>106774813
why not just buy daybreaks?

>>106774872
One of these is getting plugged into a snowsky echo mini. Making more aesthetic considerations than anything.

>>106774889
Don't feel like dropping that much cash before I even understand what I want from the gear

I recently got into IEMs and this is what I have so far. I'm taking advantage of Amazon's return policy to try out some of these for myself instead of just relying on graphs and review shills. I picked up some Moondrop spring tips because the Zigaat ones kinda sucked.

DAP:
HiBy M300 (I mainly use this at the gym with some Buds 3 FE)
FiiO M21

DAC/Amp:
Qudelix 5K
Luxury & Precision W4

IEMs:
Xenns Mangird Tea Pros
Punch Audio Martilo
Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite
ZiiGaat x Fresh Reviews Arete
ZiiGaat x Jay’s Audio Estrella

>>106774813
replace the cringi collab with bunny and gate

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>>106774813
>Simgot
Pretty OK I guess
>HEXA
The best option by far - but do not use it raw straight out of your phone's jack. Use a dongle or an amp since it's a hybrid or it won't be loud enough
>Moondrop Lan
Don't. The Lan II is coming in a few weeks
>Zero RED
Absolutely fucking not. That thing is hyped to shit and overpriced for what it can actually do. Take it from me that it sounds so fucking dark it sucks the sovl out of any music you play on it. It has zero treble or energy. Not to mention how uncomfortable the nozzles are. Out of everything in the list it's also the worst in technicalities and soundstage. 0/10 would not buy again and neither should you. Take that shite off your cart IMMEDIATELLY

>>106774813
Why do you have lower prices than me? Is it because you're not American?

>>106774933
Can you post your reviews/comparisons between these IEMs, please?

>>106774813
Going to second everyone vouching against the REDs. I have the Blues which are the same shell and holy shit they ARE massive. Really uncomfortable to use after only a few minutes, but I do have tiny ears.
I did same thing as you by buying bunch of entry level buds but I might be deaf since I couldn't really hear a difference between most of them.
For what is worth, out of the batch I got I think my favorite one was the Moondrop May, so I would swap the Lan for them.

>>106774961
I will when I've tried all of them for a little longer. I forgot to mention I'm also testing them out for FPS games since being able to discern what direction sound comes from in games is really important to me.

slowly but surely, /iemg/ is becoming like /hpg/, like headfi, and like reddit

>>106774975
>zero:red
obsoleted by ea500lm

>>106774988
I'm Indian and I found out about /g/ from Reddit lol

>>106774945
>amp
>with IEMs

>>106774988
I agree.

>>106774942
I'm trying really hard not to make my purchase decision based on how cute the anime girl in the box is... but the temptation is there.
>>106774945
Good insights here. Might hold of until the Lan II drops and see how that changes the line up.
>>106774951
Nope that's my price in burger bucke. Lot of sales going on right now.
>>106774975
Yup reds are officially off the list. They only made it based of the price to performance hype.

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>>106774993
You know what else obsoletes that?

>>106774998
>>amp
>>with IEMs
I saw people saying dac/amps aren't/are useful for IEMs so I decided to get a cheap one and a more expensive one to see for myself but with my limited experience I'm leaning towards the "not needed" camp. I'm glad I'm still able to return them.

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>>106775003
Only good thing I like the Blues is how they look. But here's mine compared to my Chu2 (which to be fair is quite small)

>>106775003
>I'm trying really hard not to make my purchase decision based on how cute the anime girl in the box is... but the temptation is there.
just buy aria 2 red lol

>>106775052
They heavy.

>>106775054
eh relatively maybe

>>106775009
at the price point? shoot

>>106774979
Thanks. Will keep an eye out.

>>106775029
Amp makes a difference with some IEMs. Not because one is better than another, but due to impedance. Some IEMs will change tuning if they get way more power than they were made for. Usually it results in more bass. You can achieve the same effect by attaching an impedance adapter.

>Some IEMs will change tuning if they get way more power than they were made for.
god damn iemg has massive brain drain

>>106775257
It's probably Americans. Here in India we have a bustling IEM scene with a few active forums.

>>106775257
pretty tragic, crazy to think that the peak of iemg intellect was with chuzo aka eqzo

I've never had sex.

Got my AirPods Pro 2 but I feel like they don't sound as good as the wired usb c earpods, damn

>>106775713
Don't worry they don't.

>>106775783
They have less bass I feel like
Wish there was a proper EQ on ios like Poweramp

>>106773551
Only true above Schroeder frequency. Below that every speaker will vary in every room, in every listening and speaker position of that room, regardless of room treatment. That's what room EQ is.

You can get consistent subbass in every point of the room with double bass array, but never with just the speakers.

>>106775280
>doesn't remember how he had to have every part of his EQ beaten into him because he can't hear

>>106775931
Nyar.

>>106774996
why is this seanigger larping as a jeet now

>>106776046
Hello, I am from the Philippines.

>>106775157
What even is this post. Correctly says the change is from the output impedance and the says it's from power, then from impedance again.

>>106776059
pagzo

>>106773965
Lmao you are just moving goalposts without even considering the purpose I bought them

Certified poorfag coper

just ordered a new FiiO M21 off Aliexpress with the coupon for us burgers it came to $270 compared to the Amazon one that was $360 after tax. I'm returning the Amazon one and just keeping the one from Ali.

>>106774945
>Hexa
>not loud enough
can achieve ear-splitting volume on average phone jack
t. listening to it right now, on my Xperia it takes 1/3 of the volume for comfortable listening

>>106775681
You're too poor to have sex. When was the last time you could afford a calorie surplus for yourself and another person?

I have an android phone and J convert flacs to opus 128kbps. Doe it make sense to just get a random usbc<->jack for 10€ from a noname brand or should I get a proper one from like fiio?

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why do people keep falling for the pmp meme? even an oversized dongle takes up less pocket space

>>106775681
I had sex yesterday. First time using Skyn's. Polyisoprene is the planar driver of contraceptives.

>>106776996
>for when you want to opt out of carrying a phone
>dongles can be fiddly, it's additional connections that can deteriorate, or disconnect if poor quality
>separate storage for music library (espesially now that most phones lack an SD card slot)
Yeah, just phone+dongle is perfectly fine if you're on a budget, but the small conveniences are worth it if you're rich like me.

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Supermix 4 for 120 USD - should I get them?
I'm so butthurt that I missed a chance to get m50xbt2lab for dirt cheap, so I took a dive for IEMs to see if they are good (I haven't used any IEMs in the past).

>>106777068
>should I get them?
yes

>>106777060
>>for when you want to opt out of carrying a phone
zoomer moment

>>106777032
cumming in her ass and mouth (in that order) is the SR-001 of contraceptives

Someone explain why earpods mog everything lowend?

>>106777173
I kept telling you niggas to buy KZ PR2 back when it was $13 before coupons so I'm still going to claim it's lowend

>>106777060
>most phones lack an SD card slot
I'll never buy a non-microsd phone, but isn't there an alternative for cuckolds with them, like a bluetooth microsd reader or smth?

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Anyone want to buy a dongle with a microsd slot? >>106777231

>>106772479
Oxygen worse than those speakers?
delusion.

>>106776996
In my case my phone doesn't have an SD card slot for storing my music offline (I often travel by train and subway and connection isn't reliable), even if I paid for a streaming service ~20% of my library isn't available. Also my phone doesn't have a jack and I don't wanna break the USB c port by plugging and unplugging stuff multiple times a day

>>106777231
What I like about my hiby is that I listen to music a lot and when I'm travelling or I'm out all day, my phone battery lasts all day

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>>106776900
If Android 16 get an Apple dongle
If not a JCally JM6 Pro

>>106777439
Dont you wish you could see for yourself, huh?

Why don’t you just buy speakers instead of spending hundreds on iems? Shitty entry level speakers like a130s completely mog any IEM.

>>106777585
I'm nomadic, only garage sale speakers and dumpster diving for me, not gonna pay for extra luggage

>>106777585
Speakers have different sound presentation
Are room dependent and not a personal experience
Also good speaker setup is not cheap

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>>106777585
I live in an apartment and it's banned to play loud music. Also I travel alot to different airport facilities as an atc. Also lugging a headpos around is a hassle.

>>106777640
if you weren't an anime-masturbating manlet you could wear a HE-R9 around your neck and not look weird

>>106777614
>Also good speaker setup is not cheap
false. ss-cs5 exists

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>>106777660
If you say so... Yeah.

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>>106777585
Speakers at home, IEMs outside(and for some games).

>>106777715
some people upgrade the crossover and add some internal dampening and it becomes that much better.

>>106777481
>no microsd
>no removable battery
>apparently can't replace usb port
yeah im never buying a new phone again

>>106777585
My usual recommendation is speakers if you live in a house, headphones if you live in an apartment, IEMs if you listen on the move.

>>106777849
Even if you can't use speakers IEMs are still better than headpos.

>>106777773
Consider the following: instead of trying to salvage this crippled thing just get any 20$ pos + EQ

>>106777875
>instead of trying to salvage crippled thing, salvage e-waste

>>106777859
Your head isn't an IEC711, anon.

>>106777877
EQ is free, it works and is fast

I've NEVER had sex.

>>106777875
>>106777881
>>106777889
Kill yourself.

>>106777892
Nyar.

>>106777890
We know. Poorest general on 4chan. Even actual poorfags have sex.

>>106777875
Or just get a Kanto Ora for a few hundred bucks.

>>106777902
Sex... it evades my grasp, per se? Am I using that correctly? Hmph, well anyways... >:^3...

I don't even listen to speakers anymore, I just talk about them to expose how poor you people are.

>>106777875
I have both. what are you telling me? that when I decide to listen to my vinyl, I should use pos and a long ass cable? fuck all that

HOLY samefag

>>106777915
Being poor is a mentality; you could buy enough food to achieve an erection, install grindr and get some ass right now but you won't.

>>106777804
I fell for the Pixel hype, with the trade in bonus I got more money than my previous cellphone costed new on Amazon. I plan to make someone change the battery midlife and then we'll see in 6 years what will happen. Probably I won't spend that much anymore, but the separate mp3 player is still worth it to me anyways. It doesn't discharge my cellphone and it doesn't distract me from music

>>106777945
Ever considered chinkheld+dongle?

>>106777934
>using grindr to "get some ass"
>not using it to get gangbanged by dudes

Ngmi

>>106777934
You're right, I'm far too beta. >////< please stop bullying me desu nya

>>106777960
You don't even need an app for that...

>>106777881
My head is not bald. If you're worried about what happens to IEMs due to acoustic impedance check out what happens to every headphone on every rig above 1kHz.

>>106777994
>>106777994
>>106777994

>>106777957
I was telling the other guy that I listen to music offline because of train and subway rides where connection isn't reliable and the pixel doesn't have an sd card slot. I basically only use it as a phone and I use the mp3 player as an mp3 player. It's working very well so far. In the future, we will see. I mean, this way I'm not even tempted to listen to whatsapp or telegram voice clips and I just listen to music without anyone interrupting me. It's an upgrade for me

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>>106777651
Give me a break. This is the only reprieve I have after choosing a career that makes me want to hang myself everyday.

Imagine being too poor for gay sex.

>>106778012
I also use a linux chinkheld as a music player/source, battery bank, storage, sshd server, etc. Combined with a phone it's like a $20 laptop

>>106778019
Ever considered being high 24/7?

>>106777989
I have checked and it's nowhere near as drastic as you imply it to be.
And having a bald head is quite unnecessary, the only common, serious seal problem with headphones is using glasses with closed backs.

>>106777989
>>106778119
But it is crucial while listening to IEMs to have resting bitch face so you don't lose seal. Search "IEM face" for more info.

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Every IEM user has this from years of wearinf IEMs and developing the facial muscles

>>106778176
A side effect of wearing anal IEMs so you don't lose sub-bass through the intestines.

>>106777068
just add a bit more and buy daybreaks

>>106778176
>>106778188
Just get better IEMs. I can even eat without losing seal.

>>106778119
>And having a bald head is quite unnecessary
But unavoidable.