>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch. 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.

>Omissions
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.

Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. 1.4V or 1.45V CPU VR voltage limit recommended.

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>>106770455
because its crazy expensive, and you don't need one as a normal consumer unless your job is something crazy and corporate. Also the motherboard and cooling options are limited.

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I'm thinking of buying a Odin 2 Portal so I can have a super cool streaming device for my powerful pc.

man itd be great if the 2026 oleds stop having the Auto Brightness Limiter ruining the screen

I want to buy a used gaming PC to build my own router, I'll buy one without GPU or just sell it. I want to optimize for power, so which one? 5600x or 3600x or what gen i3 or i5 should I look for. I want as low watts as possible.

>>106770784
>I want to buy a used gaming PC to build my own router
u fuckin wot m8? you use a low-power mini pc for it, not a fucking desktop with a desktop chip.
even an intel n100 is wildly more performance than you'll ever need

>>106770650

That's gonna be my next computer case.

>>106770784
Seconding >>106770799
I guess an old used PC might be cheaper than a new mini/SBC but then you do lose out on power efficiency.
Best decide what you want. Power efficiency? SBC/mini/thin client. Ultra cheap? Recycling centre Optiplex etc.

>>106770730
It won't happen, I believe ABL is present in OLED TVs as well. Definitely more aggressive on monitors.

>torrent hard drive is dying
What are the good and bad hard drive models nowadays? And is there a reason not go for 8 TB instead of 4?

>>106770871
everything sucks and cmr are fake
just buy the highest capacity one you can get. hopefully it won't be too loud (it probably will be).

>>106770860
I think they're getting to modes where stuff like "trueblack 400" might not have any but the 1k nits mode will
and tandem oleds have less off it I guess?

>>106770871
non-SMR NAS/surveillance drives
save off a lot of money buying used enterprise stuff of the above variety
>8 vs 4 TB
no other reason than you risk losing double the data if failure occurs
get 2 drives and mirror them

so will next year be finally the year when 1440p affordable OLED's happen?

>>106771300
the gigabyte tandem oled is pretty affordable

>>106771339
Not him but I'm waiting for 4K 32" version of that panel. GIGABYTE MO27Q28G you mentioned is 520€ right now, so I hope bigger brother won't be double the price.

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>>106771339
>$500
>affordable
maybe if i didn't live in retardland where i can expect a 40% mark up based on imports taxes

>>106771363
okay so buy one of those cheap ktc minileds
it still has its own advantages over 1k € oleds since they dont dim the screen

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friend is offering to sell me a 2070 Super that was used for 5~ years for about 100 USD
I have a second hand 1660 Super, and any other 2070 Supers are over double the cost here (NZ), that's pretty much all I know about it, thoughts bros?

>>106771739
its somewhat ps5 level and cheap but you might as well buy a real gpu

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I want to buy a 21" or 22" 120+ Hz IPS monitor, but all the options for that size are 100 Hz models (I live in a shithole cunt). Is there such a technology for my requirements or am I stuck with 100 hz options? Any recs? Should I even bother? I use a 75hz monitor atm

>>106771760
I'm a dirty neet and take care of my younger siblings, I don't make any income so I can't really afford anything proper and am stuck with second hand shitboxes from 4-5 years ago

>>106771739
you won't find anything better for that price

>>106771778
maybe look into 5060 or something

>>106771739
For $100 it's great, dlss has allowed those cards to age really well

>After 9 years and moderate use, the gigabyte mobo is crapping out
Just get a new pc at this point or look for a lga 1151 board?

>>106771916
I would get a new CPU/board/memory, especially if you live near a Microcenter.

>>106770871
torenting on hard drives is retarded. get a nvme drive.

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what clocks should I be getting on this 9950x3d?
aren't the cores supposed to be running at the same clock speed?

>>106771954
Shit, I do live within 30 mins of one, but the other parts are still good for what I need it for.
>i7 skylake 6700
>Crucial ballistix 2400
>Geforce 970 SC
I think I'll hold over just a little longer, than go for cpu/board/memory

>storage / SSD
I understand that M.2 NVMe is just a standard these days, no question about it.
But are there any current SATA SSD reviews? Are those still manufactured these days. I just want to upgrade some older PC/laptops.
If anything I just want to make some search criteria to filter out literal garbage from "that will do".
And yes, I am aware SATAIII is bottleneck itself.

>>106772005
There's a $280 AM5 bundle. Sunk cost to buy a Skylake board.
https://www.microcenter.com/product/5007088/amd-ryzen-5-7600x,-asus-b650e-max-gaming-wifi,-gskill-16gb-ddr5-6000,-computer-build-bundle

>>106772049
Ok, this bundle sucks since it's only giving you a single memory stick.
IDK wtf they're thinking.
But there are better sub $400 bundles.

>>106772049
>>106772063
That's a good point, I'll shop around, I'm fine with my 970 for now.

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This is literally all I want and I'm finding it hard to justify spending building a PC over buying this

>>106770871
>torrenting on less than 20TB enterprise drives
ngmi
you can't be buying all that <10TB SMR dying consoomer crap

>>106771739
Drive him down to $50, he is being a jew what does he need $100 for you know he's just going to spend it on garbage

>>106772046
>>But are there any current SATA SSD reviews?
No, they don't make them any more. You will only find ancient stuff and chinesium trash. The ONLY Sata SSD I can recommend are Samsung 870 EVO drives since they actually still produce them. MX500s were good too but Micron stopped making them and price got inflated.

My $600 Asus motherboard just flat out died after like 5 months of use. Working perfectly one night, next day wouldn't boot in any config after all possible troubleshooting steps. Wouldn't even POST to bios, just hung during boot with a Q-code error.

I warranty RMAd it, and they sent me a dirty refurbished board with cat hair and leftover thermal paste on it. That was also faulty.

Now I'm on my second RMA and I haven't had a working desktop in almost two months. Thanks Asus.

>>106772229
RMAs have gotten so bad, it's basically impossible to be sent new replacement hardware now, especially on first try. You're lucky to receive working hardware at all unless you start screeching about going to reddit youtube and twitter

>>106772276
I left a bad newegg review to get a customer loyalty case, complained on the overclocking forums, and am going to email the CEO.

I haven't taken to plebbit or xitter because I just can't.

>>106771739
If he was your friend he should just give it to you.

>>106771739
is a good deal maybe offer him $75 first

>>106772229
Premium experience.

>>106772229
next time, don't buy a $600 motherboard

>fell for the assrock meme
Welp, I thought I was safe cause it has been functioning fine since February but my 9800x3d just sudoku'd itself

>>106772229
just out of curiosity but do you remember the code?

How do you stop constantly wanting to upgrade?
Buillt my pc last year, this year my gpu was brought to its knees by Cronos the last dawn (had to inject fsr4 and play on performance to keep it above 60 fps, thanks amd) and now I'm eyeing the 5070tis and 5080s for an upgrade
Saving up money is useless because I don't earn a lot and apartments cars etc get more expensive faster than I get spare money

>>106772724
Don't browse hardware related news till you actually need an upgrade.

>>106772737
Every time I enter an Unreal Engine game I think about upgrading because of Ayymd performance and lack of native fsr4 (THANK YOU LISA)

>>106772753
No amount of upgrading will make your average ass 3A UE5 game run flawless.

>>106772667
62 with the white VGA debug LED lit, for "Installation of PCH Runtime Services".

No reports of this on this specific model, most reports date back to prior chipsets, commonly associated with GPU issues (occurred with no GPU installed) or memory issues (occurred in any RAM config with known working RAM) or PSU (tested who a separate known working PSU).

Only other possibility is a 9800X3D just an hero'd overnight for no reason with socket issues visible. I didn't test with a different CPU, I don't have another AM5 around.

>>106772753
>>106772759
When will Unreal finally die or get good?

>>106772768
Technically there were reports on the x870e crosshair hero that it killed some 9800x3d but those date some months back.

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>>106770434
so I have an old r3200g 16gb ram rtx 4060 build and 200 dollars. Thinking of spending those 200 dollars on a r5600 and 32gb of RAM. Is it a good idea? is there a better one for the same $200?

>>106772781
Never
Normies don't even know what Unreal is, neither do they notice the stutters and shit, they just keep consooming

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I'm thinking of replacing my secondary monitor. Right now it's Samsung S24B300, my primary is Dell S2721DGF. I wouldn't use it for gaming, more of for watching movies, browsing the internet, and general day to day and productivity use. I'm looking for something with 4k, 27"+ (so it's at least as big as my primary, but since it's further away from where I'm sitting, I might want it bigger), Display Port + HDMI (for comfortable switching between private and work pc without having to swap cables), 60hz+, and as good blacks as I can get them without blowing up the budgets. OLEDs seem expensive as fuck, so that's probably out, but quick google told me a Samsung VA might be alright. Samsung ViewFinity S7 seems cheap enough, but is it alright? It also doesn't seem to be height adjustable, which while not a requirement, would be a plus (or maybe I should invest in some monitor arms too). Any alternatives?

>>106770434
Whoa what gpu is that

posting in case any other anon runs into this
have 9800x3d and updated to the newest asrock bios (3.50). went from normal 40C (35C in bios) cpu temps to 86C on start up so really high temps. realized all my bios settings got changed and had to go through them and still not quite sure how I fixed it. PBO off but CO set to -20, igpu set to disabled when dgpu is found ( I think the option needs to be enabled from auto), also turned off the 105W option since I guess that's just all bad. now back to 42C

>>106772797
Just add a bit and go on am5

>>106772826
amazon has a big sales day in a week so I'd wait till then to see what is available.

>>106772833
Sapphire Nitro 9070XT

>>106772822
I just was reading on frame gen and people were raving about how good it was in Cyber Punk. I tried it and the artifacts drove me insane. It made me realize how low the bar is for most people. Frame gen will probably become fantastic and the smoothness is nice, but it's not there yet.

>>106772864
Looks like I'm going team red then fuck

>>106772865
I get better framegen from Lossless Scaling than the in-game and driver methods. Dunno why but everytime I try those methods they deactivate in fast motion or look weird. Lossless Scaling DXGI mode queue 1 max latency 2 at 2x is pretty much double fps as long as it's 60fps or higher.

>>106770434
>DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD)
is there any difference? currently have 2x16GB G.Skill Trident Z 6400CL32

>>106772923
6400cl32 = 6200cl30 = 6000cl28

So your kit is slightly better assuming your CPU is stable for 1:1

i want to upgrade to an amd gpu. i currently have a 4070 and would want to sell it and get something from amd with 16gb of vram or more. i would also like it to be a performance upgrade. what would some of you recommend?

>>106772947
but does having 48Gb over 32 make a huge difference?

>>106772888
It's easily the best model

>>106772998
9070 non xt. Flash it to xt if you want to.

>>106772998
9070XT, and go with Sapphire or Powercolor. GPU version is purely preference (ie Hellhound, Red Devil, Nitro+, etc)

>>106773003
You trade speed for more capacity. If you are hitting virtual memory then you need more ram. If you aren't then you're just getting slower.

>>106772850
I can wait to see what's around, but first I'd like to know generally what to look for, and sales in my country usually suck anyway.

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Is there a reason why TechPowerUp only includes the gaming hotspot measurements for Radeon GPUs?

>>106773021
so no point in getting a 2x24 kit then? also no point in going over 6000? cause my mobo can go up to 8000

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eP69wPOtAQ
>buy 3000usd+ gpu
>fries itself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93jk4Zho7YY
>buy 2500usd+ gpu again
>Fried itself even more
thanks nvidia very coo!

Meanwhile ZERO issues on my a770 and 7900xtx going on 3 years AND excellent vram aging like wine getting faster and more capable every month or so my 1080ti/3060 is getting mogged by the intel card and 7900xtx is catching up and beating 4080/5080/3090ti in rocm/ai shitt

>>106773080
is the FSR4 on 7900XTX noticeable at all? Ive seen a few videos and cant really tell if the performance dip is worth it or not

So which Arc B580 to get? The Intel brand good enough?

>>106773066
NVIDIA disabled the GPU hotspot sensor for RTX 50 cards.

>>106773146
AND THATS A GOOD THING

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>>106773006
>>106773020
thanks

>>106773123
In games with shit TAA/Flickering yes 100% worth it, in games with decent baked in AA no

>>106773166
i usually hate dlss and dlaa but thanks to new games with shit taa i'm using the ai now. they just make the games look better in terms of aa.

>>106773166
Mainly curious about the newer Silent Hill Games cause thats all I can see using it for as everything else I play doesnt require a ton of Rastering/Frame gen

>>106773124
Whichever one is at msrp. If you're doing custom case stuff, the onix one has threaded holes on the back and sides that you can use for nefarious purposes, but other than that, no particular one stands out.

My rig has a custom loop that cools down both GPU (4090) and CPU (9800x3d)
Checking the temps, I can't help but notice the liquid temp getting really high, around between 45-50C on heavy games. My room temp is about 28C right now, and I'm using a 280mm and a 360mm radiators. I'm fairly sure this isn't normal, any advice?

>>106773330
turn up fans, if that doesnt do anything then you dont have enough radiator

>>106773330
Make sure your fans are running at the right speed, your pump is running at the proper speed, and you don't have any air/blockages in your loop. If you have a way to monitor flow make sure your flow isn't too slow.

Check your radiators for dust as well.

>>106773330
Run the pumps or fans faster.
Water is getting warm so clearly the heat is transferring to the water, just not out.
If your fans are up then you just need more rad.

I need atleast 800-900 RPM for air to actually pass through my rads and that's also about the temp they do their job with a 5-10c water to air delta depending on load and how long it's been running.

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>>106773356
This is my current fan curve, it basically goes to 100% on heavy titles and it gets pretty annoying with the noise, guess I'll have to change case since I have mounted as many radiators as it supports. Either that or getting a MoRa
>>106773371
Loop is definitely fine, after changing the trash CPU waterblock I had before that constricted the flow rate to 30l/hrs now I get 130l/hrs. Pump is constantly at 100%

My a770 and 79xtx are almost due for a repasted because Aussie summer should I aio them ? What's a good 360mm that would fit on both
ASRock challenger and pulse+ respectfully

Starting to get stability issues on stock coolers with power limit bumped 15+

>>106773407
130LPH is still a little low, the "optimal" range is 120-240LPH, so you're just barely hitting that.

>>106773123

https://imgur.com/a/1TFRLrx

>>106773427
Well fuck, I have no idea what I'm doing wrong or how to improve then. Maybe the pump is the weak link? I'm running a Corsair XD5, which while being Corsair, is still a D5 pump that goes at ~4800 RPM
>>106773395
Man I love my case but I sure do regret going with it

>>106773445
Tried the dll swaps with no dice is optiscaler usable or should I just wait for driver level

>>106773408
Slap ptm7950 on them. Also cap the mhz no higher than 2750mhz on 79xtx. You get all the front end clock performance without wasting heat trying to hit unrealistic shader clocks.

>>106773455
If you have any kinks or restrictive fittings or something that could be the problem.

If your loop comprises of only 90 degree fittings, each one adds more restriction, so depending on the loop length could be a problem.

The D5 should be capable of 200+ LPH.

If there are no kinks/blockages in your loop, it's likely just the particular combination of fittings, CPU/GPU blocks, and the radiators are all somewhat restrictive models and added together are just too restrictive for the pump.


You can always add a 2nd D5.

>>106773477
Oh neat thx

>>106773288
Thanks

>>106773477
>ptm7950
were does someone buy this? i heard some stores sell verions that don't perform well.

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>check asrock sub on a whim
>another post just 4 hours ago
this is way worse than intel's thing

>>106773521
Amazon for quick delivery, aliexpress if you want a cheaper price/longer deliver/ straight from the original seller. only thing I'll say is while I like aliexpress the pads usually dry up by the time they get to me

TINY HEART
STUCK INSIDE YOURSELF
WHEN WILL YOU OPEN UP FOR MEEEE???

Is the B770 ever going to come out or what? What the fuck Intel?? DO THE NEEDFUL INTEL.

>>106773521
Linus tech tip's webstore sells some too.

bros, I'm afraid 27" 4k's PPI might still be too low
I just know that serif fonts are nowhere near perfectly rendered, even if they're better

>>106773529
>checking reddit at all
all these cases are user error, redditards are either not changing shit in the BIOS or are relying on stock settings and then gaming with high temps. I'd rather ask autists here cause you are more than likely going to get a straightforward answer.
>>106773548
>linus Race Mixer
yeah no thanks

>>106773521
I got mine from linus touch dicks during a sale, they had the big pad for like 40? bucks and I still have over half left after repasting my cpu like 4 times and gpu once

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>>106773529
>assrock
>>106773538
thanks.
>>106773548
>tech tip
haha pener
>>106773562
haha

>>106773529
ASSROCK IS IN THE HOOOOUSE TONIGHT
YOUR CPU IS NOT GONNA HAVE A GOOD TIMMEEEEE

>>106773529
nah "intel's thing" was worse but at least they owned up to it and extended the warranty

>>106773553
We need 8k minimum.

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>>106773562
>>106773538
ptm7950 does look good. i just wish someone would test it for longer. i want to put it in a server.

>>106773225
Played both F and 2, had to use FSR4 with the new injection thing due to baked in RT, didn't have to with 2,just played natty

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>>106773486
I do have some (4) 90 degree fittings (and one 45 degree), are they really that bad? Pic related

>>106770434
USAnon here, still trying to put together a general purpose PC (internet shit, playing movies & music, high-end gaming/emulation, etc.). Budget still undetermined. Here's what I've got so far:

>CASE
Lian Li Lancool 207 (black)

>CPU
AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D
^Unsure whether I should just go ahead and pay the extra money for a 9950X3D; this thing isn't exactly going to be a rendering station, but I would like it to last.

>COOLER
Noctua NH-D15 G2
ARCTIC MX-6 4 g thermal paste
^No idea what I'm doing here- whether I should go with an AIO or a dual tower setup, or even how much thermal paste I should have on-hand. It does dry up eventually even if you don't open it, yeah?
This PTM7950 stuff sounds interesting, but PCPartPicker doesn't even have a listing for it.

>MOTHERBOARD
Gigabyte X870E AORUS

>RAM
Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16) DDR5-6000 CL30
^Would it be better to pay the extra money for a 2x32 set instead?

>SSD
Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB (OS)
Samsung 990 Pro 4 TB (storage)

>GPU
Sapphire NITRO+ Radeon RX 9070 XT 16 GB

>PSU
Super Flower LEADEX VII Platinum PRO 1200 W
^"Look at your setup's projected wattage and double it" was the rule of thumb I was given; by all means, correct me if I'm wrong.

>CASE FANS
Noctua NF-A14x25 G2 PWM Sx2-PP 91.6 CFM 140 mm Fans (2-Pack)
Noctua NF-A12x25 G2 PWM Sx2-PP 63.15 CFM 120 mm Fans (2-Pack)
^No idea how many of these (if any) I need, either. How are the Lancool 207's stock fans?

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>>106773553
>bros, I'm afraid 27" 4k's PPI might still be too low
>I just know that serif fonts are nowhere near perfectly rendered, even if they're better
https://www.amazon.com/KTC-Computer-Compatible-DisplayPort-H27P3/dp/B0FGX622GP
Come home.

>>106773633
Yes goyim, buy a 130 dollar cooler with 4 overpriced fans, overpriced xxxGAYMINGxxx mobo and 2 overpriced ssds instead of investing it into the GPU

All Gen 3 OLED monitors look the same visually and it's just down to refresh rate and if they use matte/glossy/Anti reflection coating?

>>106773692
refresh rates the same on the same panel
only thing you should worry about is the coating and the warranty

>>106773633
>>106773665
i have a dark rock elite cooler and i should have just bought a thermalright peerless assassin or thermalright phantom spirit. the arctic p14 pro pst pack is also nice. five fans 26€.

>>106773702
Well I meant 240Hz vs 360Hzfor refresh rate.
I went with a 240Hz 1440p panel because it was on sale at $500.

>>106773629
I doubt the fittings are responsible, all 4090 blocks are restrictive as fuck, but your CPU block is also fairly restrictive, add that your radiators look like they're pretty high fin per inch, so they're going to be very restrictive as well.

Those 5 fittings aren't helping things, but the biggest factor are the 2 radiators, and the blocks.

The next step is to look for higher-performance fans, and/or thicker radiators for more surface area on the fins.

>>106773723
Is Peerless assassin that good anyway?
I'm idling at 40-50 degrees on my roozen and hitting 95 anyway during the occt avx512 benchmark with my PA SE

New B580 vs lightly used Rx 6700xt?
for a 1080p budget build
any other cards i should consider?

>>106773743
what cpu do you have and do you use something like pbo?

>>106772784
>Technically there were reports on the x870e crosshair hero that it killed some 9800x3d but those date some months back.
God fucking damnit. That's my mobo and about when I bought it.

>>106773768
I'm using a 7700 and pbo +200mhz with the tdp/edc/tdc of the X yeah

>>106773815
well pbo is going to try to push your cpu to it's maximum thermal limit to extract the highest possible performance no matter the cooler really. max thermal limit for an 7700 is 95°C coensidently. you could try lowering it by setting a max limit in the bios to 90°C or 85°C.

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>>106773633
Do you live near a MicroCenter? Use PCPartPicker to build, edit, and post your parts list.

>AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D
>^Unsure whether I should just go ahead and pay the extra money for a 9950X3D; this thing isn't exactly going to be a rendering station, but I would like it to last.
Unless you were rendering or doing video editing the extra cores are a waste in your use case. Right now the 9800X3D isn't worth the extra $117 over the 7800X3D IMO (framerates are low single-digit % uplifts):
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/29.html
You can upgrade to whatever endgame CPU comes after it with how long AM5 will supported later down the line.

>>106773633
>No idea what I'm doing here- whether I should go with an AIO or a dual tower setup
A cheap air dual-tower cooler is plenty for an X3D
This PTM7950 stuff sounds interesting, but PCPartPicker doesn't even have a listing for it.
You can get it AliExpress which may/may not be the "real" stuff but at worst is ~85% as good:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804558022434.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2usa4itemAdapt
Or spend a lot more at LTT for guaranteed genuine sheets:
https://www.lttstore.com/products/ptm7950-phase-change-thermal-pad

>Gigabyte X870E AORUS
Chances are you don't need such an expensive board. 95% chance boards in the ~100-150$ give you everything you'd want.

>SSD
Don't pay the Samsung Tax as there's no real speed advantage

>Would it be better to pay the extra money for a 2x32 set instead?
If you plan to keep this system for like ~10 years maybe.

>"Look at your setup's projected wattage and double it" was the rule of thumb I was given
It's a fine rule but a lot of the wattage calculators assume a max load with both the CPU + GPU @ 100% at the same time which almost never happens which inflates the power rec. This system could easily be run on a 750W unit.

My initial recommendation: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HWypC8
I picked the *70 Ti as Nvidia has longer driver support than AMD

>>106773761
How much is the 2080ti and 3080?

>>106773895
you need a good psu for a 3080

>>106773665
Well, I'm sorry Anon- what would you recommend? Be specific.

>>106773723
>i have a dark rock elite cooler and i should have just bought a thermalright peerless assassin or thermalright phantom spirit
Any problems with leakage?

>>106773904
Need a decent one for a 6700xt too, sure a 3080 would be fine with an undervolt.

>>106770650
Imagine getting fragged by a guy and finding out he did it using this PC.

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PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT : DO NOT FALL FOR THE TOWER COOLER JEW, THE WHITE MANS CHOICE IS ALWAYS AN AIO OR CUSTOM LOOP! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED

>>106773665
theres only 2 gpus on the market worth buying other than the 9070xt and they are both more than double what a 9070xt costs

>>106770784
The other anons are right. If all you want is a router, an N100 mini PC is the way to go, and will be very low power.
However, if you want to design a system that has higher specs than that an Intel CPU can do pretty well at hitting low power at idle (which is likely to be the most important factor) and you can get power requirements down really low if you take note of C states, BIOS options, that kind of thing.
You can read more about this here:
https://mattgadient.com/7-watts-idle-on-intel-12th-13th-gen-the-foundation-for-building-a-low-power-server-nas/
He has a few other full-spec, low power builds.

What's the over-under on the Arc Pro b60 being a good productivity/content creation GPU (if you can even get one)? I've heard the arc b580 punches way above its weight in the productivity and creative applications dept, but I don't have any real experience with it to confirm.

>>106773634
very tempting price saar

>>106770784
>>106773954
I think it covers it in the article I linked, but one thing that you should know which is a little tidbit I didn't easily come across myself: if you put things on the chipset PCIe lanes and M2 slots it allows the CPU to go into deeper C states.
Because this relies on getting the right CPU motherboard combo, your used gaming PC idea is a little less viable, but maybe this gives you some information that helps you make it work.

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>>106773634
>ips slop

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Alright guys tell me:
Does disabling spread spectrum on pcie or the FCH do anything beneficial?

I just turned it off for my cpu bclk; not sure about the two other options.

and yes, my 9950x3d i bought for $525 on reddit is working perfectly at -18 curve offset.

>>106773124
I really like the ASRock challenger series. The challenger b580 is only $8 more than MSRP on newegg and has a good warranty and reputation (exploding 9800x3d issues aside).

>>106773915
>Any problems with leakage?
not really. it's just an overpriced cooler. it's heavy. big. ugly. doesn't allow me to use custom fans just like that. it is well made and quiet but in terms of temps not really much of an upgrade for like double the price of a thermalright but it came with the pc. it has also a gimmick of a switch under a magnetic cover. don't really like that and i don't know why be quiet added it to the cooler or their cases. like who goes and removes their side panel, then a magnetic cover just to switch their cooler from quiet to performance. i don't understand. same goes for gpus or cases with built in fan hubs with speed control. just set it in the bios or software. it just adds cost, complexity and a failure point.

>>106773521
I got a fake one stock paste seems fine for now hotspot under 65c

>>106773521
moddiy

>>106774146
i also heard that the original stuff is 0.25mm thick while non orginal stuff is 0.2mm thick. does someone know more?

>>106773627
might pick up a 79 nitro then, cause as much as I like how the 9070XT looks feel like the 79 will still retain value until the 9080 or whatever comes out next year

>>106774177
yes the real thing is 0.25mm but unless you got a tool to measure you cant tell. it could also melt slightly during shipping if it gets hot in some warehouse. other ways you can tell its real is that it melts at 45c so your idle temps should be roughly there and it should last forever clones may die out after 6 months.

>>106773471
Everyone should be using Optiscaler same as Reshade.

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>>106773937
BASED

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfqGqj2bFj8
wtf i love intlel now

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I just received the Q27G4ZMN mini led monitor and the black VA smearing is noticeable in text when scrolling. Should I return? The IPS mini led monitors I've previously bought have much shittier contrast and blooming than the AOC

>>106774346
>he fell for the va meme
yes return it and get a mini led ips

>>106774341
so much space yet so empty

>>106774346
Try the different overdrive settings. They change the voltages so the pixels transition faster or slower depending on the refresh rate

>>106774350
Mini LED and IPS is an oxymoron. IPS has dogshit contrast and local dimming does nothing for it. Look at any of the LG nanocell TVs. All IPS, literally almost killed off LGs LCD business till they started releasing VA mini LED TVs.

>>106774441
it has 3 480mm radiators, 28 fans, 2 d5 pumps. very much not empty

>>106773544
A770 is 1080ti 3060ti level fast now surely that's enough and 16gb is kino

>>106774268
How do I get it to work with games that don't have native fsr dlss xess like beamng vulkan or am I fucked I love bng but the aa is beyond shit even with mods

>>106774527
>3 480mm radiators, 28 fans, 2 d5 pumps
what a waste

>>106774346
bfi, turn down overdrive

>>106774341
4 rads? Why the fuck do u need 2kw of cooling for a 200w cpu and 500w GPU?

>>106774540
its hard running your fans at 15% and water temps never going up :(

>>106774544
like i said it's empty and a waste.
>>106774559
many fans at low rpm still make noise.

>>106774574
you want to come over and see how loud it is?

>>106773986
>ips slop
Show me a monitor that isn't IPS or VA or TN can last more then 15 years being left on 24/7 i want stability

>>106774606
A va monitor, not miniled since there's no way that makes it 15 years :)

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why do the new red devil gpus look so boring?

>>106774469
I checked with the UFO smearing test and the overdrive settings barely helped. There's still smearing, but I have only seen it in text and not ingame yet.

buy and get aids retard

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Is y-cruncher enough to test stability and how long do I need to run it?

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>>106774752
why does my CCD2 hit 91.9c max but the other one only goes to 86.2c?
The ccd2 runs cooler on average according to the far right (average) column.

I disabled variable refresh rate because applications or videogame menus running at 60 fps instead of maximum refresh rate looks ugly as fuck.

>>106774752
You don't need to run it too long if you just want to test the stock CPU, stop at around 2 hours for the mixed test.

>>106774764
>why does my CCD2 hit 91.9c max but the other one only goes to 86.2c?
If you have a 9950X3D, the chiplet with the 3D-Vcache (CCX) could run hotter than the one without it.

>>106772888
Huge coil whine card FYI

>>106774901
works on my machine

>>106773633
I have a thermalright phantom spirit 120 se cooling my 9800x3d and it's really good, the noctua one is way more expensive for a few degrees difference

>>106774901
i didnt notice the coil whine on my taichi 9070 xt until i water cooled it kek, imagine my surprise

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>>106773633
I wouldn't pick up a noctua cooler unless you're just trying to buy noctua stuff. I would grab an arctic aio at whatever size fits your case and stuff that case full of noctua fans. With that being said, I love noctua coolers.

So the arctic liquid freeze III pro is truly enough for a high end PC?

>>106774969
>nonstandard application
irrelevant

>>106774877
isn't ccd1 supposed to be the 3d cache one?

>>106775014
Maybe I got it the other way, the chiplet without the V-Cache might run hotter because it can boost higher.
But the temperature won't be the same.

Be honest with me, /pcbg/- how difficult is it for a first-timer to assemble their own PC?

How likely is it that I- as someone who's never so much as put together a Lego set- will break or at least damage one or more of the components before I get it right?

>>106775024
It depends on how much you're willing to get it right (do research, watch videos, read the manual, ask questions before you make mistakes, etc.)

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I've got a 1070. I can't think of a reason to upgrade but if I did, what would be a good next step?
I never got Warhammer 3 but it still plays Warhammer 2 maxed out... so I don't know what all these games are demanding these days.

>>106775024
Watch a 25 minute video, then watch it and do it along when you build it.

>>106775004
The Peerless Assassin is, but if you like the aesthetic of AIOs and don't mind spending the extra money then the Artic Liquid Freeze 3 Pro is a good one.


>>106775024

I just did my first build a few days ago, I was a bit nervous about breaking something but it went fine and wasn't that hard. Make sure you watch a lot of videos about your case specifically if possible.

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>>106775024
Remember to remove this PCIe connector cover before you try to install the video card in the PCIe slot (choose the slot that is closest to the CPU socket).
Some of the popular PC building guides don't cover this detail. My friend tried to fit his new card in the motherboard with that black PCIe cover still on the card.
He didn't damage any components and found out the cover needed to be removed after watching an unboxing video.

>>106775024
Find an old free computer. Take it apart and put it back together. If it still works you now know how to assemble a computer.

>>106775024
if you are mechanically clueless you should be very careful and watch lots of guides
but it's not actually hard to do, and everyone has to start somewhere

>>106774580
still a huge waste of space i only have one 420mm rad and 14 fans and thats more then enough and my 79xtx is on air ffs
unless your flexing its just dumb or running SLI/xfire which isnt a thing anymore

>>106774680
same thing with new Sapphire Pulse/Nitro+ its all just boring and that new 16pin hpwr can fuck itself as well
i have zero hope for rdna5/udna either now that fsr4 can run on rdna2/3

>>106774680
>6 pointed star
lmao

>>106774680
Fun fact about the Jewish star on the top left. They changed it to a five sided star after the first batches due to ((them))

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>>106774614
Does miniLED inherently have worse longevity or something?

>>106773561
It's like nobody realizes that CPU vddio exists and it being set to 1.40-1.45v on expo may not be a good idea long term

>>106775198
Nothing wrong with that. It's a perfectly good symbol even if you don't descend from a tribe of israel™

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>>106775297
The local dimming zones can get ridiculously bright with HDR enabled, which will heat the monitor.
But the peak brightness is limited to small portions of the screen.
Full screen, flashbang whites aren't displayed for a prolonged period in everyday use.

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>>106775297
>Does miniLED inherently have worse longevity or something?
It actually kinda does because the number of failure points goes up when you have multiple backlights (sometimes wired in series to save money so if a single one out of a 1000+ goes out it takes an entire group with it like old Christmas Tree lights). RTINGs recentyl showcased in their TV longevity tests:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Chcwz5LYiHs&list=PLR4J82Yzu_TWzfWVitIPe6ETbofFI4JCe&index=7

That said, it's nothing I would particularly lose sleep over.

>>106775199
Why? It's correct.

>>106775361
Exactly

So...
Do you all like your LEDs or would you really rather have a tower that just sits there.
Answer honestly.

>>106775388
I'm more of an incandescent bulbs kind of person

>>106775391
Would be hilarious to see a PC lit up with C6 Christmas incandescent bulbs and making your PC fight the heat for no reason.

>>106773561
>stock settings and then gaming with high temps
That makes no sense, stock settings are deliberately low to prevent high temps.

>>106775391
>IR is based

>>106775199
>>106775198
no fun allowed

Which do you think is the worse option, dealing with IPS glow and backlight bleed, or VA smearing and shitty viewing angles?

>>106775586
IPS > VA. it can glow as lang as it wants. smearing makes my head hurt.

>>106775136
works on my machine

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85€ - 5500GT
100€ - 13400F
120€ - 8500G
130€ - 225F
150€ - 7600X
170€ - 245KF

I see new intel ultra gone down in price
is it worth going for a gaming rig?

>>106775034
save money get 9070XT
or look for a used 67-6800XT from AMD
Seems like the older GTX from nVid AMD copied and just made faster in current and semi-previous gen cards
if you don't care about raytrace or DLSS

>>106773986
3000:1 trueblack IPS is pretty nice.

>>106775676
probably better to get a 7600x (or 9600x if within $10) now and upgrade to an x3d in 4 years

question about ram, if two kits have the same subtimings, the one with the lower voltage (1.35 vs 1.4) would be the better binned one?

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After all… why not? Why shouldn’t I use a 9950x3d with a 47mm cooler?

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>>106775758
>3000:1 trueblack IPS is pretty nice.
It's more like 2000:1 but it's still a shame we haven't seen any IPS Black MiniLED monitors yet:
https://www.displayninja.com/ips-black-monitor-list/
Could reduce the blooming of MiniLED-IPS without the smearing of MiniLED-VA.
Then again we could also go full Dual-Cell but LCD makers are cowards that are going to lie down and die like dogs at the feet of OLED.

>>106775790
Yes

Guys I wanna upgrade my 1080ti. I will not buy cards that have raytracing or AI hardware in them. So what is my best option?

>>106775855
gtx 980ti

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building a pc soon wat do u think? im putting my old gtx 1080 in there temporarily and 32gb ram i have. was looking at the b580 for a 1440p card

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>>106775855
Here you go.

>>106775863
wrong fan meant to add noctua nhL9a instead. this is a budget build

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>>106775915
does that mean its a fire hazard?

>>106775946
nah i just like how much power you can cramp into those new small pc cases.

>>106775855
Get the 4090 and you are set for atleast 10 years.

>>106775863
Does that motherboard even fit in the case

>>106775983
yea also you can fit an mATX instead of an ITX with a part

>>106776015
mb i added the wrong case i meant to add the meshroom D

So i don't care if 2k or 1080p i just want to know... XIAOMI G27Qi vs GIGABYTE GS25F2

>>106775855
>best card without AI or RT
you already own it
Its time to stop being a Luddite and grow up

>>106775855
5700XT, Vega 56/64, Radeon VII

>microcenter has a 5070 for 450 dollars near me
I can't waitfag any longer, the supers aren't even confirmed

>>106776360
damn gud deal
booy now and sleep well for idk years

how does one properly undervolt Zen 5?
PBO off with negative CO?

>t. ex-poorfag student coming from old ass craptops

>>106776383
PBO needs to be activated to use CO so just PBO ON and go into the CO menu, set it to negative offset and type 10 into the box

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>>106772826
And a question about monitor arms, my desk is in front of a window sill (I tried to visualize it on the image), so mounting them to the desk itself would likely be difficult, but could I mount them to the sill itself? The clamp would have to be the reverse, and the arm would have to dip somewhat low for the monitors to not be too high (although with the way I often sit reclined, if they can be tilted forward, it'd be fine). Any recommendations for monitor arms on the cheaper side?

>>106776397
understood
is it just as simple as that? Will probably set it per core if I ever find more time to test

>>106776411
All-core CO saves a lot of time while per-core is for final fine tuning and takes a lot longer to verify stability

So are 13th and 14th gen intel cpus ok to buy now? Its been some time and i have been out of the loop. Were the issues ever fixed?

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>>106776423
muchas gracias

>>106776397
>set it to negative offset and type 10 into the box
this is a reasonable suggestion
-10 is 30-50 mV which might be all some chips can handle
>>106776437
yes, they are safe with the new microcode/BIOS
but they also run slightly worse than in launch reviews
nothing noticeable for a 14600K or 14700K but a 14900K or KS will throttle harder than on the old unsafe BIOS

>>106776343
all slower than the card he already has

>>106775855
Given those constraints there is no upgrade path, you are maxed out.

>>106776461
So what. 12th 13th and 14th gen now just all work the same?

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>>106776496
no? there's a voltage limit now for safety, and 6ghz requires a lot of voltage to run, so you won't see the same performance numbers as you did in launch reviews
but 13th and 14th gen is still faster than 12th gen

>>106775855
Only card fitting your parameters is probs Titan XP. Which would only provide you with about +4% perf and +1GB VRAM.

>>106776461
I recently had to lower my undervolt offset from -15 to -10 because my 9800x3d was consistently crashing E33 in the first minute of a new game
It ran perfectly fine for the last 10 months too so certain UE5 games are just really good at exposing instability

>>106776524
yep
i couldn't run more than -10 on my old 5800X either
i think a lot of people had success running -30 on the 5800X3D and 7800X3D because those were artificially frequency and power capped by AMD, and it created false expectations for other chips

Just low-rolled silicon, my 9950x3d can take -20 across both ccds.

>>106776527
It depends on your ram setup too. I've always run tuned ram in my systems and that causes the CPU to run faster and hotter than it would with just jedec or xmp/expo ram.

>>106776546
well yeah you paid $800 for it you're supposed to get high quality silicon
>>106776547
>I've always run tuned ram in my systems and that causes the CPU to run faster and hotter than it would with just jedec or xmp/expo ram
same but i'm not convinced that does anything other than expose instability faster
you were always running with insufficient voltage, get a workload that runs out of L3 cache like prime95 small FFTs and try 1 thread, 2 threads, 4 threads, 6 threads, 8 threads, etc...

>>106776564
>$800
$650, but close enough. I thought I've seen plenty of anons in these threads running 9800x3ds at -20ish.

>>106776564
My chip passes y-cruncher VT3 at -15
I think the UE5 shader compilation in E33 is just too spiky and exposes transient instability better than y-cruncher does. Also prime95 is useless on most zen CPUs since they'll run straight into EDC/PPT throttling

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Anons it's fine to left a 9800x3d with just the default BIOS config? (no PBO, undervolt, etc) I'dont wanna fry the CPU/MB with all that racket going on

>>106776572
people run all kinds of unstable setups
there was an anon that had like -200mv on his 14600K and his cinebench score was half of stock but he didn't realize it before i pointed it out because he never tested it (CEP kicking in)
most people just don't test their setups properly
but of course, there are also many 9800X3Ds that can do -20 CO and beyond, you just shouldn't suggest it to someone who has never tuned their system before
>>106776573
>I think the UE5 shader compilation in E33 is just too spiky and exposes transient instability
ryzen should deal with undershoot by clock stretching, it does that all the time even at stock
UE5 shaders are compressed with oodle which is extremely well optimized, it's possible oodle is heavier than VT3
>Also prime95 is useless on most zen CPUs since they'll run straight into EDC/PPT throttling
limit it to a few threads only

>>106776572
>>106776601
I put my 9800x3d on -20 CO (and +200 clock) for >>106760759 seemed stable with stress tests on prime 95 and cinebench.

>>106776614
i would at least do a core cycling test to ensure +200 is stable on all cores
like the other anon said P95 is gonna run into throttling and cinebench isn't a stress test

>>106775034
5070 super or 5070 ti super in a few months
>>106774752
It's enough honestly for most users
A few hours at least

Going slightly over my budget, no thanks to PSU

Is expensive monitor really worth it? I'm blind as bat anyway, can I just cheap out on $200 monitor

>>106776767
Just make sure it's ips and high refresh rate

>>106776767
Expensive is relative. If you want the consensus best image quality then you'd need OLED and a $500 OLED is considered cheap because of what it offers. You also have MiniLED VA monitors for $300 like those AOC/KTC ones which is more than $200 but still considered cheap also because of the image quality they offer and the HDR experience (OLED is also excellent for HDR). For $200 you'll be able to find high refresh rate monitors but they'll be shit old tech like IPS and without any backlight control e.g. local dimming for increased contrast. Depends on what you want out of the monitor ultimately.

>>106776621
Okay. I'll give it a go. How long should I run it for?
Cinebench had the bit longer "test stability" option (altho still not that long), I meant with that.

>>106773633
1200w psu for no actual reason...
Buy a 750-850w good psu like the nzxt c850 atx 3.1, or the 1000w version if the price difference is negligible.

greetings anons , i require your knowledge today im a student who flies 4 times a year in order to see my dad and i want to buiild a matx case , i got my asus tuf b850m gaming and i coupled it with a hellhound 9070xt , can any of you bros advice me any small factor cases which i can fit my gpu in ? im currently eyeing deepcool ch160 plus , im not gonna go through that micro itx cable extension stuff , thus i already have purchased the air cooler (a pretor 130 and imgonna get a 7800x3d as a cpu) every single case advice will be appreciated bros

>>106774670
have fun having a 12gb vram at 2k
:-DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

>>106777076
vram schizos dont seem to understand pc games having the option to turn texture quality to medium or something

>>106777079
keep sucking nvidia's cock anon you are doing well , they are messing up with you and making fun of you big time....

>>106777082
this website is 18+

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>>106777087

I wish I was a woman so bad.

>>106777076
I use 10GB vram at 1440p and haven't experienced any issues. 8GB might be an issue in some games which don't allow you to reduce vram by using lower quality settings. The main takeaway from this whole vram debate is 8GB is cutting it tight but if you have over 8GB you should be in for a perfectly fine experience. Hell I use 10GB for 4K (with and without DLSS). For example I've been playing battlefront 2 (new version) and it doesn't support DLSS but at native 4K max settings I get 120-150 fps depending on the map. And battlefront 2 looks better than pretty much any modern AAA game. Thankfully most modern AAA games have DLSS anyway which gives better performance and also reduces VRAM since its sub-4K internal resolution.

Is it ever ok to go below 60 fps? I'm playing Silent Hill F at 4k with max setting and it only ever goes to 48 fps for a bit and sometimes fights, but other than that the game is fine. This is with me using FSR and AFMF

>>106777239
you have vrr but why not just lower the base resolution to get more fps

>>106777268
I'm using performance mode at 4k.

>>106777280
then lower in game settings or your gpu is too weak for a 4k monitor

>>106777292
So you're saying I should play in window mode or lower the settings?

>>106777298
check out how many frames you get with ps5 equivalent settings

>>106777306
Alright.

>>106777239
>Dipping so hard with FSR AND AFMF
Literally unplayable.
Max settings are a meme.
I hope you are at least using FSR4.

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>>106777239
just use the nvidia app graphics optimisation slider. keep turning it down by one level till performance is to your liking.

>>106775863
check the motherboard: M-ATX motherboard likely won't fit in a Mini-ITX case

>>106775676
this

what parts are the used budget kings these days?

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>>106776852
I gave it three default iterations, no errors.

>>106777554
if you're shopping around for resold parts, probably intel. For gpus, on the leadup to, and right after a new set of gpus are released, there's always a bunch of FOMO gamers who try to offload their gpus on the cheap to buy the Current Thing, you can score a deal then.

www.jawa.gg is a popular site for this, or Ebay. Try either one.

The amd AM4 platform would be a great place to get a budget used deal too, but its showing its age desu. If you lived near me (aust) i'd just give you my old mobo+5900x+ram.

>>106774247
>is that it melts at 45c so your idle temps should be roughly there
My CPU and GPU idles under 30C with PTM
All the melting does is conform to the mounting pressure and voids.
After that idle temps are just as good as any paste
If your idling at 45c something is wrong

>>106777347
>nvidia app
You guys unironically have that bloat installed?

>>106777730
yes

>>106777736
Pretty cringe desu senpai, but I guess expected from consoomers.

>>106777744
yes >90% of people on desktop pcs own an nvidia gpu

How retarded is to combine a620m pro rs with 7800x3d ?

>>106777753
I've got a 4070Ti, I don't have the nvidia garbage bloat app installed.

You made the choice to install that bloat, I just don't know why you'd make that choice.

>>106777771
sucks to be you

>>106777719
because you have your fans on
with zero rpm it stays at 45c because thats the optimal temperature

“muh bloat” autists are always a treat

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>have 14900k
>have 4080 super
I am happy
Why is everyone else miserable?

>>106777857
why did you buy that cpu

>>106777845
>>106777831
Honestly, I feel the same for you "people"

Imagine thinking the geforce "experience" app isn't just retarded bloatware designed to monitor you.

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>>106777870
I had the money and z690 boards where cheap around March of last year

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>>106777857
>Nvidia drivers in 2025

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>>106777920
>AMD drivers in any year

>>106777932
You mean the default driver for Linux?

>>106777730
>bloat

Why wouldn't I? Its a one stop shop for everything graphics related. I can get my driver there, change DLSS profiles, optimise games, record gameplay and more.

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Gentle reminder that the 9800X3D is worth the money ONLY if it's paired with a 9070XT/ 5070Ti at least AND at 1080p AT low/medium video settings.

>>106777940
>sure it's bloat, but I use some of that bloat!
oh okay

>>106777951
at least digital foundry talked about how they want to show cpu reviews with variety of gpus and resolutions
hardware unboxed attitude about the whole debacle was confusing
>dude just buy the best cpu you can afford lmao
>diminishing returns dont exist

>>106777954
The app is like 150mb. It's a barebones app but it has a ton of functionality to get the best out of your nvidia card. There's no reason not to have it installed. Shadowplay is still probably the best DVR implementation on the market.

>>106778046
Steam overlay can record at this point as well.

>>106778093
So can windows natively, but neither are as good as shadowplay. And also don't you have to add non steam games to your steam library to get the overlay because I like the steam performance overlay but I'm not going to waste time importing a bunch of games into steam just for it when rivatuner is objectively better but just not as nicely laid out as steams performance overlay.

>>106778136
>>106778136
>>106778136

>>106777951
If you can't suggest the x3d processors on am5 for low/mid range builds Intel becomes arguably a more valuable buy again even for video games, and as you know we can't suggest anyone other than scrappy underdog amd.

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>>106777076
>>106777104
>'h-h-have fun'
They will, considering game devs need to keep those card owners happy.
See what happened with Alan Wake 2. Remedy had to update the game to work on GTX cards because they needed to find more revenue source.

>>106777857
4080 aged well, with it still beating 5080 in some titles

Are black Friday/cyber Monday sales still a thing? Thinking about building a new pc in November, not sure if I should hit up the microcenter or whatever

>>106778586
Technically yes but it's been a while since widespread sales that are genuinely good.

>>106772724
>(thanks amd)
Have you seen the benchmarks for this game? They really underplayed the necessary power to run this game. It's demanding a fucking 6900 xt to reach 60 fps on epic settings at 1080p. It's one of the most unoptimized unreal engine games released recently. Only 4090's and above are breaking 60 fps at 1440p. It's just a terribly optimized game, anon, it's not on your new GPU.

>>106772759
This.

>>106777165
tell us the games greazed monkey