How is the online ad industry fucking real, how is it such a big thing, how isn't this just a massive scam with bots clicking each other, there's no way this is sustainable unless it's just a massive psyop to harvest data paid by governments or something, investors can't be this stupid
The "industry" is just a front for demons harvesting your loosh with engagement bait.
>>106776664PPC arbitrage
>>106776664Most ads are visible since most don't use adblock, that being said to pay by the click is indeed a scam.
>>106776664i think it's all fake. jewgle claims to do $260B a year in ad revenue. there's no way.
>>106776664scammers scamming other scammers.welcome to the vibrant and VERY colorful world of marketing
>>106776664most people are oblivious too how much personal information they share with ad companies, which in turn suggest very relevant advertisements for them, like suggesting the exact thing they were just talking about needing to buy but through a referal to basically a scam version where they just pay more than they would if they did just a little bit of research.
>>106777542Over like 20 years on being online I probably bought something from an ad maybe once or twice. I pretty sure most people I know are in the same situation. How is it possible for it to generate so much money ?? Boggles my mind
The answer: womenWomen buy shit from ads all the time
>>106777542I watch youtube on my work laptop which does not allow me to install ad block. google will fucking push foreign product as which are not even available here. Google is just shoving ads to people that advertisers dont want and collecting money from them
>>106776664How do you make your brand and products visible on internet without internet? Still, Google ads is a fucking scam. They do all they can to waste your money on irrelevant targeting
>>106776664normies eat this shit up. You ever talk with normies about this? None use adblock and at least half of them actually like the ads. They literally talk about them with each other like they talk about music, women especially. >>106777732https://girlpowermarketing.com/statistics-purchasing-power-women/Exactly right. I remember my mother and sister came to visit me and the amount of useless garbage they bought for my place was dumbfounding, we're talking garbage bags of useless crap they deemed essential. Socitey is extremely sick in the head
>>106776664I can explain how scAmazon does it.>Sell user search data to merchants>Merchants see that people want specific product.>The have a knockoff versions of the same product.>PPC arbitrage to get people to see their more cheaply priced knockoff whenever they search for the original product.And just like that amazon makes more profit from ad revenue than the profitability of the actual ecommerce sales.
>>106777732*Women and richfags, bonus points if it’s both.Those raid shadow legends ads aren’t looking for women, they’re looking for whales to milk.
Traffic + offer = £££If I send 1000 clicks to my page, it costs me only a few dollars, I only need 1 sale to make a profit.Lets of people game it. Blackhat online marketing is a whole industry in itself. But these people always eventually get banned by ad networks.
>>106778405Women are dumb consumer cattle. My mom also buys useless crap all the time.
>>106778600Same here, anon
>>106778600Just like you, you dumb consumer cattle.>>106776664It isn't it's money laundering, tax evasion and printing money. They're not dumb, THEY know.I paid for numerous 4chan ads for my Discord server and after 3000 clicks I realized it was nothing but bots because none of them clicked to join the Discord, I mean they didn't even attempt to join yet they clicked the ad. You diidn't even need a Discord account to attempt to join.4chan is indeed nothing but 30M+ israel bots Those 200M+ israel bot farms are real, those bots are real. You are talking to a combination of XML copy-paste ragebait enagement posts that type random Cleverbot garbage that requires 0 LLM and a bunch of adclick bots. You can find these bots especially on /pol/ where they start a thread by themselves and post on their own thread and then post generic stock replies to one another and any human who attempts to reply to them. They post "engagement" ragebait such as "You're a faggot, shill, OP is a faggot, you suck" and then you have actual fleshbots from singapore, phillipines, the middle east, africa and sometimes south america, mostly Brazil and Argentina.
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>>106776664I really feel like it's a giant house of cards where no one wants to admit people don't click the ads because then it collapses everythingYouTube especially. if you're broke enough that you both use YouTube as your primary form of entertainment (over paid streaming or cable) and you don't pay for Premium, you're too broke to afford ANYTHING they could advertise to you
>>106781220people dont make a decision to not pay for streaming services or premium because 10 dollars costs too much, the decision is made over said services being trash garbage. youtube premium is literal gatekept features that can be bypassed just by using a different web browser - that is not a service worth paying for.
I advertise and sell shit. It's like Etsy tier though. Nothing exciting. This >>106777732 basically.
>>106776664>investors can't be this stupidYes they canInvestors will spend 100 million on 100,000 companies in the hopes that 1 will make 10 billion and they don't know what or why or when that will happen That's the entire industry
drug money laundering
>>106776664It literally is a scam tho. I'm pretty sure YouTube admits that it's advertisements are watched by more bots than actual humans
>>106777721holy bubble
>>106776664You'd be surprised how few people know what adblock is. I've personally installed it on maybe a dozen people's browsers, friends and family. I installed it on my gf's computer a year or two ago, but she changed browsers or something and I had to do it again recently when we watched a youtube video. Most people are only partially sentient and the constant aggressive advertising doesn't bother them. I watched a football game with family last year, and it had been so long since I had seen TV ads that I realized that the ads are mastered to have louder audio than the main broadcast for the first time. There was a ~5db bump in loudness when the program changed over to ads
It also baffles me how bad ads are at profiling me even though they got 5 million highly paid 150IQ chinks at Meta and Google tweaking the algorithm every single day.E.g. I currently got into fragrances a couple of weeks ago. It's basically everything I consume online. I do have ABP installed but nothing more than that and not on apps that don't support adblockers.Currently I would even be a little bit impressionable for cologne ads.But did I get a SINGLE cologne, perfume, fragrance ad since then? Nope, all completely useless unrelated garbage.
>>106782309>Most people are only partially sentient and the constant aggressive advertising doesn't bother themI don't understand how it's even possible. Most websites are completely unusable with no adblocker
>>106782617the jews are right, cattle
>>106781202TrvkeI immediately thought of this and I know the average norm believes this wholeheartedly just like how the unvaccinated are a danger to the vaccinated lmao, you cant make this shit up
>>106782788>the unvaccinated are a danger to the vaccinatedThat's true though. Vaccines are never 100% effective so having unvaxxed plague rats running around will eventually kill a few people. It's already happening in burgerland with measles.
>>106782799So what's the point of your vaccine, never mind, keep boosting tard, clean up the genepool lol
>>106782810The point is to stop people getting sick.
>>106782827Good for you, tell your family to get their yearly vaccines too
>>106778405>Women account for 91% of purchases of all new homes and 66% of all purchases of home PC's[X] Doubt
>>106782847Good for me? Don't you think vaccines are le bad? It should be bad for me.
>>106782865Yes that's why you should take them
>>106782930It's funny how stating basic facts has already made you have a meltdown.
>>106783007I thought vaccines can cure you, why are you having a meltdown after I told you to take your vaccines
>>106776664ad providers don't either, and they don't need toit's not falsifiable, it's treated like a ritual rather than a business, like putting an ad up was the first step in a rude goldberg machine that lead to growth, and nobody in that chain was aware that it was happening, and nobody could reverse engineer and replicate it even if they wanted to anyway
>>1067766641. It definitely is a front for a mass surveillance operation2. There are millions of people who actually do pay attention to ads, and who pay for products based on ads. Maybe you turned off the TV or changed the channel as a kid when the ads came on, but many people routinely bought those "call now limited time offer" products you'd see advertised. I can only imagine ads work even more effectively on these people now that the ads shown are based on an exhaustive profile of everything that person has ever done.Even if a person never sees an ad or never buys anything, the data harvested from him can still be used to train predictive models to draw in more suckers, and of course with AI training there's even more incentive than ever.
>>106776664>>106777721You are on 4chan. That means you are atypical.Normal people actually like seeing advertisements, and they do click on them. The only demographic on the internet that uses adblockers is 16-40yr old men.
>>106776664It’s a huge circlejerk that sustains itself because literally everybody involved is invested in it continuing. Advertising services obviously want to keep making money doing fuck all, sites ads are on obviously want to keep making money doing fuck all, and those buying ad slots don’t want to miss out on the potential customers they’ve been psyopped into believing will click on their dog shit ads.Advertising is a zero sum game, either you’re advertising so people know you exist (legitimate) or trying to brainwash people into thinking they need to buy your shit (illegitimate). With the advent of the internet, the first purpose became largely moot, because it is so easy to find out about products that ads serve little purpose. So the majority of traditional internet advertising is the second type, with the former largely moving to sponsorships (although those are also heavily used by the second type), word of mouth (review sites, people just using the product), while traditional advertising has slowly withered and died. The predictable result of this is that they start perverting word of mouth, reviews and sponsorships, which will gain them some quick money in the short term, but will quickly result in nobody trusting a thing any influencer or article says unless it’s empirical and fact based, or comes from those with proven principals. They’re already doing this, paid reviews, threatening reviewers, bots, paid shill armies, you name it, someone is doing it. The intent is to flood the internet with so much bullshit you can only make decisions based on their bullshit marketing fuckery.In short, advertising is a moral evil and in the age of the internet has no practical, moral value, and thus only exists to lie in order to sell more trash. Assume any recommendation made by someone online is biased, and adjust your expectations accordingly. Prefer sources that use repeatable uniform and empirical metrics alongside more subjective ones.
>>106782087Locking background playback on mobile behind Premium is inexcusable. The majority of the features they make you pay for cost YouTube nothing to offer, the only thing that makes any sense is no ads, and some of the access to movies and shit you get with it. They also keep raising the price
>>106782309>>106782617I’m of the belief most people develop “ad-blindness”. They’re unaware that there are other options, and thus just learn to blank out the noise. You don’t know how much better it could be until you’ve experienced it, and many aren’t savvy enough to realise the dogshit experience on websites isn’t “just the way it is”, it’s an intentional choice driven by advertising
>>106782848You think men are buying new homes? Do you even know what that signs you up for? You have to pay sales tax on a new home anon. Also what's the prime factor involved in home purchasing? That's right, we just got married and wifey wants that brand new home they just built in that new suburb. Sign us up.Women ARE the consumer market and it's why even mens razor ads are directed at them.
If you think about it, ad ecosystem and by extension, the entire economy is just one big scam. ads are propaganda to sell more, therefore to produce more in a finite system. This drives scarcity which increases prices and profit.Successful products are not measured by their quality, but by their profit. So artificially inflating value has become the norm. Hence marketing: a coverup word hiding the fact that it basically boils down to scamming/lying.The epiphany of this economic model, and a prime example, is the labubu doll: it has no real value, it's just some plastic/polyester/die in the form of a little doll. The value is artificially increased by creating a fake scarcity: only painting a limited percentage in certain colors, and selling them all in blind boxes while paying influencers/ads to create a hype as big as possible.The truth is you're buying plastic/polyester/die and the envy of your perceived adversary. All while the ocean is already full of plastic, while sucking on a paper straw to make you feel better about yourself.
>>106778600Like you and your incessant buying of- video game hats- D&D paraphernalia, figurines and “backpack of holding” - a new PC and graphics card every 2 years because you can’t be bothered to clean dust out of anything- doretos, coca cola, TV dinners, and instant noodles because you can’t cook anything- T shirts with clever sayings on them- bluetooth gadgets because you hate cords fir some reason, even though you hardly move for hoursAll wastes of monies
>>106776670>demons harvesting>>106783276>16-40yr old men.I was about to say well this includes a lot of the market, then I remembered women buy 80% of the crap. I cant understand the ad revenue space because I dont understand women and also hate them.>>106784750>Women ARE the consumer market and it's why even mens razor ads are directed at them.
Its fraud its, fake look into your heart you know its true, the money is fake the numbers are fake hell half the ads are ai shit for a product that doesnt even exist. What is happening is the single biggest case of organized fraud in human history
>>106776664>How is the online ad industry fucking realit's not, it's all payoffs and smoke and mirrors and businesses that don't know any better getting ripped off
>>106776685So it's a ponzi scheme? That's my only guess after googling it for a couple seconds. Explain like I'm retarded
>>106785267traffic is cheap compared to one user out of 1000 buying a product that costs $50.basically its just math and calculation.
>>106785301There's no way 1 out of every 1000 users even intentionally clicks on an ad, let alone buys a $50 product.
>>106785312depends on the targeting, desire level, market segment.keep in mind, you may have a naive view of the situation because you only see cheap scam ads because if you dont have any money, this is all known via your identity and consumer profiles = your data/eyeballs arent worth a lot = crappy ads.
The offline ad industry is actually SO much worse. When no engagement is tracked at all, the level of influence your ad has on the audience is based on 23 layers of bullshit that some random suits have concocted. And it's really expensive.
>>106785392at the same time when you put up your fat dancing nigger ad in the middle of times square it's pretty easy to confirm that yup, there's a 60 ft nigger tranny in times square
>>106783020He probably needs a new booster.
>>106785410Exactly
Yes, it's mostly a ponzi scheme. Clicks are mostly fake. Big corporations do pay into it just for the propaganda value. This is the case for most ads, not just 4chan: >>106781178 >>106785312 Most people never do, but a minority of people do quite often. Realistically the ad companies know which people are gullible but they're gatekeeping them to make more money.>>106782343This too, it's almost never properly targeted. Except for instagram that will give you ads for exactly what you talk about (it listens through the mic)...There's also nearly zero checking of the ads, literal scams are rampant on "top tier" advertisement platforms like youtube and instagram. I recently saw one impersonating the countries largest electronics retailer, how do they not catch that?>>106785392>>106785410Offline advertisements are the only ones worth something to more sensible people. It builds trust, shows it's not just a scammer from russia or whatever. Seeing something on tv means it's legal and somewhat reputable.
>>106776664>investors can't be this stupidyes they are. the process is like this: 1. print money (because have to pay debt) 2. banks get the money first. 3. banks invest in tech companies first4. tech companies fire natives and hire 10x indian slaves
>>10677754210 years ago google was dominant search engine and had adds. Now its still dominant and still has adds. Stock grew many times population using google not so much.Its all money printed by intelligence agencies.
>>106783276>Normal people actually like seeing advertisementsYou are insane and terminally online
>>106776664Getting a whiff of that >advertising doesn't work on meattitude from you OP, and I gotta tell you, the marketers are all laughing at you. If you actually think that like I think you do, you aren't considering the entirety of what happens to put a product in the hands of customers. Advertising is an important step and it works, mostly because one: people always have needs to be met which can be anticipated and nurtured towards a sale, and two: sales funnel data proves attribution. There's definitely a lot of ads that fall flat or don't hit their targeted audience or were just poorly conceived, and there's shitty non-functional sales funnel tracking out there too, but that isn't the same as the entire industry being a sham or only bots or whatever. Execs and directors watch customer acquisition cost like hawks because managing it is the difference between life or death for a business, which is why there's a whole field of specialists and experts who make their living handling it.I'd go so far as to say in many cases advertising is the primary reason for a brand's continued success, especially in markets where products are at near-parity. In these cases advertising appeals to the consumer's values to let them know which choice is the right one for them, e.g. Nike vs Adidas. Whichever brand strikes the right chord with the consumer wins the sale, hence all the social/cultural activism that's been so popular over the last twenty years. A lot of black people buy the sneakers that support Colin Kapernick, for example. You might picture a TV commercial or a billboard, but people spend their time online so it's all youtube ads and feed inserts these days. Sure adblock extensions and DNS filtering exist but most people really can't be bothered, especially with DNS. Imagine some abuelita tinkering with device settings after a hard day scrubbing hotel rooms, it just doesn't happen.
>>106777721When was the last time you have been in the major social media, Facebook?
>>106777732Pretty much this. My wife turns off wifi on her phone when browsing Faceberg and shit because the DNS ad blocking breaks all the damn ad links she wants to click. Need to see if there are cracked APKs that filter out Sponsored content at the app level. Women are of course just a subset of normies, but are the largest group.
>>106787573>10 indians pay 2000 dollars for a room in a basement of 1960s house>boomer uses money to finance mortgage for a new overly expensive house>10 indian slaves goes to walmart to buy rice and spices in bulk.>economy is growing>the holly GDP is up
>>106777732Women bought shit 10 years ago too. They didnt start buying 5x more shit.
