https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYM3TWf_G38new design and no longer spyware!
that logo is a crime against humanity, you irish prick
>>106781639soulless dogshit
>>106781639
>No, no, no! This can't be happening! Agreed /g/bros
>2025...I am forgotten
>>106781639>wxwidgets swapped for qtFUCKING FINALLYThis wxWidgets UI was looking atrocious and working just as same
>>106781639/g/ tourist hereIt was spyware? It always seemed to me like one of the purest most innocuous programs imaginable.
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT LOGO THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING NOOOOOOO
>>106781939>It was spyware?After it was acquired they immediately pushed an update about 'telemetry'
>>106781854it's a blood sperm
>i think we can all agree that the old logo is outdated and needed a makeoverno, it was perfectly fine before.the only way a logo can be outdated is that it contains the new york skyline with the twin towers still in it
>>106782034It's cucked now? dang
They massacred my boy
>>106781639I thought flatshit was on its way out.
new logo looks like for some music player from playstore that is riddled with ads
>>106782034Well shit, my version is from 2019 so I guess I was safe.
>>106781639Thanks. I hate it
Could have went with something like picrel or similar instead of what ever that red abomination is
>>106782569that looks horrible still
>>106782589because I can't be bothered drawing something other than a mockup right now
>>106782626no your idea sucks
>>106782633bring something better
>>106781639just based off that logo has switched me off it forever
>>106781639okay shitting on that faggot youtuber's reaction video garbage has be back on their side
>>106781639They're trying to position Audacity as one of the apps in the Muse suite, copying the Adobe Creative Suite design. It's some sorry squashed thing to match the rest of these icons. While it looks better in the red rounded rectangle, I'd say it intentionally looks a bit shit to make MuseScore or something look like the more premium option. You wouldn't want just one Muse icon on the taskbar, right? Only the free one? What are you, poor?
>>106782742Are these all made by the same company? I'm genuinely confused
>>106782764Audacity was bought by Muse, yes.
>>106782742I withdraw this comment. MuseScore is free and available on Linux, looks very polished, and is actually a sheet music editor. I think they all are free? This doesn't seem to be a marketing scheme to buy anything like Adobe. I'm confused by what this is.
>>106782589>>106782633Nah it looks good and suitable for the minimalism trend.Not saying that I like it, though. Modern logos have no soul
>>106781639https://youtu.be/qF7MsBtZx08?t=12genuine reaction
>>106782742Nothing screams audio to me more than a circle and a triangle
>>106782817Very very wrong.Musescore is the gayest most Jewish most nigger tier kikeware product ever created.The sheet music editor is "free", sure.But as part of the experience they spam with NON-STOP nagging about uploading your newly created sheets to musescore.comAnd that's where they fuck you.If you upload your sheet to musescore it becomes part of their sheet music library and you automatically waive your legal rights to provide the arrangement anywhere else. After doing all the work creating the sheet music, you're handing copyright of it to musescore. The musescore website and mobile apps for browsing the sheet music library are also predatory kikeware. Every time you open the app you're greeted with a full-screen unskippable ad nagging you to subscribe. Fuck this company.Fuck their near monopoly on online sheet music.
>>106782894>If you upload your sheet to musescore it becomes part of their sheet music library and you automatically waive your legal rights to provide the arrangement anywhere else.>After doing all the work creating the sheet music, you're handing copyright of it to musescore.I am glad living in a country where a license like this is void.
>>106781639why do they all do this soulless logo shit
new features look goodthe rebrand is fucking retarded
>>106782894>>Fuck their near monopoly on online sheet music.that cannot be that difficult to rip and pirate
>>106781639The logo is shit but the redesign is good.Is QT the only good choice now?
fl studio chads won
>>106782742musescore is such a shit piece of shitand they're retarded thinking anyone would pay for itif im going to pay for shit ill buy doricoand if not im gonna keep using lilypond
I thought we switched to tenacity? is audacity still relevant?
>>106782569
>>106781639Whoever approved that logo is a fucking moron.
>>106782742Wait. These guys are the fuckers who fucked Ultimate Guitar and sell people's tabs for their own profit?I am piss rage diamond.
>>106781639>>106782569Just fuck with the colors a bit and it's as good as new.
>>106781639I downloaded a new version of Audacity recently to try something out and it was constantly trying to get me to install their shitty malware MuseHub and advertising paid plugins. Don't care one way or another about redesigning the whole program but fuck off with this shit
>>106785027Dude same. They push you to install an app just to see chord shapes. Completely ridiculous. BACK IN MY DAY we had Ultimate Guitar and Guitar Pro to learn any songAlso yes, that looks like a red sperm. Just what the fuck.
Just to remind everyone, there's no reason to update from Audacity 2.4.2
>>106781639finally a properly designed logo.every linux project should take notes.
>>106784523Good morning saar
>>106781639I could SHIT a better logo.
>>106781639what the fuck is that shit?
>>106782817They try to charge to download MIDI/project files they have absolutely no rights to, and tried to legally fuck an open source dev who made a workaround. They only care about "open source" when it gets them brownie points.
>>106785172I use dark audacity, should I go to 2.4.2 or tenacity?
>>106784482I can't move the recordings around horizontally on this fork what the fuck it pisses me off
>>106784273>lfstudioI would love to buy this. >Belgian studio>Great DAW. >No cuck license: buy once use forever ..Only for windows and mac though.. I'll have to do with an old version of audacity, reaper and waveform.
>>106781639At least that kind of headphones exists.
>>106781639Soul | soulless
>>106785683>Great DAWImagine being so delusional
>>106781639The new features and quality of life seem nice but that modern ui looks dreadful. Utterly soulless cookie cutter bullshitplease say that isn't the actual logo
>>106785683>Only for windows and mac thoughAFAIK it works pretty much perfectly under wine, though I haven't tried myself
>>106784523>lightning boltwinamp WINAMP
I fucking hate graphic designers so goddamn fucking much. Zero creativity, yet they think of themselves as special and better than everyone else.Pic rel is done by me and AI. Just that. No expensive education, no student debt, no thousands of hours wasted to learn how to make a basic single color flat shape in Photoshop. Just one guy and basic fucking computer literacy.
>>106787258This is gonna look great as a 16x16 or 32x32 icon, ie the size users are gonna see it at usually.
>>106785683>Only for windows and mac thoughJust use your brain and dual boot
Another one. I didn't waste 4 years of my life $200,000+ attending classes on how to make everything boring ass minimalist shapes btw, just want to let that really sink in.
>>106787315Get a 4K or 8K monitor ASAP if that's the case. You can't expect the rest of the world to cater to your outdated ideals.
>>106787328Ah yes, my personal choice is going to change what millions of users are gonna see when using this app. This is the way UI design should be done, cater to the 1%. Not to mention branding as a whole!And make sure that the logo you're proposing doesn't have any transparency, is hyper-detailed, has pointless gradients/bloom/vignettes, and most importantly, doesn't actually meaningfully change the original. Absolutely stellar work, please send your portfolio to Muse Group post-haste, they'll be overjoyed seeing that you single-handedly solved branding. Without even learning the first thing about it!
so how did Muse buy Audacity? how do you buy an open source app? Couldn't they fork it or something? or did they buy some foundation with the website?
>>106781639It looks like a chastity cage.
>>106787384>I'm a professional bootlicker of the old corporate structureCool, you do you, bro.
>>106787328Turn your icon into what users would see in their taskbar/dock
>>106787428Literally like the image in question but smaller.Here's another one, more minimalist without being a fucking flat color shape next to another flat color shape.
>>106784523This goes harder than it has any right to.
>>106781639Make it fucking stop.
Literally who cares, I just installed some random version and never updooted it. Why the fuck do you need to updoot your audio editor in the first place.Basically all software never needs to be updated except ones that connect to the internet. Or in the very rare case that you have experienced a bug or problem and the new version actually fixes that.
>>106787517If you like that, you might enjoy >>106787258>>106787554Software before 2022 and software after 2022 are entirely different things. We've got thinking machines that can boost creativity and productivity 100-fold or more now. Try it; you might be positively surprised.
>>106787620>We've got thinking machines that can boost creativity and productivity 100-fold or more nowlol ok. AI can boost productivity by about 2-3x and it's definitely not worth spending $50k on a big rack of GPUs to run this crap locally. Only corporations run it. For personal use, just buy the deepseek api or use their chat for free.>inb4 muh sensitive datathen pony up the 50k
>>106787258got a good chuckle out of meI think this bait would work better on twitter>>106787392proving that audacity is locked and that sneedacity is keyed
>>106787620> If you like that, you might enjoyNah, i think the ultra simple with slight color shading lightning bolt just does it for me for some reason.The AI render feels like it’s overcompensating for something.
>>106787764Neat, a corporate bootlicker.
>>106787850says the Altman asslicker
>>106781639the software itself looks really cool and I'm excited to try it out. Fuck Musescore as a company though.
>>106781639>flat design>sperm logo>dark UI by default
Here's my take
>>106781639I dont give a shit about the logo, but just the changes on the audio engine and non destructive editing are huge. Having to boot reaper to do any more serious editing was a pain in the ass.
Audacity dev's, here's your new logo you fucking asshats. you are going to Cracker Barrel yourselves
>>106784482>tenacityits what i still use once in a blue moon
>>106788189this design>>106788238with these colors
>>106788047when i tried the alpha, it asked me for dark vs light mode as the very first thing, sounds like the irish guy is a dark mode dude
Everyone here being upset the disgusting old ugly ass 5 year old playing in Paint logo is gone is proof why FOSS will always have absolutely garbage UI and UX design.
I think the overall changes in Audacity 4 are good, bar the new icon (which I could easily change), but I still can't figure why would I ever use Audacity over something like Reaper. Whatever I can do with Audacity I can also do with Reaper in a more customizable, faster, and flexible workflow.
>>106781916you have smalll penis
What's the deal with Muse? Never heard of them before. Why would they acquire FOSS?
>>106788672>acquire FOSS?Because normies use it. Why develop a product when you can push telemetry and sell the user data for a profit?
>>106782194dgaf about the logoIs he fucking the shit up or is it going to be okay?Musescore is actually breddy gud
>>106781639Ha, gay.
>>106781639That logo is fucking horrible but Audacity 4 looks good.
>>106788963What's new?Is performance better if you have lots of clips?
>>106787850Hate me for it but I’ll flat shit wouldn’t be half bad if they just had some tasteful color shading thrown in there.Flat shit soullessness comes far more from flat coloring than flat shaping.
>>106781639Why even update? This shit is the same since 1.0
>>106782913Except once they have the data the damage is done and all you can do is sue for damages that you'll never be able to collect.
>>106789118so I use the "label" feature, because they can be used to chop audio.You can auto label too based on silence.ctrl-b adds a label at the play head.I also use them to help me keep track of what's in a track when deleting stuff I don't need.I'm doing this for personal language learning.yt-dlp -xto extract audio(always updooted to the latest)also, in audacity X pauses with the playhead wherever it is. vs space that resets.
>>106782913>legal rightsIt's not good that we have copyright. It's not improving things. Patents are also a bad situation.The theory was that it would encourage innovation, but it doesn't, because they are held too long, and innovators aren't rewarded (too hard to ramp up a big business on a patent, since people who don't understand tech are investors, so there's no connecting good idea and money)
>>106781639somebody has to start forking these shits and stop letting these niggers chance iconic logos with DOGSHIT
>buys free software, makes it proprietary, and spies on usersthere is a special circle in hell for these people
>>106785172The vst support is nice :)
>>106786282lolbased autist
>>106781639Hohohohohoooooold up thereWas Audacity acquired by the same company who rune fucking Musescore of all things? Damn this project is done for lmao. Glad I ditched it for Adobe Audition years ago. If it's not FOSS, I might as well choose the program that actually works well.
>>106789475You don't need musehub to use musescore.
>>106787321What'd you use for this one?
>>106789531Idk what musehub is but musescore is a cancer website
>>106781939It was never spyware. It only had telemetry.
>>106789547AI.
>>106789660Yes you dingus, but WHICH AI
>>106782234It's been forked a thousand times, I wouldn't worry about it.
>>106784523This looks like it whips the llamas ass.
>>106781639Oh my god. That new logo has all of the soul sucked out. I hate these dumb fashion trends, "we need to make it simple and abstracted to hell to the point it becomes a totally meaningless hieroglyph because that's SOO COOOL! all of the other 'designers' are doing it so we have to as well!", this shit comes from the same fuckers who forced invisible scrollbars on everything >>106781639
>>106787258>Just one guy and basic fucking computer literacy.>And AIYou couldn't draw a stick figure without Ai
>>106787319>Just use your brain and dual bootI don't do dual boot, I have multiple computers. It's just principle I don't run windowsI've thought about buying a mac for daw only
>>106789799Who cares? Pick up a keyboard.>>106789698I don't share details about my workflow, sorry.
>>106785683>Belgian studioI love FL, but I can't see how this makes a difference
>>106789852>"AI is gonna democratize art">gatekeeps his shitty prompt so that other "artists" cannot learn from himA true craftsman. It takes years to learn how to prompt properly, those AI haters just don't get it. You just need to practice, see, and eventually you'll get results as amazing as him. In other news, I just plopped the Audacity logo with the prompt "reimagine this logo in 3d using a dark background" and it spat out this (look at that tasteful vignette! and bloom! and volumetric light! features every logo must have!)
>>106789953I'm belgian.. so chauvinism
>>106789565>musescore is a cancer websitemusescore is just a Sibelius clone, that recently added some Finale step editing, at least the basics.score writing. like what classical musicians stare at all day.
>>106787258>>106787321>aislopper whines about people who are actually capable of art and creativity
>>106787258looks like shit
>>106789955Needs more "pop"
It seems like one of the developers of Audacity is actually looking at this threadhttps://forum.audacityteam.org/t/audacity-4-logo-redesign-thread/149389/21
>>106791734and a variation
>>106788189this is proanons complaining about flat design, in logo design you need something that works in 1 colour, those are the rules to make printing/small icons look good, that is just how the medium works.
more like atrocity lol
>>106791978KEK
>The "I'll make the logo" meme wasn't a meme
The new logo was designed by an overpaid foid
>>106781639>AudacityUse TancityA fork that's still open sourcehttps://codeberg.org/tenacityteam/tenacity
>>106791747Well he should know then that he's a massive nigger.>hurr durr it needs to look perfectly clear on the taskbar/tab-barNo it fucking doesn't, it only needs to look distinct enough to not be mistaken for something else at a glance. And there's no better way to achieve the exact fucking opposite of that than to turn it into a single color abstract blob. It even already overlaps in whatever this >>106789475 is, let alone unrelated software with potentially similar icons.
>>106781639>>106787258Oh shit he saw the reply lelhttps://nitter.poast.org/Tantacrul/status/1974560435602088442
>My personality is hbomberguythis guy sucks, something awful was a mistake
>>106792478hi tantacrul! you're a thin-skinned, prune-faced faggot, and using your status as a d-list youtuber to do damage control and bully other retards online doesn't change the fact that your new logo looks like oversimplified garbage and that muse group has been nothing but a net negative on audacity since the 2021 acquisition. fuck off with this modernized audacity 4.0 bullshit and fork it off into a separate program with a new name, don't butcher the original version that people already liked just like every other modern software developer ever
>>106788590I don't have one at all
>>106785683>No cuck license>closed sourceIndeed it's not a cuck license, it's a buttfuck license. With you on the receiving end.
>>106792807having detail is dated. random disconnected flat shapes is the future fascist
>>106792478stay off my fucking board
>>106781639>Graphics design is my passion :)
>>106792478Hey Tantacrul! Love your work on MuseScore and the whole Audacity rewrite. Untangling all that legacy cnile code is a monumental task and the new UI is amazing. But guess what, people won't bother using it when their first impression of it is shaped by a red sperm logo.
>>106792478hi tantacrul! your graphic design ability is about as shitty and low effort as the ai artwork you're mocking. gtfo my board faggotps: audacity 2.4.2 is all you'll ever need
>>106792478Annoying antiwhite shitlib award
To me the biggest issue with it stems from the tapered swoosh. That's not a good abstraction because that's not how real headphones look and behave. It also doesn't make any sense when you consider the perspective established by the left headphone being perpendicular to the right one.
>>106793277no shit it's abstract
>>106793286Good abstractions are grounded in reality. This is an abstraction of what? Infinitely thin and bendy headphones? What does this abstraction simplify?
>>106793312It's not an abstraction, it's abstract. It's not representing reality.
>>106792478>.bskyWAFFLES
>>106793269seethe, that qt UI library is kino
>>1067934751000x better than whatever that irish dog puked up.
>>106794435>no man>no barrelIt is no better; that is the point.
>>106781639>on my phone>click link>video starts but its auto translated to my system language>cant turn it offwhat the actual fuck?
missed chance
>>106787197I can hear it>IT REALLY WHIPS THE LLAMA'S ASS
>>106793277yeah, they'll probably redesign the logo if they don't like it after a while, it was done by another team if i remember correctly
>>106791935Blatantly wrong.
>>106782569>>106788238>>106788189This. I don't get why they went with the eye raping pink-red, and the loss of the the waveform loses the rest of its identity. Rest of the app looks pretty good, though I'm amused how he explains how much the app should be simplified and have good defaults, then proceeds to have a handful of configurations or modes, and even worse annoying popups to determine preferred behavior.
ngl that is fresh after all the flat materialui shit everywhere. the waveform had to be there definitely
>>106782742all of these look pretty fucking badthe musescore one looks alright if not awfully generic
>>106792478who do you think made this thread
>>106795114I don't use Audacity and I don't give a single fuck about the logo change, but I will say, including the waveform like that makes it a lot more charming and aesthetic imo.
>>106781639The logo isn't even designed by that guy. when he talks about it he was even ambivalent about it. But regardless of the logo, all other changes are nice.
>>106795114crazy how much better this is
It's useless to argue over the logo because it was clearly made with Musehub in mind. They've already made up their mind, they're not showing it off early for feedback, they're showing it off early to try and get you used to it.
>>106788189>>106788379I could live with the one on the left if it has to be flatshit.
>>106796740of course they're not going to revert, the design philosophy is all part of a grander scheme to make everything as bland as possible.
>actively trying to make your program look like electronbiggest red flag ever
>>106789196A simple py script does that
>>106796782left is solid
>>106781639Tenacity exist, you morons
Can somebody explain what the fuck the push for globohomo minimalism flatshit is? I can’t imagine anybody actually think it looks better than the stuff it’s replacing
>>106798372some sort of mental illness
>>106798372The new ui pretty cool. I don't have to select loads of different tools that each do one specific thing anymore :)
>>106798727I've always hated the waveform because it's really crude svg. It would've been really easy to just refine it.
>>106798727They read all of those negative comments and still came to that conclusion. They have to be either retarded or autistic (wich are essentially the same).
>>106798372I think its like fashion, they keep changing the "in" thing so you have to pay someone or pay for something to be "in". Its why I had baggy jeans as a kid, skinny jeans as a grad and whatever the fuck (straight?) jeans as an adult. When we were kids icons were symbolic and targeted clarity at low resolutions (16x16, 32x32) and small color palettes. Then icons got JUICY because color palettes and resolution improved, then we adapted skeuomorphism because of Apple, and then we entered the FLAT era because of Duarte over at Google. All pointless changes that keep confusing people over and over again to keep graphics designers employed.
>>106785683Works fine for me in Wine (Bottles).
>>106787461>>106787328lmao this nigga retarded fr
>>106787412Why u mad cuz he schooled u bro lmao grow up
you're telling me you guys didn't stop updating after 2.4.2 before the buyout + telemetry scandal?not like codecs have changed (I think)
>>106781936wxWidgets has that classic windows feel on linux, qt is garbage.
>>106787328suicide
>>106796782@tantacool get this one
>>106781639The new logo being an "a" for Audacity is nice, but it's still an awful logo>No trace of anything related to the old logo>All red for no reason>no contrast or color clash>No waveWHY are they trying to force DAW bloat into what should be a simple audio editor? All they had to do was make it look nicer and improve the workflow, good they did that, but at the cost of bloat.
>>106789317No it isn't, use a real DAW
>>106781639>No shadows, gradient or shineALREADY OUTDATED1/10
>>106794811Why can't big McEvil corpo's make their Niggresses cute instead though? What compels them to make everything ugly an flat in what seems to be purely out of defiance against beauty itself?It's a drawing, it could have been anything.
>>106781639The logo looks like dogshit but if that video's to be taken in good faith then the software itself looks pretty promising.
>>106801348He most certainly didn't "school" me. He's just stuck in the past.
>>106781639why is he trying to suck his own D?
>>106781639https://www.ocenaudio.com/
>>106781639we dont NEED new versionsf-ck off
The old logo was ugly; it's fine when you are starting, but for a large project? Nahhh.
>>106803910>large projectf-ck off
>>106801219Same, but 64-bit plugins are fucky. Stick to the 32-bit ones and you're pretty much good with some exceptions.
>>106781639They clamp the umbilical cord early. They vaccinate.They circumcise.That icon:-Clamped-Vaccinated-CircumcisedIn other words, audacity has been circumclampinated.Well done.
>>106803910Clamped.
>>106781639the video is pretty good desuI like most things about the upcoming 4.0, but the logo is truly atrocious
>>106781639Crap logo, whatever, go to /gd/. How is the software going to be ruined? I'm still waiting on a de-cucked/bloated fork of MuseScore. The GUI they use is incredibly slow with everything taking a split-second to give visual feedback.
>>106805830Sorry, meant to add, and it looks like the Muse guys are adding their slow interface (with the show/hide eyes etc.) to Audacity.
>>106781639how do i learn to make good product overview videos like this?this and the copyparty vid from 2 months ago seem like good examples of one
>>106781639As somebody who is a boomer at heart (ie hates changes once I'm used to something)... the v4 actually looks pretty goodalso damn, audacity has more stuff in it than I realized, I guess the dude has a point about discoverability being kinda shit in the current onebut the logo... ugh
>>106801611Nostalgiafags should be hanged
Logo is fine you are all crybabies. /g/'s opinion is worthless. The default reaction to anything is crying and pissing
We don't need the headphones on it, it's a wave editing app, not a music listening app
>>106806001I don't want apple music ripoff, I want audacity
>>106805992>>106806001bah, i deride your woman-being abilities
>>106806011we don't need a redesign, because throwing away 25 years of deeply ingrained recognition is retarded
I think it's pretty funny how the video is a pretty high quality, well mastered and edited one and then there's the clips from the devs which look to be recorded on a 320x240px potato>muh logo is datedno, the UI / UX is (was?) dated. the logo is fine.I'd go further: the entire logo lineup looks like some shitcoin wallet, with random shapes next to each other. much like I'm positive about practically all the 4.0 visual changes to audacity, I dislike the logos with a passiongranted, it's a bit of a law of triviality: few people can meaningfully critique how audacity's UX should work like, but everybody has an opinion about logos, but... those are just bad, man. "two purple squares with a circle between them on a black background", what is this even? a satellite? I wouldn't guess it's supposed to be something musical without the name being Musehub. The audio.com is more like some bullshit postmodernist art or possibly CAD for children.Flat can make sense for UI, like in VS code or whatever. But those are straight up bad.t. not qualified to criticize audacity UI
>>106806143>no, the UI / UX is (was?) datedit's a tool, not a fashion itemflat is objectively inferior
>>106806177the tool's GUI is almost by definition how you interact with the tool, and good presentation is immensely valuable. Audacity was always fine for my simplistic uses so I don't really have strong feelings about the qt rewrite, but it was unarguably clunky for anything but the simplest uses.I'll take the dark mode and less excessive buttons that turned out to be unnecessary, thanks
>audacity unfucking their ux>gimp slightly unfucking their uxwish libreOffice wasn't such ass compared to excel
>>106806231freecad did it too
>>106806231>wish libreOffice wasn't such assone can only hope
>Cloud>Get effects>Share Audio>Publish>Mozilla logo "lovely"
>>106806231>>audacity unfucking their uxhow?
>>106798727What an absolute faggot. The old logo looks great, and they don't have any point.
just install reaper what's wrong with /g/tards
>>106806231just use google docs
>>106807235deprecated by audacity 4.0
good technology but the logo is bad so obviously thats all were ever gonna talk about
>>106782034>>106782234>>106782347firejail --noprofile --net=none audacityfeds BTFO
>>106808613You shouldn't have to do with this "free" software.
>>106808620simple wrapper in Nix
>>106805992Lack of foreskin causes the mentality seen in this post.. I am convinced of this. The permanently exposed and rubbing glans propels them mindlessly forward. Like lemmings.
>>106781639There was literally nothing wrong with the original, even the "flat" redesign was change for the sake of change
>>106809777The problem was when it was shown alongside the rest of the "suite", so there are definitely plans to enshittify Audacity down the line like they did to MuseScore.