Allegorical editionHow to request advice:>Budget>Intended use (media, source, environment)>Frequency response preference and music examples>Past gear and your thoughts on themFAQ:>Where do I buy IEMs?Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Case Studies, etc.):https://4ciemg.github.io/IEM-EQ-Guide/>/iemg/'s Blog/Wiki (Archive, Books & Papers, Music Editorial, etc.):https://4ciemg.github.io/IEMGazette/>Frequency Response Graph Toolsquig.link>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:• Tripowin Ruta10 (Mild V) - $18• Tanchjim Bunny DSP (Mild U) - $20• EPZ Q1 Pro / G10 (V-shape) - $35• KBEAR Rosefinch (very bassy) - $20>Bullet IEMs:• Tanchjim ONE DSP (5 Presets/5-Band PEQ) - $28• Etymotic ER2XR (Neutral) - $140>Flathead Earbuds:• Blue Vido (Warm) - $5• Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10>USB-C DACs:• JCally JM6 (Non Pro) / CX Pro - $8• JadeAudio JIEZI (10-Band PEQ) $18• Tanchjim Stargate II (8-Band PEQ) - $38• Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110>PMPs:• HiBy R1 - $85• Hifi Walker H2 / Surfans F20 (Rockbox) - $120• HiBy M300 - $200>AVOID USING:• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver posPrevious Thread: >>106777994
Remember to never forget to EQ.
>>106783468I am not poor.
>>106783368too bad for IEMs it's not really viable because of length modes actually can't you localize them via listening test peace have? it will show which frequency is wildly differ from loudness curves
>>106783474
>KBEAR RosefinchI thought most anons agreed that it had low quality bloomy bass? What's changed?
>>106783468Why use it if you don't need it? My Aful Explorers don't need EQ.
>>106783517Class 2 listeners exist.
>>106783517OP got hijacked by dumb faggots pay it no mind
>>106783523Your music hides its flaws.
>>106783517>low quality bloomy bassanons looking for a first time purchase that is very bassy will like it, there's not that many options for something that is actually really bassy>>106783523nothing needs eqbut eq can make everything better
>>106783523what your length modes just disappear when you put explorers in?
>>106783541Ok can you tell me step by step how to use EQ? I tried reading the guide but it took too long to get to the point (if it ever did?). Or you should update the guide to be shorter and more straight forward.
>>106783494Genelecs mentioned. iloudzo melty incoming.
What's the difference between the Truthear Zero Red and Blue 2? I see that they have the same price. This is the first time I will be buying IEMs
>>106783607Blue 2 has more subbass and treble but less midbass, will sound "cleaner" but more sibilant.
>>106783607red has decent tuning but it's huge as fuck and blue 2 has earrape harman tuning but shell is more comfortableI suggest just buying bunny DPS as your first IEM instead of any of this bullshit
>>106783642why are you showing a 711 graph and talking about treble and bass?
>>106783607like other anon says the comfort is ass, and that's a major factor besides sound. you can read around amazon reviews and such, it will be mentioned. many alternatives exist
>>106783681Because 5128 is a meme. Worse QC than KZ.
>>1067836955128 MEASURING RIGS HAVE WORSE QC THAN KZ, FOLKS. YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST
>>106783708I heard it first from Sean Olive actually.
>>106783689>>106783665I would really appreciate some recommendations. I just searched on youtube and found a bunch of chinese saying that those truthears were the best. I'm pretty clueless about this topic...
>>106783557Why do I live rent free in your head? The small genelecs sound like trash
>>106783864I guess its because crinacle shat on genelecs on the iloud vid
If youre the guy that flexed his 5000$ "3 driver" (its just 1 segmented driver kek) genelecs I must say that they also mog you in the big speakers department, for a fraction of the priceItalian precision > finnish autism
ok so when are the smart /iemg/ regulars coming back?
>>106783765look at op recs and shopping guide. the fact is you need to just choose one. whatever looks least gay and is available for you to purchase conveniently (amazon is recommended because you can easily return if you don't like it).anon said bunny, it's a good pick
Need me a dac for my pc, what do I get? I already have the apple dongle, but I want something a bit more
>>106784068>Need me a dac for my pc, what do I get?why?>but I want something a bit morelike what?
>>106784071Currently using a pair of fidelio x2, but I recently got a pair of AKG K701 for which the dongle isn't really cutting it
>>106784068>>106784107Fosi DS2
>>106784107>which the dongle isn't really cutting ithow so?
>>106784126Even at max volume they sound much quieter than the fidelio, as if something is dampening the sound, or I was listening to them with something between the cups and my ears that blocks them
>>106784068at least state a budget
>>106784185£100 I guess? I don't know how much a good one costs
>>106783717maybe you've heard it... but you didn't comprehend it
real pos are not perfectly minimum-phase.
>no proof
>>106784261un-peer-reviewed dribble isn't a matter having to comprehend. it has to mean something to be bothered to comprehend first. unfortunately for you, sean olive is a turd.
>>106783765If you want advice follow template from the op that way at least we'll know more of what you want. It's hard to just recommend stuff with 0 information
>>106784315It's ironic that pseudoscientific clown like yourself is trying to talk about peer-reviews. Don't even bother you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.
>>106784107>but I recently got a pair of AKG K701holy shit why would you buy this headpos... bruh
>>106784126google immediately says that apple dongle is not enough to drive them so I guess there's that... but I'd rather just drive them right into a trash bin instead lol
>>106784170>>106784379fosi ds2 should be enough
>>106784348>ironic>pseudoscientific clownprojecting much?
>>106784372Not the point>>106784384I'll give it a try, thanks anon
Yea it confirmed, Melody Wing is a Kinera subbrand, no wonder why the branding is similar. Wish Kinera good luck on the new brand.
iems are not fun to use, only fun to look at and collect.
Recent studies have raised concerns about wireless AirPods, showing that they emit up to 150 times more radiation than traditional wired headphones. While these devices are popular for convenience and mobility, prolonged exposure to electromagnetic radiation may pose health risks, particularly for daily or heavy users.Radiation from wireless earbuds comes from the Bluetooth signals constantly transmitting data between the device and your phone or other gadgets. Though the long-term effects are still under research, experts recommend taking precautionary measures, such as limiting listening time, using speaker mode, or opting for wired alternatives whenever possible.Awareness of radiation exposure is an important part of responsible technology use. Simple changes, like keeping devices away from your head when not in use, or alternating between wireless and wired headphones, can significantly reduce risk. Parents should also monitor children’s use, as developing bodies may be more sensitive to electromagnetic fields.While wireless AirPods offer convenience, understanding the potential risks ensures safer usage. Making small adjustments to how and when you use them helps protect your health without sacrificing modern technology benefits. Stay informed and listen smartly.
>>106784461nobody here even likes airpods or tws in general
>nooooo you're not allowed to eq by eari just bass boost until it clips nigga and nerf treble ranges until it stops being ear rapesimple as
>>106784261just like the jeet mind cannot comprehend the time domain
Are there ethnicity based targets?
>>106784571if it's chink, ear rape is guaranteed, only question is where it isif it's american, prepare for mud
Which chifi company has the best waifus. This will be my sole criteria for all future purchases.
>>106784716pretty simple the big 3: moondrop, tanchjim, seeaudio.others are pretenders, they are originators.
>>106784716>”umm, hey, guys, don’t forget that the point of the hobby is to enjoy music, ok?”>*plays some shit tier ultraprocessed pop song with autotune vocals*Why are audiophile (((influencers))) like this?
Let's fucking go
>>106784748i kneel tanchgod... fuck i'm jelly of the techs you get to enjoy
>>106784747Why yes I will be listening to hyperpop on Spotify. How did you know?
>>106784747worst part is when an audio review mentions vocaloid like cmon it's not even real fake music
apparently 2.4 ghz earbuds are a thing, like for use with a portable laptop for gaming? What's the latency like on these mf. Bluetooth is terrible and I'm kind of interested in plug and play.
>>106783607In simple terms: Zero RED has no treble and no bass meaning you will never enjoy your music, while Zero Blue 2 will absolutely destroy your earnus with its bass-boosted bright signature. Both will be uncomfortable to your ears because of the large nozzles. All in all not a good pick when you can buy a Chu 2 or Bnnuy for 1/4th of the price for 120% of the performance of the Zeroes and 2x the comfort. Also the Zero series sucks ass because Crinacle is literally trolling you at this point.
>>106783607what you want, for best comfort, is EA500LM and it mops the floor with reds
>>106784830find a model reviewed by rtings or soundguys. they're among the few places that will accurately report on metrics like latency. just guessing, it's still wholly inferior to wired so it's irrelevant. still compromised.
>>106784830and btw yes it's often marketed towards gaming, plenty of 2.4ghz headphones reviews should exist too, the latency stats shouldn't be too dissimilar from earphone form factor
>>106784830pretty sure they're no latency, just like a regular ass handset telephone
iloudzo, our thoughts?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PFKl6B04N4
>>106784551explain time domain to me if you are so white (lol) and smart (lmao)
>>106784965>lust provoking image >time wasting question
>99% of people fail this simple test
>>106784716get aria 2 red
>>106784824it's realer than you
>>106784965Isn't the anime girl in the wallpaper too old for Zeos' tastes?
All I had to do was drink a tall can of King Cobra and Natty Ice and the Q1 Pro finally sounds better than the Gate. Is beer and/or weed cheaper than EQ?
>>106785259I disconnected my salnotes zero with too much force and one of the IEMs fell off and I haven't found it after 2 days of searching. Celest Wyvern Qing here I come!
>>106785259EQ is free but alcohol improves sound quality too yeah
>>106784830SteelSeries Arctis GameBuds~50ms latency with the dongle
>>106785259weed improves everything, so..no eq required.
>>106785278I feel like Weed improves Techs but alcohol improves overall sound balance, I feel less treble sensitive right now.The Q1 pro does have an excellent fit, but the deep fit makes the volume vary quite a bit depending on what ear tips you are using.
>>106785299weed also amplifies reaction to senses, eq doubly needed
>>106784058>>106784864Well, at that price I guess I have nothing to lose with those Bunnies. I suppose it's a good idea to buy one of those DAC dongles. Any recs? I've looked at the JCALLY JM6, but I'm not sure if I'm getting into the territory of too cheap
>>106785307no
>>106785311https://a.aliexpress.com/_mLcD8jJ
>>106785302alcohol lowers your inhibitions by all of it....going to be hard to be critical while wasted
>>106785311bunny dsp doesn't need a donglefor IEMs you don't need nothing more than apple dongle
>>106785316im not gonna get chink ear raped while drugged nigga, unless that drug is alcohol or some other benzo
>>106785323Not exactly wasted, but my senses are slightly dulled. Having the "ideal" volume on the Q1 Pro being 21 vs 22 for almost every other IEM really bugs me I guess.I get much better sound plugging straight into the motherboard than using a dongle on my phone / work laptop. Laptops really seem to have issues with some IEMs.
>>106785278beer is free, delta8 is also free
>>106785318>>106785325Who should I listen to...?
>>106785348Listen to you're heart :)
>>106785348your heart(I am factually correct about apple dongle but buying something else won't kill you)
>>106785362apple dongle sounds like ass on my pr2s
>>106785365it just sounds like ass in general dude
>>106785368works on my dongle and filters
>>106785371put away your joint
>>106785341My old Pentium II laptop is interesting to try with IEMs.You get a lot of interference and can hear the hard drive noise over the IEMs.The built in speakers are absurdly loud and so is the default volume on Win2000.Still, with Winamp, RealPlayer or listening to CD, most music still sounds pretty good. Unreal music and such still sounds great. A lot of older desktop Cd drives had a built in headphone jack, no idea if the quality was better than the onboard sound or not.
>>106785383pr2 is so easy to make sound good
>>106785348Femtanyl
"I cain't breef." - Super fentanyl brother (goodbye monke)
>>106785311You don't need them per se with the Bnnuy or the Chu 2 but anything with a CX3110 + MAX97220 should give you a taste. But be aware those cheap off the shelf dongles can and will have QC issues owing to the fact they're made from chinktanium. I personally had 2 dongles die on me in one year. If you REALLY want a recommendation, buy the ones from NiceHCK.
>>106785384The gate win the ancient low quality high interference source test, but just by a hair. Sadly I don't have any hybrid IEMs anymore to compare.
>>106785452Unreal sounds great with accurate 3D sound and no static. Why does it sound so awful playing music from CD? Is WMP the problem here or my shitty ESS integrated audio?
>>106785389with my DS2, yes. in fact, I have them on right now after maining Hydros for about a week and they always surprise me, how good they are.
>>106785510sry I knew I probably misread ur post
>>106785348do you want sabre time-domain (aka upsampling) distortion, or apple time-domain distortion, or conexant time-domain distortion, akm time-domain distortion, burr-brown time-domain distortion, texas instruments time-domain distortion, analog devices time-domain distortion, etc pick your distortion, it's sigma-delta after all
>epziggers literally have to drink to make their pos listenablethe absolute state
>>106784716Averi is the best.
>>106784830Should be around 30ms because it's still bluetooth inside(lc3). At least using the mic with these doesn't nuke sound quality.
I got really drunk and told my longterm girlfriend I didn't love her after she had gifted me my latest pair of IEMs.
>>106784010>mog>full 10Hz worse bass extensionWhat did he mean by this.>calls multiple drivers 1 as if he doesn't know that being a point source is the end goal of all speakersThanks I guess?
>>106786079You worship a 2D fox mascot like it’s an effigy, as if bowing before a Saturday morning cartoon has ever elevated anyone’s existence. The fox doesn’t love you back. It doesn’t hate you either. It doesn’t feel. It’s not sentient. You are essentially a priest in a church where the god is an unplugged toaster. You feel the emptiness every time you bow to your effigy, and you mistake that void for holiness. But it isn’t god it’s the sound of your own life echoing back at you, empty as the fox’s eyes.
>>106784299Real pos without capacitors/inductors are minimum phase. Real pos with capacitors/inductors are not minimum phase. You can EQ minimum phase to be not minumum phase and vice versa. Even the cheapest drivers don't have any "ringing" because audible frequncies are trivial for any driver material, even paper. If they had ringing we would see it on the measurements. Chatgpt lost.
>>106786218Lmao imagine paying 3200$ extra for that finnish crap and its not even flatter than Precision™, enjoy your 10 extra hertz of bass I guess, you sure paid a good premium for it
Its ok tho dude, you fell for the beyerdynamic of speakers, its what happens when you dont do any research and buy something cause it sounds cool, iloud may sound stupid but its the brand that actually puts effort into no bullshit audio, you just got a nice home decoration for 5k that also happens to emit sound
>>106786729>>106786760Poverty is a hell of a drug.
>>106786774I accept your concessions.
Does genelec even have their own room correcting software?
>>106786823I guess not, but they do have a lot of colors!
>>106786823>>106786842Who is forcing you at the gun point to be so consistently wrong and poor. You need help man? Blink twice if you do.
>>106786859Its cool of genelec to sell you so much shit just to correct your room, iloud just need 1 mic and your pc
>>106786880Post in-room measurements so we can have a chuckle.
>>106786884You first tranny
>>106786885Being this poor must be exhausting.
>>106786842He paid 5000$ for THAT?!
>>106786904Enjoy it bro, you sucked a lot jewish dick for it
>>1067869055000$ + the room correcting gear which god knows how much cost him, with higher tier ilouds the mic is included
>>106785895For me it's fox drinks.
>>106786544Not the foxfag, but take it from me who idolizes Miku like the second coming of chirist that no amount of words or deluding yourself into escaping the matrix will ever take you away from the brutal grip of worship. Once you stare into the void, you'll never look back.
That will be 5000$ + tax + room treatment gear sir
why no headphone generalwhere do i go to talk about studio headphones
>>106787481Obsoleted by IEMs.
>>106787495"iem" not interested in sticking shit into my ears
>>106787504Enjoy becoming bald then.
>>106787481r/headphones or make your own general
>>106783899Do you seriously believe your version with only half the membrane area is somehow going to perform any better?Getting significant SPL at 50 Hz out of a tiny 3 inch woofer in a tiny enclosure is just physically not possible.
>>106787783You paid 6000$ for overpriced boutique gear and are (still) arguing with someone that plays his 300$ speakers at less than 50% volume, is this what buyers remorse looks like? Also you havent posted (1) Micro Monitor graph, idk if this is mutt comprehension or what, they tend to overpay for cool looking stuff.
>>106787851Post in-room response turdie.
>>106787887Yeah thats what I thought genelcuck
"oh yeah I'm really felling that 50Hz"
>your speakers dont have bass>no that graph doesnt count, post your own
>>106785348>>106784824Only listen to real musichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a83IXHrJt0
>>106787505so thats why iem market is mainly driven by indians, half are scared to ruin the hair and the other half cant fit regular headphones over the sikh turban.
>>106787851>75 dBYeah, now see what happens when you turn up the volume?
Poorest general on 4chan.
Btw if you have large monitors that are being occluded by a screen, as opposed to picrel, where the screen is behind the speakers, you basically are a fuck up and shouldve just gotten near fields
>>106788044Sharur bought LCD-5 and not even half a year later got receding hairline.
>>106788055nta but why do you want to play shit louder than 80 dB in the first place?
>>106788055Doesnt matter since I run them at <50% as I previously stated, if I wanted big speakers I'd get the Precision 6's, maybe you should sell your genelecs and get them too, just so you know what real speakers sound like.
>>106788070>man bunwould gas/10
>>106788092Music doesn't have a linear spectrum. With 80dB (A-weighted) listening the bass can easily reach 100+dB.
>>106788107if were really talking bass then ruskie mogs you with his subwoofer, you didnt hit anything particularly good with that roastie esque boutique home decor
>>106783642"More subbass". C'mon you can't even hear/feel the subbass on IEMs. You can't even hear it accurately on decent speakers usually, you need a dedicated woofer just for the subbass, like a three-way or a sub
>>106788166now now, genelcuck, dont be having a melty about iems in the iem thread
>>106788184I don't have genelec, I have Edifiers lol
>>106788234based
>>106784461Bro they radiate way more than 150x more because wired ones don't emit any radiation.Retarded article.
Got the Tangzu Waner SG. First impression is that they sound kinda dull/unexciting, it's like the attack of the instruments is blunted, at least they are not as sibilant/shouty as the zero 2 are stock. I definitely need to EQ themThe package is really beautiful though, you get a lot of stuff for like 14 bucks
>>106788279Waner1 is definitely more listenable and less ugly sounding than Zero2
Final x Suou Patra VR1000 for ASMR, join venture between Final Audio and the vtuber Suou Patra. This is basically a retuned E500 following the Cotsubu ASMR target. Price is 5980 yen or about 40$, pre order starting from now
>>106788349do I buy this or 5 KZ PR2s?
>>106787505ex-sennheiser user detected
>>106783708>complaining about KZ quality control>when they're upgrading your drivers for you>every time you buy themhow ungrateful. KZ even improved PR2 for EQheads
>>106788513>>106788613
>>106788627KZ removed the dampening so you can EQ it better
>>106788650>random FR improves EQ
>>106788667with EQ, the FR is whatever you make it
>>106788674If you have a rig. So every KZ become $80+ automatically.
>>106788688I EQ by ear
>>106788699This. ''Official'' EQ profiles always sound too shouty to me. One thing I do with every pair is lifting the area between 15k and 20k because most IEMs lack air, once you do that the sound becomes more enveloping, it's like you add some ''verticality'' to the soundstage and it sounds more natural
>>106788650this is what the filter was filtering out, KZ figured we were smart enough to do it in software and that we don't have to rely on their foam training wheels any longer
>among lowest distortion drivers in the industry>only IEM maker to improve their IEMs when they revise>proved BA timbre doesn't exist and that audiotards are hallucinating with their 1DD+1 fake BA>releases 1DD+8BA right after>charges $0, courtesy of Aliexpress and the Chinese government>Castor and EDC Pro>made PR2 even more EQ friendly by removing the dampening>upgrades your drivers for you every time you buy them>causes buttmad
>>106788940facts
>>106788940>among lowest distortion drivers in the industryDefinitely not their planars lmao. Or their DDs. Or their BAs.
Beaten by 15 year old $20 panasonics actually.
>>106789027cute thd chart
>>106789056do i print this out and use it as toilet paper or....
>>106789065>>106789078Being 156th out of 158 is not among the lowest, ratzo.
>>106789097>interprets another source with his own cherrypicked sourceimpressive
>>106789097Maybe he meant the lowest rated...
It appears that KZ's superiority has lead to some controversy.
>>106789112Real IEMs don't have this problem.
Read the EQ guide and you too can enjoy sub $8 IEMs. Too rich for poorfags, too thrifty for more poorfags. You can't lose.
Genelcuck I just wanted to say that you have to torture yourself, even if you hate iloud now theres other great speakers out there:This one goes from 28-20khz, has an included sub, and can save sonarworks presets directly into the monitor itself. A pair is still cheaper than yours.
>>106789190dont have to torture yourself*
>>106789190>head so empty that TWO people can live there rent-free
>>106789197your post was higher testosterone the first time
>>106789182As long as it's not KZ or headphones anything is possible.
>>106789203the fox fluff helps the genelcuck keep cozzy
received mt5 and chu2 thanks for reading my blog
>>106789290enjoy chifi slop
>>106789323thanks i'll enjoy my low distortion drivers, enjoy your record breaking thd westslop
Imagine seething about ZSN Pro ranking well in THD alongside other chifi manufacturers while flooding your ears with time domain distortion from a proprietary lowpower on-chip oversample algo. Couldn't be me. For me it's the EDC Pro.
>>106789423where is origin?
>>106783435>>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Case Studies, etc.):>https://4ciemg.github.io/IEM-EQ-Guide/imagine if people read this instead of relying on peqdb/squig and measurements from race-mismatched rigs on IEMs that turn out to be 2 revisions late
>>106789430Do I buy Origin, or 28.75 PR2s... hmmm
>>106789182Nobody has read the eq guide uwu
>>106783468what the fuck is eq?
eq guide acolytes: 16254jeets: 0poorfags: 0
>>106789182+5db bass, -5db 4k region, all you need.
i have a theory that men (you) with low testosterone have lower sensitivity to treble. this also applies to high test men when their testosterone levels are low (drunk, fasting, post workout caffeine crash, etc.)
>>106789676a truthnuke on the level of the iem physiognomy list
wow wearing IEMs is so awkward, especially the pressure thingthey do sound right however compared to low/mid-end headphones
>>106789676nah I have 1000ng/dl test and Im treble sensitive.
>>106789990I'm not particularly interested in listening to more music with them albeit - it's just too uncomfortable, even with aftermarket tips that're the right sizegoing back to my quad era-1. I'll order other inexpensive stuff like that poster's favorite EDC Pro for the lulzat least now I have something to wear when isolation is a requirement (which is almost never since I'm a shut-in, but still)
>>106790070>>106789990you'll get used to it, it'll get more comfortable until you get OCD about seal. try more tips, TRN and Waner includes hybrid tips, KZ PR2 includes foam tips>I'll order other inexpensive stuffvariety at a low price is what makes the IEM hobby, otherwise all my aliexpress coins would just expire
also you might want to buy a set of ear picks for cleaning, they also helped desensitize my ear canals
>>106790100>>106790107thanks
>>106789676driver quality retardation level of take
>be a cheapskate>buy ear picks instead of going to an ENT>wax is a bit too deep>perforate eardrum
>>106790236Should have used peroxide.
>>106789290You won't regret the Chu 2
>be retarded>can't operate an ear pick like billions of asians>be the first white person to injure himself with one
>>106790250that's good for clinically significant ear wax or moondrop owners, most people just have to shower and do some shallow ear picking to keep their IEMs clean. i can go around the sides with a toothpick or paper clip and it'd be enoughalso IEMs will push wax in deeper so it's good to clean
>>106786884post HRTFS so we can have a chuckle.
>>106788513pr2 and a prx.
>>106788613they improved the driver itself after the missing mesh debacle. it's the one I have.
>>106790471that's still enough for 4 PR2s and 1 PRX if last month's pricing comes around again
>>106790726get one of each and spend the rest on an amp or something.
>ear rape :\>loud ear rape :O
>>106790779rape is better the louder it is
Only $5 for low distortion
>>106790759hiby fc3 fits in this budget actually
>>106784526this
>>106784724you forgot truthear
Moondrop MIAD02 when?
>>106788613there's a difference between quality and QC
for me it's a -1db tilt and +6db sub bass
>>106791081my wishlist>double CS43198 without bump distortion, or ESS Sabre>of course a headphone jack + the second balanced one, like in the old MIAD>of course a memcard slot>easy to repair & replace the battery>easy to unlock the bootloader with no code required>custom AVB keys + bootloader relock>full device tree on some git website>container for google apps like in graphene os>not complying with google's recent requirement to have any app signed by google corp. to install it, moondrop's phone isn't goolag-certified anyway>a premium version with snapdragon 8, not necessarily elite (gen 3 is fine), for on-device AI magic>of course: even more techs
>>106791081now google what MIADO means
>>106790912go for it. but if you want to get the most our of your planars, look into a dongle like the hiby you mentioned, but with 4.4mm balanced output too.
>>106791535tempotec is like $6 more
use balanced cables for better techs
>>106792168only accurate HRTFS bring out techs. ...
>>106792194this actually
>>106792168>use balanced cables for better techscable being balanced or not doesn't matter. what matters is how cables handle things like phase, time domain, crosstalk etc
>>106792207I'm joking.
>>106792227>how cables handle things like phase, time domain, crosstalk etcnone of that matters. what matters is blasting more mV into your pos.
>>106792235where's the punchline
>>106792268up your ass
Remember to EQ your pos to 5128 diffuse field with room curve - and population-averaged tweaks (JM-1).Do not read EQ Guide - it's a waste of time. Just make use of the readily-available, perfected solution.
>>106790803It's going to distort your eardrums.
>>106792446>xhe is an averagehihi
>>106792446true, but you can read the eq guide to do thathttps://4ciemg.github.io/IEM-EQ-Guide/how-to-eq/target-modification/#jm-1
>>106792548unfortunately nobody has ever read the eq guide
>>106792565and rightfully soeverything (I repeat: everything) that's occured here after Chuzo left is completely stupid and pointless
>>106792602>t. chuzo
One of these will be my next IEM.
>>106792621>buying shanling mmcx memepos>in 2025
>>106792602you reek SEA chinkpost hand
>>106792639>mmcxwhy is this a meme?
>>106792446you can not EQ your POS to 5128 diffuse field with room curve - and population-averaged tweaks (JM-1).actually if you want that just buy daybreaks and don't be retarded.>Just make use of the readily-available, perfected solution.what you are proposing is the opposite of a perfected solution
>>106792713Evangelion 6.66 - you can (not) EQ your POS to 5128 diffuse field with room curve - and population-averaged tweaks (JM-1).Now in cinemas!
>>106792713>DaybreaksMega5est is better
>>106792754more expensivealso EST pos, avoid
>>106792779What's wrong with ESTs?
My IEMs sounds the same through the laptop headphone jack as the Fiio KA11 DAC I just got.Also, the DAC is too loud, I have to set it to 1% volume otherwise it's too loud.Fuck this gay hobby.
>>106792799limited lifespan
>>106792805>Fiio KA11yall retards keep buying dongles made to power hungry hps... that thing has 2.7v and the avg pos only needs 1mW to blast your eardrum
>>106792805rich people laptops have good dacs
neighbours can suck a dick if they dont like listening to him at 1 am
>>106792805Should've bought the Tempotec BHD Pro.
>>106792754literally not worth the price increase
>>106792805many such cases
>>106792805just download the app and set the volume bar lower
>>106792837im listening to this now this is garbage
>>106792805apple dongle is literally more than enough for most IEMs
>>106792890faggot
>>106792894cirrus IMD, avoid
>>106792935irrelevant
>>106792827>>106792831>>106792843>>106792880Now that I'm comparing them closely, the KA11 is cleaner, but the dongle itself runs pretty warm.>>106792894The reviews that I read said the Apple dongle is weaker in all ways to the KA11>>106792887I'm on a Windows laptop.
>>106792805>My IEMs sounds the same through the laptop headphone jack as the Fiio KA11 DAC I just got.Your mistake buying a single DD IEM, most of them don't need a high powered source to sound good. I would say most of the budget ones are designed to run off of a smartphone.
>>106792944Imagine when Windows flips out and raises the volume to 100%. It's going to blow out your ear drums.Don't say I didn't warn you.
>>106792944>The reviews that I read said the Apple dongle is weaker in all ways to the KA11yeah no shit dumbass that's why you won't need to set volume to 1% that's the point.you are driving IEMs not some bullshit.they will sound the same unless you are delulu
>>106792946Smartphones usually have a lot of power. The issue is you can only adjust like 15 volume steps between 0 and 100%, so the volume is always either too low or too high.I solved this by buying a Fiio JM21. So now I get 100 volume steps and I can adjust it with precision.
>>106792946I needed something with low impedance, my SuperMix 4 literally sounds broken on my laptop DAC.>>106792964...
Why does the Fiio KA11 run so hot?
>>106792812so basically a chu 2 in the hands of a moondrop ownernp: Yung Buttpiss - Doodoo Nigga Fart Sex
>>106793010>>106792977lil bro fell for the multi driver iem meme
>>106793020the same reason my RU7 runs hot, we're listening to pure fire
>>106793022you can wash your filters, but you can't wash your $100 driver
>>106792946>>106792970It's a SuperMix 4, the sound is literally fucked on any regular headphone jack.An Apple dongle might have been fine, I'll order one and compare them myself.
>>106793036>>106793020my hidisz s9 pro only runs hot with a phone for some reason, plugged to a pc its cold as fuck
>>106793025if it was a meme, xenns and thieaudio would only produce 1DD pos. you're a dolt.
I appreciate how my RU7 takes half my phone's battery life over 1 album to upsample everything to DSD256 unlike my other sigmadeltas that do it without any noticable drain, it shows that it really cares about the bits enough to put some thought into them
>>106793065oh okay i guess xenns and thieaudio are my gods now..
>>106792944>The reviews that I read said the Apple dongle is weaker in all ways to the KA1reviews are retarded too>I'm on a Windows laptop.iirc it'll save the hardware volume in the memory
>>106793116>iirc it'll save the hardware volume in the memoryRight, but I would like to go lower than 1%...
>>106793086the point is your piss poor take doesn't really invite conversation, it's just echo-chamber baity bullshit. noone's fault but yours. you know what you're saying and you know you're entirely full of shit.
>>106793068>bits0% of this matters if you use EQ.
>>106793129im laughing so hard now, you bought BA pos but its my fault?
>fix frequency domain>time domain gets fixed as wellit's that easy
bro bought a BApos and a fiio to pair it with, he clearly not lurking enough
>>106793155not true, study Heisenberg's uncertainty principle
>>106793142>they're all trash!it's your fault for being this willfully ignorant, boy.
>>106793155you're lucky I smoke too much to want to use grok and chatgpt every time somebody says something stupid here.
>>106793278>smokes>uses aithe jokes write themselves
>>106793267bro be real when did we tell you to buy a fiio? you know you just popped in this general after buying all this shit and regretting it, also im not the guy that said to avoid 1DDs
my linum bax finally came inthey feel almost too thin
>>106793010>I needed something with low impedance, my SuperMix 4 literally sounds broken on my laptop DAC.SM4s are known for being problematic to drive yeahbut literally any dongle can drive them (including obviously apple dongle)
>>106793278ask grok how analog equalizers work. and how you can make filters with phase
>>106793308>when did we tell you to buy a fiio?I've never touched a fiio product.>you know you just popped in this general after buying all this shit and regretting it.wrong.>also im not the guy that said to avoid 1DDs.never said you were.
>BudgetLess than 300>Intended use (media, source, environment)I use then all the time I want one with ANC for when I go for walks>Frequency response preference and music examplesDon't really care>Past gear and your thoughts on themI have a cx true wireless and I really like them. The charging case stopped working for some reason and it is out of stock or something. I want something like that. I feel like those earbuds were very resistent I dropped them many times, used in heavy rain, dropped in the toilet once and it still worked. I want something like that.
>>106793339no, you.
>>106793370I don't need to ask grok
>>106793346werent you complaining that your fiio pos was too loud at 1%? in any case you fell for the multi driver iem, especially the BAposy kind, which is funny
>>106793379not me, sir. sorry. in any case, you're seriously ignorant and coping.
please a less gay baker for the next bread
>>106793390at least tell me its not a bellsing armature lil bro...
>>106793429you're doubling down...why? cope harder.
>>106793434coping about what bro I dont want that shit
>>106793379lol you literally have NO reading comprehension
>>106793462my bad then, this exchange led me to believe this >>106792946 >>106793010
>>106793476you went through all that when you could've accomplished way more by simply saying, "you got fiiod". but no, you're here to bitch and argue with yourself.....and still lose.
i think you ARE the fiio guy but youre having a troony meltdown over me mocking ur BApos, but whatever
>>106793494he didnt just get fiio'd, he got BELLSING'd, idk whats worse
>>106793497>i thinkdo that, but less. a lot less.
>>106793502what's worse? whatever you own.
>>106793505>>106793513Bro you are melting so hard rn
Piss baby anime troon bought pos and cant handle the bantz kek
I have a fiio and it NEVER let me down
>>106793538you just thought I was someone else lol uh oh
>>106793552Supershit 4 moment
Why you so angry im the only one even replying to you tho, we mock fiio and bellsing here since almost a decade
>>106793616you're not even replying correctly, fucktard.
>>106793649>>106793649
>>106793137peqdb/squig user spottedThe Jeet mind cannot comprehend the time domain.
>>106789190I got EXCITE but then saw pricering, 1900 moneys just for 1 monitor..
>>106788044Jeets either have really cool hair or they're fucking balding with a combover.