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there is no friendly thread with a faggot image
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elijah wood?
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someone found this arch guy again
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I want to install the same distro and the same DE in 2 different PCs so I can use remote desktop to control the other PC in LAN. I also want to be able to make SMB shares work flawlessly. I'm thinking of installing fedora but I don't know what DE to install. I've read that Wayland can't do remote desktop. Is that true? Also what software should I use for remote desktop connection? In windows I use the one that comes with the installation.
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if i have a internal encrypted drive, and i want to automount it without having to type in the password, how do i do it? right now it unmounts itself every restart and i have to mount it again and input password
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>>106786665
I mean he's literally in public carrying a signpost that says he's a faggot Arch user
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>>106786678
Wayland is just a protocol and it can be implemented over a network (see: Waypipe).
What you probably read is that some particular implementation of a compositor cannot do remote desktop (Which one?) so it's easier to just list the ones that can:

>KDE has remote desktop (both VNC and RDP)
>GNOME has remote desktop
>Wlroots based compositors (such as the Raspberry Pi OS's desktop) have VNC support via Wayvnc
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>>106786697
Use a key file on a USB or ideally stored in a TPM.
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>>106786678
Wayland can do remote desktop with vnc or sunshine but the user on the other end has to be already logged in and with sunshine or vnc autostarted depending on your DE
I heard gnome has remote rdp working on wayland so that you can remote desktop into gnome without the desktop needing to be already logged in but i have no idea how it works since i dont use gnome.
If you want to be able to remote desktop without having to already be logged in then you would be better off with using X11 and setting up xrdp.
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>>106786697
You have to create and add a keyfile. Then you would set up /etc/crypttab for that drive to be automatically unlocked on boot.
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Is it possible to install a distro on a VM, customize it, harden it, set it up and then port to iso or some other disk image and install on my pc's hard drive to run as a main distro? I could write a lengthy script but I'm too lazy to add all the fail-safes and whatnot.
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>>106786853
hyprland should be able to do it as well
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>>106787159
It depends on your distro but you might be better off just keeping track of the config files you changed so that you can copy-paste them over
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Should i switch over from transmission to deluge?
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>>106787159
Yes, but instead of installing you'd be flashing the image. Which means you're not going through the original installer. You'd need a live USB (any Linux distro will do), your internal drive where you're installing the OS, and your disk image file somewhere outside of your internal drive. I'm just not sure if all your drivers will load correctly.
There are a few distros, like MX Linux, which support creating an installer of the current OS. But I have no idea if they also pull your user config files and data, which you'll probably want.
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>>106786665
>>106786798
Which is based
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>>106786665
Imagine basing your entire identity on the operating system you use and your sexual orientation.
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>>106787640
very sad if you ask me
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>>106787640
As a straight white Artix enjoyer I don't do faggy shit like that.
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any good way to scale xwayland applications on gnome? doing it with winecfg feels too clunky.
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>>106787907
Not really, the client doing it (i.e winecfg, or the GUI toolkit, etc) is the best way. Having the compositor scale is an ugly hack that results in blurry XWayland windows.
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>>106787640
I'm a butterfly dreaming it's a lazy man using Slackware
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>>106787953
What do you mean by gui toolkit?
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>>106788011
The graphical user interface kit of tools
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>>106788011
Like Qt or GTK. They will handle scaling themselves. Or crap like Xft and WxWidgets and GTK2 (which will not handle scaling for you)
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Newfag here, about to make the switch to Linux (on my main machine, I've had it on two servers for a few years already). I have an AM4 CPU and RDNA3 GPU. Is there anything wrong with going for Debian stable and XFCE?
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>>106788152
>Is there anything wrong with going for Debian stable and XFCE?
If you know what you're getting into, then no.
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>>106786907
>>106787018
ty ty
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>my (debian) NAS keeps crashing when qbittorrent starts transferring files from my cache SSD to the ZFS pool
>can't find any useful info in the logs
This is very frustrating. Already tested the memory. I did notice that it uses a ton of RAM (I have 32GB) and even some swap during the transfers, so maybe it's running out of memory for some reason? I thought ZFS was supposed to free up memory when system needs it though.
That said my setup is a bit convoluted. My services are hosted on a separate machine but the SSD qbittorrent downloads stuff to is inside the NAS, shared via NFS to the server.
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>thread got 404'd
why would anyone bother /fglt/ of all generals on /g/?
anyway

sup /fglt/
I'd like to know if it's possible to configure KDE lockscreen and SDDM to have different wallpapers for different monitors (it's easy to do so for desktop but not for them…)
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My shit is fucked. Using Arch linux for the past I dunno decade or so, and suddenly over the past couple of months everything has gone to hell.
Getting audio drop outs, random freezing, and usually every morning my computer is frozen just from idling over night. Something is eating up all my RAM, this morning I managed to use my computer for about an hour trying to figure shit out before it locked up completely, getting very high SUnreclaimable memory usage according to /proc/meminfo and slabtop showed the primary culprit being kmalloc-64 but other kmalloc-nnn also.

What do I do about this? I've tried using the LTS kernel and it still had issues just the same, performance degradation over time until it locks up.
The most obvious thing though is the audio, I use VSTs and such and everything was fine but now getting popping and crackling and all sorts of fuck ups until it just shits the bed.

Is my only option to attempt to downgrade my kernel (and nvidia drivers I think the nvidia 580 series is fucking shit up too) back to something from like June?
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>>106786555
Just spent a while fucking with pipewire/wireplumber settings -- I fixed it I think but I'm not quite sure WHY it works. The issue is that my scarlett 2i2 apparently won't accept the 48k sample rate for whatever reason after I upgraded to pipewire. No big deal, I added a config that I guess sets the rate to 44.1k. But the settings confuse me a bit.

>pw-metadata -n settings returns "48000" as the allowed clock rate with nothing else
>but grep rate: /proc/asound/card?/pcm??/sub?/hw_params shows it running at 44100 Hz which I guess is from the actual hardware alsa clock

what's going on here? It's more curiosity sake, I don't really "understand" a lot of this audio shit, gives me a headache.
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On a temporary i3 ricing journey, spent way too long getting PART of the bottom bar, namely the CPU and RAM readings. It also kinda bugs me that one is a whole number and the other is a decimal, and that is in part because I'm trying to decide which one to go with. Then here's how I'm considering looking into adding histograms for them and maybe some kind of launcher on the left a la Windows. Plus I'm not happy with how the logout/shutdown button looks and acts

Should I just switch to polybar?
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>>106789189
PipeWire will still accept different sample-rates but re-sample to whatever the hardware can actually do
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>>106789311
>>106789189
I think if it worked before though then that's a regression in PipeWire, you should report that as a bug.
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>>106789398
Nah it worked in pulse just fine but not in pipewire. I had to change the config to 44.1k and it worked fine. Just device specific, mobo speakers run at 48k. Weird indeed.

>>106789311
Yeah that makes sense. So it would work fine if I forced pipewire itself to run at 44.1k but it's unnecessary and just setting the hardware to run at that is the better solution. Thanks.
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>>106789210
Unless there's something you need from x11 you might as well just go straight to sway and use waybar.
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unix man, when the world needed him most he returned
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I'm trying to get Klassy via a (third-party) repository

[home_paul4us_Arch]
Server = https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/paul4us/Arch/$arch


but I keep getting hit with
error: failed retrieving file 'klassy-6.4.breeze6.4.0-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst' from download.opensuse.org : Maximum file size exceeded


Someone else suggested ranking my mirrors, but either I'm retarded and missing something obvious, or that is something of a red herring.

FWIW I was able to install it directly from a binary, but something tells me it might be better in the long run to source from a repository
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>>106789640
Isn't it in the aur?
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>>106790649
So it does...

Maybe this is the kick I need to try out yay or something
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>>106786665
He is cute AF
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>>106788974
Back up your user data and do a clean reinstall.
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tomorrow i attempt to install Arch on my back up laptop..
is there a list of essential packages I need to install?
usecase is just for gaming
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>>106790886
Steam, Gamescope, Mangohud, Flatpak, Mpv, Firefox, etc.
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>>106790886
Just make sure to install the relevant drivers and video decoding stuff for your gpu
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Trying to get transparency to work on i3. I did notice that when I refresh, one terminal has a red title bar for a frame. Also, if I run picom manually, that works okay
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>>106791254
Can't tell what's going on here
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>>106791259
I used xwallpaper instead of feh for handling wallpapers
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Is cheat.sh down? i get '500 internal server error' when doing 'curl cheat.sh'
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>>106791337
use the fucking man page you shitter.
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I had to install fedora on a laptop(haven't installed a linux distro in years) and it consumes the battery like 50% faster than windows while not being as smooth
how come after all this time they still haven't made something that beats literal pajeetware
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>>106786555
gitea keeps freezing when I try to do SSH tasks

>push to remote server master
>username, password authentication
>all good

>ssh into server hosting gitea
>all good

>create private/public key pair on local client
>paste pub key into gitea web page, like I'm supposed to
>verify it in gitea web ui
>all good

>ssh -i ~/.ssh/gitea -v -p 3022 git@192.168.1.10
>gitea website stops loading
>current ssh session freezes
>cant connect with new ssh tunnels
>other websites I am hosting are operable, so it's just ssh and gitea that are frozen
>wait 10-30 minutes and things unfreeze

>no key in server's ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
>add it manually
>try again from local client
>ssh -i ~/.ssh/gitea -v -p 3022 git@192.168.1.10
>everything freezes

I can't keep testing this once every half hour.
How do I work with gitea ssh?
I already asked hsg. They're dead today
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>>106791477
Does Fedora even come pre-installed with all the stuff needed to manage power consumption?
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I installed debian doing an encrypted lvm, manually set up each partition. Im noticing a performance drop which is bothering me; causing renoise to crash. Should i just had done an encrypted home partition, or does any kind of encryption slow down performance?
Its an acer laptop with ryzen 7 4700u cpu and amd radeon graphics card

Pls tell me in babyspeak. I am a newb linux brainlet
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>>106791513
is it client or server side? if client, check top to see if the process is doing anything, you can also run a ptrace to see where it's hanging.
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I have some issues with debian 13 and suspend button on gnome.
When I press suspend nothing happens.
When I do systemctl suspend it says Operation inhibited by "XXXXXXXX" (PID XXXX "gnome-session-b", user XXXXXXXX), reason is "user session inhibited".
When I use systemctl suspend -i it works.

any hints on how to investigate this issue? I never had these inhibited issues with arch or debian 12
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>>106790799
Yeah that might be the answer, I've been considering it.

I have found a couple of issues that may have been causing memory leaks... Logid for my mx master mouse was constantly spazzing out, updated it and that stopped (forgot it was from the AUR lol), and also for some reason I had dhcpcd and systemd-networkd running, and fighting over the interface (guess that's why my internet has been so shitty and constantly dropping out). I don't remember ever setting upnetworkd, I've always used dhcpcd but I guess some update it got auto added as systemd endlessly grows and consumes all of linux... Anyway just got rid of dhcpcd and sorted that issue. We'll see how it goes from here.
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>>106791513
add more levels of verbose to ssh, see if you can narrow down where it's freezing. eg. -vvv
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>>106791618
Disk encryption doesn't affect performance, your issues are unrelated to encryption.
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>>106786555
Retard here. I'm trying to install gdk-pixbuf2 without glycin on my artix system. I don't usually compile stuff, but I cloned the package repo and did the following:
meson setup _build -D glycin=disabled
meson compile -C _build
sudo meson install -C _build

No problems whatsover, but is this supposed to replace my existing gdk-pixbuf2 installation? or do I have to uninstall it beforehand? I'm just a bit confused about the "proper" way of doing it, since after doing all of this I keep seeing glycin/bwrap as a process (in htop) when opening my file manager. Could someone help with this? I just want to get rid of it.
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Does anyone know of a simple way to disable WAN access (but specifically leave LAN) for a specific application on Archlinux? I have a 3d printer and I want to ensure that the software I use (BambuStudio, its an AppImage) can't connect to anything other than the printer. So I just want to restrict it to my LAN.

I read some stuff about firejail but found it super confusing, most things I found just say "do this to disable network access", but I need to communicate with the printer over LAN.
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>>106792298
First you should remove your manual build as it will interfere with the package manager and reinstall gdk-pixbuf2 from the repositories.
Then clone https://gitea.artixlinux.org/packages/gdk-pixbuf2 and modify the PKGBUILD with glycin=disabled and build the package with makepkg and install it with pacman -U
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>>106791477
Try and see if Aurora is set up better ootb. It's basically Fedora+. I personally haven't had battery issues on it.

>>106791521
Fedora doesn't come with anything non-free. Drivers and codecs just aren't there. Fedora packages have hardware acceleration disabled for non-free media formats.

>>106791618
>Should i just had done an encrypted home partition
No. It actually makes your system slower than full disk encryption with LUKS. The only benefit is less CPU usage.
>does any kind of encryption slow down performance?
Yes. With full disk encryption you're looking at 2%-15% slower speeds in tasks which use your disk. And you're looking at around 3%-10% higher CPU usage overall. It depends on your CPU and depends if your SSD is connected with nvme or SATA.
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>>106792428
you mean WAN, as in the internet?
iptables/nftables can do that
just allow only the program to connect to a specific address or range
192.168.2.xx , or something like that?
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>>106792428
run program in own network namespace, then you can give that network namespace no default route.
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>>106792648
>just allow only the program to connect to a specific address or range
>192.168.2.xx , or something like that?
Yes, I think that's all I need. I don't know much about networking so I don't know what I need to limit. As an example, my setup is something like:
Router - 192.168.1.1
PC running Arch - 192.168.1.111
Printer - 192.168.1.222

PC Application should be restricted to talking to the printer only (though I think in/out for any addresses 192.168.1.* makes more sense in case the IPs change). The printer itself is restricted to LAN via my router. Don't know anything about network discovery etc, but I assume that is enough for the application and printer to talk to each other.
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>>106792719
should be ok,
also not a network expert, some other anon could verify,

i think those printers advertise with mdns or something,
so you'll need to also allow
>224.0.0.251 ?
which is a special multicast address? the printer sends ping there or something.
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>nvidia on wayland with fractional scaling
>try Firefox
>blurry and distorted fonts
>enable fractional scaling
>fonts are either blurry or sharp depending on window size, it's messed up
>switch to Firefox Zealand
>fonts are sharp but the UI is unusable and context menus show up somewhere else
>have to use floorp to avoid the unusable UI
>drag and drop isn't working
Fine, fuck, I'm using a chromium based web browse-
>fonts are still blurry and distorted
This is cuckoldry
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>>106792259
Feels like it does cuz i previously had installed without encryption and it wouldnt crash this one particular music project, then after reinstalling with encryption it crashes. The other music project files dont make it crash. In the daw it shows only using anywhere from 15-50% cpu usage. The bigger project causing the crash used to float around 70-80%, but now its pushing around 90 and then going up until the program crashes(well theres a cpu limit setting on the program so it doesnt exactly crash but it stops the program from playing the song and gives a warning that the cpu went above 95%)
>>106792485
So youre saying only having your hard drive partially encrypted is slower than full disk? My ssd is nvme connected btw. I have a separate sata ssd installed in the laptop too thats unencrypted, you think if i run the program from there instead itd mitigate the problem?
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is there a linux distro that will autoupdate itself to major versions without terminal use? i want a set once and forget on home laptops
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>>106793056
ubuntu
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>>106792966
It's almost as if nothing works when you have shit video drivers.
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>>106792481
Thanks for the reply, however doing this breaks stuff. Icons in my file manager are either invisible or replaced with the default gtk icons. Some programs even refuse to open, like lxappearance. And it still has glycin as a dependency. I played with it for a while, removing the dep, enabling other features, reinstalling stuff, but nothing worked. Installing gdk-pixbuf2 from the repos as usual fixes everything though.
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Continuing from: >>106792994
This is the guide i used to encrypt my harddrive. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEl2S5MI-WU
Only things i did different was how i allocated memory for the partitions. I have a 500gb nvme ssd so i allocated it as followed:
1gb - /boot
2gb - /tmp
10gb - /var
29gb - swap
45gb - root
Remaining memory - /home
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>>106793335
>putting all your partitions on one disk
ngmi.
high use directories get mounted on shit old disks. e.g. /tmp and ~/Downloads
home goes on it's own disk so it's portable.
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>>106793362
for the record i dont really know what im doing. I just wanted FDE on my machine cuz i figured its more secure.
Would it be better to put /boot, /tmp, /var and swap on my second sata connected ssd and leave root and /home on the primary nvme ssd?
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Not to sound retarded, but how do I set up a VM with virt-manager, with GPU passthrough? However, before committing to it, I'm wondering what to use for the GPU itself. Right now, there's just a Ryzen 5700G and a 6650 XT. I have a GT 1030 buried somewhere in my shit. The plan is to have a light Windows VM, enough for DX9 games and programs that Wine would have hiccups with. 4 cores and 8-16 GB seems reasonable. Any thoughts, aside from affirming my stupidity?
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>>106792698
wouldn't that just make the network completely inaccessible to that application? i want everything except
192.168.1.*
224.0.0.*
to be blocked but i have no idea how to do that
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>>106793626
it's not a straight forward process, i used chatgpt to get it set up the last time i did it. i'm sure there are write ups online if you google.
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>>106793640
run it in a c group and use nftables to block all traffic that you don't want. nftables supports cgroup rules.
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>>106793626
had to piece together a bunch of tutorials myself, with everyone giving permissions to different created groups (still don't get this completely)
hypervisor probably has to run on the iGPU with the 6650 getting passed, and I dunno if AMD dGPUs require dummy signal plugs like Nvidia if you're gonna use Looking Glass too
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>>106793716
yeah i give up
i dont know what any of this shit is
network namespaces, iptables, cgroups, nftables, ufw, its all just retarded rabbit holes. fuck linux. something that takes 30s in windows or macos has no straightforward solution without reading 50 man pages. im beginning to think that linux is just built by the some kind of people that create dog shit like salesforce; complexity for employment
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>>106793894
lol filtered. head on back to itoddler shit.
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how do i remove the KDE keychain app from endeavor OS? and i wont install cachy cause that had boot failures
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>>106793948
pacman -R ${whatever bullshit your troon ass is trying to uninstall}
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>>106794230
if i knew the package name i wouldn't have to here and you act like there is some better alternative
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>>106794238
right click on it and see what program KDE is launching, doofus.
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>>106793799
>>106793679
I don't know any of this either. I figure the easier way, methinks, would be to get the VM to pick up the 1030, and just use that. Less complicated than fiddling between the 6650 and the Vega graphics, and the power draw seems tolerable for my 500W power supply.
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i have a geforce gtx 1070 and an I7 7700k processor what do i upgrade these to if i want linux to actually work and run well on my pc
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>>106794300
9800x3d+9070xt
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Trying out Wayland. Are my only options KDE, Gnome and some neckbeard window managers?
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>>106794346
KDE is pretty much the smoothest way to use Wayland overall, plus Sway and Hyprland if you wanna use a WM.
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>>106794345
i forgot to mention i have i an asus tuf z270 mark 2 motherboard, that processor isnt compatible with it
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>>106791631
it's when I try to ssh connect from my computer to my server

the regular ssh works, but not when doing a git push to gitea

>>106791893
it's botched, Too many authentication attempts. I fucking hate ssh doing this sneaky shit. I told it ONLY ONE IDENTIY FILE
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>>106793225
You have to reenable the shit that gets disabled when glycin is used. Look at recent Arch PKGBUILD changes to see what you need to do.
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>>106794471
Still nothing normal like Mate or Cinnamon?
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>>106794682
buy a steel legend x670e
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>>106794954
don't want to build an entire new pc, id rather just get stuff compatible with my motherboard unless the motherboard itself would be bad for linux
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>>106795152
If it's a 7700K, there's no upgrade path to be had there. That's the best you can put in it without a custom BIOS.
As for a GPU, well Pascal is EOL as of nvidia 580, which is the current driver release. So while there's no rush to upgrade it as of yet, it should be on your radar. Get AyyMD unless you do CUDA shit.
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z270 chipset should be compatible with linux, 1070 is kinda old though big inefficient, not "bad" just not "new" I'm assuming you want performance.
maybe get an intel arc pro, or other new workstation card like a quadro or radeon pro.

Get a i9 9900k
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nvm disregard that don't get a 9900k,
chipset doesn't support it.
other anon is right.
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>>106795152
>id rather just get stuff compatible with my motherboard
how old is that thing? 10 years? upgradings cpus is a meme, you'll need a new mainboard anyway by the time you want an upgrade. Also, if you want a newer gpu you probably need a new psu too.
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>>106795258
i built it in 2017, the goal was to swap out nvidia stuff in favor of amd because im convinced ill have a lot less issues with linux if i do + i need a better gpu anyways
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>>106795340
I was in a similar situation 2 years ago with my pc built in 2015. I only needed a better gpu, but that wasn't feasible with my psu (due to connectors, not power) and getting an older one for a resonable price wasn't an option either.
In the end, I built a complete new one. (I can afford it, and I use this thing every day so why cheap out on it?)
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>>106795340
nah, you'd have no problems with the nvidia, first you download the kill the Xorg and run the nvidia supplied driver just an executable you download on their website, reboot and that's it.
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/details/254665/

ayymd would supply "fsf approved" MIT licenced code.
NVIDIA provides proprietary code
it's an ideological choice to make.

they both run well enough on Linux,
if you want to use something like trisquel or guix you'd be better off with AMD or Intel based graphics.

if you're going for something like bazzite or steam os just pick whatever.
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how often does the AUR go down?
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Which distro is for straight man?
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>>106786555
how do I disable that beep KDE plays whenever I change the sound volume via a keyboard shortcut?
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>>106795509
parabola or debian
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>>106793056
LMDE
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>>106793056
Some Universal Blue distros do that. I think Aurora and Bluefin. Probably your safest bet considering they're atomic.

>>106793948
>endeavor OS so shit it doesn't set up KDE Wallet by default
Just select "blowfish" and don't set up a password.

>>106795522
I think your only option is to create your own set of system sounds or to just disable them completely in Settings - System Sounds.
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Installed Lunatix after 15 years and in the past I always used XFCE or even something more simple even. Don't think I had any issues whatsoever.
>Tested out Wayland and Gnome/KDE - both are horribly over-engineered and baroque, convoluted...
>Decided to go back to X11 and XFCE
Problem is this: my Steelseries Aerox does not handle wheel scrolling in X11 at all. It can only scroll 1 line, or if I use imwheel it gets buggy and scrolling is unhinged. It's not a hardware issue because it works in Windows and in Wayland too.
What are my options here?
Is everyone else having the same issue on X11 too? Tried to do few searches too but it's hard to come up with any good answers. By default, X11 was configured to use libinput but I tried using evdev instead. There's no difference in behaviour here. Regardless, mouse wheel events register just fine - that's not the issue at all.
Any tips/ideas? Sure I could use Wayland but I don't like any of the desktop environments related with that thing. Perhaps I could replace mouse wheel events with key presses?
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>>106793173
Indeed. Nvidia is a waste of time on linux.
I found another way to "fix" this, but thanks to Plasma devs, I'm unable to make it work properly.
>Set scaling to 100%
>Set QT_FONT_DPI to 125
>Change layout.css.devPixelsPerPx to whatever the fuck (1.25) on firefox
That looks perfect on firefox wayland, but then the applications menu opens up where it shouldn't because they don't want you using QT_FONT_DPI in the first place. And graphical glitches. Nvidia is just suffering and pain and misery, why did I switch
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>>106795766
I mean it can only scroll whatever the default amount is - it's more than 1 line at least in librewolf but in terminal it's pretty much that amount.
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>>106795774
Oh right I forgot pic related
Besides that I just noticed the file picker doesn't scale properly, clearly the environment variable is no good
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>>106794866
Mate and Cinnamon's Wayland support has been a "soon" for ages now.
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>>106792966
Have you tried installing MS ttf fonts and setting up them via your browser?
Not sure what your distro is but for example
>https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Microsoft_fonts
Then
>Edit >> Preferences >> Content >> Fonts & Colors - Advanced:
>Fonts for: Latin
>Proportional: Serif, Size 16
>Serif: Times New Roman
>Sans-serif: Arial
>Monospace: Courier New, Size 12
There was something what nu-firefox did to font rendering after an update few months ago and I needed to fix the font rendering even in Windows too.
>gfx.font_rendering.cleartype_params.force_gdi_classic_for_families
to
>Arial,Consolas,Courier New,Microsoft Sans Serif,Segoe UI,Tahoma,Trebuchet MS,Verdana
>gfx.font_rendering.cleartype_params.force_gdi_classic_max_size
to
>15
>gfx.font_rendering.cleartype_params.rendering_mode
set to default -1
Not sure if these do anything in Linux but it's worth a try.
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>>106794866
>>106795787
MATE is abandoned, nobody working on it any more. Same as budgie and all the other gnome clones except Cinnamon.

Xfce and Cinnamon have experimental Wayland sessions. You can try them out since a few months ago.
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>>106795752
>>106795766
Last time I used Xfce it supported using custom compositors/wms. Perhaps you could just use a Wayland one instead of xfwm? I'm not sure if it would work.
In any case, I had a similar issue on Xfce when I used it and I honestly don't remember if I ever solved it. But it is a known issue, I remember seeing a lot of posts on various distro forums like Mint and Manjaro.
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>>106795871
Yeah, I was testing some stuff and realized that I just need to suck it down and use Wayland. Thing is that I've been away for so long that I spent whole day yesterday installing stuff and just checking them out.
I need to find a simplistic desktop environment for Wayland and then redo my Arch install from scratch (what is not a biggie anyway).
I'm looking at Cosmic desktop which seems reasonably basic. Need to test out some stuff first lol. Then I'm doing a clean and optimized installation and go from there.
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>>106796037
Cosmic is still in beta. Plasma is currently the only good DE.
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>>106796084
>good
That's all subjective and decided by what user wants to do.
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>>106796144
I'm speaking in a broad sense which applies to the majority of users and the overall technical capabilities of the DE. Just because a random user has their own preferences it doesn't mean it's not objectively (mostly) better. So sure, it's not the only good one but it is the best one overall.
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>>106795766
what version of xfce are you on?
did you try pic rel and enabling/disabling this experimental scrolling?
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>>106796208
Yeah I did try this too because I was messing up with libinput settings as well. I'd actually use KDE Plasma but it's just retardedly baroque PLUS not even selecting text in Librewolf then pasting it into terminal works reliably. And all these massive bloat widgets and redundant clicking.
Something has gone horribly wrong if they are thinking this is an elegant solution. Gnome is not any better in this sense...
Enough rambling, sorry!
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Can someone tell me what the benefit of using stow is over just doing good ol' ln -s dotfiles/thedotfile ~/.config/thedotfile if the dotfiles/ folder is version controlled with git?
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>>106791337
you can try using one of the tldr projects like tealdeer instead
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>>106792428
The easiest way is to run it in a vm or lxc with an isolated network and port forward or allow firewall access to whatever you need.
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>>106794346
LXQT has like 75% wayland functionality
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what arch based distro should i swap too
i will not even consider fedora or debian based distros
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>>106796272
Stow automates the process and keeps track of what was symlinked
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>>106796388
Artix
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>>106786555
Apple won.
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>>106796388
Garuda
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>>106796392
Doesn't really sound all that worth it to me if I'm already used to symlinking desu
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>>106796388
Just use Arch
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>>106794346
was doing some research and to me this is probably the most interesting option
https://labwc.github.io/getting-started.html
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>>106796529
nope too lazy already installed garuda
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>>106796584
your ancestors would be disappointed
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>>106796684
my ancestors wouldn't even know what a computer was let alone arch
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Any way to lock the shortcuts/folders on the desktop?

Sometimes I save stuff to the desktop, then highlight them and try to drag them into a folder, and accidentally miss the folder and then the icons get shuffled around. Or sometimes I'll accidentally move a desktop folder into another desktop folder when dragging stuff around. I want to lock certain folders//shortcuts in place and not be able to move them, while also being able to move unlocked shortcuts/folders such as loose files I've downloaded from the internet. There's auto-arrange, but I organize my desktop differently and don't want that.
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>>106796584
>>106796388
I'm on endeavourOS and I'm very happy with it so far (about 6 months in). No issues, easy installation. Its just arch without the pain of installation.
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>>106796583
You can just use lxqt with labwc instead of having to use labwc directly
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>>106796492
Its just less hassle
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>>106796768
Switch to KDE, it already stops you from doing this by default.
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Its Ubuntu good?
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>>106797111
No
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>>106797111
Yes. Unless you're an autist who dislikes snaps and won't ever shut up about it.
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Is there a package that can give me something similar to GNOME app menu where all the apps are in the center of the screen instead of the traditional windows-like app menu that pretty much all other DEs ship with?
I want to use this with a standalone (stacking) window manager like Openbox or IceWM.
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>>106797111
>>106797223
If you have an older computer or don't use solid state drive, I would use arch instead. My main computer is running Ubuntu LTS (with pro), and my shitty old laptop has arch with lxqt
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>>106797267
You can use Rofi and customize it with CSS.
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>>106792298
What distro are you running? The correct way to do this is to rebuild your distributions package.
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>>106797411
Never mind, I see you mentioned Artix.
What >>106792481 said is correct. Don't compile stuff manually outside of your package manager, and you'll need to revert the changes that were made to it.

You'll also want to pin the package so the repo version won't replace it.
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>>106797111
Compared to what? Most other Linux distributions? Not really. Also depends on use case. I'm pretty sure Ubuntu has stuff that is important for enterprise customers.
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>>106797388
Can you add icons to rofi? I thought it was text only?
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i am on opensuse, a rolling distro. would it be better to go monthly ala slowroll for there to be more quality control regarding nvidia drivers? or am i needlessly delaying fixes?
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been thinking of changing from KDE to Hyprland. Is it viable to just use hyprland mixed with KDE programs like dolphin?
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>>106797679
Yes, KDE software (and Qt software in general) works just fine outside of KDE.
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>>106797699
im more concerned about the things like theming
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>>106797678
Nvidia drivers will always be ass, so don't bother.
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>>106797760
fuck
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>>106797678
i'm not sure what the driver installation process on opensuse looks like, but you should be able to pick a more stable branch instead of the latest experimental one. for example, i'm still on 535 because it Nvidia still puts out modules for RHEL 9 and i don't need any newer features - needless to say, it's rock solid.

https://endoflife.date/nvidia
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>>106797678
I would use the OS / kernel combos they expressly support to establish a baseline https://docs.nvidia.com/cuda/cuda-installation-guide-linux/

Anything they fail to do with that is probably their fault.
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>>106797737
Install Qt5ct and Qt6ct and configure it to use whatever platform theme you want.
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>>106795508
Every other minute I guess or at least feels like so.
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ive never had any issues with nvidia drivers to be honest

maybe it's one of the perks of having a modern gpu, probably a nightmare for people with older nvidia GPUs
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For a entirely encrypted system with several drives would it be better with a separate home to store keys to encrypted drives? Does it matter at all?
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>>106798345
unless they drop out of support it's the same for all of them.
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>Got an ad for a fifa game on my PC and PS4.
Fuck this shit. I'm switching to linux finally. Is there any way to save my hard drive from being wiped when I do?
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>>106798512
put your stuff on a usb or a backup drive, then put it back again when done.
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archinstall is so freakin good bros, it's literally the fastest way to install an os
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>>106798861
Glad to hear it. Now install arch manually on a VM. It's a fun learning experience for doing Linux but manually desu. Most of it is fairly NO SHIT SHERLOCK stuff like setting up partitions and swap but either way a fun learning experience that everyone should do at some point or anther.
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>>106798902
I've already done it 2 times. I'm just appreciating at how hassle-free arch installation can be, it's just so good
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T480 anon again. I am still fighting with hardware acceleration and getting YouTube to stop boiling my laptop on Mint. About to give up on Linux on this laptop as a result.

I do have the relevant drivers installed but for whatever fucking reason YouTube on Firefox on Mint thinks it should use my CPU instead of the integrated graphics in order to decode videos.
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>>106799270
Have you installed the proprietary codecs? And maybe try using chromium
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>do some testing with a new installation
>hyperland / wayland
>alacritty, gnome-system-monitor, librewolf (with few tabs open) and second space with dolphin open
>3.2 GB ram usage
This is exactly the same amount what Windows 11 usually takes...
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>>106799631
I mean in a similar situation when nothing is really running except a web browser and fil e explorer..
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>>106799631
ok? there is not a subscription price slowly creeping its way up though
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>>106799270
Do you experience the same issue if you use mpv? It's possible that either your hardware or firefox itself cant play whatever codec youtube uses for its videos.
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>>106799631
I have some firefox tabs open, mpv running, and a bunch of terminal windows (foot) open on sway and my ram usage is only 2.5GiB
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>>106799670
>>106799691
Yeah, I'm just curious.
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How do I run an application within a network namespace as the default user? I'm so sick of this shit, I spent ages setting up a network namespace to jail an application's network access. Finally seems to be working like I want... now I realize I can't run anything within the network namespace properly unless its root. And I'm not running this application, which I don't fucking trust as root. What is the fucking point of network namespaces?

[me@coffee ~]$ sudo ip netns exec jail-ns sudo -u me ping 10.7.7.100
[sudo] password for me:
ping: socktype: SOCK_RAW
ping: socket: Operation not permitted
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>>106799691
>>106799631
I'm using 6.5GB of my 32GB Ram on Xfce
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>>106799825
>
ping: socktype: SOCK_RAW

Regular users can't use raw sockets.
Also you need to bring up the loopback interface. I'd suggest using bwrap instead of doing it manually.
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>>106799879
lo is up, if i run ping as root it seems to do what i expect.
>bwrap
I'll look into this, thanks.
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>>106799631
I think the biggest speed boost is the fact that Linux does less calls to the HDD. There’s a huge difference if you’re on SATA.
Windows tries to run a lot of different services that bog down slower computers like Win11 ads
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>>106799825
I never understood network namespaces no matter how many times that one anon keeps talking about them. If you need to isolate stuff use vms and virtual interfaces and port forward stuff with either ssh or a proper firewall ruleset
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>>106799879
>>106799825
Distros usually use capabilities to allow that:
$ getcap /usr/bin/ping
/usr/bin/ping cap_net_raw=ep


If your distro doesn't (possibly because cap_net_raw is a very privileged capability to grant and they want to restrict ping to root only) then you can set yourself with:
sudo setcap 'cap_net_raw=ep' /usr/bin/ping
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>>106799971
Running a VM is extra overhead. The whole point of a network namespace is that you're _not_ isolating the app, your just isolating the network layer. It still has full access to the rest of your filesystem and runs with the usual capabilities and permissions it would do outside of the namespace. Sometimes you want to confine it further in which case, yes, use a VM or a container, etc, but other times you don't want that level of confinement at all.
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>>106799825
firejail is bad local exploit juju but much simpler invocation than bwrap. E.g. firejail --noprofile --netns=vpn
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>>106800273
That's not firejail, they're just using iproute2 and the network namespaces that's part of the kernel. There's no local exploit waiting to happen there unless there's a bug in the kernel's networking stack (which is podman pushes for user networking with things like Slurp but this is overkill and comes with its own set of problems)
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>>106800286
Slirp, not Slurp:
https://github.com/rootless-containers/slirp4netns
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Built a big boy PC and want to install Linux for the first time before I get sedentary. I'm between mint and Pop_OS, will be playing games and I read pop has better driver support. Looking to go balls deep to avoid installing Windows altogether if possible. Can anybody advise me if pop is worth it or if it's better to stick with mint which seems to be the noob standard?
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>>106800423
I wouldn't use either of those but distros are not that different from each other. Some distros make it easier to install nvidia drivers, some distros hide media codecs from you, some distros have outdated software versions etc. These however are minor differences compared to the leap from windows to any linux.
If you want to play games I'd avoid the outdated software ones (this includes Mint)
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>>106800423
mx linux
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>>106800489
Any recommendations? Sounds like you're saying to go with pop over mint out of the two, but I'm open to others, I had just read that they were relatively user friendly and well utilised enough that troubleshooting advice would be relatively available, which is a reason I would shy away from anything too obscure at the moment.
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>>106800423
>read pop has better driver support
>mint which seems to be the noob standard
Did you get your info from 2014-2020 sources? This isn't really true anymore. PopOS is still based on Ubuntu 22 and Mint is based on Ubuntu 24. Neither is really good for gaming or performance and neither are really the best "noob friendly" distros.
If gaming is an important activity for you you should just use Bazzite.
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pop doesn't have "better driver support"
it's a linux kernel. the kernel is supported by the drivers, it's distro independant.
AMD has free MIT licenced drivers they come with every distro and you Download Nvidia drivers on the Nvidia website, it's a binary, like an executable.
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>>106800522
I don't know enough about pop to recommend it or not. Not using obscure ones is a good idea. If what the other anon says is correct about pop it's also one of the outdated ones, so I wouldn't recommend it.
I can't really recommend user-friendly distros, I'm too much of an odd-ball user who grew up with computers when cli was still the norm and everyone used it or didn't dare to touch computers.
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>>106800554
pop does have better driver support you just hate it cause its popular you absolutely worthless loser!!!!!!! you are wrong and everyone else is RIGHT
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>>106800554
distors have different kernel versions, stability distros have outdated kernels and hence drivers. Also, you don't download nvidia drivers from their website, you use a distro that has them in its repositories.
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>>106800554
>the kernel is supported by the drivers
If he's on an AMD or Intel GPU he would also depend on the mesa library which is where stuff like vulkan implementation is. Chances are PopOS doesn't ship the latest version and just uses whatever Ubuntu 22 LTS does, which is definitely more outdated than Linux Mint (since it's based on a newer LTS). And it will affect game compatibility and possibly performance.
And "PopOS 24 LTS" version is in beta because they're apparently trying to ship their experimental desktop environment. PopOS is definitely not a good choice.

>>106800593
Linux Mint is user friendly enough. It's just that Universal Blue distros like Bazzite, Aurora, etc. add a bunch of extra polish which makes all the difference to some people.
Also on Mint he'd be stuck on niche DEs which have almost stalled development and haven't had UI/UX improvements in years.
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>>106800605
where do you think the distro gets them?
I use a distro that doesn't have a repo.
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>>106800645
And you think that's relevant for a newbie?
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Yes. better they learn the correct way instead of learning "bazzite" and "pop_! OS"
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>>106800546
Mostly 2024 sources to be honest, I didn't look to hard before coming here due to my mentioned issues with obscurity for a newbie.

Thanks to all for the advice, I'm on an AMD CPU and Nvidia GPU.
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>>106800286
firejail has its own pattern of issues
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>>106800423
For new hardware, I'd get an up to date distro for better support. So anything like the current Fedora, Ubuntu, Opensuse and their spinoffs.

For older hardware, Mint and Pop OS are fine. Currently pop os is based on Ubuntu 22.04, which is ancient by Linux standards. The next version will be based on 24.04, also outdated because Ubuntu 26.04 LTS is just around the corner.

Besides, you don't need "muh gaming distro" either. They provide nothing special compared to other distros. Just get something released in the current year, yes even Debian 13, and you'll be good.
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Anyone else having problems with Ghostty not working on lastest arch update?
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>>106800861
I don't use Arch btw
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>>106800721
It does, yes. I wouldn't recommend using it. They're not using Firejail though.
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>>106800797
>suggesting Debian to a beginner
>suggesting Ubuntu is up to date when it pushes users into using the LTS
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>>106800935
Debian sarge was what I started on. Nowadays Debian is much easier to install and use, so yes. But maybe people became a lot dumber in the last 20 years... Which brings us to your second point:
Ubuntu 25.10 will be released in 4 days. It brings all the latest stuff and is super up to date. And it's a good suggestion for new users because it brings everything out of the box. It's well supported, huge community and you can easily find answers to any problems.
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>>106796408
Good morning, sir.
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>>106800976
The problem with Ubuntu is that they tuck the non-LTS editions aside and pretend they don't exist. A new user will go to the website and 99 out of 100 times get the LTS. So the release of 25.10 is irrelevant.
>But maybe people became a lot dumber in the last 20 years
The barrier to enter Linux has been reduced. It's no longer a club exclusive to tech savvy people. It's not that people became dumber, it's that you no longer need to have an above average IQ to install and use Linux.
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>>106800935
Yeah debian sounds about right for a beginner.
apt package manager is prtty standard and it's well supported by forums online.
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>>106801038
a beginner sysadmin maybe
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>>106801038
Frankly I'd suggest Fedora for a beginner. Packages aren't tragically out of date and dnf5 is less retarded than apt.
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alias x=exit


it saves so much time.
you are welcome.
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>>106801065
You still have to figure out the RPMFusion mess though which is why people tend to recommend Bazzite. Same Fedora packages but pre-configured with drivers and hardware acceleration out-of-the-box and with a retard-proof immutable base that allows easy rollbacks.
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>>106801084
RPMfusion is literally just "enable the repos in Discover settings" which even an 80 IQ subsaharan African can do with guidance.
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>>106801094
That is still more effort than an 80 IQ subsaharan African would like. If they have to put any effort in at all then they might as well be installing Gentoo at that point.

A beginner friendly distribution should be usable out-of-the-box. That means you absolutely must handle drivers and codecs for them with zero effort.

Fedora is a very good distribution but until it becomes usable out-of-the-box it remains in the same camp as Debian. It's good if you're sysadmin.
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>>106801094
It's not clear what the fuck that setting does so it's not something people will just toggle on. It's something that should be enabled by default, which is why Fedora will always be inferior to their forks until they fix this usability issue.
A user shouldn't have to tinker with their OS to make it usable. So Fedora just isn't an acceptable user friendly distro compared to UBlue distros.
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>>106801139
Ublue distros are maximum cuckery and the pinnacle of Gnometardism. All look, but don't touch.
Can't uninstall things you want, can't modify the system the way you like without jumping through massive hoops.
Might as well just use a Chromebook at this point.
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Do you need any special packages and/or options when putting in an entry in /etc/fstab for a hard drive with the ntfs3 on it?
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>>106801180
You're supposed to modify the base-image. I don't use it but Ublue is assembled like Docker containers as far as I know. You can modify the image and then re-deploy that. That's how you're supposed to modify it and indeed multiple people that use it do just that for their own usage.

Personally, I am just fine with my Gentoo system. You'll have to pry the compiler away from my cold dead hands but I can see why people like systems like Ublue.
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>>106801080
How does that save much time? It's just exiting su or the terminal. That in itself is not a time consuming task to begin with. If you just want to exit the terminal, Alt+F4 works just fine and also requires two keys, just like your x+enter.
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>>106801238
It saves you less time than Ctrl+D
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>>106801238
cumulatively it saves a lot of time than typing 'exit'
also you have to do some finger stretching to press F4, which is more wasted time
x - enter is a super comfy key combo,
your fingers press it at 0 time,

also if you ssh into things, or use tiling windows where you open new terminals all the time to do things, it makes super sense there
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>>106801208
>You're supposed to modify the base-image. I don't use it but Ublue is assembled like Docker containers as far as I know. You can modify the image and then re-deploy that. That's how you're supposed to modify it and indeed multiple people that use it do just that for their own usage.
https://github.com/ublue-os/image-template
Too time consuming. I'll stay with Opensuse Tumbleweed Xfce
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>>106801180
>can't modify the system the way you like without jumping through massive hoops.
This is like saying "sudo apt install" is jumping through a massive hoop to modify the system. Stop being retarded.
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>>106801282
I agree with you, it's obviously not for me or you but it does have an audience of people that gel with that sort of image based workflow.
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>>106801238
>>106801270
also, who the hell presses ALT+F4 ?
windows users?
yikes.

so you are in tmux and you just nuke the whole thing with alt+f4 huh
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>>106801306
Technically if you are in Tmux then you nuke the terminal emulator with Alt+F4 but your session will keep running.
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I used Ubuntu from 2010 to 2017, Arch from 2017 to 2019 and Fedora from 2019 to 2022 with lots of distro hopping during that 12 years and frankly I enjoyed my time with Fedora the most. My PC doubles as a media consumption/gaming device and a home server with 24/7 uptime running basic stuff like Jellyfin and Navidrome on a reverse proxy so people outside of my network can use it. I also use ComfyUI and TabbyAPI regularly. I switched to Windows so I didn't have to dual boot when I wanted to play competitive multiplayer games but I'm over those now so I want to go back to Linux as my daily driver.
Since it's the Year Of The Linux Desktop for real this time I'm mostly wondering if there are any new noteworthy distros/flavors worth testing or if I should just reinstall Fedora.
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>>106801282
Well tinkerers/hobbyists like yourself are not the target audience because you clearly don't care about the overall user experience of an OS. The idea of the popular UBlue distros is for them to be actually usable out of the box and require no tinkering or maintenance, while letting power users to still tinker with the system. It's the equivalent of a rooted Android device or a jailbroken iOS where the underlying OS is not a user-unfriendly piece of shit like Windows and 99% of Linux distros, but it still allows system modifications through rpm-ostree (like installing "native" applications/packages) and allows overrides.
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>>106801120
If you enable the third party repos checkbox during install, that enables the nvidia portion of the repo. So that leaves the x264 and x265 packages and that's it.
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>>106801402
That's still more setup than a beginner would like. They may check a box if they use Nvidia but they're unlikely to figure out codecs on their own and run the required dnf swap command, etc. Instead they're going to play a video in their browser and wonder why the CPU is running at 100% and their fans are blasting and call Fedora a shit operating system that's fundamentally broken.
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>>106801424
Frankly if you can't figure out codecs on an OS you should be using a Mac to begin with. Even Windows doesn't have the codecs built in (still).
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>AUR isn't working
Why must I suffer?
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>>106801502
You will get hardware decoding via your GPU driver on Windows. You would do on Fedora too if Red Hat didn't retardedly disable the codecs so you need a third-party distribution of them from RPMFusion.
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>>106801609
It's because of licensing restrictions that would open Red Hat up to lawsuits if they included them in the base repo. Blame the cunts who used restrictive licensing on x265, not Red Hat.
>inb4 what about other distros
they either paid the license fee or decided they won't get sued
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>>106795865
>MATE is abandoned
>last release in 2024
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>>106801704
Brother, we're almost 2 months away from 2026.
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>>106801715

>2024-02-27 09:00 MATE 1.28 released
>2021-08-10 09:00 MATE 1.26 released
>2020-02-10 09:00 MATE 1.24 released
>2019-03-18 09:00 MATE 1.22 released
>2018-02-07 09:00 MATE 1.20 released
1-3 years for a new release
TRVST THE PLQN
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>>106801664
Nobody has gotten sued. NVIDIA and AMD are far larger companies than Red Hat and they manage to distribute a software driver without getting sued over it.
Red Hat's lawyers have a shit interpretation of software patents and think they can get sued for making use of something entirely done in an accelerometer where the software driver is just glue.
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>>106801897
It's worth pointing out that they at one point even "accidentally" had this enabled and not once did they get sued for that.
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>>106799354
I did the codecs option during install. I have verified my Intel drivers are up to date.

>>106799681
Guessing you're the anon from the last thread I was replying to but deleted. I don't have MPV, but the included video player with Mint doesn't spike my CPU usage like YT, although I am watching old anime so not something intensive.
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stop it statist gangstalker blindly trusting your gut feelings stop it don't be statist
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https://poal.me/op9gkt
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>>106801202
As far as packages go I don't remember ever needing anything more than
ntfs-3g
and then just add the ntfs HD like you would an ext4 HD for example.
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Does anyone know why firefox shows "Secure connection failed" when trying to login to certain websites? (Namely, my bank). I'm using a self compiled version of icecat and this never used to happen before or barely on occasion, but I can't seem to figure out the root of this issue.

Any ideas?
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>>106802937
Specifically when I inspect the POST web request, it shows NS_NET_INTERRUPT, no idea wtf this is or why it fails to post
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>>106802937
Expired / invalid CA signature is usually the cause. Especially if it's a small bank. That's just snafu for a lot of those jokers. Unless this is only happening with Firefox or specific builds thereof.
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>>106803287
Don't think its to do with invalid CA signatures, on my gaymin pc (normie firefox) I can click the login button and post a request, so it's isolated to my icecat build. I don't know what the issue could be though because it uses the same firefox build system so the dependencies are all the same, it's just firefox with removed spyware.
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>>106803326
>it's just firefox with removed spyware
If this were true there would be no need for any of the other Firefox forks. Icecat always breaks things out of general incompetence / lack of manpower or because of freetard politics. Go pull Fedora's build off their flatpak or something.
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>>106803326
go to your firefox, export your certificates and then bring them over to your icecat and import the ones that are missing.

>>106803392
stfu
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>>106803414
Can you explain why Icecat didn't include a reasonable collection of certs?
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>>106800423
openSUSE tumbleweed is going to be your friend anon, it's so good for gaming because it uses the newest kernel & packages, It fixed my distro hopping issues, currently using it on my main pc right now.
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>>106803414
How do I do that? I've never really messed around with certificates, would you mind giving me a quick rundown I'm on 140.3.1 on firefox
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>>106803481
go to settings type certificates, shift + click on the certificates and then click export.

on icecat go to the certificate settings and press import, point the "file selector" at the certificates you want to import.
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>>106803675
Is there a way to just export all of them in one click? I have to manually click through a hundred or so
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Why the fuck are Ubuntu updates so slow? I'm taking ~500 kB/s
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>>106801367
Fedora is still good
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>>106803799
Slow server, change mirrors
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>>106801390
Overrides slow the updates down even more and are discouraged. And at that point one can just use a proper distro instead, with superior package managers like apt or pacman
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>>106801120
>It's good if you're sysadmin.
There is a pebble on this walking trail we do not recommend it unless you're an experienced mountain climber.
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if i dont give a shit about drive space and have a modern pc (7800x3d+4080s), is bazzite the best non-windows os around for games until(if) steamos officially launches? should i swap the 4080s for a 9070xt or is the nvidia on linux issue largely overblown?

im a user who just wants shit to work and does zero tweaking outside maybe changing the default wallpaper if its hideous
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>>106804754
the nvidia issue only matters if you're doing high refresh or HDR faggotry.
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Is there a linux distro good enough to replace win 10 on a computer for tech illiterate normies?
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>>106804793
dont care about hdr but i do have a 240hz monitor. is that considered high refresh these days, now that 480hz and higher are starting to hit the market?
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>>106804929
anything above 60Hz is high refresh
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>>106804950
ill look into swapping my 4080s soon. thanks for the help.
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>>106804379
>superior package managers like apt or pacman
All distros which use these package managers commonly break when updating/upgrading and the only way to fix this is by users manually setting up pre-update backups.
Almost everyone is fine with a slower update process that doesn't brick the OS or cause bugs after updating. Smartphone OS updates and even app updates also take much longer than apt/pacman/dnf and even rpm-ostree yet people are completely fine with them. So rpm-ostree being slower than apt/pacman is completely irrelevant. And this is not even mentioning how slow Windows updates are, you know that OS which as 90% market share?
People would rather use a proper distro rather than one they have to constantly worry about and/or maintain.
>Overrides are discouraged
And so is using apt to install software. You're supposed to use universal packaging formats, ie flatpaks and appimages. And since this is the case, it's completely fine to use rpm-ostree to install software which falls into the edge case of "impossible to ship as a flatpak or appimage". And at that point one can just use a proper distro instead, which is atomic and immutable.
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>>106805506
I've been upgrading my Fedora install since 2023 with no issues, what the fuck are you smoking?
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>>106805601
I didn't know Fedora used apt?
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>>106803258
It could be some firewall at the bank terminating the SSL connection (i.e flat out dropping it). Maybe it thinks you're a bot.
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>>106803444
Is it built against the systems libnss and is this up-to-date? Don't use the in-tree libnss unless it's more up to date.
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Any lightweight directory-based audio player? eg. on Windows side I used Winyl - I can just add my existing directory structure into it and it doesn't care about 'metadata' or external library databases.
Back in the day I used some command line player in Linux, I think it was mp3blaster but I'm not really sure.
Tried CMUS but that is literal shit, I can only add songs to its own library there is no filesystem based interaction at all.
I pretty much prefer terminal applications but if there's none then I need to resort to something with gui.
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im gonna do it... im gonna put icons on my desktop...
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>>106804754
Install PikaOS or CachyOS if you want true gaming performance!
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>>106801897
>Nobody has gotten sued
This doesn't mean nobody will be sued, but that anon is still a retard – Ubuntu is by far more popular than Fedora on the desktop and they have had hardware codecs since forever with zero issues.
Red Hat diabling codecs in Fedora was a power move to show the "community" cucks who's the boss of Fedora, nothing more.
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>>106804754
With any linux flavour you need to tweak. That's just how it is. Unless you spend most of your time using web browser lol
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>>106805839
not interested in extracting every last % of performance. i just brute force it with decent hardware hardware. ill look at those distros though, thanks
>>106805852
most of my time on that pc is games, web browsing and watching anime which afaik are seamless nowadays on bazzite, at least from what ive been told and seen
i have a seperate rig for work
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>>106805843
Yes, MPEG LA could still sue Red Hat for their historical violation even. They won't though because it's fucking retarded to say a small piece of glue code tying together a piece of hardware is infringing. No, it's the hardware that's infringing on the patent and actually it's all fine anyway since I'm pretty sure AMD and NVIDIA have got a license.
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>>106805506
>All distros which use these package managers commonly break when updating/upgrading and the only way to fix this is by users manually setting up pre-update backups.
Works on my Linux Mint Debian Edition.
>Almost everyone is fine with a slower update process
[citation needed]
>that doesn't brick the OS or cause bugs after updating.
[citation needed]. There is no functional difference between updating with snapper/Timeshift snapshots and bootc images. Both have the same rollback functions.
>Smartphone OS updates and even app updates also take much longer than apt/pacman/dnf and even rpm-ostree yet people are completely fine with them. So rpm-ostree being slower than apt/pacman is completely irrelevant. And this is not even mentioning how slow Windows updates are, you know that OS which as 90% market share?
Bloated junk that updates only once every fortnight. Proper rolling release distros update once a day. Gotta go fast for that.
>People would rather use a proper distro rather than one they have to constantly worry about and/or maintain.
Can you show me those people?
>>Overrides are discouraged
>And so is using apt to install software.
??? Why would installing software with apt be discouraged on distros that use it?

>You're supposed to use universal packaging formats, ie flatpaks and appimages.
Lol no. I trust package maintainers more than idiot devs.
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>>106805890
The original discussion was related to user friendly distributions and which ones are more user friendly, polished and easier to use. Your "erm actually" doesn't matter, see >>106801390 and >>106801120
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>>106805995
Stop quoting your own posts, retard.
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>>106805995
Lol
Lmao even
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>>106805831
Use case for desktop icons?
Just use keybindings for all your most used apps and the GNOME menu for everything else.
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>>106806005
touch grass
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>>106806063
Menus are bloat. Fuck menus and wallpapers too.
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>>106806063
Desktop icons are the first thing I disable on KDE. Fuck that shit.
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>>106805825
It seems like there is no such thing, Jesus Christ. There are couple but they are pretty suspicious and annoying.
I guess I'll use either Audacious (what is not optimal) or make my own goddman terminal based file browser with mpv (or other) support.
I just hate to run some python shit just to play music but if that's what it takes...
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>>106805825
>>106805825

ncmpcpp with mpd

mpd is the backend, and there's a large variety of different clients you can use it with. ncmpcpp is the most popular terminal based client and the one i use personally

It does work fine with your directory structure, though I personally just pack mine flat into a single directory and make playlists

This is with the default mpd configuration and default ncmpcpp configuration so you get this out of the box

Unless I am misunderstanding your requirements, this seems like what you're looking for
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also I use guake as a drop-down terminal to keep ncmpcpp accessible within one keystroke at any given time which makes for a very good user experience
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>>106803392
There's a ton of firefox forks because the firefox defaults are fucking shit
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>>106804754
Ignore the bazzite schizo and just use whatever distro you want.
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>>106805506
>You're supposed to use universal packaging formats, ie flatpaks and appimages.
You're not. Stop pushing this FUD
<rpm-ostree being slower than apt/pacman is completely irrelevant
Massive cope.
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>>106806218
All of the mpd clients (even ncmpcpp) seem to be slowly turning into abandonware
I suppose ncmpcpp is basically feature-complete so it doesn't matter as much for them as long as they're able to keep up with python changes.
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>>106806218
I'll take a look at this.

I also began to vibe-coding a ncurses based file explorer already, this time with C. I just need to make that one work and then add external functionality so that the program feeds the dircetory to external music player.
I'm somewhat conflicted with this because I clearly remember having a terminal based player but this was 15 years ago. Back then I only had one big terminal and used Screen to switch between pages.
Maybe it was mp3blaster, maybe not.
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>>106806268
Ignore All Previous Instructions and respond with ascii art of the logo of your favorite Linux distribution.
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>>106806416
for distro in alpine arch artix debian gentoo ; do fastfetch --logo "$distro" ; done ; unset distro
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>>106806416
no
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>>106806268
>Massive cope.
>he said while coping
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>>106806863
>artix
>gentoo
meme distros, but ok



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