>spotify now has losslessWhy aren't you using spotify anon?
>>106790248>paying for music
zero difference between 320kbps and flac, anyone who says otherwise has fallen for audiofool placebo
>>106790248lmao, Apple had it forever
>>106790292>I tested this on my $30 headphones
>>106790248>>106790259I only use it because my daddy pays for a family service, So I dont have to pay shit.Imagine not having a parent that buys the group package for his family?
>>106790333what are you fucking 5? please kill yourself faggot.
>>106790333you're 34 years old. time to pay your own bills and not be a burden on your own flesh and blood
>>106790292bcuz you use $10 headphones
>>106790344>>106790347>t. fatherless
>>106790301>>10679035399.9% of music is not mastered nearly well enough to benefit from FLAC, headphones don't play as big a factor as you think they do
>>106790333bragging about another man financing your life is not the flex you think it is.
because im not a audiotrannyphile
>>106790373You act like being on welfare wasn't the biggest flex on this site for a good while.
>>106790248because i have yt-dlp
>>106790347this guy isn't 34 no one calls their dad at that age "daddy". Hes 15 or something.
>>106790248I use spotify with my bike helmet intercom. It makes zero difference to me if there are subtle notes now.
>>106790424thats not the issue. being on welfare is fucking based and its good your family helps. its just the way you go about it discussing it you underage faggot
>>106790333>daddy
>>106790457>being on welfare is fucking basedit decidedly is not
>>106790477oh yes it is slave!
>>106790477https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf5_EONESIM
>>106790248Spotify is pretty based. It's the only streaming service I pay for. The ai playlists are goated.
>>106790248i dont care about music. anything i want to listen to is on youtube at a good enough fidelity. no musician is talented enough that lossless fidelity matters.
I saw a video from so audio austim expert and he said spotify's hardware interfaces are lacking, it cant use your DAC so there is really no benefit
>>106790301>>106790353https://abx.digitalfeed.net/spotify-hq.htmlthis abx is retarded as they used 320k cbr aac-lc for some reason rather than vbr vorbis (they claim it's unknown what spotify uses when it's pretty much common knowledge) but still, you aren't passing this shit.
>>106790248I have family shared Apple Music
>get both Mix and lossless at onceThat's my vibe sorted for later tonight
>>106790248use case when i stream all my audio from my home server and don't rely on cucked jewish services like spotted'a'goyim?
>>106790760the difference between regular playback going through the sound mixer of the operating system and bit-perfect exclusive output is even smaller than the difference between lossy and lossless, wathever video you watched wasn't from an autistic audio expert but rather a completely mentally retarded audiophool spreading misinformation (as they always do), don't listen to such people.
>>106790248I am
>>106790248>it doesn't have most of the music I listen to>I don't use streaming on my portable player, I use actual files>paying for music
>>106790248I'm not paying a corporation for my music >>106790353>>106790301no, it's been proven time and time again that people can't tell the difference. Have you taken the test yourself?>>106790292flac is useless but aac and opus is better for saving storage.
Finally can listen to AI slop in 24bit@44.1kHz
>>106790292Hearing the difference now isn't the reason to encode to FLAC. FLAC uses lossless compression, while MP3 is 'lossy'. What this means is that for each year the MP3 sits on your hard drive, it will lose roughly 12kbps, assuming you have SATA - it's about 15kbps on IDE, but only 7kbps on SCSI, due to rotational velocidensity. You don't want to know how much worse it is on CD-ROM or other optical media.I started collecting MP3s in about 2001, and if I try to play any of the tracks I downloaded back then, even the stuff I grabbed at 320kbps, they just sound like crap. The bass is terrible, the midrange…well don’t get me started. Some of those albums have degraded down to 32 or even 16kbps. FLAC rips from the same period still sound great, even if they weren’t stored correctly, in a cool, dry place. Seriously, stick to FLAC, you may not be able to hear the difference now, but in a year or two, you’ll be glad you did.
>>106790838>no recommendation algorithmsmissing out
>>106790962yes goyim, also be sure to click on whatever slop is on the first page of youtube. consume the slop goy and make sure to buy the advertised product, goy.
>>106790882>it doesn't have most of the music I listen towhat could you possibly be listening to
>>106790248I listen to black metal. It literally makes zero difference.
>>106790248my family pays for my apple music account, so why would I?Also, lossless is a scan.
>>106790950Based shitpost.How much rotational velocidensity loss on SSD storage? ^__^And how much on a WD Velociraptor HDD?
>>106790974>traditional middle eastern, iranian and central asian music>various classical and neoclassical performers and bands>various indie bands from across the world>obscure doujin music>video game soundtracks
imagine wasting money on spotify when you can just use pandora and not worry about ads cause of adblock, ngmi.
If I can't rip the music like I can with Tidal it's worthless
>>106790248wait, spotify was making millions renting out lame drm-ed mp3s to people up until now?
I like this better.
>>106791053spotify has used vorbis since its inceptionbut yes, they use drm, of course.
>>106790248It says "up to", which means they are not legally obligated to provide you with such
>>106790962these are horrible and keep you in a bubble of listening to the same kind of sounds with no variety. Algorithms aren't good for finding new music you'll like, unless you're alright with hearing the same exact stuff.
I have it but it still doesn’t sound as good as my personal flac collection
>>106790259>>106791186as long as enough people pay for mp3s and epubs, the jews won't care enough to do anything about piracy and we can all be happy live and let live
>>106790457>just a reminder that most cringelord zoomers are in their 20s and early 30s
>>106791279Love, live, laugh
>>106790248Explain to me why this matters when I’m going to use my Bluetooth headphones anyway
I converted my entire collection from FLAC to Opus at 160 kbps and didn't notice a difference. Opus won.
>>106791206it's an estimation of data usage not a limit
>>106791385I'm retarded I thought you were talking about 1GB
>>106790449nigga where do you live where fucking 15-year-olds unironically say "daddy" the fuck
>>106791385>>106791389You are forgiven
>>106790248I want to run music independently of God's chosen people.
>>106790347They get the five extra accounts regardless. Why would you post for a service you can get for free? Even though I torrent all my own music I'm still on my Stepfather's Spotify because he already has it for my Mom and two brothers. Why wouldn't I use the extra space they're already paying for?
>>106791392I wouldn't put it past anyone under 18 to say shit like that now days
>>106790248Cool, now you can scrape lossless audio files from Spotify.
>>106790248Can I also download albums and keep them forever? I don't pay for streaming trashware.
>>106790248buy an ad
>>106790248Shit UI.
>>106790248>go into Desktop app>set it to Lossless>sounds the same on my Senny 558sAudiophiles are all faggots.
Why would I ever use this fucking faggot app
>>106793176>mudheiser hd 558sYeah tell me more about relic mudcannon drivers from 30 years ago.
>>106793176Skill issue, train your ear more. I'm a composer and can tell very easily the difference between lossless flac and mp3.
Amazon music offers 16/24bit 44.1/48kHz FLAC | Dolby Atmos | 360 Audio
>>106793196Retard
>>106790248Because i've been using Amazon Music's lossless service for like 4+ years.
>>106793442It goes higher than thatpic related
>>106793295sure you canprove it: https://abx.digitalfeed.net/spotify-hq.html
>>106793196i feel like the only person that absolutely hated the 600ssome of the muddiest headphones ive ever had the displeasure of owning
>>106793486my phone can't handle over thathttps://youtu.be/DQici_3AmM4?t=2252from Windows can't play dolby/360
>>106793450>t. deaf>>106793579Their whole sub HD 800 lineup is literally using the same 3 decades old driver as a base. It's fucking horrid.Then again there's little to no reason to go for dynamic drivers nowadays when we have affordable, super low THD planars.
>>106793660So then what headphones should I get, smart guy.
>>106791383>using opus above 96 kbpsretard spotted, as always.
>>106793669Name your budget, sound signature preference, willingness to EQ and if you want them open or closed.
>>106793196>>106793579>any headphone that doesn't have massive turboautismo earraping screetching treble is "muddy"le audiophool has arrived
flac is a mental illness
>>106791053turns out that it actually does sound the same
>>106793687300 bucks, balanced, low, open
we could've just used v0 for everything but noooooo, you fucking spergs have to make everything complicated just for the sake of it
>>106790248because I have ymusic (don't even have to crack/vance it) and it sounds better than whatever trash you're using
>nooo how dare you criticize this stuck in the past, jewish manufacturer that hasn't innovated in decades and instead keeps rebranding the same ancient, underperforming driver and selling it for a premium
>>106793660The AR5000 is a dynamic and has lower THD across the board than any planar I've seen in that price range. Don't let the marketing get to you.
>>106790991>puts on burzum in PRISTINE LOSSLESS 2 MBIT/S FLAC on $399999.98 equipment>bzzzzz frrrrt fzzz brummmmfffzzzzzah, perfection
lossless you say
>>106790248Do audiofags even care about music? I understand HiFi on movies but caring about a few kbps in songs is straight up mental illness
>>106793727>>106793754
>>106793786Yup
>>106790248It's definitely a fuller sound, but then in some cases, in some albums, some songs are not loseless. Good way to try pick out the difference in loseless. Think it comes down to whether or not you have the song presaved in your device or added to the liked songs playlist.
Spotify bros, the BVLLS at The Headphone Show proved our lossless is shit... how do we cope?https://youtube.com/watch?v=mH2723cSejE
>>106793804>SACDno memes or audiophile scams please. take your SACD, your 24-bit 96KHz, your MQA, your NOS DACs, etc and begone.
>>106793823I'm paying no extra for it, so it's fine.
>>106793824>flactard says without a hint of self-awareness
>>106793824No need to be upset at multi-channel audio just because you only have stereo speakers or headphones.
>>106793815>fuller soundno it's not, you stupid cunt. there's nothing "fuller" about fucking lossless audio. I guaran-god-damn-tee you couldn't detect a difference between Vorbis 320 kbps and FLAC with accuracy greater than 50% an A/B test, let alone identify them.
>>106793836hey retarded nigger. hello. "flactards" don't collect FLAC because it "sounds" better. they collect it because it's the original, unadulterated music. why the fuck would you collect anything else? that would be like collecting fake paintings instead of real artwork. they might look good, but as a collection, it's fucking worthless.
>>106793490
>>106793865>it's the original, unadulterated musicit's not
>>106793888It's a 1:1 copy of the audio from the CD, assuming it was ripped correctly. Having a FLAC with accompanying QUE file like owning the disc.
>>106790366>he listens to 99.9% normie pleb shit
>>106793849>fullerLet's try complete
>>106790300>apple musicAND it doesn't increase in price every other day, spotifysissies are just buckbroken.
Reminder that using lossless sources and high-end audio hardware will actually degrade your experience if all you listen to is normie music since most of it suffers from dogshit record/mastering and is full of artifacts and white noise.All you'll achieve is hearing all that garbage in full detail.>t. audiofool who started listening to shit like classical and jazz just because those recordings normally enjoy high quality recording and mastering
>>106794006yes, adding more garbage to mask the smell of garbage is a brilliant strategy
>>106794035What are you even on about?
>>106793845>headphonesthere are no "surround" headphones, all you can do is hrtf which works on any headphone, so why did you include that?oh right you probably got scammed on some gaymer headset that has "virtual 7.1 surround" built in lmao
>>106794046...anon read my post.I'm the one who has surround sound speakers, i'm making fun of the OTHER anon because he probably has stereo speakers and or headphones, and thus can't properly utilize multi-channel audio.As you can see in the image I posted, that is a 6 channel (5.1) audio recording.
>>106791186>he uses the RuTracker just like I do!My nigga!Make sure that you create a Porno Lab account so that you can download all of the Fakku's porn!RuTracker/Porno Lab > Private Torrent Websites!
Because I have my local flac collection
>>106790248I couldn't care less about lossless audio. Also fuck paying for media.
>>106794043He's basically calling you a retard for listening to normie music in the first place.
>>106794056no, you read my post>there are no "surround" headphones, all you can do is hrtf which works on any headphone, so why did you include that?>As you can see in the image I posted, that is a 6 channel (5.1) audio recording.yes i can see that, so?
>>106794089...BECAUSE IM MAKING FUN OF HIM YOU DUMB FAGGOTHe implied multi-channel audio was some audiophile meme, I'm making fun of him for saying that by saying he probably has stereo speakers, or headphones.I am in NO WAY saying headphones can play surround audio.Kill yourself and learn to read jesus christ.
>>106794075I don't though?
>>106794104Ok.
>>106790248I have boycotted spotify since forever since they have always exercised woke political censorship.Buy an ad.
>>106794097>I am in NO WAY saying headphones can play surround audio....but they can...and every headphone can, hrtf software is universalyou still don't fucking get it do you?>learn to readsays the retard that cannot comprehend shit
>>106790248Because I've had Deezer for years before Spotify got lossless.- It's cheaper- Has no DRM- Deemix can download music from it
>>106794129No, they literally can't.They PRETEND they can.Are you actually so retarded that you think "surround" sound from headphones sounds ANYTHING like surround sound from a properly configured 5.1+ system?
>>106794131>Deemix can download music from itNot anymore.
>>106794129He probably didn't imagine there would be anyone so stupid as to think stereo HRTF is anything close to actual multi-channel audio with dedicated channels for playback.
>>106794138>>106794150>no they can't play surround sound because it doesn't sound anything like a properly configured 5.1+ surround systemthanks for confirming that heapdphones can in fact reproduce different channels with sounds that come from different directions, just not as good as speakers.
>>106790713>>106790742Please stop replying to me. Poorfags disgust me. Ick.
>>106790248while im fully aware that high audio quality makes a difference, the amount of time, energy, and money it requires to enjoy the results are not worth it to me. i will never pay for music but im also fine ripping music from youtube and calling it good enough
>>106794634>im also fine ripping music from youtube and calling it good enoughJesus Christ, dude
>>106790248I am into Hypnagogic Pop and Black Metal, so the worse quality, the better
>>106790292What the fuck are you talking about? Even with picrel you can notice the difference. Do you have any hearing problem?
>>106790259>paying for Spotify
ive had lossless for the past 25 years now
>>106794379Neetchads mog you
i like to organically find and listen to new music even if it takes much longer and with less volume, it's more rewarding to find a quality artist this way
>>106790248>Why aren't you using spotify anon?https://stallman.org/spotify.html
Because I already have this shit and it's really cheap. No reason to switch.
>>106795325> "useds" instead of "users"it reads like a very clever 15 year old wrote it
>>106790292have you considered that the audio quality for spotify specifically was much worse prior
>>10679024816-bit full-band stereo PCM compressed with flac is often barely twice the bitrate your pic describes as "very high" lossy, 1 GiB per hour would be more than uncompressed 24-bitin fact you probably couldn't even tell the difference between 160 and 320 kbps from modern lossy codecs like libopus, which is already a meaninglessly high bitrate for stereo
>>106790248cause i keep the music i like locally.
>>106790248I've been digging old pastoral sermon Cassette tapes out of my grandma's storage, removing the labels, and recording over them with the audio stream from whoever happens to be operating the DJ table in my usual second life hangout, using the cassette deck I hooked up to my PC.Then, I play those cassettes in my car. Suck my fat zoomer ass, Spotify.And if I don't feel like fucking with tapes, I also have a CD changer that is controlled by the tape deck. Same setup in my other car, too. Won't tell you where I get all my blank CDs because then you'll ruin it.
>>106790292truke
>>106790248lossless is for archiving not for listening
>>106790248i am using spotify, but im not paying for it. i just skip the ads by closing the app and opening it back up again. it also helps to actually start playing the song i want to listen to, instead of wasting a finite amount of skips just to *maybe* get to it. hahahahahahahaha the one thing that makes this app usable is fucking bug, jesus christ.
>>106790292>zero difference between 320kbps and flacit has been scientifically proven that even though listeners cannot distinguish compressed vs uncompressed audio from a quality perspective, listening to compressed audio for an extended period of time becomes a lot more physically uncomfortable than with raw audio
or you could>own all your music>pay nothing>stream lossless to any computer/phone>transcode to 320 or VBR on mobile data
>>106796223just open spotify on your browser, adblockers work on it
>>106796210If you're streaming it doesn't really matter. My home connection is 800mbit and I'm not paying the CDN bill.
>>106793764Burzum albums are actually well-produced compared to some other classical albums (early Darkthrone, natten madrigals, etc.) and the legions of legit awful shits put on tape
>>106794764Disagree. Being on givt chump change put you at the very bottom on the ladder.Neets are like pigeons pecking crumbs off my sandwich I'm eating at a park. Amusing for a while, but ultimately forgettable and irrelevant.
>>106793976Only crappelsissies use crappel.
>>106797116I have never owned an Apple product in my life but I use Apple Music as you can see here: >>106795351The service is affordable. The quality is high. The pricing of the competition was never competitive.
>>106790259FPBP
>>106793786Yup, lossless.
>>106797186This is my lossless drive. Still have a bunch of shit on my seedbox I need to sync to it so my actual collection is larger than this already.
>>106797246Fuck somehow I forgot to crtl+v
>>106797153I have used it and it's trash, no one buys your bs crappelsissy
>>106790248Im using AIMP, what is spotify
Because I can just use youtube and fuck spotify
>>106797258There's barely any difference between the streaming services except the price. Roughly $3 per month and lossless. Why would I pay for something else? I rarely use it. I plan to set things up so I can rip files from it and do ALAC->FLAC conversions for archiving.
>>106797302I just checked and Spotify Premium costs ₱169 here versus Apple's ₱139. Spotify only just now added lossless. No reason to switch, pay more, etc. Qobuz/Tidal/Deezer aren't officially offering service here. If I used them I would need to pay first world prices. Fuck that.
>>106794714>dfference so noticeable he has never performed an abx test and never willkys
>>106790248Because im not some dope who likes making some rich fag richer than the people who I use their service for.No, I'm a retard who believes in paying the musicians $2-10 on other less-but-still-often-shit services like bandcamp for singular albums.
>>106795462>16-bit full-band stereo PCM compressed with flac is often barely twice the bitrate your pic describes as "very high" lossy...yeah maybe if you listen to only classical music or other shit with a lot of dynamic range? 99.9% of music out there will barely compress with flac, average library would be about 1000 kbps.seriously I can count on my hands the amount of times i've come across a <700 kbps flac, it's very rare.
Why would I pay for Spotify when I can pay for YouTube premium and get access to a bigger music library, the ability to upload my own music, and ad-free YouTube?Im not paying for the music, I'm paying for discovery.
>>106797359YouTube with an ad blocker is free bro.
>>106797302>>106797315Spotify is a much better platform with better music discovery. The AI playlists are very good.>>106797359The YouTube Music app is trash and their discovery playlists are trash. And I'm not paying for YouTube because I'm not a cuck like you.
>>106797343When you have a massive collection all those hundreds of MBs you shave off individual albums adds up.
>>106797369I don't want AI playlists. I've heard what's on them when sitting in the lobby at work. They suck shit.
>>106797382You're stupid then. I have found a lot of great music from them.
>>106797360>>106797369>Music player with cloud storage and YouTube >Vs>MusicWhat is it you don't understand? YouTube premium is objectively the better option if you are paying. You use spotify because you are cattle, that's it.
>>106794149I literally used it yesterday. I also wrote my own downloader.
>>106797394Slopify users have crazy brand attachment they will never see sense. For them it's they feel like they'll get bullied for not using slopify.
>>106797394I pay for Apple Music but usually I just listen to the files that are on my phone. I don't need cloud storage. Mobile data here isn't unlimited (unless you are in areas with 5g coverage) so it doesn't make sense.
>>106797394Are you a shill working for youtube? Only cucks pay for youtube. It's slooop central and you can use an adblocker if you need to use it.
>>106797406Opposite is true, crappelfans are corpocucks even though apple is an evil company that makes computers that are impossible to repair.
>>106797394>Giving money to Google.>Not cattle.>>106797406Spotify is a music streaming company at least.Google is an advertisement company that just wants to harvest your data.I don't use Spotify myself, I use Deezer instead, but I can understand some people liking Spotify but liking Google is just the most Goycattle thing there is.
>>106797087>>106794764Being on welfare is great, you're getting a piece of the pie that women and immigrants are gobbling up already. Good for you.No respect for leeching of parents, though. You got every benefit in life but you're throwing it away for the next generation, a true failure. Disgusting in the same way it's disgusting how boomers who lived an easy life will spend everything and reverse-mortgage their house to go travel and leave nothing to inherit. At least use their connections to get a job or their help to get welfare/insurance.
>>106797419>>106797420You literally have no counterargument lmao.(YouTube Premium + Cloud storage + YouTube music + All the rare stuff and mixes people have posted) > (JUST Music) You are paying for an objectively inferior service lmao.
>>106797446>Spotify aren't harvesting and selling your data>has a smartphone anyway tracking him at all times anywayThat's a cute LARP and cope for the fact you pay for an inferior service
>>106797468What good is cloud storage going to be for me when I'm sitting on a bus, listening to my favorite music, and we pass one of the two or three spots on the route where the cell service just fucking stops working? YouTube premium is roughly the same price as Apple Music but I won't get the lossless music to archive locally and put on my phone. Also I need to factor in paying to use more mobile data. I'm not poor and I could afford it but it's a hassle.
256kbps aacyou don't need more
>>106797373your original argument was "high bitrate lossy makes no sense when it's 320 kbps and flacs are just 640 kbps"now you moved the goalpost to "1000 kbps is still good compared to the original 1411 pcm"...but that makes your original argument fall apart completely, since high quality lossy is less than 1/3 of the average flac fileso what the fuck is your point? moving the goalpost isn't helping you in any way
>>106790259If music torrents were actually on public trackers this would be valid but I make six figures and fucking around with getting accepted into and remaining in a pirate music sharing community would cost me way more time than the money I spend on Spotify
>>106797482>Spotify aren't harvesting and selling your dataThey really aren't.Their business model is selling music subscriptions, Google's business model is selling ads.For Spotify you're a customer, for Google you're the product.
>>106797491What good is cloud storage going to be for me when I'm sitting on a bus, listening to my favorite music, and we pass one of the two or three spots on the route where the cell service just fucking stops working?Thats true for any streaming service you brain damaged retard and is completely irrelevant given you can download and store your uploads and any music or videos locally any time you want you fucking retard. >>106797510You're so naive and still coping for the fact YouTube premium is objectively better.
>>106797503Well here, I'm going to check the bitrates of random files from different albums that are sitting on my NVME (I should really move these to my external hard drive)Bit rate : 776 kb/sBit rate : 794 kb/sBit rate : 995 kb/sBit rate : 915 kb/sBit rate : 952 kb/sBit rate : 808 kb/sBit rate : 978 kb/sBit rate : 715 kb/sAs you can see it varies. Any storage space saved helps when you're doing archival. Lossy bitrates on the other hand, it depends on the codec and encoder you are using. 128 opus should be fine for phones. But let's say you have a Toyota car with a SD card slot in it's player and want to use that or some shit. Then v2 or v0 mp3s encoded with Lame are going to be a better option.
>>106797534>As you can see it varies. wow big fucking discovery there, did you even read what i've just said?what kind of music is that? but it doesn't even matter because guess what, you proved my point once again, none of that is close to 640 kbps, the average is closer to 1000 kbps than it is to 640, you're full of shit.>Lossy bitrates on the other hand, it depends on the codec and encoder you are using....ok and?I don't understand why you keep throwing completely unrelated common-knowledge information at random in your posts.
>>106797563Why does it need to be close to 640? I'm not putting it on my phone. I'm storing it on multi-TB drives.
>>106790373it is
Thanks OP. Just turned it on and then realized there is an EQ now. I really need to go to the settings more often. What is good general preset?
>>106790333My dad used to buy CDs
>>106797588>Why does it need to be close to 640?...because that's what you fucking claimed originally?
>>106790333The fact that you call him "daddy" is quite telling. I figured out long ago that anything given to me by my father is not truly free. It's just a way for him to try to exert control over my life. Something to hold over me when I do something he doesn't agree with. My sister hasn't been smart enough to figure this out yet and she's in her mid 30s paying him for a car and rent that used to be free. She can't drive that car where ever she wants either.
>>106797619I think you have me confused with someone else lmao.>>106797610Mine did too. I taught him how to use BearShare and the cracked copy of Nero I installed on the family computer. Simpler times.
>>106797468I don't want youtube premium and I don't want cloud storage from google. Everyone is already too dependent on google, so I don't want to be even more dependent on them. And I have used youtube music and it's trash. The app is horrible and the recommendations is horrible. I can afford to pay a couple of dollars more. Maybe consider getting a job if you think a couple of dollars more a month is a problem. Spotify is the only streaming service I pay for.
>>106797720>I don't want youtube premium and I don't want cloud storage from google.(YouTube Premium + Cloud storage + YouTube music + All the rare stuff and mixes people have posted) > (JUST Music)You are quite literally just coping over a superior service.>And I have used youtube music and it's trash. The app is horrible and the recommendations is horrible.I have used spopify and it's trash. The app is horrible and the recommendations is horrible.>I can afford to pay a couple of dollars more. Maybe consider getting a job if you think a couple of dollars more a month is a problem.Who is even talking about price? I'm pretty sure youtube premium is the more expensive option you fucking retard lol>Slopify is the only streaming service I pay for.Yeah, because you are a retard. You are paying for an objectively inferior service without a single argument why.
>>106797777I could just install the revanced version of yt music, but I don't need or want it.
>>106797604Depends on your listening hardwareThere is no such thing as a generalized EQ
>>106797788Yeah instead you're paying for an inferior service like a retard lmao
>>106797797Apple Music is $3 here. What do I care?
>>106797805Assuming you're the guy telling me to "get a job", you're awfully touchy about pricing. I hadn't even considered that angle, but maybe you were projecting all along LOL
>>106797821You're the second person in this thread who thinks everyone replying to them is the same person.
>>106797630
>>106797826>Assuming you're the guyI literally prefaced my reply with this you clueless retard LMAOKeep up
>>106790248Still don't have it after a month. Everyone else in my family subscription has it.
>>106797639>I think you have me confused with someone else lmao.that makes all of your posts even more nonsensejesus fucking christ what a retard you are
>>106790248>Why aren't you using spotify anon?my favorite band pulled their music from spotify because the CEO was into AI killer drones and now they are the highest selling artist on Bandcamp. All of their music is pay what you want, and they even upload extremely high quality bootlegs of their live shows.https://daily.bandcamp.com/features/king-gizzard-and-the-lizzard-wizard-interview
>>106799197I'm the OP you replied to, my original point was that very high bitrate lossy stereo is, on one hand, a technical hack originally based on CBR which is very inefficient, one the other hand, practically useless in term of transparency for modern codecs, and finally I noted that in my experience using flac with the tukey apodization function tend to yield bitrates in the range of 600-800 kbps which is not so far removed, but if your music is especially noisy I can believe that's not the case, not that it probably changes the efficiency of lossy codecs at low to medium bitrate, also note that flac is not geared for maximum compression but low decode complexity, you might want to try and benchmark using something like wavpack -hh instead (and make sure you're using 16/44.1 quantizations)
>>106790292>zero difference between 320kbps and flacNot only that, but using 24 bit FLAC instead of 16 bit is just silly.
>slopify retards bullied into submission you love to see it
>>106797630Sounds like one fucked up father
>>106800613people who say daddy have sexual relationships with senior men
>>106790259glad this is fpbp material
>>106800613god forbid his dad isnt a total faggot like yours lol
>>106797461>>106797087i dont even think about you. i do as I please daily. You eat at the park? I live a in a 5 room house
>>106793486Only 24 bits!? Fuck sake, I can hear the dither from over here.
>>106800848His dad sounds like a fucking faggot. Charging his kids for rent? He's a piece of shit instantly.
>dl 16/44.1 FLAC wherever possible and listen to it on whatever, wherever>also dl 320 mp3, yt opus rips, various aac rips etc. and just accept that too
I stopped using Spotify because their infinite shuffle algorithm became utter dogshit. The primary benefit to streaming services for music over local files is the ability to easily find new artists, songs or albums you enjoy without having to wade through as much trash. Spotify, probably about 6 years ago, changed their algorithm to stop recommending you shit you didn’t already have on rotation, which negates the entire point for me of streaming. If I just wanted to listen to music I already know I like, it’d just buy the albums and use an MP3 player or similar
>>106799261Helsing is the biggest supplier of attack drones to Ukraine. These parasites are russian shills.
>>106797777No one gives a shit about youtube music because it's shit. I'm telling you it because I have used it. The app is shit, the recommendations are shit. Everything about it is shit.
>>106790248Have they stopped A-B testing shit on their paying customers? It's the reason I left. Apple Music just werks on mobile. Desktop app is shit, but all I care about is play, fast forward and rewind. Spotify couldn't get that shit right.
>>106790248I don’t pay subscription fees for music like a millennial chump
>>106802233My DAC supports higher, but almost all music is mastered at 24-bit unless it's DSD (then it's 1-bit, but much higher sample rate).
>>106790259broke nigga alert.
>>106790248>my faggotry has been upgayedshut the fuck up normalfucktard
>>106790248listening to taytay's new album is gonna be so nice!
>>106803137She is getting uglier every year. Never liked her music.
>>106790248i replaced music with asmr
>>106802788Your shit is so bad you should be paying me to listen to it. Fuck you.
>>106790292>zero difference between 320kbps and flac, anyone who says otherwise has fallen for audiofool placeboIf you have a mediocre system and/or you're deaf to sound quality, then by all means keep your 320Kbps. When you have a really, really good sound system of good treated room, speakers and amplifier (not headphones!), you'll not just want FLAC, you'll also want higher resolution files. >anyone who says otherwise has fallen for audiofool placeboIt's sad that you are a newfag to audio thus haven't experienced audio nirvana...
>>106803137This looks like a 38 year old woman that should have had children long ago.
>>106797116Ironically works better on Androids because iToddlerphones have gimped Lightning/USB-C ports and>listening to lossless on wirelesslol
>>106803654meant for >>106797116 sorry
>>106802783>but almost all music is mastered at 24-bitSure, but then it's mostly dithered down to and released as 16bit
>>106797369>falling for the auto-generated playlist scamDid you know Spotify started making their own slop music to add to their recommended playlists so they can avoid paying royalties?
>>106803668They will also shove major label slop onto every unrelated playlist they possibly can to force it onto youhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyTR6EYogpk
>>106790259It's genuinely embarrassing to pirate shit once you're an adult.Do you not have any friends? You don't ever associate with other adults? It sounds very obvious to me you're not the kind of person who makes eye contact regularly because I don't think you'd be able to do so and say "oh yeah I downloaded an mp3 of that illegally on my computer".
>>106803694There's a lot of music that isn't on streaming services at all. Also sometimes the best quality versions are not available on streaming services. Besides that your argument hinges on what other people think. Once you reach adulthood this should stop being important to you. At least if you aren't an insecure loser who is constantly looking over your shoulder worrying about what the next guy thinks.
>>106803709>Besides that your argument hinges on what other people think.It's far more than that. It's about actually being a real human being in the real world. There is a stark delineation between the kind of perpetual adult basement loser who still pirates movies and music and a functioning adult who associates with others. They don't cross over. Eventually at some point if you want to become an adult you need to stop being controlled by your hedonism and obsessive data hoarding.
>>106803720I get what I want for free in better quality than what you pay for. What's not to like? You would be surprised about attitudes towards piracy if you actually talked to people instead of just assuming things. Few people I know care about the moral aspects of it that the mass media industrial complex tried to push. The reason they aren't pirating isn't because they think it's bad. They don't want to deal with a torrent client, managing files, etc. They want a frictionless experience like streaming services offer. So if you set your friends or family up with a Plex or Jellyfin share then automate the downloading of the shows and movies they want to see they will be quite happy with it.
>>106803694Adults pirate stuff all the time lol. This performative "ew, you don't do $thing?" stuff is high school tier. Normal people go "cool" and forget about it.
>>106803860I stopped giving a fuck around the time I reached 23 years old. Life's too short to live up to anyone's standards but your own.
I'd either pirate whatever I want in FLAC format, or buy a CD and rip it. Why would I pay for slop where most stuff is gone for copyright reasons?
>>106791569lol your dad's a cuck
Anyway guys who know about audio, what are the BEST Headphones my 50 USD/eur Can buy?
>>106802605(YouTube Premium + Cloud storage + YouTube music + All the rare stuff and mixes people have posted) > (Just Slopify's inferior library)You have no retort. You're paying for an objectively shitter service. I accept your concession.
streaming services are for cucks, the real way is pirating all the music
>>106803694keeps t-shirt on at the pool vibes tbfh
>>106805348Well it's not like pirated copies of music magically appear on the internet. That's why I like to retain the ability to rip from streaming services myself. What I download from there I can distribute to private trackers and soulseek.
>>106805348Discovering new music on streaming services>Click recommended>Immediately listen to other similar bandsDiscovering new music when pirating>Going on some gay website >Read some gay reddit comments or even worse /mu/>Go on some gay torrent site>Copy the magnet link >Paste into torrent client>Listen to it and find out its fucking trask>>But anon you can just use youtube to see if its good. Oh, a streaming service? For cucks? Sounds cucked.
>>106805367I don't need music "recommended" to me (pushed on me) by an algorithm. I know what I like. I stay up to date with what's going on in my favorite genres. I check torrent sites on fridays for new releases. I also listen to some streaming radio stations where music is still selected by humans who aren't getting paid to suggest it to me.
>>106805376>I don't need music "recommended" to me (pushed on me) by an algorithm.It's music you retard, not politics. If you don't like it you don't listen to it.>I check torrent sites on fridays for new releases.
>>106805376>I check torrent sites on fridays for new releases.No you don't.>I also listen to some streaming radio stations where music is still selected by humans who aren't getting paid to suggest it to me.Those humans are being paid to suggest it to you. You're so naive.
>>106805384>No you don't.Assume all you like. I go here and grab anything that catches my interest. It ends up shared with anybody who wants it on soulseek as well.>Those humans are being paid to suggest it to you. You're so naive.There's a better way:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIP_(radio_station)Imagine a radio station where they just play whatever they feel like at the moment. No care about genre, what record label it came from, what year it came from, or what language it's in. Just commercial free music 24/7. Some of it popular. Some of it incredibly obscure. But most of the time it makes sense. You can understand why thee person who chose these songs decided to group them together. It's great.
>>106805401>Assume all you like. I go here and grab anything that catches my interest. Yeah, which is objectively an inferior way to discover new music.>There's a better way:The better way is using streaming because you immediately have a near-infinite library you can go through that uses algorithms to find people moving onto similar music. The second best is to use something like last.fm to find artists similar to you.The most retarded way to discover music is to listen to a fucking radio station.
>>106805427I found music I liked before streaming. I didn't need somebody or something to tell me what I might like. I found my own way. I will keep doing things that way. A lot of music that I enjoy isn't available on streaming services at all. Some of it is even illegal, as in works created that violate copyright laws. Before streaming services you could download bootlegs, homemade remixes and mashups, whatever the fuck you could find on p2p. The internet made it so nobody could tell you what you're allowed to listen to. I never forfeited that.
>>106805455>I found music I liked before streaming.So did every you fucking moron. That doesn't mean the old way of doing things is better you fuck head.>I found my own way. I will keep doing things that way.No, you're just doing what everyone else did for a LARP because you think it gives you some credibility on an anonymous board. I bet you're some shit-hot quake player and you use IRC as well.>A lot of music that I enjoy isn't available on streaming services at all.Are you truely so fucking brain damaged that you think my position is you can ONLY use streaming services? Also, I guarantee 99% of that shit has been uploaded to youtube anyway.>The internet made it so nobody could tell you what you're allowed to listen to. I never forfeited that.Pic related.
>>106805455>>A lot of music that I enjoy isn't available on streaming services at all.>upload to personal library>stream whenever I want
>>106805488I don't understand why someone choosing their own path in life angers you so much. It's as if you take it as an attack on what you choose to do. If you love algorithmic playlists go ahead and listen to them all day long. I can't stop you, nor do I care to try to stop you. It's your decision not mine. I do things the way I do because it's what I like. I'm not totally stuck in the past. I use a streaming service I just search for the songs I want to hear on it when they pop into my head. As much as I try to hold onto all the control that I can I still give some of it up for modern conveniences. But in many cases I'll be one of the last holdouts and I like it that way.
>>106805519To sum it all up they turned the internet into a big digital Wal-Mart. How sad. I'm the guy hanging out in the back alley behind it. Sometimes I go inside to take a piss and buy a Mountain Dew even though I hate the place.
Uh. So they did not even consider that the user may be using a network cable and this appears regardless of what is used.I need to cancel this shit asap. After years without spoopify I subbed again in September at half the price for for a very specific use case and i haven't touched it again.
>>106790248Firstly its lossy due to the shit implementation of the software. Secondly it still doesnt matter, most people won't be able to tell the difference between 320kbpa mp3 and lossless anyways. Fourthly, lmao paying for music.Fithly, if you want to pay then buy a physical copy to support the artist. Sixthly, if you want to pay and get a better quality music without compression of the dynamic range, Apple music Atmos exists which is superior to normal "lossless" releases. Seventhly, you are likely a normie consumer with shit gear and taste and would likely prefer compressed version.
>>106803694I mostly just pirate tv shows, some of which I might buy the dvd/blu-ray if I enjoyed them and buy used CD's to later rip.I am considering torrering some hard to find shit, but I dont know any private trackers.
Where do you go to pirate music nowadays? I havent downloaded music since the Kazaa days and I really should be building an offline library.
>>106790248Why is it still limited to 44khz? DVDs had 48khz audio 30 years ago.
>>106790248>44.1 kHz>losslessDownsampling to 44.1 kHz causes noticeable ringing artifacts below 20 kHz compared to downsampling to 48 kHz, which is why DVDs use 48.>>106806803Absolutely right. 44.1 kHz is legacy 70s tech.
>>106790301>you need to pay $5000 just to hear the differencewhat a great waste of money, vinyl is cheaper.
>>106790347>>106790449>>106791392he's a 26 year old faggot
>>106806946>70s techVinyl audio has infinite frequency response. CD audio is a downgrade from vinyl just as streaming is a downgrade from CD audio.
>>106790292i use lossless where possible for archival purposes
>>106805519>I don't understand why someone choosing their own path in life angers you so muchBecause you retards gloat about doing things an objectively worse way and act smug about it. I've explained explicitly how streaming services offer objectively better discovery than other methods and you outright refuse to acknowledge reality and insist on some fucking stupid LARP.
>>106803663>Sure, but then it's mostly dithered down to and released as 16bitNah, it's pretty common these days for the master to be 24-bit, it might get a CD release at 16-bit, but the master used for digital distribution will be 24-bit.
>>106807364That's just not what I'm into. You do things your way. I'll do things my way. No need to get all pissy about it.
>>106803694>he feels the need to tell everything he does to his friendsI bet you don't even have friends because you keep talking about how you jacked off to BBC or some similar degenerate shit.
>>106790248>Why aren't you using spotify anon?bc im not a paypig.
>>106803694Not a single employed soul gives a shit about what you do or how you acquire music.
>>106803694okay jew boy
>>106806971>CD audio is a downgrade from vinyllowqualitybait.jpg>just as streaming is a downgrade from CD audiohow the fuck is a 44.1khz 16 bit flac worse than cd audio when it's literally the same exact pcm data.
>>106790248sorry but I'm still sticking with apple music
>>106790333What kind of man leeches off of his family? No man. No man at all.
>>106790259fpbp op btfo'd
>>106790248i decided a week ago that i will not pay monthly to listen music i could have stored, i'm gonna buy a nice audio player and forget all about subscription crap. No subscription, no bullshit apps, no bullshit configuration, no bullshit "this song can't be played for whatever bullshit reason", no unavailable records bullshit, fuck spotifyu, fuck Tidal and fuck any music streaming service, fuck you all.
>>106807814Reminder: You were trying to sell me on your way of doing things as if it was better when it objectively isn't.
>>106790333>my daddy paysmaybe i'm the only one here who understood he wasn't talking about his biological father, his daddy is the dude that scratches his prostate
>>106803694I was having some watercooler talk today with a perfectly normal female coworker from another department who marveled at how fast she could torrent netflix series since her household switched to fiber (her husband is the geek)
>>106807932CD is literally incapable of representing the entire analog audio signal perfectly. It's objectively a downgrade. Just because it's "good enough" for human hearing doesn't mean it isn't still worse.
Why did this take so long
>>106803137tranny looking bitch
>>106796273what's your server setup
>>106790248I like the satisfaction of knowing the artists don't get a red cent from my music plays, and the fact there is no megacorp tracking what I am listening to. It's really that simple.
>>106808716>vinyl is capable of representing the entire analog audio signal perfectlyjesus christ, please, let this be bait.
>>106811149an old desktop PC running a ~half dozen docker containers on top of debian. raid 5 array for storage. dead simple
>>106808716It's fucking hilarious that you think vinyl can represent the signal perfectly. CD is significantly better quality than vinyl. You're objectively wrong and an idiot if you think otherwise.
>>106790259>torrenting every album you want to listen to i've been there and it's redious
>>106790248this little baby plays lossless flac and i dont have to worry about my library "disappearing" if i dont give spotifyjew a monthly fee.
>>106807948its nice because it has music videos but as soon as you dont pay for the monthly fee they revoke access to your library. also forbidden fruit, apple. satanic.
>>106803694usecase for friendship?
>>106806971kekw
>>106803694Mr Shekelberg disapproves.
>>106790991my fren, you are precious.
>>106791206your cat photo is rather beautiful and so are you, anon. God Bless.
>>106794714how do you find those headphones? using beyerdynamic dt 770 and looking to get a replacement.
>>106796273BASADO
>>106790248>not 48 kHzlol, what is the the point of this when the source is just a shitty 16 bit audio cd
>>106806946I had a black sabbath heaven and hell in dsd format, not sure where it was ripped from but on my hd600s (also using external amp/dac) it's the best sounding music I ever listened to. >>106806946
>>106790248I download flacs of music I listen to on SoulseekI never actually listen to them though because I prefer to watch them on youtube where I can see the videoAny solution to this?Way to download music videos with flac audio encoding?
Also AFAIK you can't get lossless quality over bluetoothSo listening to spotify lossless is retarded unless your earbuds are wired
>>106790248>Turn on lossless quality>Can't hear any differenceIt's joever for me isn't it?
>>106790292All those audioimbeciles getting butt mad with this simple trick lol
