Why not put data center in space?
>>106796803> space travel provider "predicts" data centers requiring space travel
just move the thing to space to make it more expensive, slower and impossible to fix when it breaks thank dr. bezos
how would you cool it?
>>106796919i thought space was cold
>>106796919noctua fans
>>106796803This sounds kind of stupid. Getting rid of heat in space is a massive issue and also getting enough energy for all that compute. I guess data-links could be done with tight-beams but the heat problem remains as a pretty big issue.This is just a fake, AI article, right?
>>106796919Interesting to see how many radiators there needs to be just to cool a bathtub worth of water in space.
>>106796931Do you understand how a thermos isolates the beverage from the outside environment?
>>106796919>turn heat into energy>run the servers with it
>>106796931Space is "cold" but won't cool stuff. At least not by conduction, which is what computers coolers use.I say "cold" because the concept of temperature we're used to applies to matter and empty space is the absence of that.
This is just part of militarizing space. Every west coast tech company is dripping to become the next Northrop Grumman.
>>106796803>kike billionaire says thing
just because money does not mean smart
Can't wait for the retard elites to put all their cloud data into an orbital server and then the next sun storm or another rouge chink satellite kills it
>>106796803How do you cool down power hungry chips in space?
>>106797202Also space has very hot particles, but because there are so few of them, it feels cold. And the temperature for objects in space can increase up to 120°C if not in a shadow
>inventing new fake buisness ideas for your existing fake business
>>106797564Just land on a cool place like Pluto.
>>106797849>Land>In space
>>106796803These people live in a fucking bubble holy shit. 10 seconds of googling can tell you that he's wrong, but his top jeets will bob their heads and say "yes saar we use cold of space saar". So used to just getting what they want they can make shit up and it happens.
>>106796803Not even antarctica or alaska, but fucking space. Wtf is unc yapping about?
>>106798226jurisdiction is a very iffy thing in space where in 15 minutes you can cross half a dozen countries (orbital velocities)
>>106797202It's so fucking cold, radiation works (not pointing at the sun obviously). Google's LLM says about 350 Watt per m2 for a room temperature radiator.
space is too far above the cloud
>>106797849Uranus is a much more suitable location to put it
just kepler syndrome my shit up bro
>>106796803>Why not put data center in space?why not here?https://archiveprogram.github.com/arctic-vault/
>>106796803Cosmic rays.The Earth's magnetic field doesn't only protect life, but it also protects equipment and information.There is a reason why no windows run in space. Every OS in space needs some sort of bit-rotten protection because at any moment cosmic rays can hit a memory and flip a bit. As a matter of fact, this happens A LOT. It is crazy how much computational power is wasted because they need to check and correct the memory every few cycles.
Is this the best timeline to become a data analyst?
>>106799050only in yemen
>>106799050AI already does this
Only makes sense in some future where we paved a significant fraction of the earth in solar panels and need to start thinking about expanding to space to keep up with the growth demand.
>>106796803Sounds like a legal nightmare.Projects like Starlink or OneWeb still don't have the authorization to operate in several countries, despite physically covering those area. In their cases, it's usually because those country don't want to open their ISP markets to foreign concurrence.Space datacenter would face the same kind of political/legal issue. The EU requires the datacenter servicing the Europeans to be physically located in Europe, for example.
>>106798864what can you explain how you got to that conclusion without saying ai told me
>>106798864>3D object in space>W/m2???
Just build them in the mountains or the poles or even Canada/Alaska what the fuck.
>>106798864Radiation works because it's the only thing that will work in space. It works on earth too but it's shit compared to evaporative cooling. With 350W/m2 cooling, each NVIDIA RTX PRO 6000 (TDP 600W) will need basically need 2 square radiators of length 1m. That is a ridiculous amount of space dedicated to cool ONE GPU.But on the other hand, it would be pretty cool to see the shadow being cast on earth by slop generating machines.
>>106799275Solve the warming by solar slop shading.
>>106796803because the throughput and latency will be garbage, its retarded. also, there's enough pollution already, lets just keep the sattalites working
>>106796803Its more feasible to see underwater data centers, than data centers on space. Once again Bezos is full of shit
>>106796803Dare I say it... usecase?
>>106796803>they don't knowbros what is the hash rate relative to earth for crypto near a larger celestial body?
>>106796803Bezos is a mega cuck. His "wife" gets BBC on the daily.
>>106796931Space is cold but has an absolutely shit thermal conductivity. It's cold but not in a way that enables it to cool things efficiently.
>>106796919escape velocity water cannon
>>106796803he's fucking retarded. One of the most difficult/expensive things to do in outer space is vent excess heat.>>106796919this anon understands.
>>106796803CEOs are just straight grifting now to get investment money. people who are this dumb to fall for something as stupid as outer space data centers in 10 years should only have enough capital to buy a mcmuffin and that's it.>duuuuuuuuuuuuuude AWS is outer space. that's wiiiiiiild man. that's gonna be like a trillion dollars broooooooooodidnt read the article btw. didnt verify if its even real lmfao
>>106796803>Why not put data center in space?How much does it weigh? How much does launching 1kg of mass into a stable orbit cost?That's why not.
>>106801010sad to say but that is the winning strat now>2008 happens>fed starts printing money>inflation somehow doesn't happen>"i guess its le ok then">keeps printing money for the NEXT 15 YEARSlittle did they know, all that money went into assets like stocks and houses. the ordinary person that works and spends money has no relevant money to spend, and the only people with money are asset owners and boomers who own houses. so the economy is doing this kinda shit instead of anything useful.
>>106796803How does he expect to power them?What about cooling?
>>106798889kek
>>106796803Cooling, power, connectivity, weight.WTF kind of retarded idea is this? I could understand ISPs like starlink offering S3 compatible CDN space on their satellites but datacenters? Fuck no.
>>106799275>>106798864Lol is your thermos cold? Go get a raspbery pi (even a pi zero) and put it in there with a battery and then come back here and tell us how cold space is.
>>106796919liquid tungsten pissed out into space
>>106796803yeah, easier to delete. nuke it once and done
>>106796803Do you think that Elon Musk did to tech CEOs what Trump did to politics? Where Trump normalised throwing around insults and made politics less civil, and Elon normalised saying dumb impossible sci-if ideas that even high schooler could figure out are stupid?
>>106801251>100% solar>????
>>106804133>Trump normalised throwing around insultsnope. That was the late night shows, like Jonathan Liebowitz (who is in the religion of protesting ICE)
>>106799275>But on the other hand, it would be pretty cool to see the shadow being cast on earth by slop generating machines.I'd imagine the sword wielding sand people would try to missle it out of the sky very quickly
>>106798889>You have run out of storage space in your space drive. Would you like purchase more space in space?
>>106796803Jeff is rich, but not "move millions of tons of material into space" rich.
>>106796803They generate a lot of heat and that is hard to get rid of in space.
>>106797148That's also very hard to do in an efficient manner.
>>106796803Antarctica would be a far better option, if it weren't for the whole "no nuclear reactors allowed" bullshit.
>>106796803ping would be ferocious
>>106796803The Amazon and Musk are in the lead for ASI as the others don't have Space Tech
>>106799158what a retarded chart
>>106805939Have you been in a coma for a few decades? That was a problem when there was one satellite uplink per continent, and the "routers" on the satellites ran on a rad-hardened 6502.Here in the 21st century, every satellite can forward gigapackets per second to whoever's in line-of-sight, and a third of "luxury camper" types have a Starlink strapped to the top of their hybrid 4WDs.
>>106796982What is a radiator supposed to do in space?
>>106796919space is cold, right?
>>106798986>spacex accidentally crashes starship into amazon orbital data centre in testing mishap I think you might be onto something
>>106798988Even more remote than space. The ISS is only 300km up.
>>106799031They use winxp on the ISS
>>106796803heat -> it's x10 times easier to cool computers in air and x100 times easier with access to ocean/sea/riverradiation -> will corrupt your memory,data,calculations unless you use radiation-resistant chipsets\processors\code which is FAR slowerit makes no sense for data processing,storage,retrival or any kind of large scale data center for that matter to be put outside earth's surface. an even better idea is putting them underground or in/under water which has cooling advantages.
>>106806062This is like getting onto the L-train with your laptop, and saying "they use Windows 11 on the L-train".Of course the actual C&C computers don't run XP. They run some custom RTOS.
>>106796803The radiation fucks up the electronics. Good luck cooling your components in vacuum. Maintenance will be a nightmare. How are you going to move data? The ping/packet loss will be awful over satellite. As per usual the billionaires are retarded and no one should take them seriously.
why not just put data centers in the ocean?
>>106806228china literally has these and ameritards are still living in their cold war fantasy land
>>106796803>>106796931space is cold but its also a complete vacuum there is agent to push the induction out of system the cooling system for such datacenters will be HUGE especially if they made them with intel
>>106796919The same way you cool nuclear reactors in space maybe?I mean silicon handles much higher heat than humans and the hotter it is the more efficient the cooling cuz of the difference between space and the cooling system, right?
>>106796931Space is HOT! Really HOT. Satelites and the international space station are in the thermosphere which gets over 3600°F. By contrast, the melting point of steel is 2800°F. So if you want anything to survive up there without instantly vaporizing, you're gonna need an advanced space-age cooling system.
>>106796803>Qsfp cable fails>Need to spend $100k to send someone up to change the cable
>>106796931Interstellar space is coldSpace that's on the doorstep of the sun is really hot
>>106796931Space isn't anything. It's vacuum, it doesn't have heat. Things in space collect heat from various sources, if you're relatively close to the sun you'll pick up more heat from it compared to being relatively far away.
>>106796803You will live in constant shaded twilight and consume AI tiktok reels generated by your orbital dyson sphere demigods, earth creatures.
.....who would be the one to need to change something? Are we talking just sending a server chassis into our stratosphere and watching it spin around orbiting our planet? I could see bezos being a turobotard thinking space is closer than it is.
>>106796803Put it in the moon
>>106796803latency, maintenance, upgrades, coolingit's almost as dumb as sinking one in water
