[a / b / c / d / e / f / g / gif / h / hr / k / m / o / p / r / s / t / u / v / vg / vm / vmg / vr / vrpg / vst / w / wg] [i / ic] [r9k / s4s / vip] [cm / hm / lgbt / y] [3 / aco / adv / an / bant / biz / cgl / ck / co / diy / fa / fit / gd / hc / his / int / jp / lit / mlp / mu / n / news / out / po / pol / pw / qst / sci / soc / sp / tg / toy / trv / tv / vp / vt / wsg / wsr / x / xs] [Settings] [Search] [Mobile] [Home]
Board
Settings Mobile Home
/g/ - Technology

Name
Options
Comment
Verification
4chan Pass users can bypass this verification. [Learn More] [Login]
File
  • Please read the Rules and FAQ before posting.
  • You may highlight syntax and preserve whitespace by using [code] tags.

08/21/20New boards added: /vrpg/, /vmg/, /vst/ and /vm/
05/04/17New trial board added: /bant/ - International/Random
10/04/16New board for 4chan Pass users: /vip/ - Very Important Posts
[Hide] [Show All]


🎉 Happy Birthday 4chan! 🎉


[Advertise on 4chan]


File: 1759646625258203.jpg (1.23 MB, 4624x3472)
1.23 MB
1.23 MB JPG
>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped
Guide: https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision (Compact), Antec C8

>CPU
Budget (inc. gaming): 7500F, 7600/X, 9600/X
Gaming: 9800X3D, 7800X3D, 9700X
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
Premium: 9950X3D
Intel: If deeply discounted (265K for value & reliability, 12600KF budget, 14600K midrange)

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3, NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-6, Duronaut, PTM7950 (phase change)

>MOTHERBOARD
Avoid ASRock AM5 boards, CPU degradation issues still reported.

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580 (for new builds), used card
Midrange: 9060 XT 16GB, 5060 TI 16GB
High-end 1440p & Midrange 4K: 9070 XT, 5070 Ti
Workstation: 5090, used 4090 or 3090 Ti

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: KTC H24T09P, ASUS XG259CS
1440p: KTC H27T22, Gigabyte M27QA, ASUS XG27ACS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), Gigabyte MO27Q28G (G4 WOLED)
4K: Gigabyte M27UA/M27UP, KTC M27P6 (miniLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

Prev: >>106797587
>>
>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch. 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.

>Omissions
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.

Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. 1.4V or 1.45V CPU VR voltage limit recommended.

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/
>>
>>106802046
Recycle
>>106801925 #
Thing is I feel like my processor is a more important future-proofing item than the GPU and I don't want to push this thing to 1500 bucks as someone who doesn't really play new gen games all that often and likes strategy and other CPU intensive games. I'd rather pop a 7800x3D in there before a newer GPU.
>>106802007 #
Dat 12GB do
>>106802013 #
Let me guess, 0.1% increase in global 8cores?
>>
>>106802098
>as someone who doesn't really play new gen games all that often and likes strategy and other CPU intensive games
X3D is fine for that use case.
>>
Do you guys think the 5600 will fall from 100 euros to ~60? I don't need it right now but I'm afraid of it stopping being sold and I want to hold until AM6 if possible.
>>
>>106802267
shut the fuck up
>>
>>106802269
you are a disgrace of a human being
>>
I love chiplet gpus
you guys love chiplet cpus right?
you will love chiplet gpus
>>
File: MW2_1440p_o.png (510 KB, 1338x1272)
510 KB
510 KB PNG
>>106802290
When devs actually optimize for chiplets
>>
>>106802304
The 7900xtx and xt are chiplet.
>>
>>106802267
Nothing is sure but you can still buy 2600 or 3600.
5600 might follow the pastern, AMD is still releasing "new" AM4 CPUs to this day.
>>
>>106802318
yes but sadly very few devs optimize for chiplets. 9800x3d should be doing better than it is now but threads are idling.
>>
>>106802336
Could also be an AMD driver issue too.
>>
>>106802344
threads and CUs are sitting idle in vulkan. it cant be driver issue because vulkan is all commands handled by the dev.
>>
>>106802353
No no. There is still a translation layer in the driver. The GPU runs machine code, not Vulkan.
>>
If my case 3.5mm port is hissing is it more likely to be the port or the psu? Don't have spare case/psu to test
>>
File: fakenews.png (939 KB, 1031x576)
939 KB
939 KB PNG
EZ (new) gpu buying guide :
9060xt 8gb > 5050/5060/5060ti 8gb
5060 ti 16 > 9060xt 16gb
5070 > 9070
5070ti > 9070xt
5080, 5090 > lol
>>
File: 1616434287041.jpg (104 KB, 838x1024)
104 KB
104 KB JPG
Does anyone know if there is any significant difference in the binning of the 96GB (2x48GB) kits out there?
Not sure if I should get a generic 6000 Mhz kit or something better....
>>
>>106802416
Try using the audio port in the back of your motherboard. Maybe turning on spread spectrum in your bios could help if you disabled it.
>>
>>106802428
The back port is fine, still want the case port to work though
>>
>asking reddit any pc problem
>make sure your case has good air flow
>look at the qvl on your motherboards
>try RMA it

Why are they so useless?
>>
>>106802440
The cable for audio probably has poor shielding. It might help if you route it along the back of your case if it is just in the open area where the motherboard and electronics are. It could also just be your motherboard itself.

I've always had a usb dac/amp so i've never had to deal with problems like you are describing.
>>
Bros I need a pcie to sata card just for hdd storage. Is it ok to trust the 30$ chink brands on amazon?
>>
>>106802463
Why are you so angry kind sir?
Upvotes to the left
>>
>>106802357
>There is still a translation layer in the driver. The GPU runs machine code, not Vulkan.
?????????????????????????????????
there's no translation layer on windows. its using proprietary windows compiler which is based on llvm (every gpu understands this).

same case on windows and linux either way using different drivers. CPU threads and GPU CUs are sitting idle...because vulkan is all commands handled by the dev. dev should be keeping gpu and cpu always busy (to a certain point). I'm not talking about 100% usage but better than 60% usage.
>>
>>106802046
Supers won't arrive before July 2026. What you gonna do the next half of eternity?
>>
Wouldn't it be cool if everything on Windows used AVX512 stuff? So everyone with new computers actually get faster instead of slower.
>>
>>106802527
getting a job so I can afford them
>>
File: confused anime girl.jpg (57 KB, 735x703)
57 KB
57 KB JPG
Hey so, I have a wifi 6 OpenWRT router and it works just fine but my home is a little too big for it, so I was either thinking of getting a wifi extender or another router so I can increase my 5 ghz range downstairs, I can connect it either via an Ethernet cable or just wifi, and I'm looking to spend about $50, maximum $100 on this purchase. Do you guys have any recommendations?
>>
>>106802527
so are we going to get the rtx 6000 series next year or just this weak ass super update?
>>
For GPU, What is the most worthwhile, a 4080 super or a 5080?
>>
>>106802665
Well how much does the 4080 super cost? 5080 is msrp right?
>>
File: 1733923074229361.png (125 KB, 869x529)
125 KB
125 KB PNG
Thoughts on this as an alternative to the artic 3 freezer?
>>
>all my friends say to buy parts at microcenter because of muh bundles and muh savings
>add up all the parts I can get on Amazon/newegg vs Microcenter website
>total savings: $20
>it would be more expensive in gas in my 35mpg econo-shitbox to drive the 2 hours to microcenter than to just order the parts on amazon
Why do people love this dump so much?
>>
>>106802665
whichever is cheaper
>>
9800 <====x3:D
sounds like fun
>>
When is Intel gonna insert some
<====x3:D
>>
>>106802732
Microcenter has really good deals on GPUs but that's it. You can get everything else cheaper from Newegg or Amazon. Hard to get a new RTX 5080 for $800 online compared to Microcenter.
>>
Give it to me straight, is the 9800x3d really that much of a boost compared to the 7800x3d? I can't decide if it's worth it. Whatever I get I'm going to be stuck with for at least 5 years. Will the 78 last that long?
>>
for me? its the 5700x3d
>>
>>106802870
Depends how much extra do you have to pay for 9800X3D.
7800X3D tray/OEM are very cheap right now so paying 50% extra to get 5-15% more performance is questionable.
>>
File: 1740880049986069.png (13 KB, 960x119)
13 KB
13 KB PNG
>>106802915
Difference is about a hundred dollars.
>>
>>106802926
So 33% more money for 5-15% more performance.
Whatever it is worth it, it's up to you.
But can you put the money into other parts to make a bigger difference?
Also remember to avoid AsRock motherboards with 9800X3D.
>>
File: minimum-fps-1920-1080.png (119 KB, 560x2050)
119 KB
119 KB PNG
>>106802870
>Give it to me straight, is the 9800x3d really that much of a boost compared to the 7800x3d?
No.
>Whatever I get I'm going to be stuck with for at least 5 years. Will the 78 last that long?
Yes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0oimg79NZ8

>>106802926
Does picrel scream $100 extra performance to you?
Also you can pickup a used 7800X3D on Ebay for ~$300 easy as whales dump them for 9800X3D to make their E-Penis larger:
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=7800x3d&_sacat=0&_sop=15&rt=nc&LH_BIN=1
>>
>>106802570
RTX 6000 is more likely to be released in Q1 '27, it's now a 2-year cadence for GeForce GPUs.
>>
>>106802569
Run a Ethernet cable to where you want it (through the wall downstairs) and set up an access point with another router, You can find cheep used ones that would work for you. (check thrift stores, marketplace, etc..)
>>
>>106802046
Is Asrock B850 pro-A wifi a good motherboard for Ryzen 5 9600x?
>>
File: 1757949307208966.jpg (34 KB, 615x462)
34 KB
34 KB JPG
How long does RAM training actually take? Starting to worry a little
>>
>>106802966
Are 20 fps worth it jumping from a 7600x to a 7800x3d or 9800x3d?
>>
>>106803059
More RAM, longer training.
Higher the RAM overclock, longer training.
Older the UEFI version, longer training.
It can take up to 5 minutes from my experience.
>>
>>106802419

If you can't afford a 16gb 5060 ti/9060 XT, just get an arc b580 (now that they are finally available). You'll get better performance and 1080p overhead than the 8 gb cards from either team red or green.

There is exactly one reason I can see to get a 5060 or 5050 8 gb. You're getting the SFF one from zotac and your plan is to put that GPU into a case the size of a calculator. If that's your plan, get the 8 gb card. If not, just get the arc or save up for either the 5060 ti 16gb or the 9060 XT 16 gb.
>>
>>106802569
that will be a hard roam. You need a controller based solution and I'm not aware of one for schizos right now.
>>
What's the difference between w11 normal and pro? Does pro offer anything worth getting?
>>
>>106803059
5 seconds on DDR4
5 minutes on DDR5
which means, logically, it will take 5 hours on DDR6
>>
>>106803059
no more than 2-3 minutes with 32gb of ram. if its longer than that reboot.
>>
>>106803047
No. ASRock is having problems where they are burning 9000 series AMD CPUs. If you already have the 9600x, get an Asus or an MSI or something. If you're buying both, you could get the ASRock and a 7600x (instead of the 9600x) and you'll get basically the same performance with almost none of the failure risk.
>>
>>106803059
if your mobo has a postcode screen or those qled functions it acts a progress meter. refer to your manual.
>>
>>106803094
> What's the difference between w11 normal and pro?

They offer you slightly more customization options while they steal all of your data to train their AI models. If you're really lucky they might use a bit more lube before the repeatedly rape you.
>>
>>106803065
Not if you can buy a better GPU with the money you'd be spending first.
>>
>>106802730
it's probably fine, I would look at
>fan quality
>if the shape of the heat spreader is good for your type of cpu
I think the arctic works well on am4/am5 cpus while most brand have have the concave heat spreader that is better for intel cpus
>>
>>106803094
do not use home edition its infested with ads
pro has group policy and other admin functions that are locked from nromies
the best windows is ltsc because it has no bloat and all the features of pro + longer support update ranges
>>
>>106803094
Here's a breakdown by edition:
Windows 11 Home: Up to 128 GB of RAM.
Windows 11 Pro & Education: Up to 2 TB of RAM.
Windows 11 Pro for Workstations: Up to 6 TB of RAM.
>>
>>106803106
Dang, I guess I have to just settle with the7500f then. Thanks for the advice.
>>
>>106803059
It is code 15 on the led read out on the motherboard.
if you bought a poverty motherboard without a read out then you will have to look for the cpu error or ram error light to come on if it fails training.
>>
I want a black MSI motherboard. Tomahawk seems like the best premium version but there are so many of them. The Gaming version is much cheaper but I'm not sure about the difference in quality. How do I decide which one to go with? I'm going to be getting a 9800x3d and a 5070ti with 2 m.2 ssd's. Nothing much more fancy than that no streaming or AI stuff.
>>
File: 20250720_221541.jpg (1.61 MB, 1440x1920)
1.61 MB
1.61 MB JPG
I had a motherboard, 13700K, PSU, and ram laying around. The i7 is toast, so I used the rest of the parts for a mid-range build.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4M3mwY

Cinebench R23 scored 22,500. I saw a couple flags that current limits were exceeded, so I raised the short and long term power from 181w to 200w. Score jumped to 24,700.
>>
>>106803350
nice computer looks ready for gaming
>>
>>106803358
Thanks. Pretty satisfied with it. I'm probably gonna sell it. It's rock solid at 1440p and will do 4K if you feel like turning FSR on.
>>
I think 32gb ram will be enough for me. But if it isn't I'm kind of screwed since I can't just add more since more than 2 sticks is bad. So maybe I should just pay double and get the 64gb for future proofing?
>>
best way to remove Liquid metal?
>>
>>106803372
48gb is an option now. Split the difference.
>>
Seeing a new anti oled shill claiming it ruins or sleep and over stimulates your brain and eyes and maybe even turns you gay. Any truth to the fearmongering? I'm so sick of trying to find a new screen. I've spent more time looking at monitors and tvs than all the rest of the build combined.
>>
File: 1758243862938d.png (74 KB, 1024x1024)
74 KB
74 KB PNG
>>106803350
>Cinebench R23 scored 22,500
Now totally uncap the power limit, SLAM the voltage to the max after microcode, and oc until you're nearly matching the 13700k
Protip : It's going to throttle until you delid and hit almost 300w
>>
Team AMD > Team Poovidia
>>
File: 1759705608524619.jpg (202 KB, 851x800)
202 KB
202 KB JPG
>>106803454
shut up
>>
>>106803447
Hahahahahaha... that's terrific.
Naw, I'm good.
>>
>>106803375
99% alcohol
>>
File: fer.png (600 KB, 800x533)
600 KB
600 KB PNG
>>106803469
>>
>>106803442
It's all about what you're using it for. Cost aside, the only downside of an OLED is that it WILL burn-in. Sooner or later it will happen. But, you'll get really deep blacks. If that matters.

Productivity, screw OLEDS.
Gaming? sure. Just make sure it has awesome refresh rates.
>>
>>106803552
If you just bought a va and fired up the Nutty Professor you would perceive it as having really deep blacks too though as long as you didn't have an oled screen on next to it.
>>
>>106803059
It should never be more than a few minutes with defaults. If it is taking too long and the lights aren't changing, reboot because its clearly stalled for some reason or another. Make sure everything is connected right, try flashing BIOS to the latest version if nothing seems to be moving forward on multiple retries.
>>
>>106803316
If you're spending that much money on components then Tomahawk it is.
>>
>>106802518
this is cope for RDNA3 just being shit
>>
File: 1759028415332319.jpg (53 KB, 500x442)
53 KB
53 KB JPG
>spend 4 grand on super pc
>90% of the time I'm just watching youtube/anime or playing some game from 10 years ago
Think I'm starting to understand how this cat feels.
>>
File: BattleStation3.jpg (1.93 MB, 1920x1440)
1.93 MB
1.93 MB JPG
>>106803690
Did you build it? If so, that's half the fun. For me, more than half the fun.

My name is Leto and I have a tech addiction.
>>
>>106803705
Cute keyboard companions..
>>
>>106803705
At least your setup gives off exclusively heterosexual type vibes
>>
I got one of those huge mouspads. Will I win money in Aimlabs?
>>
>>106803705
What screens are those?
>>
>>106802046
Why are all the fans facing the same direction?
>>
>>106803736
Thanks. I take a lot of wild fox pictures. I get flooded with anything fox-related on Christmas.
>>106803741
Yeah, no programming socks here.
>>
>>106803787
The left is a 40" 5k2k Dell Ultrawide 120hz, the right is a 43" Gigabyte 4K 144hz
>>
>>106803788
They're not. Reverse fans are a thing. Bottom and back are intake, top and left are exhaust.
>>
>>106803684
this is cope for Nvidia drivers just being shit
>>
>>106803874
5090 nigger rapes AMPoor dogshit
>>
>>106802870
Do you want the CHAD gaming processor or the bisexual gaming processor? Choose wisely.
>>
why is AMD nigger feces for indian subhumans an animals so slow for retarded poor indian animals that should be shot in the head and thrown in a ditch?
>>
>>106803886
>>106803913
Doesn't mean shit when Nvidia drivers black screen
>>
I'm still waiting for Arctic to sell their reverse fans as standalones. Their new case has them, so what's the holdup? I want some stronger case intakes than my current el-cheapos but I refuse to "downgrade" to wrong sided fans or buy ridiculously overpriced ones (which are all of them except the ones I have).
>>
I'm paying some guy 50 bucks to build my PC using the parts that I've already bought. I can't be bothered with the cable management.
>>
>>106803949
That is a lot of money to ask someone to ziptie / wire tie some cables and stuff the excess into the PSU shroud / dual chamber backroom.
>>
>>106803961
He'll also be installing windows, drivers and updating BIOS or whatever.
>>
>>106803946
made up transgender cope
>>
>>106803949
He will steal some parts and replace it with cheap shit.
>>
any insight on usb devices disconnecting on am5 + msi mobos? I upgraded without doing research and am now (rarely) encountering this problem. Dont really know how to replicate it but i've had my controller dongle disconnect and reconnect while gaming, as well as an external harddrive.
>>
would you guys reccomend testing all the components outside the case?
It's my first time building and I dont want to fuck anything up
on that note, once the pc is built, is it ok to put it on its side while i add another nvme?
i dont want windows to shit the bed while its installing because I had multiple drives connected but I dont like the idea of taking the gpu out/reinstalling it when the case is upright, shit feels like it could slip and crack the pcb
im using a dual tower air cooler for the build if that's relevant
>>
>>106804324
testing before putting it in the case is more work guaranteed up front
versus assembling first and only having to do more work on the small chance that some part is DOA
you should put it on the side for installing stuff
>>
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Zgt9kf is this the end for this build? do i just run it until it dies without putting a dime more in? disregarding the shitty storage of course ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) gaming and daily driver
>>
>>106804464
could do a gpu upgrade if you felt limited by that but otherwise yeah ride it out
>>
File: 1759699690245585.jpg (84 KB, 750x1334)
84 KB
84 KB JPG
Anon, you don't just buy parts online and put them together like a lego set right? You actually design and build your own customized and transformative hardware, don't you?
You're not just a mindless consoomer that buys and argues about the newest tech slop releases, are you?
>>
>>106804563
still masturbating to a 10 year old article about a black kid eh
>>
>>106804464
AM4 X3D class 800 is fine for a few more years. Zen 3 really was good. Get a new GPU that is x16 and it can work for a while longer, your board is PCIe 4.0 so it'll be fine. Weigh that against your desire to throw it out for shiny new AM5 right now.
>>
>>106803350
It's crazy what those mitigations did to raptorlake multi core performance. The security mitigations of past generations pale in comparison to what we see here...
That i5 is performing about the same as an 8-core 9800x3d while using 30-50W more power
>>
>>106803375
Paper towel to remove the bulk of them then Q-tips for those trapped in small corners
>>
>>106804321
Get a new motherboard unironically
I haven't had any usb disconnection issues on am5 on assrock
>>
File: 1743582651088728.png (180 KB, 298x265)
180 KB
180 KB PNG
I know this is not directly PC Gaming Related but can i have some recomendations for electric/rechargable air blowers that also can function as a vacuum cleaner?
I recently had to clean my keyboard and entire PC case and i didnt realize how fucking long it took me to clean everything after 6 months of no maintenance, a lot of dirt shit got in even with dust filters.

There's so many air blowers on aliexpress and lots of RPM that im starting to believe is just false marketing and i dont know which one is truly good. ofc one that has strong blows and sucking power is best but i honestly have no clue.

Budget is $30-40 and preferably aliexpress.
>>
>>106804464
Honestly the X3D is not worth it currently, they've stopped producing them so the price has jumped super high to the point you're better off going AM5 or settle for non X3Ds
>>
>>106804818
that's already my build desu
>>
>>106804464
It ain't done until you have 2x16gb 3733 cl14-14-14-34 ram
>>
>>106804275
Well the nigga that I hired is black
>>
im contemplating wheter or not to airflowmaxx
currently running 2x140mm intakes, a 120mm and 360mm aio as exhaust
I run a 9600x that idles around 40c and doesnt reall go above 70-75
i was thinking about adding 2 more 140mm on the front side of the case and maybe 2 more 120mm under the gpu
i know my thermals arent really gonna have a lot of benefit, but maybe i can dick around in the fan curves a bit more to get the whole thing a bit quieter



[Advertise on 4chan]

Delete Post: [File Only] Style:
[Disable Mobile View / Use Desktop Site]

[Enable Mobile View / Use Mobile Site]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.