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Those born in 2000-2004 got the perfect mix of old and modern technology. It's the greatest generation of all time.
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>>106804820
wrong, 80 to 85. Every generation after baby genx and old millennials are shite and should kts
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>>106804845
>80 to 85
This.
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There is nothing ”old” about anything released after 1999
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>>106804820
>can't imagine life before smartphones
>can't imagine life before social media
>never experienced the internet when it was good
>never experienced society and culture when it was optimistic and forward-looking
>incapable of reading a book
>formative years fucked up by covid
zoomers are to be pitied (and shunned)
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>>106804845
/fpbp
/thread
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>>106804917
The greatest line of personal computers to ever exist
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>>106804820
If you were born post-9/11 you think old technology is 4:3 lcd's and i5-2500k's and iPhone 4's
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>>106804976
Also mind-blowing that they rendered Sea Quest with Lightwave on it.
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>>106804845
83 reporting in
Truly the blessed generation of tech. Zoomers will never experience computers actually doubling in performance every 9 months
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>>106804917
based but I was an atari st chad
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>>106805010
back then I was doing 3dstudio in DOS but I was drooling over the lens flares in lightwave
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>>106804905
everything went to shit after 1999-12-31
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>>106805255
no desu everything went to shit when the iphone was released
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>>106804820
bros we have 2004s on this site now
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I guess zoomers got to play the elder slops shitrim when they were 10 or something
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>>106805285
There could be 2007's on here.
which I don't understand, 1996 was only ten years ago
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>>106804845
Old millennials got to play pacman at the arcades I guess, while I played starcraft, doom and quake
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>>106804820
>Elon Musk silky smooth lb legs
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Ok but I recently graduated into the worst job market in a long time, so no we're the worst genetation actually
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>>106804820
Get the fuck out of here, kid.
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>>106805459
>k but I recently graduated into the worst job market in a long time, so no we're the worst genetation actually
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>>106804820
>born 2005
what does that make me
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>>106805136
80s reporting in
Tech used to be the promised land, optimist, balanced with real life.
Now its a dystopia every day of accounts for just about everything, captchas, adverts, corpo spyware/AIware.so much that it ends being a hinderance to life rather than a helpful non intrusive thing (like it used to be)
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>>106805901
1980 here. I get what you mean but I think OS abstraction was really gaining massive ground in the early 90s. I remember being disappointed at how awkward coding on win95 was and how I could no longer use my godtier asm demo coding tricks that worked in dos
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>>106804845
this. t. 2000-2004. you guys got the wild west, we got to watch it get paved over with slop before we got our drivers licenses.
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>>106804911
Remember when you would go down to the mall to chill with your friends,without a phone in the way?
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>2000-2004
Anything that doesn't ship by default with a programming environment is modern technology built for the clueless..
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I often watch japanese irl streams of guys walking in Hard Offs and the like and I can clearly tell asia still has some understanding and respect for older tech as you can easily tell by their preference for physical copies of stuff.
The West has lost all its knowledge of tech since the first iphone id say.
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>>106805956
This is something that baffles me... my first machine (cpc464) first screen was a basic prompt. And now you have to download massive SDKs or get python to get anything done
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>>106804820
Is that a tomboy?
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>>106806639
No that is called a shota. It is a boy meant for sex.
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>>106804820
You really didn't. 20 years earlier and you would have had far, far more amazing experiences. It's quite sad that you don't even know what you missed.
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>>106807062
This.
The 80s and 90s were better. My first PC was an Atari 800XL that I got in about 1987. It was already outdated but it bit me hard. Next was a top of the line 486 PC and the internet. It’s been a lifelong love affair ever since!
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This whole thread is gay.
>duhhh the best decade to be born in is the decade i was born in
You are all faggots
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>>106807140
They really are
If they want that feel there's plenty of tech and ui larping as it. While the tech looked better i.e more imaginative presentation of hardware the software was limiting and I would never go back to dial up.
We're in the now vote with your wallet and be the change you want to be
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>>106804820
>west
>kid puts his shoes on the mousepad, filthy, careless, >:O
>japan
>kids take shoes off before putting feet on mousepad, hygenic, respectful, =D
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>>106804845
Seething oldcuck.
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>>106805854
a nigger
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>>106804845
>80 to 85
The peak redditcore generation
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Pre 2000, you can remember 2 millenniums too, that something a zoomer or after zoomer will never be able to do.
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>>106805285
>now
Judging by the jaks invasions they have been here for YEARS by now.
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>>106804820
>Those born in 2000-2004 got the perfect mix of old and modern technology
These had never experienced internet in it's best days.
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>>106805892
Everything in this post so fucking much.
Technology was exciting and amazing. Now when a new tech trend arrives, I watch in fear wondering how are they going to make our lives worse this time.

>>106805136
also this
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I give zoomies, one thing.

As a Millennial I paid like 5 times as much for the components of a shitty diy parallel port AVR programmer than what an Arduino clone costs on Ali.
It's pretty nice how cheap this stuff is these days and you're not stuck with your local overpriced electronic stores.
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>>106805357
>starcraft, doom and quake
We played the heck of all of those. And best, we lived the build-up and hype of the technology arriving at that point.
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>>106807791
>techslop got cheap
>food got expensive
>can't afford buying a house in your lifetime anymore
Yeah thanks, I could take a huge dump on the cheap tech if doing this brought back reasonable cost of living.
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>>106807809
food is for fat people
electronic components provide real nourishment
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>>106807791
that shit only got cheap because greedy fucks moved literally all production to china. if china decided to not sell you cheap shit anymore you're massively fucked.
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>>106807822
They already did that before but I still had to rely on heavily marked up locally resold Chinese components instead of just ordering it from the source cheap and easily.
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>>106804820
wrong, we got the end of everything good, a bit too young for winXP, the death internet, lgbbq shit everywhere, basicaly lived our entire life in financial crisis (started in 2008 and still going), smartphones and social media.
the only really good things about this generation is that every genre of music/games/movies are easily aviable since they've been out for years
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>>106807785
>Now when a new tech trend arrives, I watch in fear wondering how are they going to make our lives worse this time.
This. Technology became a shitty brown race for (((shareholder))) profit. FUCK technology.
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How is 2000-2004 good at all? by the time they are 10 years old and still in elementary school mobile phones are the norm.
They probably barely touched a computer
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Girlfriends were better in the 80s and 90s. The last girlfriend I had was in 1999, my senior year of high school. Not a single one of them had tattoos or piercings other than their ears.

Yes, my love life peaked 26 years ago. But the memories remain.
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>>106805285
There were already 2005s on this site by 2016. You'd be surprised

>>106807785
>>106808255
If Indians can thrive there, it's become dirty and rotten.
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>>106808298
there's still a good chunk of kids who learned to use a computer through video game piracy and modding. So not entirely helpless, they know how to find and follow instructions
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>>106808876
>they know how to find and follow instructions
actually something difficult to do in nowadays internet...
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>>106804820
This kid was definitely born in the 80s.
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>>106807875
>the only really good things about this generation is that every genre of music/games/movies are easily aviable since they've been out for years
I guess by that you mean that any media worth consooming is from at least a decade ago
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>>106804820
not witnessing the growth of 3D
not witnessing the impact of ssd's
not witnessing the +100% overclocking you could do.
not witnessing the superiority of crts
not having a childhood without internet or mobile phones.

>greatest generation
you never had a chance.
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>>106809436
no, i meant the availability.
there is new things comming out which are good, but most genres are old shit from the after the 50's
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>>106804820
Hardly, by the time they were old enough to actually understand anything happening around them we were already in the full on slop for normalfags era in the 2010s. I was born in 1990 and even people my age missed out on a bunch of unique stages during the 90s and the 80s.
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It wasn't that great honestly. The only really cool thing was seeing the internet take off. But then it twisted into the depressing thing we have today
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Why dont PCs come with real ports anymore? Make relays click without any bloatware.

A simple circuit you could make on a breadboard yourself.
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I thought everyone on /g/ was born in 1993
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>>106804820
>Those born in 2000-2004 got the perfect mix of old and modern technology.
2003 here, I barely got to enjoy any of it once I got around to 2014/2015. I really wish I wasn't stuck with a Windows 8/10 machine or that I bought a proper mechanical keyboard earlier, or that I took all those free CRT's and thinkpads that were piling up from schools.
>>106804911
I experienced all of these things though, I didn't get a smartphone until like 2017.
>formative years fucked up by covid
This still happened though.
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>>106804845
>>106805357
86 and i missed a lot of that but i did enjoy the early 00s internet when i was 13.
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>born 1994
>always felt like the young kid on the internet
>suddenly am now a 31 year old fart

it will happen to you too. anyways like everyone else coping, I am happy with the technology I grew up with. I had a desktop computer from an early age and really enjoyed playing all the games I did in that 2003-2013 era. I also liked how phones made it convenient to talk and text in middle/high school but was still primitive in a sense and not all-consuming like it is now
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>>106804820
>old
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>>106806994
I agree!! He deserves some mommy or onee-san.
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>>106804820
I disagree. I was born in 2002 and I've always felt like I'm living in the dying echoes of something greater. It started when I learned of the NES and the Game Boy Advance as a kid and I was sad to learn that you couldn't buy those in stores anymore.
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>you started with DOS 386 PC before moving to Windows and missed out on the Atari/Commodore/Amiga meme era
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>>106804820
You will never be a kid opening a brand new Nintendo 64 on Christmas day
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I like most of the tech in my era, but I would have liked to grow up with a personal AI assistant too. Not worth the other tradeoffs, but that individually I do kind of envy.
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>>106804820
>Those born in 2000-2004
missed the best digital content and having not known older tech, they can't appreciate and understand newer tech.
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>>106804845
>80 to 85
did you know them
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>>106809511
>not witnessing the growth of 3D
this
Disnay Pixar movies, Ice Age, etc.. were magical back then
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*Disney
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>>106808946
Yeah, and half of it is in video format, which is terrible to search for.
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>>106805285
2004 here, been on this site since 2012
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>>106808820
Tbf some had tatoos but they werent plastered in tattoos. It was usually a tiny one in a non obvious place. Usually something with actual meaning to it.
Now they are oftened covered in random tattoos just...because.
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>>106804845
correct. Got to see NES --> 32/64 bit console era as kid
DOS to Windows
2d to 3d
if you were born in 2000 you have no reference point, and your childhood sucked because you didn't get Super Mario 3 in elementary school
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>>106806092
Urgh not debug.. back then my jam (post basic era) was turbo Pascal
What I was saying is that the way to get to any progeamming language is not directly obvious in modern machines back then it was the first thing you saw
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>>106815442
Don't forget games.
Seeing Super Mario 64 being revealed for the first time is literally the most impressive technology related thing I've seen in my whole life.
I thought it was some studio trick by the TV station back then.

How could you even control a character in a 3D space? And you could have this at HOME? Holy shit!!

I'm still waiting for a new piece of technology to amaze me as much as this did. I think good VR comes very close.
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>>106805357
you dummy if you were born in 83 DOOM was like when you were in 5th grade.
Junior high school... duke 3d with tits and cuss words while poor kids played sonic and knuckles
REAL pc master race shit, they used to play PC ports in my good years
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>>106815557
yeah i remember Mario 64 like 9/11
mine was at a blockbuster video demo setup
had this argument on /vr/ before but Mario 64 blew my mind way harder than Quake (probably because the swooping camera angles and 3rd person view, had already played wolfenstein, doom, duke3d)
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>>106815518
I have been on this site forever because despite 75% being shitposts it still somehow has the base spirit of the internet
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>>106815560
86 here.
I remember playing Doom and Duke Nukem 3D when I definitely shouldn't be.

>>106815572
>blew my mind way harder than Quake
Yeah same here. I think it was the sheer scale of the worlds. And the absurd freedom of movement.
You could freaking fly in the worlds! Swim, swing, slide, etc. The game went all out on 3D. On Quake you were running around corridors.

>>106815578
Yeah, I think this is why I come here too. Still feels a bit like the old internet.
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>>106804820
>2004
I know when you were born
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>>106804911
The girls were slightly more friendly. Everything else kind of sucked.
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>born late 80's
Nearly everything has changed, but here are some I notice all the time: Got that sweet 80's 90's broadcast television shared campfire cultural experience. Magazine subscriptions, libraries. I was surfing the web in the early 90's on dialup where you can't use the phone while online, where it took minute to download an image, and videos were basically nonexistent. The television set was video. Bought everything we needed in stores. People talked or read magaizines while waiting.

Saw the changes from
-mom n pop shops -> walmart -> The Jungle
-slow dialup -> fast cable internet
-Game Boy -> "smart phone"
-telephone -> "smart phone"
-remember phone numbers or have address books -> "smart phone"
-desktop -> laptop -> "smart phone"
-PDA -> "smart phone"
-cell phones -> "smart phones"
-film camera -> digital camera - > "smart phone"
-flashlight -> "smart phone"
-calculator -> "smart phone"
-AIM, Yahoo instant messaging -> "text messaging"
-program -> "app"
-microtransactions
-computer as a multitool -> The Browser
-search with yahoo, dogpile, etc -> Monopolization of Google
-countless message boards and fansites -> homogenized reddits
-thoughful blogs and homepages -> "tweet" chains
-television -> streaming tubes and nutflicks
-nice CRTs -> terrible flatscreens
-good speakers -> tiny tinny crappy speakers
-vhs -> hd-dvd
-reruns -> "binge watching"
-wait every Friday for the newest episode -> all episodes release on a single day
-seasons are like 50+ eps -> "seasons" are 10 episodes
-Sega -> micro$oft
-mom n pop, big box stores -> Gamestopo -> death of the industry
-sold out vidya day 1 -> pre order -> pre order bonuses -> death of the industry
-AAA vidya industry -> independent developers
-physical video games -> microsoft creates an entire system around digital but people whine so they switch back to physical -> a few years later, digital is standard
-RC -> "drone"
-toaster oven -> "air fryer"
-bots -> "AI"
-commercials -> "ads"
-catalogues -> The Jungle
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>>106805136
>Zoomers will never experience computers actually doubling in performance every 9 months
millenials being so used to resources increasing exponentially over time is unironically probably why we have shit like electron
you uncs got too comfy frfr
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>>106805222
me too but i wasn't in a city so there was no one else around who knew what to do. besides some random cracked games from a market in city once or twice a year, i was clueless.
386 was when i figured things out.
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>>106805854
A fag.
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>>106804820
boomercucks and millenialsissies seething ITT
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please /g/ have some class consciousness

boomer/genx/millenial/genz etc are all distractions

there is only extreme rich and the poor

don't be cattle, don't let them divide us brother, we can kill them and share the oats
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>>106804845
holy unc
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>>106804820
2003, i don't feel this way. desktops were all intel/amd x86 machines. microsoft and apple had already won. xbox360 was fun, but really opened the floodgates for normies getting into gaming. then smartphones ruined everything by giving the double digit IQ masses access to the internet

software wise, things were a bit better but your only operating systems were still windows/unix-likes. games wise the greatest era was definitely 93-2010. we had some amazing games like minecraft but they are few and far between. it would have been great to play truly groundbreaking games like doom or ultima online when they came out, for example.

i would rather have been born in the 70s like my parents. good mix of an interesting real life where normies aren't living on their phones and getting to experience real innovation in technology.
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>>106818437
I will happily side with the extreme rich to see zoomers die in ditches
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>>106820113
>I will happily side with the extreme rich
this is why you fail
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>>106807819
>food is for fat people
>electronic components provide real nourishment
I can count your ribs through the screen. Feed yourself retard.
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>>106804845
true
also
>fpbp
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>>106820125
DIE ZOOMER DIE
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>>106804917
This old as fuck PSU with an actual transformer (not the AI one) kept me warm in the winter.
Burned off after two years however.
Now I have a switching psu for my good old 500.
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>>106804845
Absolutely this. This x 1000. Born in 2000 pff forget it.
>>106805136
83 was a sweet spot but I think 80 would have been even better. Either way we saw and actively used all the 'legacy' technology I'm not just referring to computers here and we used and saw the transitional and that is why for the most part we have the ability to identify why so much stuff now is dogshit and we can recognize the quality in 'old' things and use them happily whilst the newer gens jump on every new fad. Not blaming them. Just an observation
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>>106808820
Everything peaked in 1999. There are some things - I'm talking broadly here across literally everything - that had some value up to 2008 if you picked and chose carefully but 99 was pretty much the end. Everything has been in terminal decline at an astounding rate since then. Feel bad for zoomers I really do.
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>>106804845
Agreed. I was born in 87 and I think I was about 5 years too late.
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As someone born in 84 I feel privileged compared to zoomers, but I wouldn't say millennials are the greatest generation for tech.
The people who were working with computers in the 70s are still around - for example, Ken Thompson and Brian Kernighan are still alive and active - and have experienced all the things we have, but also the transition from mainframes to mini to microcomputers, the birth of Unix, C, and CP/M (aka DOS), the first ever video games, the transition from paper tape to magnetic tape to hard drives, the transition from teletype to terminal to video displays, the rise of ARPAnet.
We were born into a world with all that technology already there. We only saw it being refined and turned into products. And zoomers only saw it turn to shit.
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>>106805285
I'm an 2001, first time I came here was 2016. First time I was on this site I mostly jerked off to shouldn't share threads on /b/. I even remember browsing a /pol/ thread and my grandma walked by an image from the site goatse.cx and she was like "That's a guys asshole!". Somehow she was based enough to not let my mom know what I had been up to. I remember my first experience with computers being through shitty locked down school laptops and trying to run scripts to get around blocked websites so I could play flash games while I was at school. I was so happy when my mom bought me a 200 dollar prebuilt dell that I could use as a computer at home, it had one pcie expansion slot and I bought an overpriced gt-730 off amazon to put in there to play L4D2 and JC2MP. Eventually I started running the PC in no case and put a large GTX670 in there and added some ram. Upgrading to the 670 felt amazing, there was this free program called "space engine" that I really enjoyed at the time and with the 670 it ran so much faster. Basically everytime I upgraded my PC from that point on the first thing I would test would be space engine. Nowadays I don't even play games that require a graphics card, usually playing VN's or rp'ing with ST with api keys. I remember mining ETH and getting paid in BTC on nicehash in 2017. I had two 1080ti's and managed to get 0.1 BTC. I remember my mom would yell at me about the electricity bill for leaving the PC on and she didn't believe me that I was making money just from having my pc on. I remember it was like 15 usd a day at the high point. Pretty nice income to me at the time. Not only that but I did the amazon return scam and gave them my 670 and returned the 1080ti saying it was the wrong product, thats how I got two of them. These days I am sure something like that wouldn't work. In the end though to RMT Eve online ISK. Those accounts got banned later on and I never paid attention to crypto after that so it was just pointless.
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>>106804820
>2000-2004
>no concept of a pre-9/11 world
zoomies are delusional
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>>106822078
>First time I came here was 2016
Stopped reading right there
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>>106821614
>Agreed. I was born in 87 and I think I was about 5 years too late
Nah 87 is amazing the golden age to be born
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>>106804845
You're right and It's not even close. Got to experience the classic late 80s shit and all the best of the 90s and 00s before culture died.
>>106805357
Old millennials got to play doom, quake, and starcraft though?
And also got the glory days of arcades when they were young enough for them to be a special place and outing.
>>106824752
Something like that. Mainly just because of the very early internet being a once-in-a-civilization type of thing.
But still decent enough and got to experience a lot of the techno-optimism period.
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>>106812555
or onii-san, which is what anon was probably getting at
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>>106815518
Your brain has to be studied
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>>106815518
lots of people started coming here before they were 18, myself included. hell even moot was underage when he made 4chan
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>>106815492
>>106808946
AI is literally better than everything before for getting instructions
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>>106825531
sure until it makes something up, which it regularly does
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1990s was a very satanic time
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>>106825531
AI has been around for years and it still can't even install Gentoo
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>>106804845
80-90 imo, but early 80's got the best
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>>106825028
That's faggotry and grooming tho. Get the boy some onee-san, it's the dream of every boy.
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>>106815540
dialup to broadband
various media upgrades related to both audio and video that were actual 'wow' moments
i feel like i could go on...
i think basically every major shift in the last while got covered.
the only argument i can see against that is expanding the range downward, since older people also got to experience the same(assuming they were interested).
but i don't think it 'hits as hard' as when you're young enough to really appreciate it, and your neurons/dopamine system is primed as much as it ever will be for the experiences.
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>>106830357
Older people also got to experience much more, see >>106821719
"dialup to broadband" is nothing compared to "no internet to internet"
"media upgrades" is nothing compared to "teletype to video display"
Millennials haven't even experienced the first video game boom, while there are lots of people alive today who remember the world before any commercial video games and have witnessed the ENTIRE history of the industry



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