Why isn't there foss hardware
>>106805927There is some foss firmware out there but it's rare
There is.>>106805965I hope you die (very soon).
>>106805927Because FOSS is just another type of communism, which only works when you can steal from producers. Stealing 1s and 0s is easy, so freetards do it. But they're too lazy to steal actual hardware, and can't actually create anything themselves, so the whole Ponzi scheme falls apart.This limitation is baked right into the fundamentals of communism, as demonstrated by how they say "seize the means of production" - not "develop", not "build" - the entire ideology is based on theft, and can't function without it.
what do you mean
>>106805927There's quite a number of FOSS hardware projects flying around, but most of them are niche and typical faggots from 4chan like you and me will not be interested in buying a handful of off-the-shelf components just to build a very limited 8-bit computer on a breadboard.
>>106805927risc-v
>>106806035>if i call him a jew>he'll let me steal from himThe irony of this post is delicious.
>>106805927a lot of fed-funded systems
>>106806008Foss means to you actually own the whole hardware, you can modify it, break it, patch it and nothing is hidden from you behind the license. Being able to do whatever you want with your private property doesn't sound like communism to me, does it? Current licensing scheme of renting and not actually owning software nor hardware is closer to the communist idea although still far away from it as it would have to be 100% state mandated
>>106806008also your whole point falls apart as nobody forces foss devs to distribute it for free, it's their willing choice of doing so, nobody forces corporations to use foss code either as they can produce their own equivalents or pay for different licensing to the devs>"seize the means of production"it's not communist idea, but bolshevik, you dumb cuck, both are marxist ideologies but bolshevism implies that working class is represented by the state and bolshevism implies the people are directly in power (they larp as most of bolsheviks were jewish elites however Stalin and post-stalinists were at least frank about being totalitarian privileged caste
>>106805927FOSS only works in a post-scarcity environment. Software is post-scarcity because you can write it once and send out a million copies for basically free. Hardware costs money.
>>106805927that would require troons to focus on the real world instead of the software world where they can disconnect from reality more easilyalso hardware development is for chinks and 3rd worlders now, "tech" means softwareI have never seen a thread on here talking about actual hardware development or pcb design or whatever, it's all troons and femboys trooning out over programming and "tech" if you ignore the threads that are just about consooming chinese stuff
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_hardware
>>106806923>ask question about technology>an american instantly brings up random sexual fetish
>>106806826upset? about what? enjoy your gay nigger microdick software
>>106806983>the foss and "tech" community isn't dominated by people who identify with random sexual fetishes, mainly from the west, who treat hardware as if it's irrelevant and just something those chinks and brown people make
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>>106805927egg
>>106807037Yup. Look at this thread. Look at this board.The only person bringing up sexual fetishes is people like you. You can't just talk about technology without mentioning sexual degeneracy you are obsessed about.You lower the quality of discussion.You are the problem.
>>106807652on this board, there's constantly multiple generals full of AI gooner slop that have been going for years, and you get mad at the person calling it out? maybe you're part of that and you don't like being called out so you project?
>>106805927All hardware is FOSSJust go get the resources yourself and build themGood luck
>>106805927I think a lot of it really just has to do with precedent.Physical objects have existed a lot longer than digital ones. Stallman just managed to see the clouds on the horizon and tried to dictate the psyche of technology users before it ended up worse than real life. Of course, today, it's more tenuous for both hardware and software, but having started back in the 80's probably put forth the best precedent we didn't know we needed.
>>106808349I frankly disagree. Stallman's philosophy dictates that there should be no viable funding model available to "free" software. This is an incredibly destructive belief that destroys free software as a viable secondary market for most kinds of software. If stallman had not come along, someone else would have come up with the commonly accepted notion of "definitionally ethical" software. This person may have realized that ensuring that software has a viable funding model is essential to keeping it sustainable and hence causing it to spread. Then we might be in a much better place right now.
>>106805927Hardware actually has marginal costs to manufacture and distribute and usually requires significant investment at that. It's not like software that can be made by some randos in their free time and distributed for pennies over the internet, meaning you can afford to just give it for it away for free.
>>106805927you mean foshhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_hardware>>106805996stfu>>106806061>FOSS hardwareno>>106806550>FOSS>hardwareno
>>106807965People using AI are using and discussing technology.If you can't help but associate it with sexual fetishes and bring it up unprompted, then it means the problem is you. Not people who come here for technology.
>>106808952you're not going to make the problem go away by coping hard that it doesn't exist, and just telling people to not talk about it, plugging your ears like a toddler, like you do with your other problems in your societyenjoy your endless AI porn slop that you get along with your "Tech" discussions
>>106809084>you're not going to make the problem go away by coping hard that it doesn't existI never said the problem doesn't exist. Quite the opposite, I have already claimed multiple times that we have a problem of obsessive people shoving politics and sexual degeneracy into every unrelated conversation.And the solution has always been simple. It's to gatekeep our spaces from tourists like you who come here and try to ruin it for everyone with off topic bullshit.Fuck off.
>>106809304the tourists you complain about are just people wondering why the based oldfag 40 something year old millenials such as yourself are so hostile and mentally ill, if being so unlikeable that only trannies and gooners want to use this site, then good job with the gatekeeping
>>106809341>the tourists you complain about are just people wondering why the based oldfag 40 something year old millenials such as yourself are so hostile and mentally illAnd we tell them, lurk moar and figure out. Instead of coming here because elections and then staying here thinking entire website is just extended /pol/. You are the tourist so do your part and learn about the culture of the place you visit, or we will show you the exit.>if being so unlikeable that only trannies and gooners want to use this site, then good job with the gatekeepingAnd that's fine. You seem to still not understand that 4chan and /g/ has always been a meritocracy. It doesn't matter who you are, your race, gender, believes or whatever person you are. All that matters is what you say and whenever you are right.So lurk moar and learn the difference between /pol/ and /g/.
>>106805927There's a FOSS bulldozer, that's hardware
>free open source software hardware
>>106805927The Framework 13 laptop with the RISC-V mainboard is the closest you can get to FOSS hardware that doesn’t suck too much.There’s also the MNT Reform and Clockwork Pi, but they’re glorified Raspberry Pi docks.
>>106811125>Framework 13 laptop with the RISC-V mainboardNeither of these are open source by any reasonable definition. You can't even get gerbers for the board much less HDL.
>>106811575https://github.com/FrameworkComputer/https://github.com/DC-DeepComputing
>>106811691>(((partial))) schematics for the motherboard>some programming docsWhy do idiots think having a github makes something open source? You can get this level of documentation for most Intel hardware.
>>106805927because the source is a factoryfactories arent free
Because investors like software instead of hardware.
>>106811755>> the closest you can get to FOSS hardware>urr durr its not 100% FOSSlearn to readthats the closest you can get, all other option are garbage products or scam
>>106805927There ishttps://oshwa.org/
>>106805927>free and open source software hardware
>>106812493>the closest you can get to FOSS hardwareExcept it's not even close to being that when OpenPOWER exists. The information they give in no way assists you in auditing or reproducing their product. It's no better than good x86 hardware except every other part sucks more than x86.
>>106813293If you want, make the parts on an FPGA. Then you can hack it around as much as you want. It ain't gonna be super fast or efficient, but it will do exactly what you want within the limits of what's possible. (This is what's done for prototyping when just using a simulator isn't enough.)But getting an ASIC manufactured is where things get really expensive with a bunch of awful one-off costs (mostly around making the masks for the photolithography machines). The way around that is usually to spread the cost over millions of sold units of product, which sucks for specialist work.
>>106813610>FPGAUnrelated and those aren't open source either.>But getting an ASIC manufacturedThe purpose of having HDL files for hardware is getting it audited by a semiconductor forensic outfit, which is tractable on a group buy basis. Having full CAD files for the board is useful for manufacturing replacements and auditing.
>>106806008StalinOS would have been kino, ngl
There's that one guy that made his own transistors.
>>106805927Cancerous international patent law hit the US before cancerous international copyright law.>>106806008Copyright is a balancing act between autocratic state capitalism and corporatism, something that FOSS seeks to dismantle.Ideas and software by extension are meant to be built on the shoulders of giants and FOSS devs absolutely can charge for their services.The current state of copyright has far more in common with "seizing the means of production" than copyleft, which allows anyone to iterate on the material.>>106806868The schematics and information needed to produce hardware is post-scarcity as well.>>106808659We can't get hung up on perfection when it comes to dismantling copyright, we need to achieve results.
