waiting for T470 & X270 prices tank once W10 is no longer supported

>>106812235
You think that'll be a thing?

X270 seems like an enticing upgrade from an x230. T480 even more so considering that it's libreboot compatible.

X280 would be the best replacement considering it has a similar small profile, but I don't believe that it's libreboot compatible, nor if any other newer models will ever get support. Even then, the T480 doesn't have full one-to-one functionality either, though I'm unsure how trivial the differences are.

I'm not *that* worried about glownigger spooks, but having a custom BIOS/UEFI is a nice thing to have.

How does /tpg/ view the Dell Latitude 7490?

>>106813278

>>106813284
the fuck is this

>>106813308
you thinkpad people are
>excellent linux and bsd support
right?

>>106812786
I have a latitude myself and find them to be pretty damn nice, I was using mine specifically for work until I installed Linux so I can dualboot and I installed a mobile broadband card to make use of a spare phone line I had.
If I didn't have a desktop I'd probably use it as my daily driver for everything

>>106812625
There's already patches for partial T460s and E470 support so other models from 2018 and earlier don't sound like much of a stretch. 2019 and later is a different story because of the newer, unbroken ME.

>>106813734
latitudes are awesome

Dell led the charge in linux compatibility, any dell laptop or 100 dollar optiplex worked with linux ootb, afaik no other manufacturer shipped computers with linux preinstalled before Dell
Michael Dell is the Steve Jobs of computers

>>106816382
lmao
https://youtu.be/5Qj8p-PEwbI

>>106816382
But Steve Jobs is the Steve Jobs of computers

Am I allowed to buy a t495s for the Ryzen 5?

>>106820676
If you're sure you won't come back and complain about too little memory or the keyboard being behind 80 screws

I got a thinkpad t480 and its like how the fuck do I get a new external battery for it???? they dont make real ones anymore and when I look it up it's like a million conflicting opinions about if they're shit and no no buy here and no buy on aliexpress no no ebay no no return the thinkpad like FUCK do I just return it like w hat the fuk?

>>106821271
just buy one from ebay, it will work

>>106821271
While you're at it, make sure to do this to your t480.

https://support.lenovo.com/au/en/solutions/ht508988-critical-intel-thunderbolt-software-and-firmware-updates-thinkpad

I want a 16" thinkpad, whats the best one? If a T480 existed at that size I would get it.

>>106812625
All x240+ have a shrunk keyboard and are only useful by children and women
You can try to adjust but if you use the keyboard a lot you'll end up hurting your hand
>>106823431
Any P1 up to generate 6 is fine, afterwards they removed the track point buttons so it's basically trash

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I have the same exact model and same problem after upgrading my L460 firmware on windows 11. Am I screwed bros? what can I do next?

anyone got an amd t14 gen1 and have recommendations for ssds? got it so I could put one in the wwan and one in the main slot, but the sizing is a little strange, I read about it being more cost-effective to buy a smaller single-sided drive with an adaptor and figured I'd check if anyone had already looked into it

>>106824441
>put one in the wwan and one in the main slot
I've done it on a x380
>skhynix model BC711 (128gb)
>generic 2230-2242 M/B+M key penis extender
cheaper and easier than shopping for a real 2242

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>>106824277
P series seem to be way out of my price range. Is the T590 not good? Looking at this one on Amazon

'Lenovo ThinkPad T590 15.6" FHD (1920x1080) IPS 250nits Anti-Glare Display - Intel Core i5-8365U Processor with vPro, 16GB RAM, 512GB PCIe-NVMe SSD, Windows 10 Pro 64-bit (Renewed Excellent)'

>>106825372
Just get the latest T16 AMD instead of roleplaying a neckbeard.

>>106825372
T5xx starting from the T570 (or somewhere around there) shrunk the keyboard in order to fit the numpad, not suitable for serious work

>>106825372
See if you can get a T580 with similar specs. T590 is gimped in terms of modularity because they cheaped out and used the same motherboard as in the smaller T490. Small battery, soldered wifi, only one SSD, etc.

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>>106812069

hello /tpg/
i bought a thinkpad x270 a few years ago, and one of the batteries always sucked but recently i've gotten popups about how defective it is, so i'm looking to replace it
where can I find a good 45N1127 battery if i'm in europe, and does it have to be an official lenovo one

>>106827028
Used OEM ones should be easy to find on your local Craigslist clone. 24 Wh for around 15€, 72 for around 40€. Not much reason to pay more for a dodgy aftermarket one unless you live in the middle of nowhere.

Is it possible to fit an m.2 ssd into the msata slot with an adapter?

>>106828329
M.2 SATA and mSATA are both just SATA with different connectors so no reason why it wouldn't

>>106825523
what about the E16? it's a little cheaper and just as good?

I ordered a ThinkPad X9 15.
Wondering if I made a good choice.
I've used basically every ThinkPad since the 20 series.
My reasons for getting the X9 15 were: centered keyboard (numpad sucks dick), no trackpoint while retaining the clickpad, good battery life, high refresh display with good response times, etc.

>>106828414
pretty sure an m.2 cant fit in a msata connector slot though without an adapter and then theres size to consider

>>106828930
I cancelled my order, I'm gonna get a Framework.

>>106830176
thank you

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>>106828329

Hello tpg kings
I recently got a t460 for $40 and it works. Put a new SSD. Any other upgrades I should make before I get committed to using it? I would like to be a t460maxxer

>>106816382
>Michael Dell is the Steve Jobs of computers
That's an insult to Michael.

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Many months ago, one of the anons here was posting about wanting to make a website about rebuilding batteries for old x220 thinkpads and maybe other models as well. Is that anon still around? Is he still interested in the project? Has he made any progress since?

>>106830978
this adapter is for sata m.2 drives only though, worth mentioning before someone blows money on an SSD that will not work.

>>106831099
It's one of the less moddable ones. 16 GB RAM, IPS screen if it comes with TN, maybe a bigger battery.

Battery help?

I was using my t420 on battery and suddenly the laptop shut down. The laptop can't turn on if i don't put it on AC now. The battery still shows a charge percentage on the OS but when i plug in the charger the battery LED shows three green flashes and then one shorter orange flash and then it shows nothing (while it would usually continue to be either orange or green depending on charge).
Is this how thinkpad batteries die? The overall capacity was still at 78% of the design capacity. If it's really dead what's the brand i should look for a new one?

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>>106812069
so t14 g4 is the last best thinkpad?

>>106835332
Why? What did they worsen from G4 to G5?

>>106835382
>When powering on my ThinkPad L15g1 it made some really loud BIOS beeps, it's done this before but it seemed much louder than previous times.
>the BIOS beep pattern was:
>beep boop beep boop beep dah dah
>Same length maybe the last two boops a bit faster but three different tones
>No display or display output to my external display

>>106835494
>when pressing some keys it played the tune again, very loudly, I think caps lock didn't but FN+Function keys did.
>If I had to guess: RAM unseated, Intel WiFi card, or some sort of cable to the display is messed up.

What do I do documentation sucks and just says to download some app, but after that happened I just did a full power off and power on and it works fine now I even rebooted and no issues this time

>>106835955
Do you live in a humid place? My E480 did this when I went full retard and took it into the bathroom to play music while showering.

>>106836152
idk is UK humid

>>106833411
So its m.2 to msata? as in it can connect to the msata connector on the mobo?

>>106835374
battery life drops off the cliff for moving back to modular RAM.
I always left the laptop plugged, no big deal.

>>106832983
i'm not the anon but i was looking at how to make DIY batteries for my t420 and found this:
https://old.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/wru5kj/
I haven't tried this, but i defintely will once i get good at soldering (the only soldering job i did is a 3000mAh lithium battery for my PSP)
we should definitely make some kind of wiki for diy batteries in general. Thinkpads aren't the only good laptops of the past, i have some business model HP as well that need some cells.

>>106812069
Is it just me or are new thinkpads getting a bit more modular and user upgradeable? The new p1 allows the user to fix usb C ports, speakers, battery, storage and RAM are not soldered. Here's hoping.

>>106837258
I don't think I've seen that one specifically but I did see quite a few of these. Much like your link, they mostly all focus on the battery cells themselves when that's kind of the easy part, if you can solder. The tricky part is the BMS.
From what I could get, some BMS have to be disconnected a certain way or else they blow a protective fuse you can't easily replace and some can lock down the battery and simply refuse to charge or discharge regardless of the cells condition. Info on each specific BMS for each specific laptop model is scarce and of course you can't buy replacement BMS, so the only way to have an original one on your "new" battery is already having one on your old battery.

speaking of batteries, is it possible in Linux to set charging limits, and can I make the CPU use power from the wall when plugged in instead of using the battery as a middle man

>>106836410
yes, unless you need to use a NVMe drive, then you need an adapter for the ExpressCard slot

>>106837738
>charging limits
see /sys/class/power_supply/BAT*/charge_{start,stop}_threshold
>use power from the wall when plugged in
already happens unless you use a lower wattage brick than what it shipped with

>>106837853

@gentoo ~ $ sudo nano /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/charge_control_end_threshold

@gentoo ~ $ cat /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/charge_control_end_threshold
80

Is that it? I use the same 65W charger it shipped with

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I know you guys are into business but I want a viable laptop to play lineage2 (2005) in my five hours breaks between shifts. Also, of course, the lurk and casual 4chan shitpost. I don't think there is better option than a cheap thinkpad, liviane, silent and with healty battery.
I'm watching this lenovo Lenovo ThinkPad T470S Core i7 6600U 2.7 GHz 16GB 256 nvme win10 battery new for only 280€ on a random website thinking it's perfect for my needs.
Any thoughs, recomends or memes?
pic unrelated

>>106838115
>6600U
>only 280€
>only
are you fucking serious? is euro really that fucked?
you should be able to find Zen 3 or intel 11 for $350 and those have way better iGPU and display

>>106838325
thinkpads and any other well regarded brand of old computers or old quality peripherals and parts are extra rare. Especially since brexit, Germany has the most because there's more connections to the USA.

>>106838115
This is really high, at least for the German-speaking world. I see a handful of this model selling for between 120 and 170 in driving distance.

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my friends x230 has issue with replacement battery, chinks figured stuff out and it passes as genuine one 99% of times but sometimes it does not and it also does picrel on the system tray sometimes whatever the fuck this icon even means while showing that it's charged in windows power menu, is it an issue with the battery itself or would EC mod fix this? i do own the same battery from the same brand and it works fine with my x220.

>>106812069
Bought a t14 gen 2. Don't understand the hype. The trackpad and nipple is shit on linux.

Thinkpad ... more like Thinkass
tyvm, I'll be all week, because I'm unemployed

>>106838325
>>106838945
I see, it was just a fast glance at some random website, the fact that it comes with 2 year warranty, new battery and "loicensed" windows can make it more expensive. I would like to check local stores to see what they tell me or they have in stock.

I'm just figuring out about thinkpads so dumb question maybe but is this good enough to play football manager? I want a cheap one too

Just saying I love my T14 G3 (AMD variant). I just fucking hate the whitelist on the extra M.2 slot...

>>106812069
I am currently running on my desktop computer:

Windows 7 without an antivirus or system updates newer than 2013 ( I am a power-user and consider that bloat)

AMD Athlon x4 860K
Nvidia GTX 1050ti
16 gigs of DDR3 RAM

I use this machine for, on the daily:

Small minimalist PHP Web development with Codium.exe, and XAMPP
Minecraft Alpha gaming and development (Eclipse IDE)
Team Fortress 2008 (not daily)
The majority of my workflow is done in a USB stick. The majority of my shit on my computer is not on the system disk.
The things that aren't on my portable drive are only in my system because they just aren't portable. Codecs, shell replacements, etc. XAMPP and f.lux which don't like USBs for some reason..
This results in a very light C drive footprint when this approach is applied to a fresh install of Windows.

People say it's "weak" or "underpowered", but I do everything I need without problems. I have Supermium and Pale Moon open with tens of tabs and I do not experience problems even with my pagefile disabled.

I express interest in the Thinkpad T480, but I own another laptop, the Precision 7520. I am dissatisfied with its strange Linux support, battery life, and weak keyboard, and I dislike the bloat Dell forces if you wish to install drivers.
T480 looks nice but also less bulky than the 7520 and thus less durable. Might have a better keyboard though given my 7520's E key fucking popped off for no reason whatsoever. Technically a hardware downgrade from the 7520, which had 32 gigs for some reason and 8 cores, but I use my desktop machine more than I use that laptop, so I am used to the "weak" hardware that is on this desktop. I do not need stronger hardware.
I like look of the T420 for what seems to be a bulkier form factor and heavier keyboard, but the hardware and battery life might actually be worse than my current desktop computer.

I think I am going to purchase the T480. What would I be in for for with my current setup?

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>>106812069
What do you use more /tpg/, the trackpad or the trackpoint?

>>106841884
a mouse
trackpad makes my hand tired
trackpoint isn't precise

>>106812069
I think the addiction is getting bad anons
i just got my 3rd thinkpad
im upto
>T400
>T430
>T490
What T-Line Thinkpad Should i get next?

I need a new laptop, what should I watch out for, any good recent models (like T14 from OP)?
I noticed there are a lot of retarded buzzwords like AI™ integrated or cloud™ ready.
I can't go for old thinkpad meme, I already have one and can't run all the stuff that I do.

>>106842524
What is it that you need to do on the computer? What are the specs you trying to hit?

>>106842524
>>106842561
yea I should've specified:
I'm stuck with modern web (which is by far the biggest problem for older models), stuff like google drive/docs, webcam meetings etc.
I also semi-regularly run a lot of simulations (mostly written in python because Im lazy).
I travel a lot, so I'm aiming for 13/14inch models.
I used to do graphics but my adobe subscription run out and decided to cancel it
bonus points for 2 SSD slots so I can dual boot windows
In terms of budget: I'm not sure if laptops in general can last more than 4 years so I don't want to spend too much, but if there's a good model Im perfectly fine with spending up to 2k dollars.
TLDR a machine that withstands normie life and allows me to do my computer hobbies

>>106842524
T14 Gen 1 supports SSD in WWAN slot but it's quite troublesome desu (rrquire adapter + 2242 SSD only. T14 Gen 2 introduces WWAN slot whitelist, not a big deal if you're not using it anyway.

>>106812069
got a stinkpad e16 gen2 (the core 7 ultra one) from my job a month or so ago. has anyone had any success running windows 10 iot ltsc on it? preinstalled windows 11 pro runs like shit - my intel macbook pro running 10 iot ltsc in parallels runs laps around it
i'm locked into windows before anyone suggests loonix

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Brought these from an auction lot at my uni for 2.50, description was just Lenovo Laptops with drives removed... Can someone help ID? Wondering how much replacement parts and charger are gonna cost.

>>106843022
>Can someone help ID?
just crack it open and read the label baka

>>106843174
I would, waiting for them to come in and got impatient ....

>>106843022
top x230t
second x230
third t440
bottom not sure

Just got a relatively new thinkpad and replaced its ram and storage, how much should i price a ddr5 16gb ram stick and nvme2 256 gb storage stick at on ebay? both are original lenovo sticks.

>>106843444
Thanks anon, I thought that was a stylus.

>>106841550
The keyboard is better without a doubt. I've never had a key on a ThinkPad keyboard just break from normal typing. Linux support is almost flawless (touchpad works worse than on Windows but I disable it anyway). Performance won't be much worse as both 7520 and T480 have 4-cores with SMT, not 8 cores afaik. What is definitely worse is the rigidity of the chassis.

>>106843022
Bottom looks like T420

A long time ago I had a T460s, the batteries sucked so I got "new" ones on ebay and put them in according to the lenovo instructions (disabled batteries in bios and so on). When I turned the laptop back on one of the batteries wouldn't charge (it would discharge fine) so I only had like 30% of the capacity it was supposed to be after that one ran out. So I figured, one of the batteries must be fake. I put the old batteries back in and the exact same problem appeared.
So what happened exactly?

>>106841550
If you want Windows 7 on the T480 you'll need to use some hacked up drivers. I think there's some Chinese driver for the integrated graphics that works from 7th gen to 10th gen intel. Might need to add USB3 or NVMe drivers to the installation ISO as well.
T430 or below would work with Win7 without needing to fuck around with drivers

>>106844173

see retail add markup multiply taxes add delivery

Are Ideapads any good? I'm eyeing the Y560 because i want a really compat machine. I would use it to learn coding, starting with creative coding in Processing, Also thinking about installing Gentoo on it so I can learn...

I bought my first T490 for 200 euros. I hope you have not memed me.

>>106835955
bump, I think hibernate might be related to this issue

>>106845636
Many years ago, an ideapad 320 was all I had, and that's the only ideapad I ever had. It was good. Quite large, screen was nice, ran what I wanted it to run. All plastic and the chassis did get some weird marks and some of the paint eventually gave out but the plastic itself lasts to this day.
Keyboard is worst part about them. Quite shitty and hard to replace.

>>106843444

Bottom might be a T430 or something from that era, looks like my T430 with that side card. 3rd gen i5/i7. Nice haul for 2.50

>>106812069
Is this the good place to talk about U/SFF Desktop products (Lenovo ThinkCentre/HP EliteDesk/Dell OptiPlex)?
My use case is building a NAS. What I need primarily is tons of spinning rust on the order of ~ 4TiB. That's 1, maybe 2 3.5 HDDs worth. Shall I:
> Buy an SFF which has enough internal HDD bays for my use case and swallow the efficiency penalty
> Buy an USFF and use USB-SATA converters to attach spinnign rust

What I'm looking at is either a HP ProDesk 400G4 for €175 (8500T, 8 ram, 256 SSD) or a ThinkCentre M720Q fore €200 (8500T, 16 ram, 512 SSD).
At that price my Normal SFF option is a ProDesk 400 G5
My midi tover option is a Dell OptiPlex 7060

>>106845926
he fell for the meme

should i get a precision 3530?

>>106835955
bump ev&doe I haven't had any problems since it's just been plugged in at my desk

>>106812069
Got a thinkpad x230 for like 70$ localy running gentoo on that badboy is a dream

>>106812069
Best thinkpad under $300?

>>106834475
Which models should i look at if i want to mod the shit out of it?

>>106850121
whichever you can afford to replace

thinking about making a custom bios boot splash
(on my t60 of course)
any ideas?
maybe a skull and crossbones made to look fast

What a u think about X1 Carbon?

>>106850063
i guess a t480 if you can find one

What the diff between framework and the lastest thinkpad t14 in term of repair/upgarde?
Idg the hype

>>106812069
Is kingsener still the go-to for buying replacement batteries?

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Got some jap laptop from friend
Is this heatsink not supposed to be removed? What kind of screw is that?

>>106850438
well the framwork is more made to have the same case and upgradable motherboards. and all replacements parts are sold by framework. The modular io is also cool

I will never switch to a framwork unless they add physical buttons to the trackpad and add a red nipple/ trackpoint

>>106850471
That's a screw u, buddy

>>106850442
>Kingsener
It's a mixed bag experience accdg to plebittors. Are you willing to gamble?
I just resigned to using an ac outlet and/or 65W powerbank to compensate for the dying batteries of my t480.

>>106851509
>they add physical buttons to the trackpad and add a red nipple/ trackpoint
Nirav Patel confirmed that he will never add trackpoint due to engineering issue (excuse).

>they add physical buttons to the trackpad and add a red nipple/ trackpoint
Nirav Patel confirmed that he will never add trackpoint due to engineering issue (excuse).

Companies used to come up with like level 7 bullshit. This isnt even level 2. It might be harder to engineer than a normal keyboard but it just shows where there priorities are (not productivity or efficiency)

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Is it true the USB-C charging port for Thinkpads starting from T480 and newer have a short life span that will effectively brick the laptop? I bought a refurbished L490 recently but I saw on Reddit just now that failing USB-C ports seem to be highly widespread, I'm starting to regret my purchase, thinking I should've bought a Dell Latitude 5420 instead.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Lenovo/comments/1bezmnm/usbc_port_failure_epidemic/
https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/id0y5s/long_term_durability_and_repairability_of/
https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/15h1tus/whats_the_real_life_longevity_on_usbc_charging/

>>106852170
Mine doesn't have USB-C so I don't know but is that just the connector itself giving out? Isn't that common with pretty much all USB-C connectors? They just can't take that take that many insertions.

>>106852170
There seem to be exactly two types of people: those who break every USB-C port they use and those who never break any.

>>106852170
The port itself should be good for unlimited insertions. Cables on the other hand, those were designed to be the wear items so just replace your dock or charger type-C cable every few years and you're golden.

>>106850063
T14 G2 AMD

>>106853550
how much better is it than a g1?
you swap the extra ssd for a better cpu/gpu?

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>>106850471
that CF-RZ6 screws at the other end
you have to remove the board to get to it

>>106853391
pretty much this
sucks for second hand buyers since you don't know what type the owner was
even apple does a better job at not soldering the connector direct to the mainboard
gay earth

>>106853550
how can anons here live with the fact the T14 doesn't have an SD card slot?

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>>106853834

i want tpfcontrol to run the fans at full speed all the time, i have it set to manual "64" but when the cpu reaches 76c it switches to smart mode.

how do i make it so it stays on manual?

its a T14 gen 3 and TPFC v.63

>>106853813
G2 still did, I think they removed it in G3.

If only they had the courage to get rid of the tapered edges and add 1-2 mm of thickness, they could bring back the SD slot and a fifth USB port and modular wifi. But somehow even the non-slim laptops all have to be as slim as possible.

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>>106854244
fuck should have bough a G2 instead
idk whats with 2025 but SD card readers are being axed from flagship portable/mainstream laptops for the ones I look up anyway

Is this a good value for $318?
T480 i7 8th gen, Nvidia MX150 GPU, 512GB SSD, 16GB RAM
It's a listing from some laptop store so the price is probably a bit higher than it should be, but at least they offer 7 days replacement warranty.

>>106854822
I'd say yes
Not as low as what deal hunters will approve of
But its reasonable enough
Personally, I think its only worth it as long as there are no cracks (scratches are fine) + the battery still works and lasts around 2-3 hours and the screen does not have any discoloration/cracks.
Basically it practically better be mint

>>106854878
Thanks!

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>>106853764
no...

>>106853834
>>106853842
new toons

>>106855019
what OS are you putting on that laptop?
The screen is pretty good and based on your pic its the 8GB model

I have like 6 thinkpads, the last 2 i had to replace because the keyboards fucked up. and you can't replace just the keyboard like on older ones you have to replace the whole top part which costs as much as a whole used thinkpad.
I didn't even notice much of a performance boost between my T420, T480 L490 and T14 but that's probably due to going from windows 8 to 11 plus pajeet code bloat.

I'd probably be fine still using the T480 with windows 10 if it still worked.

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>>106812069
Are the new thinkpads any good? Computer Science student looking for something for school, preferably with stylus support for maths and a GPU. Love my X220 but the resolution and trackpad are killing me

>>106855972
>stylus and GPU
Don't think there are any with both, though you might not need a GPU with the integrated graphics of today's CPUs. The Yogas are usable until 2024 when they decided that having a slot for the pen is outdated and people should carry it (and a USB cable for charging it) separately instead.

bought a t510 for 20 euros 2 months ago from this old dutch guy. it had ubuntu installed on it and ran like absolute dogshit
incredible find i think, socketable cpu and everything but i've no idea where to get a cpu? is there any ""trustworthy"" reseller in europe?

>>106856112
Not that I know of. I got lucky with a few second-hand 4710MQs from a private seller a while ago but the older you go, the less of a market there is.

really unsatisfied with my carbon x1 8th gen, compared to x280 this is frankly garbage, the hidpi screen sucks the battery dry real quick and it is generally a very hot device. Not that thinkpads were ever particularly cool historically but x280 was in a sweet spot where it didn't really do that

>>106857340
came from an X61, and went straight to a T14 Gen 3 because they finally ditched 16:9 and went back to 16:10

Its a bit too big and heavy for my taste. I considered the X13, but I really wanted an ethernet port
The framework 12 looked promising, but it came out to be a huge disappointment

Still using the T14 as the X61 is just too old.
Every new thinkpad that comes out just removes the features that used to differentiate it from the rest.
Ethernet port, SD card slot and more USB A ports (at least 3) should be standard on the X13
Removable battery too.
Non soldered RAM too but everyone is way past that.

>>106850121

T61

>Middletons BIOS
>Frankenpads
>Penryn and 8gb upgrade

Just get one made after I believe August 2007 because of the Nvidia chip problems with earlier models

have an x1 carbon on local used shit marketplace for 200€
is it worth it? gen 4

>>106857930
I'd buy it for 120 at most and only if it has 16 GB

>>106850438
the fact that frameworks ceo is a patel

>>106812625
T480 has the oldest intel generation officially supported by windows 11, so the prices of it will not go down for this reason. Keep in mind that the CPUs aren't that much faster than something like a quadcore ivy bridge from the qm series, just a bit more power efficient. That laptop is definitely a nice package, but NOT fast by any means, it's basically like pimping a 13 year old laptop, just with a type c port and an option to put in an nvme drive (and be restricted by the bandwidth)

>>106855972
don't look for dedicated GPUs in thinkpads, in the era of thunderbolt and usb4 being prevalent, you can use an external one in an enclosure at home, and you're going to be good with a modern AMD APU, especially with it having unified memory, meaning that it's actually somewhat decent for GPGPU tasks if you can get it up and running, which is a bit of a pain
>t. spent afternoon debugging issues with ollama's gpu detection on a ryzen ai apu

most of you people don't know what the hell you are talking about
-- posted from my t60

what's a good model for an absolute newbie who just wants to do stuff with linux

>>106861224
>stuff
What kind of stuff?

>>106858576
>Keep in mind that the CPUs aren't that much faster than something like a quadcore ivy bridge from the qm series, just a bit more power efficient
On 8th gen CPUs you can increase the power limits in Throttlestop to the same as for a quad-core ivybridge and get more performance that way.

>stinkpad has the driver bug where the backspace key permastuck until you restart
>happens to me today
so much for having the best keyboard

>>106853877
plz

>>106861238
I dunno, I'd just like to have a Linux machine in my possession and it would be a fun upgrade/replacement for my Chromebook which I mostly use for writing in my living room.

>>106861575
I guess anything newer than (and including) the T420 and X220 then.

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>>106843022
>Update
Thanks for the help IDing.
Bottom most machine is a t450s, from left to right on the top is t420, x220t, and x230. Some superficial damages to the x220 and x230 but the other two are in great condition.
Only have a charger for the t450, installed an SSD and putting arch on her now. Again, total price was 2.50 so I am quite giddy. Also got a pretty new Dell Latitude with good specs for 30 dollars.
So basically, look into university surplus auctions.

>>106857721
Are you using linux on that?
I got an issue with my X61 where chromium has a lot of graphical glitches

>>106838958
>would EC mod fix this?
I think so, it seems like a problem with the extra DRM added in the xx30 generation. The same thing happened to my T470 with its fake battery (empty icon, error on boot) and connecting the battery to a T510 for a few seconds made it work again.

I have an HP ProBook 640 G1, I got the stupidest issue, it turns itself on every time I shut it down. I started plugging out the battery so it doesn't stay on for no reason while not in use. I had the thing since 2018 or something, it started doing this about 6 months ago when I switched it from Winblows to Linux. Not sure if that has anything to do with it but putting it out there.
Anyone got any ideas? I'm assuming the power button might have derped in the meantime, but I'd like some other opinions before I start tearing into the laptop.

>inb4 not a thinkpad, first post say ProBooks are fine no bully ;_;

>>106859798
>-- posted from my 20 year old e-waste

Anyone had stripped screw in unreachable places? The x230 has two screws under the express card slot, one of them is stripped. I do have the tool the remove it but it won't fit because of the express card tray. Any ideas on how I could remove it?

how long will a 72wh external battery last roughly on a t480 just running like word and a lil bit of chrome.

>>106866116
That varies a lot with hardware.
Go check out some command to give you the power draw and run it with your programs open and then do the calculations based on that.

>>106862634

I'm actually using a T60 with XP Pro 32bit with Supermium, which is based on Chromium and have had no issues, works great. T/X 60/61 are all very similar machines.

>>106859798

based T60 enjoyer

>>106865021

updooter scum

Hello Autists
i recently got a t430 and this keyboard sucks ass
i know thinkpads are ultra customizable im wondering if its possible to get a T420 keyboard and replace this awful t430 keyboard with it

Sorry for the retarded question

>>106867321
>https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Install_Classic_Keyboard_on_xx30_Series_ThinkPads

>>106867350
>https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Install_Classic_Keyboard_on_xx30_Series_ThinkPads

Thank you

>>106867451
Report back if you do it. I wanted to it to my x230 but couldn't find a x220 keyboard at the time.

Where's a good place to buy a good replacement battery for my x230?

>>106812786
latitudes used to be better, but more modern ones share too many parts with the consumer lines. soldered ram and wifi cards. BAD drivers. since switching BIOS vendors, dell firmware has also been a disaster.
came to post that i just installed a chinese AX210-on-mpcie card in my t60p but the amd graphics driver decided to take a shit when i updated mint... guess i deserved this lmao

So if I wanted to get a nuThunkpad, should I get the AMD or Intel version for the T14 G6? Use case:
>Personal daily driver
>Connecting to two monitors for some personal programming/visual studio for personal projects
>Looking at boobies

imagine talking shit about the thinkpad t60.
unbelievable.

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>>106812069
dead useless thinkpads make excellent miniature movement trays.

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>>106869548
>palmrest

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Was the Precision 14 3470 a good call? I looked up as much as I could, just didn't think to ask if any of you niggas already use one for some reason.