How to request advice:>Budget>Intended use (media, source, environment)>Frequency response preference and music examples>Past gear and your thoughts on themFAQ:>Where do I buy IEMs?Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Case Studies, etc.):https://4ciemg.github.io/IEM-EQ-Guide/>/iemg/'s Blog/Wiki (Archive, Books & Papers, Music Editorial, etc.):https://4ciemg.github.io/IEMGazette/>Frequency Response Graph Toolsquig.link>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:⢠Tripowin Ruta10 (Mild V) - $18⢠Tanchjim Bunny DSP (Mild U) - $22⢠Truthear Gate (Mild V) - $22⢠EPZ Q1 Pro (V-shape) - $35>Bullet IEMs:⢠Tanchjim ONE DSP (5 Presets/5-Band PEQ) - $28⢠Etymotic ER2XR (Neutral) - $140>Flathead Earbuds:⢠Blue Vido (Warm) - $5⢠Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10>USB-C DACs:⢠JCally JM6 (Non Pro) / CX Pro - $8⢠JadeAudio JIEZI (10-Band PEQ) $18⢠Tanchjim Stargate II (8-Band PEQ) - $38⢠Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110 >PMPs:⢠HiBy R1 - $85⢠HiBy M300 - $200>AVOID USING:⢠Mainboard audio when using multi-driver posPrevious Thread: >>106805546
simzo won
>>106813158Now that you've been thoroughly demonstrated to be full of shit, use your imagination to tell me about your cuckold fantasy.
>>106813152>you've been making a LOT of shit up, write me a cuck fanfic nextI'm just telling you what everybody's saying about that fiio r2r dac. by itself it's not a one and done deal, it needs crutches. an actual whole nother amp. fuckin cope.
>>106813206blow it out your ass
>>106813191In Willow Creek, Foxbumâs bakery, The Crusty Loaf, was known for decent muffins, but he was invisible to most. He pined for Iemg, the librarian whose warm voice lit up storytime. Foxbum dreamed of winning her over with a perfect batch.The townâs talent show offered a chance: the winner would co-host the Summer Fair with Iemg. Foxbum practiced juggling and a shaky stand-up routine, hoping to stand out.Then Simzo arrived, a slick guitarist with charm that turned heads. His stories had Iemg laughing, her eyes locked on him. Foxbumâs heart sank, his confidence crumbling.At the talent show, under harsh stage lights, Foxbumâs juggling was a disasterâballs hit the floor, earning scattered pity claps. Simzoâs soulful song and witty tale electrified the crowd. Iemgâs applause for him felt like a knife to Foxbum.The final round asked for a personal story. Simzoâs polished tale of adventure dazzled. Foxbum, voice cracking, shared a raw memory of baking with his grandma, a flicker of hope in his words. But the crowd barely stirred. Iemgâs polite nod crushed him.Simzo won, crowned Star of the Show. At the fair, Iemg and Simzo shone together, their chemistry undeniable. Foxbum watched from the sidelines, muffins untouched on his vendor table. Simzo, oblivious, slapped Foxbumâs shoulder, saying, âNice try, man.â Iemg didnât glance his way.As lanterns lit the night, Foxbum stood alone, his dreams of Iemg shattered. He packed up his stall, the weight of failure heavy. Yet, in the quiet, he vowed to keep baking, to find his own light, even if it burned dimmer than Simzoâs.
PR2 R2R supremacy. FUCK poorfags
wow, that has to be the cringiest shit /iemg/ has seen this decade
>>106813214blowin out your ears with noise floor. I mean you spend that much on a dongle. cool...
>>106813239write me what your imagination says about your girl and black men next!
post iems not graphs and schizobabble
>>106813326PR2 supremacy
I <3 chinkshit
im starting to realize time is a genetic construct that browns completely lack, which is why they constantly spam charts "proving" the time domain is irrelevant to their current moment of samples. from their point of view, the sequence does not exist, their grasp of past and future is on such a low priority to them. the audio engineering version of "african time."maybe I'm overcomplicating this and I've been talking to google ai scanning reddit posts all this time posted by one autist idk
What time does Prime Day start? East Coast time or West Coast? It's 8.43 PM here, I gotta wait til midnight?
>>106813429your brain is broken. do you even understand what "time domain" sounds like?
>>106813429wellâŚwhatâs good for the goose is good for the gander, schizo
Remember not to buy chinkshit this week!! Holiday in gina!!
>>106813497god... one whole week of accumulating coins
To the anon who recommended the Tanchjim Bunny headphones, they work fantastically. If you see this, you rock!
jeets can't afford a $95 bitperfect dac so they say time doesn't matter i wish i was making this up >>106813456 >>106813488 >>106813206no this isn't my main dac. I literally bought it to shit on Indians for a change, that alone was $95 well spent.anyway tell me more about heisenberg's uncertainty principle
>>106813588>bitperfect dacplease tell me you use eq.
>>106813522gate is pretty good tho
tfw investing hundreds of dollars on racism
>>106813601>implying i don't want my equalized bits to be perfect
>>106813601this is exactly why jeets cannot comprehend the time domain lmao
>>106813634'perfect' isn't even in the same sentence if you apply any amount of pregain
>schizobabble about heisenberg principle>uncertainty about everything so don't even try to measure shit>anons have an opposing opinion>starts foaming at the mouth
>>106813638what does it even mean
>>106813634>bits to be perfect>equalizedcan't have both
Shiet, I thought this was /pmg/, my bad negroes....
you know iems are good when 90% of the thread is just constant shit flinging
>GPT lost
>>106813169forgive my ignorance but i see these threads all the time and have no idea what goes on herei like and make music, so i have an interestaren't these just earbuds?what am i missing?
>>106813820>holafucking thing is so retarded lol
>>106813857>https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide#helpful-external-linksIntroductory Overviews for Audio Noobsyoutube.com/watch?v=kQOHx1nSc50youtube.com/watch?v=1YUdNFLefVk
>>106813857>aren't these just earbuds?I don't get the question. Even if they were then what?
>>106813857>have no idea what goes on herenobody does, too many schizos and samefags that create artificial activity by posting the most ridiculous shit everstick to the links in the op, you'll be much happier
>>106813879op links have been proven to be dogshit nobody reads
>>106813857>>106813898so as i was saying, this here is nobody-read-it schizo, he'll say that nobody has ever read XYZ
>>106813861thanks>>106813863the question is "what differentiates earbuds and in ear monitors"i guess i just don't know the nomenclaturewhen i hear monitor i think of flat response speakers in a sound controlled room or flat response headphoneswhen i hear the in ear part i think of earbudsforgive me for the misunderstanding>>106813879i am in the market for new earbudsthe bluetooth stuff isn't cutting it and i hate charging themi'll read the sticky
>>106813907this guy is well known as gaslightzo, he specializes in gaslighting newfags and making them buy bad gear for fun
>>106813910>the question is "what differentiates earbuds and in ear monitors"depends on where and who you're discussing this withhere, earbuds are stuff like the airpods (non pro) or apple earpods. they do not have the silicone bits that create a seal with the eariems have the silicone bit (called an eartip). stuff like the samsung x akg included earphones are iems>when i hear monitor i think of flat response speakers in a sound controlled room or flat response headphonesflat neutral speakers are flat anechoically, and tilt downwards when placed in a room (very simplified)"flat response" headphones will not measure flat for various reasons, but the current consensus is that harman oe targets are flatfor iems, it's a lot more complicated>i am in the market for new earbudwatch the videos anon linked, they do a good job at explaining the basics
>>106813907i only skimmed through it because i don't just buy things because someone made a thread on 4chan. i wanted to know what happens here because i like my music to sound good and this general seems interesting.>>106813912i am new to this particular general so i don't know who the shills are, i'll be taking the op recommendations and researching them possibly less than the alternatives
>>106813942op recs are mostly horrible but bunny and gate are okay
>>106813942>>106813912yeah it's already getting confusing, watch the videos and follow the opthe more you reply to anons the more you'll get frustrated, everyone has an agenda and everyone hates everything everyone else does
>>106813942>>106813955this guy is projecting, the only people with a relevant agenda are the epz shills who want you to buy crappy sounding iems and they have vandalized the current opother people have agendas but they are mostly irrelevant, having to do with random audio shit like techs or whatever
>>106813912>>106813948>>106813955>>106813965Literally all samefags btw, not even joking. >inb4 pic showing (You)sToo obvious, give up.
>>106813970this is also a samefag btw
>>106813935i watched the links anon sent me, they were goodi am familiar with speaker placement and sound treatment but i had no idea what iems were. i think that makes me a retard. i've always opted for iems as is turns out(silicone tips), so i think i may just be lurking this general for recommendations from now on>>106813948broham some are saying read the op and some are saying ignore them. idk what to do except lurk>>106813955>>106813965typed as i was typingFUCK
>>106813978lurking will not help you this place is too far gone. you can check the archives there has been zero talk of iems recently, just retarded arguments over chatgpt and minimum phase and techsthe op is shit and a warzone, all the links are horrible except squig, again if you want a decent starter iem just get the bunny or gate
>>106813978>idk what to do except lurklurk if you want a brain aneurysm, see these fucking dumbass retardsfollow the op and look elsewhere, this place is a cesspool that has been simmering for 4 years in biohazardous human degeneracythe ganges of /g/, take a dip if you want
>>106813989i'll look at thoseevery general has its day and then turns to shit>>106813992/g/ is hell, my dudeeveryone either picks a rotten brand to die for or they are degenerate trans partakers of debian who worship gnui'm not asking there
>>106814017>picks a rotten brand to die forthis place is full of these
>>106814022i understand this now
>>106814017I can confirm that bunny dsp or gate are good ones to get.There are some caveats with IEMs tho like for example length modes. I feel people outside of this general don't talk about them enough.
>>106813820 now ask if EA500LM mogs it.
>>106814202it's pointless reallyits answer will depend on how you'll ask the question. waste of time
/iemg/ buying guide (2025 holidays edition)$3 EDC Pro 1DD$4 Celest Rue 1DD$4 CVJ Luki 1DD+1vibrator$7 Castor 2DD$8 Sgor Venus 1DD$10 PR2 1planar$12 Rosefinch 1DD$20 Lafitear LF3 Pro 1DD+1EST+1BA$30 VX Pro+ 1DD+8BA$23 TRN Lucky Bag (5 IEMs)
Anyone use the Fiio JH3? How are they?
>>106814320you do not need a guide to buy a $10 piece of trash
>>106814390he actually mindbroke himself into trolling... himself, with terrible gear. crazy how mental illness works
>>106813588Oversampling DACs by definition can't be bit perfect. And what audiopedophiles call NOS still has oversampling, it just disables one of the low pass filters, the digital one.
>>106813429Jessie, we need to EQ.
The Jeet mind cannot comprehend the time domain.
>>106814528You can't comprehend any domain.
>air molecules moving won't let find a peak by ear
>>106814528Chatgpt lost.
>>106814528you can't even make 1 point that makes sense. repeating nonsense about time domain will not help you lol
we desperately need a new hype cycle, the market has been absolute shit since the pure released and the threads have reflected it
>>106814634nobody really wants to make an ultimate IEM cause selling trash is more profitable
>>106814653its not about the ultimate iem whatever that means, its about releasing shit so we have something to talk about
>>106814656they release shit all the time... but nothing hype worth talking about
>>106814688hype is artificially generated via marketing and shilling, not by making something good
All this because the dude literally doesn't know how to press a button to actually check whether the IEMs sound the same. There's a virtualization study that has done this. There are anons here that have done this. But Heisenberg won't let him do it.
>>106814694it can be but obviously that's not what's happening right now (nothing is happening at all)
>>106814710yes that's the problem
>>106814653EPZ made the ultimate IEM.
>>106814736nahultimate IEM at least should have easily swappable nozzles because it's a point of failure. And easy access to official spare parts.
>>106814736ultimate shit
>>106813169My active speaker is plugged directly to the computer (via 3.5mm to 3.5mm cable). There is a pop sound when I turn the computer on and buzzing/hissing sound when I increased the volume knob up high.How can I address these issues?1. Buy a new 3.5mm gold plated cable. Or change to 3.5mm to RCA cable.2. Buy a DAC/AMP so the audio signal won't be interfered like plugging directly to the PC motherboard.3. Buy a new speaker.
You guys got any headphones to recommend for ASMR? Ideally something comfortable to wear that blocks noise from outside as I do hear cars passing and neighbours yelling ocasionally. Let's say at a max budget of 200 burger bucks.
>>106814988Hissing is most likely from the speaker's amp itself. Buzzing may or may not be from the speaker's amp, could be from a ground loop. Plugging PC and speakers into the same power strip, a USB DAC and a USB isolator might help, or a even a toslink DAC. The pop is from the DAC turning off. A DAC with its own power or a powered USB strip will solve this. The only guaranteed way to have no noise of any kind is to use passive speakers, a speaker amp with balanced inputs and a DAC fully isolated from your PC.
>>106815123A USB DAC could be a simple dongle DAC for IEMs, no need to break bank.
>>106815080>You guys got any headphones to recommend for ASMRI'm also in need of suggestions
Would you recommend truthear gate or salnotes zero og?Afaik salnotes zero og treble is a bit too fatiguing and it's an older iem with an older driver. Any opinion of people who have both?
>>106814399He is a headpos user. He physically can't order a good product. If you put apple dongle in his cart and tell him to press order he'll start thrashing and foaming at the mouth.
>>106814575>look i can't even match a single seating on a coupler
>>106816120>zombie scatgross!
I have NEVER had sex.
>>106815123>or a powered USB strip will solve thisWhat do you mean by a powered USB strip? Aren't all USB are powered via the USB port?
>>106816676Powered usb hub.
>>106816584>look i can't EQ
>>106814575Fun fact, the left and the right EQs sound identical.
Buy JIEZI
>>106816753that's an impulse response you replied to tho..
>>106817117IR = FR.
>>106815080>>106815219Well I did my own research in the meantime. I came down to Meze Audio 99 Neo and FiiO FT1. I looked specifically for Wired, Closed-Back types, with quality, "comfortable" pads that people commented on using for many hours without ears sweating, at up to 200 dollars. I also looked into the ones that have "warm" sound profiles since I imagine that's better for ASMR. (Though no idea in reality, just a conjecture.)Between these two I actually put both names in the archive and was surprised to find some other people also debating between the two. Reading the posts and their replies it seems like Meze has stronger bass which might not be entirely needed or even suited for ASMR, and also it seems like Meze has a mic which I don't need, so FiiO it is. Thanks for reading my post, make sure to like and subscribe.
>>106816676powered more
>>106816412>HD 600 owner calling someone else a headpos userI love this general
>>106817225Why the fuck would I own this baldness machine.
>>106817169are you sure about that?
>>106817329Yes.
>>106817218Yes imma feed my USB strip some protein shakes.
>>106813169Does listening to IEM and headphones too much makes you deaf? (serious question, not kidding).Why would one go for these instead of speakers? Sure, in some environment like office, you must use headphones.
>>106817374Volume makes you deaf. Doesn't matter if it's from speakers, headphones or IEMs. It's much easier to make headphones and IEMs loud but that's entirely your choice.
>>106817374>Does listening to IEM and headphones too much makes you deaf?only if you listen to it at deafening volumes.>Why would one go for these instead of speakers?good speakers + sub + mic + some room treatment are expensive, and the lack of privacy and ASMR effects for Vtubers make it worse
>>106817374one IEM user here suffered hearing loss and posted his tests, so maybe
My ears no longer accept IEMs. I can wear them for 30 minutes a day. Maybe more if I force myself. I can't. I just can't. I use my shitty laptop speakers even though my IEMs lie next to me.
Where to buy used PMPs? I want to fuck with all the low end recs (y1, echo mini, R1) but not enough to pay retail for all of them.
>>106817577even bullets?
>>106817622Anything near my ear is a no-no.
>>106817585they are so cheap that no one bothers selling them as the shipping and hassle make it not worth it, but you might find something on r/avexchange by making a WTB post
>>106813371>PR2 supremacy>posts the KZ switcheroo version of PR2kek'd
Am I deaf or Tangzu Wan'er S.G 2 just bad. It's my first IEM and it doesn't sound better than my $70 TWS.
>>106817762Just a generic cheap iem.. Tanchjim Bunny DSP wouldve been much better since you can tweak it a lot and it's comfier
>>106817734>KZ switcheroo versionthe worked on it again after releasing the meshless version. my pos is actually fucking smooth.
>>106815146Nobody here is plugging their multi-driver $300 pos into apple dongle.>>106816729Same demographic that posts charts. Yawn.
>>106817795I chose it because it was recommended in the rentry, and the normalfag review on youtube said it was good too..
my moondrop chu 2s filters clog really frequently and so I'm going to have to buy more soon and its annoying constantly changing them in the first place. will I have this problem with any iem or do they clog especially easily
>>106817985there are replacement filters for the chu 2 and I find them to last longer than what came with the pos. filters clog all the time, just replace them with better ones.
>>106817811>their multi-driver $300 pos into apple dongle.i am
>>106817811>Nobody here is plugging their multi-driver $300 pos into apple dongle.Those that don't either complain it's too loud at 1% volume or can't hear anything in general.
>>106817985inherent problem with metal pos + fabric mesh, just buy bunny/gate or something resin
Just got the KZ ZVX PRO and I'm blown away by how much better they are than the Tangzu Waner SG and the Zero 2 I already have. They sound great stock, balanced in all frequencies, there isn't that high-mid sibilance/metallic unpleasantness you find in the other 2. The bass also is so clear and with a fast decay, doesn't sound as bloated as the other two.They even cost like 1/2 of the Zero 2, those things are SO much better than the Zero 2, I will never trust reviewers again
>try IEMs like a decade ago after winning a pair>uncomfortable as fuck, audio not as good>use flat earbuds (blue vidos) for 10 years>decide to try out IEMs again, get pic rel>still somewhat uncomfortable and audio feels worse than my $3 budsi don't know if my hearing is broken or vidos are just this good. this sounds to me like the jack isn't plugged all the way in, you know what i mean? like it's somewhat worse quality.but i did try it out on 3 different devices and it all sounds the same, so i guess i'm just not built for in-ears. might need to order like 50 pairs of vidos to last me a lifetime
>>106818332The Zero 2 are a bit of a meme, they are very shouty and unpleasant in the high-mids, I need to tone them down a lot to make that metallic tone in the high mids go away. They are also bloated in the bass and the upper treble is very weak. They can sound good with a lot of EQ bands but stock they have an awful tuning
what a coincidencehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYaEphoGJlc
For me it's the EDC Pro
>>106817809this. latest PR2 is the best one if you've read the EQ guide
KZ could've released it as the PR4 and charged $50 but they price dropped it to $8-20. Fucking crazy
>>106818325>standard is Zero2 and Waner1rip
>>106817837rentry is utter dogshit ngl, sorry u got scammed
>>106818562C'mon the Zero 2 are absolutely the most suggested cheap IEMs, and the Wan'er are also up there along with the Chu 2 (which I haven't heard). Either way those KZ ZVX PRO are so much better than both at half the price
>>106818365i got the first version i think>high-mids>upper trebblei have no clue what those words mean
7hz zero was never a good shell design simple as. jagged ahh mcdonald's toy pos
>>106818894The Zero I have less bass and more high mids/treble than the Zero II (which already sound nasty in the upper regions), I can only imagine how harsh they are going to sound
>>106818983wearing any IEMs in public makes you look like a manchild
>>106819178no actually we look very beautiful and cool :3
>>106819178Fox IEM doesn't have this problem.
holy shit my ears hurt so much nowi got memed again
>>106818670buy chu2 or rosefinch next
Just cleaned and fixed my Anandas, it's pretty good now.
>>106818983this is why i bought mine in pink
>>106819178
EQ Guide.Read once, buy once.
>>106819392*never read, never buy
>>106819392>buy oncethe entire point of EQ guide is that you don't buy $200 pos. you buy as many IEM as you need and EQ them to perfection
>>106819430Use case for more than 1 IEM?
>>106819430>you buy as many IEM as you need and EQ them to perfectioncan't you just eq 1 to perfection???????????>>106819447different flavors cater to different genres/moods, also consumerism addiction, etc..
>>106818670>>106818325quality is inversely proportional to $
>>106819447Unvented BA sets isolate the best but are worse in objective sound quality metrics. Come on now, this is obvious. Didn't your precious EQ guide teach you this?
>>106819465Flavors of what?>>106819473Obsoleted by er2xr?
>>106819447One for the bedroom, one for shower, one for work, one for outdoors, one for the guest bedroom, one under my bed, one in my truck, one in my wife's purse for when she's out with her boyfriend
>>106819481tunings mostly
>>106819447gaming: vx prometal: pr2nigger music: chu2pop: edc proj-pop: ruevidya: lf3 pro
>>106819481Not everyone wants eardildos. Their distortion is pretty bad for a single DD too.
>>106819501>>106819511EQ does this better than multiple IEMs.
>>106819532nah. some pos have better or worse quality than others and no amount of eq will save them.
>>106819580Quality? As in Q? There are no good or bad Q values.
>>106819599are you really having a conversation at this point
>>106819580>some pos have better or worse quality than otherstrue, edc pro takes eq beautifully, while my simgots and thieaudio shit the bed
>>106819629edc pro is a scam even for $0
>>106819668its all subjective i guess, its so good for me
>>106819680no its objective, i am right and you are wrong
>>106819687no, im right and you are wrong
>>106819698nuh uh
>>106819629>my simgotswhy would you eq pos that have tuning nozzles?
>>106819747because they dont target what i want to change
Opinions on soundcore p40i as first time wireless earbuds? I've got EM6Ls as my daily but can't do wire at work anymore so needs to be wireless, just how shit in comparison will it be?
>>106819747Because every nozzle is ear rape ???
>>106819532I EQ all those IEMs
I have like 24 EQ profiles on my chinkheld for 8 IEMs
>>106819759they have a dsp cable and app now apparently>>106819793you have no personal experience with it.
>>106819833>they have a dsp cable and app now apparentlythats cool, but i can always get a dsp cable for the edc pro for cheaper anyways
>>106819836>>106819668
>>106819833If I had "experience" with it I would be completely deaf. I listened to it at a store and had to put it down after 3 seconds.
thoughts on ie600? can get it for pretty cheap, always wanted to try on of the newer sennheisers for the fit and stuff, but i'm not confident in the cable connectors
>>106820011treble heavy sound. connectors are an altered mmcx (meaning regular won't work) but several aliexpress sellers sell specific ie-series cables at reasonable cost, so mostly a non-issue.
>>106819923so it is a you problem, then.
>>106820033figured, i can get these for around $300 but i already have a few other pos that i really love, just wondering if its even worth (i know i know, i have to decide for myself)
https://youtu.be/6ONY7zMvipIStop using cheap DACs that sound digital. PS Audio DACs have an SOTA output stage and it converts everything to pulse density modulation (DSD), which is much better than pulse code modulation (PCM ewww). Make sound analog again.
>>106820454Buy an ad
>>106820454"We have apple dongle at home" ahh video.
>>106820454that shit dont fit in my pocket nigga. also you can get the same shit upsampling to your dac's native rate using foobar or PGGB
>>106820542damn man talking like that just screams low intellect. even if you're joking.
>>106820726You get this shit by using DACs that are not explicitly marketed as R2R, and even some that are :^)
>>106820454Obsoleted by fox modulation.
>>106817762define badwaner should sound pretty good for most people
Stupid newfag question timeI bought my first IEMs, as well as a DAC dongle, and I'm waiting for them to arrive. The problem is that the only USB-C port I have is on my motherboard, and considering the length of the cables for these things, I don't think they'll reach my ears comfortably... My question is, will using a USB-A to USB-C adapter on the PC case ports affect the sound quality in any way?
>>106820930>USB-A to USB-C adapter on the PC case ports affect the sound quality in any way?nope. in the digital stage, it's just transmitting 1s and 0s all the same.
>>106818519>>106818670dudes are listening to their length modes and think its IEM's fault...
>>106820109>if its even worthie600? for 300? Frankly I wouldn't even get it for 30>(i know i know, i have to decide for myself)no just straight up don't buy it
I have finally found a method to measure leakage effect on IEMs. Still have to tweak a few things, but the results so far are good.
moondrop rays or dunu titan S2? both are on sale right now
>>106821871moondrop may
>>106821871>>106821874rays has a web app to tweak the EQmay has not
>>106821113what does this mean
>>106821702Distortion status?
>>106822372What do you mean distortion status?
>>106822381How much worse does it get with leakage.
>>106822387Oh that, I haven't calibrated SPL and optimized for SNR, but from the measurements I have distortion increases a bit. I'll cover distortion as a factor of leakage and SPL for the next IEM I review.
>>106815993I used to prefer the Zero, but the Gate is better with a more "safe" tuning for rock music etc.It's more durable (despite the giant hole in the shell) with a more comfortable cable.The Gate has slightly more bass but is still pretty "neutral" with no region that stands out.I didn't think the Zero was really fatiguing, and it does have enough bass if you get a good seal. Both of these need some tip rolling to sound their best. Both are better than the Zero 2 which sounds like an old KZ with the V shaped tuning.>>106819178I've got the "why don't you use wireless?" a few times but I've actually got some interest from co workers (especially with the odd looking shells) and got a few of them to go down the Chi-Fi rabbit hole.
>>106822402Probably depends on the amount of damping. If it's mega damped like >>106821702 then it won't increase much, but if a bump appears then it will go down the shitter. From what I've seen on headphones.
Why do most IEMs have a drop in the 300 to 800hz range? like a valley in the frequency response there
>>106822481Because most IEMs boost bass and treble, if you don't go full V, it'll be flatter, like the Pure, E500, and Illustrous, etc.
>>106822481most important sounds like vocals and snare hits are in the midrange. adding too much color there would sound unnatural and annoying because human brains are wired to be sensitive to those frequencies
>>106822481Mids don't exist. No point in playing them.
>>106822473how the fuck is zero2 V-shape when it has less treble than zero1?zero is basically harman 2019 (just like gate)
>>106822481because most of them use harman 2019 ie target as a template.It's not even necessary mean that original harman 2019 ie would have this dip lol just that it was measured like thatPlus it's easier to tune 1DDs that way
>>106822824zero is more diffuse field with subbass than harman related
>>106822791mids only exist if your drivers are anything except dynamic
>>106822478Here's a quick test I did, still some minor stuff I should optimize for. 97 dB, 2M, 1 sweep, somewhat consistent insertion depth.Red is ideal leak, followed by green, blue, orange, yellow, then teal. I would stick with red, blue and green for realistic leakage conditions.
>>106823172you can say the same about zero 2
>>106815123Aful MagicOne with foam tips.
these prime deals suck time to wait for 11.11 i guess
>>106817374No I've used IEMs since 6th grade (which means 25+ years) and I have great hearing, no tinnitus. Concerts are too loud for me.
>>106817577Get some Koss Porta Pros (and buy the better aftermarket pads).
>>106819178I'm a Chad so I can wear anything and make it look cool.
>>106823886also trvke
>>106823852what kind of turbo ass pos were you using 25 years ago lmao
>>106823833>time to wait for 11.11 i guessalways do thateverything else sucks
Didn't see a headphone general so thought I would ask here. I found this deal on amazon this seems really good. I've only ever used cheap 10 dollar walmart headphones though so I don't know what I'm doing. Do you think these would be a good choice to get into higher quality stuff? Do I need a dac/amp or anything like that?
>>106824318sure. no just plug it in.
>>106824318Fiio JT1
>>106824318pretty good, fits nice and is durable, very warm but nothing a bit of eq can't fix
>>106824137I don't know it came attached to my mp3 player. It was earbuds tho, not technically IEMs. But same thing.
>>106824318That's a fake deal (like all "deals" on Prime Day). That headphone normally costs $99 when not on sale. I know because that's what I bought it for 3 years ago.
>>106824363These don't look too bad, it says it has a mic but I don't see one. Is it one of those ones hidden in the cable? Aren't those usually really bad? I just play with friends on discord sometime so I don't need a great mic but I would like something. If I was going to get the senn I would have to get something else to let me speak. Was thinking of the antlion modmic or maybe a cheap streamer mic I could just clamp to my side. I don't sit at my desk I sit on a couch. How does the base of the jt1 compare with those sennheisers?
OP is famous, his guide mentioned on Reddit.
>>106824318some of these pos brands have headpos too.
>>106824413FT1 has much more (and better) bass. They're way better headphones overall.
>iemg shilling headpos in 2025put it out of its misery
>>106824413don't listen to the guy shilling fiio garbage. cheap chinese flavor of the month, avoid
>>106824429Nice they look good. One issue though, since I sit farther away I need a cable that is at least 6 feet long. It doesn't seem like it would be long enough for me. Is there such a thing as a cable extender? Or some other way to work around that?
>>106824462Do you have a better alternative? I'm open to anything but the price can't go above 100ish max.
>>106824417>top of ranking>without ever being readscam, sham, spam
>>106824473maybe the one with 9,733 4.6 stars rating you originally posted
>>106824467You can buy a longer cable for $15-20. Just search Amazon. I recently purchased a shorter cable for my Sennheiser HD650.
>>106824473There were some Hifimans on sale for $99 (down from $499) on AliExpress. Don't know if the deal is still active. That comes out to $80 with the coupon.
>>106824511Looking at the headphones it looks like they have two cables that need to be plugged in. So would I need to buy two of these?
>>106824580You can either buy one(1) of those extensions or a whole new cable like pic.
jesus christ he woke upgoodnight yall
>>106824610Thanks for the help sorry for being retarded. Think I'll try ordering both headphones and see which one I like better. I'm sure they both sound good but I have a huge head and sometimes a headphone feels painful on my ears.
Buy your MDR-R10 clone for only $53 over at https://store.hifiman.com/index.php/he-r9-refurbished.html
>>106824661Sounds like a good plan!
Just picked up these bad boys
>>106824732please wipe your lens bro
>>106824737It adds a booka effect though
>>106824750the bokeh looks like a grease stain, this aint it chief
I know this is the iem thread but I thought I'd ask anyway just in case.I'm in the market for some closed back over ear headphones than are bassy and clear. Doing initial research most people seem to be going crazy over the Fiio FT1. The price point is right and they seem to meet my needs.Is the hype warranted or are these overhyped/ flavor of the month/ astroturfed?
>>106824809a mix of both, they sound pretty good to me but ymmv, you never know with closed backs (a lot of details and science bs that you don't need to know about)demo them through amazon and you'll be good
>>106824809no real alternative (still) at this price pointmight want to EQ treble a little bit tho
ahhhhh fucking headpos invasion nobody cares about your gay hd 600
>check in on /iemg/>headpos spam>jeets>poorfags>cables that aren't even iem relevant>retards talking about science>fiio shilling>amazon screenshots>retarded questions>retarded charts>retarded EQ>nobody talking about IEMsit's fucking over. fuck you
>HEXA for 60 bucks + Free Delivery + 5% DiscountShould I REDEEEM the deal bwos? Or is it too good to be true?
>>106825209boring flat with weak bass. if you want that, sure
>>106825209hexa is rather obsolete this days even for 60
Quick question to my fellow wireless headpos users, is there any decent pair with FR on squig which I can autoeq to harman or some other target? It kinda worked with wh1000xm3 but those fucking died on me today
I'm still using the OG moondrop space travel, how much of an upgrade would the 2 ultra be?
>>106826453why ultra? the regular is good enoughfar as I understand the biggest improvement is that you can get higher volume out of the new ones, the OGs definitely don't get loud enough sometimes
anyone that own the Kefine Klean, what tips do you use with them? i been looking at some tips and some of them are too small for the klean>3mm vs 5.2mm
>>106826453Ultra sounds a bit better in my opinion, but the biggest upgrades come from the new features like LDAC, EQ, better ANC, battery life etc.I also went from the original ST to the Ultra, probably not worth getting them if you have the ST2.
I want something that wonât constantly fall out of my ears
https://newsroom.sennheiser.com/audiophile-sound-cut-loosehttps://www.sennheiser-hearing.com/en-US/p/hdb-630/Sennheiser just solved wireless headphones
all these HD 600 owners will go back to complaining about headpos as soon as the amazon "sale" (lol) ends just kill me
>>106827675>no replaceable batteryenjoy your e-waste
>>106827675>neutralwow it's fucking nothing, another nobass wonder
>>106828189>neutral>nobassjust listen to songs with bass, it'll be there lol.
EA4 didn't come with a stock case so I ordered one, unboxing dump
>>106828676not double boxed like the jutem case but seems well protected
>>106828686case comes in ziploc
>>106828695From çŽć ć塼çŽĺ ˇ (or Kevin) on taobao - vouched by my chinese bros but lowkey doesn't feel worth it. Paid $230 but craftsmanship doesn't seem as good as Jutem. Even from the pic u can see strands sticking out because the cut wasn't clean. Also the "metal" grills is flimsy and sounds like plastic, the ones on the Jutem actually feels like metal.
>>106828749what the fuck is this
I spent 50 bucks on iloud stands...
>>106828917that's a good use of money though. poorfags spend money on things they don't need. you clearly needed monitor stands and afforded them
Theres no way theres an audible difference between a good $50 and a $300+ IEM.
>>106828988There's an audible difference between a $50 IEM and a $50 IEM. Sometimes there's a difference even if it's the same model. Check graphs.
>>106828951thanks for the nice words anon, left was 10 bucks and right 25 a piece, but you can see why left might not be suitable for speakers, if they are quality i might reuse them for future speakers if the ilouds die or something
>>106828988true, $300 pos sounds worse
>>106829035I believe it, that is more or less why I specified good. Though by audible difference I should also say I mean clear discernible audio clarity.
>>106829068good is totally subjective, some people consider ear rape epz trash to be good
would tanchjim origin be an upgrade from simgot em6l?
>>106829212yes
>>106829212only if it's Lost Manor version
>>106829068There are no good IEMs thoughbeit
>>106829226Any others you would recommend as an upgrade?>>106829238>Lost Manor versionWhy does this stuff get so autistic with versions
>>106829260softears twilight
>>106829264epic
>>106828855i think it's the chamber your dick goes in for when your wife's boyfriend won't allow you to use it
KZ won.
Is there another company capable of causing this much buttmad? >>106819668
Why does it cost $30K?
>>106829859The tuning is just that good.
dawn pro or fosi ds2?kinda leaning towards the ds2 since reddit seems to have such a hateboner for fosi, but i'd like more opinions/recs
>>106829910don't know shit about the dawn pro, but DS2 is powerful, clean, measures well and feels silky smooth in the hands.
>>106829910Tanchjim Luna AT
>>106829910dawn pro II if you care about peq
>>106829859Bait for audiopedophile boomers with blasted hearing who believe audio is sorcery
>>106829859bet you anything it sounds like $300, at the most.
redpill me on niggerman tuning, why do the normgroids love vslop so much that 95% of the market needs to be that
>>106831051They don't love it because that would imply they know their preference. Normies just don't really care about sound quality or tuning and haven't really taken the time to figure out what sounds best to them, so they hear bass and treble and just assume its good.