The walls are closing in. How do you feel about this?
>>106814687pretty good. i use loonix.normretards *should suffer, its only natural
>>106814687absolute bizarre behaviour
>>106814708Perfectly sensible from their perspective, we all know what they want.
I laugh as I don't use it
>>106814687I love it. The more they push their draconian shit the more internet autists will try to break it. Microsoft literally cannot win. They won't win.
>>106814687Custom ISO Never look back
>>106814687install 23H2 with a local account, upgrade to 25h2 later
>>106814701>pretty good. i use loonix.>normretards *should suffer, its only naturalEither way we're cucked.
It's literally just a check box in rufus.I would be fine having and using a Microsoft account if they still made phones. I prefer Microsoft's software to Google's, but I'm just not going to deal with splitting my shit between their ecosystems.
>>106814767>vuln from a year agoyeah, about that...
>>106814687>use old iso without the jewiness>update to latest version once I have my local accountwhat is stopping me from doing this?
>>106814767The only distro this was actually exploitable in was debian unstable. Why are you running debian unstable again?Even though the code did get into Fedora temporarily it wasn't actually exploitable because of how they configured things.
>>106814811You only "ecosystem" should be a git repo and/or SFTP.
>>106814908
i do use the microsoft account
>>106814687>paranoid retard using local accounts>no one drive backup>no easy sso in most services>get all your data on any devices easilybrainlet tryhard, microsoft is a respectable company, what are you afraid of?
>>106814936my sides
>non-negotiableI never saw this word combination before LLM slop output started rolling in and replacing everythingWas the article written by AI?
>>106814687I was always wondering with how much shit normies can put up with.
>>106814936>tried to run it as root>user malware>no permissions????? are you having a stroke lil bro
>>106814936Wow so secure, what a laugh, once more people use this all the roaches will come into the light
>>106814966>more people>roachesAnon, 100% of people already use Linux, the roaches are the only ones left on windowns
>>106814963unc
>>106814972Sounds like a roach cope I hope your os becomes more popular and useless
Not a problem on my Apple MacBook Pro.
>>106814996>Useless e-waste Pro®Solder your dick too
>>106814982The only way for Linux to become more popular is to fix intelligence crisis and government doesn't want that.
>>106815052What a joke any idiot can install that crap, I bet you feel smart, nah you're just a retard
>>106815068So windows users are below "any idiot" intellect?
>>106815076Lol no one cares what os you choose to goon on all day, linux vulnerabilities will come to light as more tards like yourself start to use it
Does the linux file picker even show thumbnails?
>>106815193Depends on the DE etc.
>>106814687So what happens if my computer updates from 10 to 11? Does it just become unusable?
>>106815208the what?
>>106814996Same here. This really is the way. Not windows, not linux. Just perfect, always working, MacOS.INB4 0.5 AppleBux credited to my AppleWallet
Im tired of so many things in modern tech. This being one of them.Endless accounts and apps for every little thing. 2fa and captchas for the dumbest things. I consider windows and x86 obsolete but sadly I still depend on them for stuff where arm/risc v ports arent available and/or with which proton/wine doesnt play well.I strongly believe that future proof software dev should be portable and support a variety of OS and architectures and not rely on accounts for things that clearly do not need one
The answer is Linux. End of story. Take control of your own shit and DIY
>>106815311normiecattle get enraged when you tell them that if you don't like corporate farm cage you need to get your own free range (and bad weather is part of the experience) lol
>>106814687i used oobe/bypasssnro today just fine, so ah, it worked on my machines
>>106814936Yeah this totally happened
>>106814687>live in a pod>eat the bugs>own nothing and enjoy itbut i draw the line at satya jeetella forcing a cuckosoft account onto me. i will email him a jar of my shit
I've said it before, it's Tux or Cux.
>>106815378These changes have appeared in either beta or dev builds, but it looks like they want to make it permanent. Very strange behaviour from Microsoft, and yet another loop that can and will be jumped through.
>>106815608The only strange behavior to me is doing workarounds for an OS that's actively spying on you just to keep using it in "privacy oriented way" when at this point you have to admit that it's simpler to Install Gentoo than it is to patch your proprietary OS.
>>106815628that's how bad linux is, can't even beat the cesspool that is win11
>>106815311>Take control of your own shit which you won't be able to use 95% ofHow many times do I have to teach you troonixfags? I'm not moving to troonix because its hard or whatever, its because all the programs/software I use in order to put bread on the table either are not supported or run like shite, and no I'm not talking about gaymes. No matter how hard you screech MUH LOONIX it won't ever become mainstream, people would rather become iToddlers than use loonix
>>106815682Have you tried getting a real job because scamming old people isn't it, chief raksheet.
>>106815628Because in the real world, the desktop software people need is written for Windows.
>>106815694Name one "desktop software" that people>needand isn't:>browser>video gamesIt's very important to understand the difference between needs and wants, so, go ahead, tell me.
>>106815702LTspiceGo on troon, tell me I don't need it.
>>106814820That's not a vulnerability, that's just an antivirus that pushed a bad update.
>>106815702The troon got awful quiet. I can imagine he's desperately searching for alternatives and hitting dead ends. I predict he'll give up and just push wine or windows in a vm.
>>106815702Adobe software.There's tons of software that people and companies use that are not available on Linux.
>>106815702>Excel>OneNoteI want the real thing, not a shoddy office suite, and there's no good cross platform OneNote alternative in existence.
>>106815702BTFO
>>106815702Guitar pro>inb4 TuxguitarLiterally clunkiest, most unusable POS ever, apparently written by a person that has never touched a keyboard
>>106815717>>106815739I was taking a shit and don't use a phone when shitting so I'm very sorry that you had to wait, dumb nigger.I see LTspice has macos version, so tell me anon, what job do you have. How does your job benefit other people? How does it benefit society in general? And why does it pay so little that you cannot afford a mac?
>>106814687>an online account is non-negotiablei don't think sobut seriously, what's the issue with using ubuntu/fedora in 2k25? easy gui installer, everything works out-of-the-box, programs for normies are preinstalled. 95% of population uses PC for browsing, music, films.
>>106815772Guitar pros don't need software called like that. Last I checked, they don't need any software at all, guitars just don't work that way.>>106815756>>106815749Go to the office and use office PC, not needed at home.
>>106814687Winfags are hopeless. They'll accept every new downgrade, every loss of ownership, privacy and dignity and rationalize it to themselves that this will be their "last" Windows version.Meanwhile Linux is improving in all the ways that matter, gives you complete control over your computer, and runs about half of vidya with better FPS and still getting better. But winfags still can't seem to come to their senses. They're literally hopeless, and it's pointless to even argue with them.
>>106815702Altium Designer, DipTrace, or any PCB design software worth using. >inb4 KiCad. It's not completely terrible... but it's not an alternative.
>>106815798Go to the office and use office PC, not needed at home.
>>106815802>>106815776Thank you for conceding. Windows is for serious business. What distro are you planning to hop to next? Tell me which anime girl you've set as your current wallpaper, why did you pick her and not her rival?
>>106815795did linux "improve" mouse to not stutter yet?
>>106815628because they're for work. companies wanna buy something thats guaranteed to work with paid support contracts from the supplier. and besides you think 56 year old Sharon from accounting is gonna learn a new operating system?
>>106815807Last time I was employed by a serious business, they just gave me a Macbook pro because they understood that it's worth investing into me being able to do my job instead of tinkertrannying with Poojeet OS all day while not even being given any hardware at all because that's how little your so called "serious business" respect you.>>106815814Mouse stops stuttering when you beat wayland stage and unlock optional X11 DLC lil bro.
>>106815780wifi stick doesn't worki need to spend like a week of googling and arcane terminal proompting to setup everything i like, for even something basic like video thumbnails
>>106815820Again, serious business that actually makes money hands out macbooks like candy to their employees. You're some rancid jeet and likely a NEET larping as "serious business" self employed fag.
>>106815702I need handy funscript reader for my goon machine
>>106815826also last time i checked loonix mpv didn't even work>>106815822>loonix is actually good for 99% use cases... not, not like that. install this specific distro, type this specific command and ignore most of issues and everything will be fine!!
>>106815835>type this specific commandas opposed to applying 5000 scripts that brick half of windows just to maintain "privacy", right?Again, people who respect themselves use Linux, and people who are respected by their employers use macOS, windows is for rancid poojeets like (You).
>>106815827why would a company waste money handing out macbooks over something like a latitude when all their users are doing is sending emails, making spreadsheets, etc?does the price of the PC denote the seriousness of the work?
>>106815776>I was taking a shit and don't use a phone when shitting You took a shit in a street mate.
>>106815843>does the price of the PC denote the seriousness of the work?obviously yes?
>>106815843It's not a waste of money, it's an investment. Something you wouldn't understand, because you were never employed in a company that makes real money.>>106815850If I was shitting in a street, I'd be using a phone (android) because then it cannot fall into my toilet and I cannot afford an iPhone. Oh wait, I have iphone and I'm not risking dropping it into my toilet.
>>106815853It's really funny how these unemployable retards think that companies don't spend money on good hardware. Like, do you think servers respond in sub millisecond latency through aether or void or some shit?
>>106815835>nonono not that hardware. buy paricular hardware known to work. this is common beginner mistake. saar aren't you glad to experience linux freedom? Now you have no software, and your hardware no longer is any good. You are free!
>>106815863Do you also react the same way when your doctor tells you to eat some fiber?
>>106814687Anything that makes Windows users more miserable is a good thing.
>>106815853>>106815857starting to think you fellas might be unemployed. windows will always be the standard for 99% of usecases in the workplace. there is nothing more serious about a macbook unless you can give me real reasons?
>>106815900Sorry but a business that uses windows, likely pirated copy, is full of indians, because indians also are practically free.But I ask for a fair pay.
>>106815896its sort of funny because now not having wifi drivers fucks up windows setup just like linux
>>106815917luckily I'm not poor and have ethernet cable at home
>>106815863Lol TRVKELincux btfo
>>106815912usecase for mac?
>>106815956Employment and self respect.
>>106814767>it was caught before reaching most stable distributionsSo a nothingburger.
>>106815961what work gets done on a mac that isn't done on windows at a reasonable cost?
>>106815926>too poor to afford wifi 7 lol
>>106815984There's practically no difference except the work gets done by white hands, which is important in my field.
>>106815987frivolous spending on computers for the aesthetic doesn't seem like a successful business strategy
>>106816008works for the most valuable companies in human history
>>106816008Is this why you shit in a street? Frivolous spending on plumbing and wasting tons of water just for what? When you can shit on street for free with no water? You don't even need to wipe, nobody cares about the smell outside, or inside, when you live in a house with no windows.
>>106815814It doesn't stutter in Mint and never has. Don't use a tranny distro and you won't have a problem.
>>106816012examples? sure maybe for the people who appear in photos and promotional material but the people doing the grunt work are all on windows machines
>>106816021so we're unemployed posting about jeets all day. waiting on a practical usecase for mac in business
>>106816040No, I'm employed, so affording a mac is easy. Not sure about you, what's your problem?
>>106815702Stuff I need for my work
>>106816044theres no usecase for a mac so i don't waste my money on one. unless you can give me a practical reason to own one?
>>106816064I didn't pay for it, my employer did, so I don't know, it's better than whatever dumpster garbage you got at home so I'm not complaining.
>>106816064it just works
>>106816079so there's no usecase outside of aesthetic. i'd rather spend the money on a watch or something
>>106816096I also have a watch, it's not like I'm unemployed and have to plan what I buy.
>>106814936look at this cool guy definitely not making up stories to impress his gf from pfp
>>106816021MacOS is brown and gay
what's to stop anyone getting an LTSB Win 10 ISO and just sitting on that forever? Fuck updates just block *.microsoft.com
>>106816129MacOS isn't a person. Well, neither are you, but that's besides the point.
>>106816109yeah whats so great about having a job - just getting to consoom shit. are you from third world country?
>>106816135software dropping support for win10 for one thing
>>106816151If I was from third world country, I'd be bragging about using a pirated and tinkertrannied bootleg windows install, because it's the only way I could afford to even post on this board with my intelligence, since linux requires more intellect, and macos requires money that is a bit over my paycheck.I repeat, average linux install is less tinkertrannied than your windows install.
>>106816170>since linux requires more intellect>I repeat, average linux install is less tinkertrannied than your windows install.You couldn’t maintain a consistent thought spanning two sentences.
>>106814687This removes the bloatware and makes Windows 11 usable.https://atlasos.net/
>>106816207
>>106816170lmao what are you on about. desu its on brand for poor third worlders to brag about frivolous things
>>106816229Such has running water and high quality plumbing?
>>106816213You need like a 2 year old computer max to be able to run VM efficiently.My computer is 8 years old (1060 gtx, i7 CPU and 16GB DDR3) and it struggles to run even windows 7 on a VM
>>106816238When you're worth 6 figures, buying latest hardware every 2 years doesn't make up even 0.1% of your expenses.
>>106816236no, such as macbooks (because they're serious lol). try to stay on topic you kook
>>106814687Microsoft already forces you to link a phone number or email to sign in with an account, unsurprising.
>>106816259>>106816259>Microsoft already forces you to link a phone number or emailCan't figure out a google search. ngmi...
>>106816252Well, you know, anon, a macbook only has to be bought once, meanwhile my water bill is monthly and costs much more per year, so if macbook is such an expense for you, I wonder about your plumbing situation
>>106816238you're just fucked due to poor ram, my pc is about as old but on 64gb of ddr4 and runs vms no problem
>>106816284Come on, DDR3 and DDR4 cannot be that different
>>106816276>macbook only has to be bought onceuntil you're raped by the macOS planned obsolescence. its a dumb accessory for consoomers with no real usecase
>>106816310the amount of it matters too, you on 16 barely have enough for modern windows, compared to 64 where I can if I want have like 4+ vms with 8gb given to them each... futureproofing is a thing for a reason.
>>106816310Last time I had DDR3 was in my 2011 laptop>>106816315I'm not poor, again, macbook literally costs less than water.You can't say it's an useless expense when it costs less than basic necessities.
>>106816321I run GNU/Linux so I can afford to give 8gb to windows you know. That is what I do
>>106816333>8GB to windowswhat are you using the remaining 56GB for??
>>106816333yet you say it runs like shit while it just works for me, idk what to tell you dude
>>106816343he has 16 gb total bro
>>1068163512010's called and they want their ewaste back
>>106814952Unstable internet connections?Also you can use smartphone without online account. Why does Microsoft think that a PC is more of a smartphone than the smartphone itself?
>>106816323then if its just about the flex then whatever, just don't pretend you do any real work.
>>106816323>macbook literally costs less than water.?
>>106816383I pay $3000 a year for water and I'm not counting my pool because I'd make you throw a spastic fit if I told you how much that one costs and I'm not here to show off.
>>106816323you're really coming off like a jeet in this one lmao. regular people don't think about the price of water when buying things
>>106816389do you leave all the sink at full blast all the time or something? I pay less than 400 a year for water
>>106816400Not your business what I do or don't do with water that I pay for.>>106816396>water costs are so irrelevant that we don't even think about them>something that costs less than water is frivolous unaffordable expenseUhhh, who's the jeet here?
>>106814687wow you got something to hide? why are you trying to prevent them from fingerprinting you and tracking ur every move?
>>106814687enjoy your neo-chromebook. I'll just use linux.
>>106816409uh oh meltie! maybe cool down in your 3k water
>>106816409Your English is suspect. I haven't read any of the rest of the thread and I will not be replying earlier but I can confirm that you are a smelly middle class immigrant pajeet. you fit the archetype in every way. know that no matter what you do in life, you will always be a stinky brown poo in the loo
>>106816409the original post i made was about macs usecase in the business - not for personal use (you still haven't given one). giving your employees macbooks is a frivolous purchase over a Dell windows machine for example. you're really struggling to stay on topic
>>106816442Don't worry lil retard, I'm posting from Gentoo right now, my mac is strictly for my work.
>>106816259this is why i use lzt.market for microsoft accountsfuck dem goys nigga
>>106816458there is no way you aren't some kind of third world bugman. can i get my usecase now? >>106816430honestly this sounds about right lmfao
>>106815702excelfusion 360ltspicethats just stuff that i dick around with as a hobbyist. there is plenty of autistic engineering software that wont run on windows.
>>106816501>as a hobbyistA want, not a need, I believe I posted this twice or thrice now, ESLnigger.
>>106814687>causing users to exit OOBE with a device that is not fully configured for useWhat possible configuring remains necessary?>you haven't configured an online account yet
>>106816442>>106816496>Your English is suspect.Care to analyze some specific cases in depth? Or is that just what redditors do nowadays where they claim that your perfectly clear English sentences are incomprehensible to them like it's my fucking problem and not your nigger brain that cannot read A2 level sentences?
I won't be surprised to hear in 2027 that all new Windows PCs ship with locked bootloaders.
>>106816533And I won't be sad that prebuilt cattle don't get to tinker with the hardware they paid for.
>>106816539you think custom PCs will survive till then? Hardware Attestation will make sure that doesn't happen.
>>106816547I'm not Intel fanboy so I don't have to worry about this.I bet you felt real smug posting those 2% "better" benchmarks, completely oblivious to the fact that 2% slower than too fast doesn't mean anything when compared to freedom.
>>106816539>fuck you got mineDude, how many of us switched to Linux because windows got frustrating? How many of us could have afforded to buy new hardware just to do that? Not to mention laptops. And what happens when your current computer wears out? You being unaffected on your current hardware does not make this okay.
>>106816522Mr Patel, please calm down>A2 level sentencesstrange way to put it, we just learn english here cause we grow up speaking it. doesn't really need to be grouped into grades unless you're sitting some kind of english literacy test. (noticing)
>>106815687>loonixfag has no arguments and processes to call others jeetsdil8
>>106814687I already dual boot, but i'll just ditch windows altogether if that is the only way forward. Linux on my desktop and mac as my laptop
>>106816563I'm not niggercattle, I use Gentoo, I read every single use flag and decide whether to enable it only after asking myself,>what's the usecase?Surely I'll have enough braincells left to buy hardware that works even after I'm done reading this dogshit braindamaging thread?
>>106815843>why would a company waste money handing out macbooks over something like a latitude when all their users are doing is sending emails, making spreadsheets, etc?Macbook air 15 at discount maybe. Are latitudes that much cheaper?
>>106814715>we all know what they wantand it's disgusting
>>106814687it will never actually become hard requirement because enterprise customers would be screwed, and therefore pajeetsoft would damage their own business.>b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b...No, I will not switch to linux. kill yourself tranny, join 41%, blast your head off. nigger.
>>106814952>paranoid retard using local accounts>no one drive backup>no easy sso in most servicesAll of that is a good thing though>brainlet tryhard, microsoft is a respectable company, what are you afraid of?Brown, shit-encrusted hands typed this post>>106814687>Autounattend.xml on installation drive>Fully automated setup, no Microsoft accountIt's really that easy. Windows ADK is free btw.
>>106814687They can even step back and make w11 with local account. I will stay using w10.W11 is a piece of shit. If W12 follows w11 I will move to loonix
>>106816561?? never posted any benchmarks of anything, haven't upgraded my PC in years, but I know they're really trying to fuck us in the ass and Attestation will come whether we want it or not
>>106816606I'll buy obsolete hardware if that's what it takes to keep my freedom, don't care.
>>106816593>enterprise customers would be screwedhow? what enterprise in this day and age doesn't have internet?
>>106816616This isn't about having internet, this is about having airgapped machines that can't have internet by choice and requirements derived from security policies, dumb mouthbreather.
>>106816612the point is that said old hardware won't be able to run anything in the future since it won't be verified as super safe and un-tampered to be allowed online
>>106816631Take your schizophrenic defeatist brainrot somewhere else, because CRTs haven't been produced for decades now and there are people who still use them.
>>106816637okay, see you here in 3 years if you can still post by then
>>106816624>>106816593So what?Will they actually be able to pressure M$?
>>106816643I still remember 5+ year old posts about TPM and how it will make Linux impossible to use and yet I'm still here, can you fuck off already you lil nigger monkey tranimal?>>106816653Funny that you wrote M$, because the $ goes through such airgapped systems owned by world's banks through privately owned datacenters and cables that no internet poojeet can send any data through and that obviously aren't exposed to public internet and you can't just fucking connect them to internet you dumb mouthbreather.
>>106816672you must be trolling if you don't see what is literally happening with the entire internet right now and all the push for accounts and verified shit "due to ai" which is a great excuse...
This is fine.
>>106814952epic bait xd
>>106816683You must be a demented amerilard because you seem to have forgotten that neither Russia nor China gives a fuck about what your mutt shithole thinks hardware should work like and there will always be systems running Gentoo.
>>106816672So, yes or no?Why wouldn't MS tell business to connect PS-s temporary for login and updates?
>>106814687Windows 10 doesn't have this problem.
>>106816746Because in this specific and very realistic scenario, said business directly decides whether microsoft's stocks will crash tomorrow when all microsoft related payments get blocked until microsoft allows to boot windows without internet access.What's so hard to comprehend, retard?
>>106815122All the most valuable services in the world already run on Linux, so the incentive is already there to find the vulnerabilities.
> Let's add your account"How about you fuck off," is my gut response to this buddy-buddy kind of languageLiterally:> Let's casually fuck this out in the ass, like it's nothingFuck these people
>>106816765Just install Gentoo then.
Wintoddlers coping with windows remind me of a typical low quality male who keeps getting nagged by his wife about opening their relationship daily until one day, despite repeatedly saying a hard no, he walks in on his wife being railed by Tyrone and having sex of her life.
>So what if she has sex with Tyrone? I wear condoms, and lately, we didn't even have sex anyway, so sexually transmitted diseases don't even affect me!
>>106814687>the only solution is to edit the image>tfw you're already getting custom win enterprise iso from different sources
>>106816814enjoy your malware tampered os
jeez so many trannies here
Golem maxxem
>>106816796Don't let your dreams be dreams buddy
>My wife took my credit card and overdrafted it AGAIN.>Well, she's my wife, and she supports me emotionally, whatever.
>>106814687this is a good thing, actuallyby giving MS your id and forcing you to have an account, we can verify you're old enough to use a computerhttps://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202520260AB1043#99INT
>>106816796>cuckold out of nowhere
>>106816755Any business that big and with that kind influence would have their own variant of commercial Linux or even their fucking OS. And they wouldn't give a shit for small players.
>>106816616And business machines just come with windows accounts using corporate employee info and company email by default, thats just the case with the machine the place I work at gave me.That anon is clearly unemployed or at least never worked in a big enough place such that they can give each employee an individual machine.
>>106816848Yeah, I'm sure banks totally don't use airgapped windows machines anywhere. Where do you delusional niggeroids come from?
>>106816821windows is a malware ridden cuckbox ootb, so i dont care about extra fags, i use it anyway
>>106816846see >>106816857, average user is a proud cuck.
>>106816593Yeah, I think what's missing here is that all this bypass shit only ever had to be done on the home edition. Pro and above lets you create a local account without issue and there are multiple supported automations to bypass OOBE for enterprise customers for mass provisioning etc. There's no reason to care about what limitations they force home users to deal with, no one should be running that version of the OS besides grandma and the like.
>>106816856And what power do you think a bank in Ethiopia would have over Microsoft?
>>106816890anon please
>>106816890I don't live in Ethiopia, so I don't know if it even has its own banks, all I know is that banks are a little bit higher on the food chain than microshit and you can go suck its cock somewhere else you retarded nigger.
Windows 11 doesn't really offer anything new it's mostly cosmetic changes over 10 with actually less functionality and worse is that it looks as if it's catering to macfags, I think I'll continue to use a dual boot setup, I'll keep 10 for office and games apps and use bsd or linux for web browsing I'm still waiting for xlibre to become part of the officially supported packages because I don't want to install a bloated display server
>>106816866ppl just dont care about stolen key press logs and complete recording of their activity mate. that's the reality.tbf you can boot up a vm, install pirated image there, build a custom image in the virtual environment, install that image on a burner computer and test it for outward connections and files which do not belong. esp if you have clean licensed image. it's still windows tho, you will get fucked somewhere regardless
>>106816930Yes, I am aware that I can boot up windows in a vm, yet I never had to do this in past 20 years.
>>106816857No point in pretending that linux isn't full of backdoors Do people really trust linus and his shitgang
>>106816955Prove it. All those that claim linux has backdoors but provide no proof glow so hard
>>106816152Any day now.11 will remain skippable just like 8 was.
>>1068169737 days in fact.
>>106816958Everyone knows what you goon to all day every day homo
>>106814846I also wanted to ask this.
>>106816856For sensitive stuff like that bank data centers generally use linux or some IBM os rather than windows. In bank systems the vast, vast majority of machines are connected at all times times sans backups, which more likely run linux or some IBM os in the case of mainframes.Banking is a dinosaur, you think the big server clusters use windows, much less 10 or 11? Fucking retard they dont even need GUIs at its all terminal or remote access. You never worked in an actual bank's IT and it shows. Only end user(employees and whatnot) machines use modern windows and they demand a constant connection for security and verification.
>>106816955loonix is pretty shitty too. i fucking hate all modern software, it's been better but now is pretty bad and gets worse. no improvements. it's going straight into hell.>>106816944it could be a second burner computer.
>>106816991I rest my case. Linux is the most secure platform and the reason most attempts at inserting backdoors have been detected.That's why glowies seethe so much at CHAD Linux users
>>106816996other than the usual bugs you get when you do major windows version updates, I think nothing, for now
>>106816507i dont need a computer for anything. it exists to fulfill wants.
>>106816982Ah yes, the horrifying EoL when absolutely fucking nothing of any importance actually happens.
>>106816911Anon, I'm not saying that big companies will not push MS. All I'm saying, a company big and influential enough to do that kind of move, might as well have their own freaking OS. You have no guarantee, the scenario you are describing, will happen. And you are displaying the same exact reason it might not: expecting someone else to do the work. All I did, is to point out that, this might not end in the way, you hope for.Screenshot this.Cheers.
>>106817017So stop acting like your life depends on windows, retard.
>>106814963it's an obvious joke combining things like "linux doesn't have viruses" and "it's difficult to run random programs with linux" into "it's difficult to even run a virus in linux". it's an extreme example and would only possibly be relatable/funny to someone who has spend only a day or two with linux (not more and not less)
>>106814687I only found out this was a thing recently when I bought a laptop for VCDS. What a stupid requirement. I returned it and bought a used thinkpad with windows 7 that smells like cigarettes and does the job with no friction.I did try to install a pirated copy of windows 7 but it wouldn't boot. Chatgpt said windows 7 was probably missing modern drivers for the usb or something like that on the modern laptop. It was a valuable lesson on never even upgrading my hardware or I'll probably have to use a rustranny kernel too.
microsoft account should be the least of your privacy concerns in current world.
>>106817095one paper cut at a time please
>>106814957I keep thousands of episodes of tv scripts saved on hand for occasions like these.
>>106817699base
>>106817699I don't watch slop.
>>106814687Who is using Windows in 2025?
>>106814687It's funny, because even a Chromebook will allow you to "Continue as a guest." You can use a Chromebook without ever creating a Google account, but you can't say that about Windows/Microsoft now :)
>>106814936>[... some ...] and crashedold obscure russian meme reference. this is a telegram post. fake ass story russian IT sissies pass around
>>106814687It's FUD. The answer file (unattended.xml), which is the only sensible way of installing windows will still work. They only remove the bypass methods in interactive installs (when someone opens cmd during install).TLDR people that installed windows from the original isos that don't know Rufus or any better will use MS accounts or drop Windows 11. The tech savvy people already use imaging tools and unattended installs so it doesn't matter. It's kinda impossible to remove local account, because ms account is not the same thing. For example you can't set up a server without a net user (local account).
>>106816762Seriously, if they’re gonna target a system, why target random users when AWS/GCP/Azure/all other cloud providers run linux?
>>106814957Are you ESL? It's not that uncommon.
>>106817972tell me you didn't read without telling me, running that does nothing now that's the new change
>>106814708next step is you pay a monthly/yearly fee
>>106814687>The walls are closing in.my big bloated cmd.bat will tear them hymen.
>>106814957It's very common, you're just retarded
>>106814687aannnnnddd what if I don't have an internet connection
>>106817699That's really cool, anon.
>>106818319Why would you need a computer without an Internet connection? Now face the wall and take your 6th booster.
>>106818329Because you don't need and may not have internet when using a computer
>>106818359Goyim shouldn't use computers without an Internet connection. That level of freedom can be extremely harmful.
>>106818368Thank you! I suggest you contact your local lawmakers about compute restrictions to curb terrorism, no one needs more than an i3 with no GPU at home. You should use cloud compute for anything more so we can all be safe.
>>106814747You guys need to start getting yourselves mentally prepared. Microsoft is dead set on turning Windows into a fundamentally AI based operating system. They're spending hundreds of billions on dedicated datacenters. That will not work unless every machine is logged in and connected to Azure with most of your data sitting in OneDrive. Make no mistake - that is the end goal here. Local accounts will very likely be a thing of the past before Windows 11 reaches end-of-life. And Windows 12 will be 100% locked down nonsense. They are 100% committed to AI shit and it is the perfect pretext to say "well, of course the AI is scanning everything. How else could it work if it didn't know about you?". They're not going to be playing nice any more. The era of private computing is over.
>>106814687I'm switching to linux, good bye to the jew, ahahahhaha
>>106818405>The era of private computing is over.And thank God for that.
>>106818405Chill, there are still hundreds of options.If Windows' lockdown subsystem becomes so entrenched into the OS so as to make it impossible to remove it then we'll use Win11 up until the last usable version and for the rest we'll move to Linux.As long as we can still buy a CPU, a motherboard and RAM we're good.
>>106814687Does installing without an internet connection no longer work?
>>106818433>As long as we can still buy a CPU, a motherboard and RAM we're good.You got your custom PC integrator license I hope?
>>106814846>what is stopping me from doing this?They'll just run you through the setup once you update.
>>106818433I don't even think Linux will be viable long term. The other shoe dropping is digital ID and age verification. It's coming from multiple place and in multiple forms all at once. At some point, you can bet someone will say "Hey, why isn't there just one convenient standard for all this?" And then of course that standard will be dictated by the corporations and that's all they will need to just say "well, you can't use Linux, it's not a trusted environment". And then that's it. I'm 90% sure that's where this all goes. <= 5 years.
>>106818485Take. Your. Meds.
>>106818451No, I just live in a turd world country were laws are not enforced.>>106818485Yeah, I don't think you're wrong. It's happening already in some ways were you can't use just a computer for certain tasks. My bank requires those fucking tokens from the smartphone app even when using my computer.
>>106814996>>106815231Based.Always hated Apple, to the point where I felt bad having to buy their thunderbolt adapters for something.All while Windows because far, far worse than MacOS for all the bullshit people hate Apple for. Local accounts are the default on Mac. You only need an account when trying to do something that needs one.M1 Macbook Air can be had for $300 now, and if that's still too much literally anything from 2012 onwards can be easily updated to a modern version. Even the last plastic macbooks run Sequoia fine.If you hate the current state of windows but don't want the headache of troonix, get a Mac.
>>106816389Wow, water's expensive in Mumbai! Must be the cost of removing all the poo
>>106814747Good. Please do.I’m setting up multiple windows 11 VMs to churn out volumes of constant and unceasing crap for their AI.I just added constant crash reports running in the background.
>>106818563>All while Windows *became far, far worse than MacOS
>>106816238I ran a windows 7 VM with an RX580 passed through on an i7 2600 with 16GB of RAM for years to play some stupid 22 year old mmo that had kernel anticheat.My trick was giving the VM 1GB of RAM but also setting up a 24GB zram device with zstd algo on the host to pass to the VM as a second hard drive which I formatted and set windows to use the full capacity for a page file shut off the VM, made a disk image of the zram device squashfs'd it down to a few kilobytes and then had a script to set up that zram and read the squashed image back into it before starting the VM again after rebooting the host.That let me get away with running multiple game clients in the VM and while windows was telling me 20GB of page file was in use zramctl on the host was usually reporting 6GB of actual RAM in use, my total ram use generally stayed under 12GB with this setup using the integrated graphics for arch linux and running all my other programs on it.It may not be as viable depending on what exactly you're doing newer versions of windows etc but it certainly worked well enough for me until I upgraded to a 3900XT with 64GB so if you're as hard pressed for cash as I was to upgrade you could give it a try.
>>106818508You've got your head in the sand if you don't think this is where it's all being steered. And rather quickly, based on what's happened this year:- California mandatory os-level age specification bill is on the governor's desk and will either be signed or vetoed by Sunday. It passed both houses unanimously.- EU digital identity app requires Play Integrity.- Sideloading being squeezed on Android.- UK Online Safety Act- Chat Control being voted on next week. And that's all just this year. They've been squeezing for a while now, but this year is where they decided to stop being gentle.
>>106818691Schizos have been saying shit like this for years now, nothing happened, and nothing will happen.
>>106818721I mean, all these things happened just this year. Tens of millions of people now have to provide ID to view porn. F-Droid has said the android sideloading changes kills them. You literally have to use a phone created by Apple or Google, with a mandatory account to even exist in the EU now because of the Digital Services Act. Microsoft stripping out more ways to create non-Microsoft account (this isn't even the first time they've done it this year). Concrete things are happening. It's pointless to pretend they aren't.
>>106818485you're right but you're missing one important thing, or maybe deliberately skipped it, I don't knowanyone reading this, ask yourself: why are you even here? what the fuck are you still doing here? what else would you be willing to give up on to still be here, on the Internet? it's already infested with niggers and shitskins as it is. at some point it's just no longer worth it
>>106814701Looks like I’m using via Rufus 25H2. It can still get around this.
>>106818845because irl is somehow even worse, it's also filled with not great stuff
>>106814687they will never force an account on enterprise editions>he doesnt use LTSCyikes
>>106814687I hope tech-illiterate normgroids suffer
>>106818940This kind of thinking harms all of us, good thing I'm a masochist.
>>106814687I think it's just their version of icloud so that Negroes can't just steal your laptop and get away with swapping your ssd.
>>106816765Clearly you've never had the passive voice.>Let's get your account addedOr the dreaded>We need to get your account added
>>106814687How have they not collapsed yet?
>>106814687I've had an account I made solely for my Xbox, I'll just use that.
>>106819031Good boy!
>>106817816Also true for Android. Even the most scummy locked down OEMs like Samsung let you just skip the account registration stuff and use your device without ever signing in. Yes, they're full of dark patterns and you can't use any of their (((services))) but you can use your device otherwise.This shit ms is trying to pull should be fucking illegal. What are the jeets over there thinking?Are they allowed to do it because ms is basically the government/military now?
>>106819194This isn't going to last much longer. The spread of mandatory digital ID schemes will allow google to force account registration at first boot, using legal requirements as the reasoning. Even if it's not required in your region, they'll just say "it's too complicated to manage otherwise". I think this is <= 2 years from now.
>>106818485That does feel inevitable, but to make it worse, just remember that there will always be a way out of it for businesses. I guarantee Windows Server 2026 or whatever will not have all these requirements, because it's bad for the economy if Microsoft stops companies from doing business. So you'll just need to spend ten grand on a local account licence or whatever, and suddenly none of these rules will apply to you.
>>106818721I thought the same way you did, right up until all my pornographic websites actually genuinely did block the entire UK. I can still bust a nut thanks to Opera's free VPN, but the classic pattern of "Orwellian fucks threaten to take your freedoms" -> "nothing actually happens because they are retarded" is sadly outdated now.The Online Safety Act probably costs millions to enforce, with all the new employees they will need to pay who are needed by Ofcom, and this means the government must have made a conscious decision to pay for them rather than stopping rape gangs and people-smugglers, or supporting the NHS.
>>106818845I would go out to see my friends, like people did in the '90s. But my friends will all still be indoors. So there's nothing out there for me. Unless we all quit this shit simultaneously, it's not going to work.
>>106818721>nothing happened, and nothing will happenexcept for the fact that it IS happening right now. With the UK shenanigans US is following closely already prepared to pass its own digital ID laws. Also other countries in the EU, Korea, China, India, etc. All already have obligatory digital IDs. You think this is a coincidence? The world order is already pushing hard to have everyone connected at all times. In 10 years or less, it'll be illegal (or simply just impossible to get) to have local, offline, private machines for personal usage.
>>106819444>or simply just impossible to getThis will be a big piece of the puzzle. The other thing Microsoft is going to push for with Windows 12 is full cloud-OS with thin terminal support only. They will push it very hard, but only near the end of the cycle will they make it mandatory. And once that's the case, there's no profit in producing consumer computing hardware any more. And poof, that's it. I think the window on that is 10 years though. Plenty of other endgame traps will have been sprung well before that.
>>106819497Yeah, and just by how cockily ms is pushing right now, you can tell they know that they can and will force their rules onto the users. It's not a business-customer thing anymore, they don't need money. This is just pure control.
>>106814952Nice try, rabbi.
>>106815717LTSpice is one of the few industry applications that runs perfectly on WINE with basically no configuration at all. >>106815702CAD software (only good solid modelling option is FreeCAD and it is still very clunky, plenty of good 2D cad solutions though (BricsCAD, BRL-CAD) and some audio production software.
>>106814687i will not. i will continue to use burner emails i bought from leaks and i will continue to use *nix based distros.
>>106816238Get more RAM, your machine is definitely capable of running VMs. You won’t be able to do GPU pass through without a second GPU though, so graphics will be kind of shitty unless you’re virtualising Linux (which has a pass through thing now I think)
>>106817912much easier to steal bitcoin from joe than do anything useful by exfiltrating private company data.
>>106819891Everybody I know that uses CAD software uses OpenSCAD, even on windows.
>>106815682This is a real issue, I won't invalidate itEspecially for certain CAD programs, creative/editing software, domain-specifc technical applications (PLC ladder logic sims for instance), etc.One can also not discredit the seamless 365 integration on Windows and MacOS, which is tailor made for the corporate world.But what I cannot understand is glazing Microsoft the way you are doing, when they are clearly fucking you and every one of their customers up the ass, hard. The only way things change is to advocate for alternatives (Linux) to increase market share. It would at the very least allow for Microsoft to ease up on their dystopian ambitions, if more people are given a viable alternative, stand up, and say "no, I'm good". Software support will naturally follow albeit slowly.Stop sucking billionaire dick you mong
>>106820062>The only way things change is to advocate for alternatives (Linux) to increase market shareThis cannot be repeated enough. The reason everything is in serious danger right now is in part because the Linux community has been so obnoxious and offputting to new users forever. It is better these days, but still not great. The end result is a market result small enough that it will be easy to justify draconian measures that simply lock it out. If we had 20% of the desktop market, it wouldn't be possible. But that's never going to happen now.
>>106820254Linux is such a great OS precisely because it filters subhuman niggercattle.
>>106820263Lot of good that's going to do you when it is unusable because it's locked out from everything in 5 years. Nice job, retard!
>>106820297Even 10 year old hardware can do everything I need it to, I genuinely couldn't care less. Locking out even more retarded niggers will only improve Linux for me.
>>106820263>great OS>everything must be compiled into a single blob because devs are too retarded to design a proper modular architecture
>>106820312But enough about Windows.
>>106820348nice vm bro
>>106820364But enough about your fear of breaking your hardware by installing Linux outside a vm.
>>106815217Why would you upgrade if you're not connected to the internet?
the windows shill that has been raging in this thread for the past 10 hours is a known jeet attention whore that has been outed as such previously. he does this in every OS related thread. just ignore him and stop feeding him the attention his parents never gave him
>>106820376nice try but no
>>106820393I actually enjoy teaching retards about Linux, I don't care if they read it, the act of writing it out itself is fulfilling.
why the fuck do i need a microsoft account
>>106820403>Literal wintoddler tourist babyduck who cannot figure out how to use a non-tranny distro outside a vm.Figures.
>>106820393>the windows shillIf people like this were actually paid, I'd feel better about it. But I suspect most of these guys are literally people who LIKE windows. This particular form of brain damage is very evident in the boomer class on reddit. They are impressed by the stupidest, most inane shit imaginable.
>>106814687still on W7. no problem for me
A computer is a modern necessity - to function in modern life you practically need one. Most people will by the $300 Acer laptop from Walmart with Windows on it and be done. They won't give a second thought to needing an account, telemetry, privacy, etc. This is the market MS caters to. The very, very individuals that actually realize what Windows is turning into (has turned into) -- MS couldn't give a shit less.
>>106820441>A computer is a modern necessitydepreciated by the smartphone
>>106814963>root>no permissionsThe root account is not omnipotent. Security measures apply irrespective of what your user account is called. AppArmor, SELinux and namespaces don't give a shit about your UID or user name.
>>106814767Imagine how many things like this exist in windows that were never caught because the pajeets at Microsoft aren't autistic enough to catch a sub-second difference in speed during their benchmark testing.
>>106817882Really?! What gave it away?
>>106814687idk bro when i was forced to install i just used enterprise and i didnt have to make an account with mossad
I hate cloud services so much is unreal. Giga corp wants to enforce full dependency to infrastructure they apply the policy to.
>>106820517I have none of that slop on my machine, my root account can actually do anything, if I wanted to wear a condom, I'd do it when fucking your mother.
>>106814687>I can always chop an ISO myself>Troonix for people who use a computer to browse the internet and redact documents>Folk always find patches or solutionsI feel nothing, you, are nothing
>>106820713>...Hardware Attestation...*exists*
>>106820741Yep. Proof that your average /g user is functionally retarded. They cannot think even 1 level beyond the basic facts they know. Certainly not when it comes to extrapolating in time. "This thing I've always been able to do, I will always continue to be able to do!" Just as retarded as your garden variety "um akshyually, Recall only works on Copilot+ PCs so if you don't have one, you're safe" redditor.
>>106814687>using windows 11
>>106814687Listen if MS demanded you get an ass implant that blocked your colon and led to eventual death, MS customers would definitely get it.Why is this shocking? Windows has become worse with every version since Server 2003, which was the last GOOD Windows. How could you be shocked at this development? You're the product you moron lol.
>>106818434It tells you to find the internet lmao
>>106820412so they can spy on you better and send you to goolag if you do anything bad.
>>106815682>>106815717>>106815749>>106815798>>106815807If those companies are so big and so serious, the jobs are so important and the amount of people affected is so big, why can't they crowdfund development of alternatives of these programs that work on Linux? Why suffer the humiliation?
>>106821278they can do that without you having an actual account, what I think this is more about is being able to say "look so many users!" to investors
>>106821326No it's about associating "anonymous" data with a human. The holy grail of Internet data brokers.
>>106814687Why do they want to force everyone to make an account?
>>106821451the world is controlled by christofascists so they have to make sure you're only masturbating to jesus and not bbw milfs. Everything you do on your "P"C must be monitored now.
>>106818691>California mandatory os-level age specification bill is on the governor's desk and will either be signed or vetoed by Sunday. It passed both houses unanimously.how is this supposed to be implemented by Linux
How long until redhat/gnome is online only?
>>106821504that's the neat part, it isn't, making linux obsolete on the desktop
>>106814957https://youtu.be/JXJmrYzjmIY?t=2064
>>106818485good, i will finally beat my 30 year long internet addiction.
>>106814687I don't even use windows but what about stuff like tiny11 doesn't that still work?
Why would you want to sync ALL your private, sensitive data across multiple devices under one federated account? That's called putting all your eggs in one basket. The whole point of using my PC is that its unlike a smartphone
>>106814937Yeah me too, and I pay for the family onedrive subscription. Shared with 5 people it's 20 euro's per month. I even use my onedrive everyday for work. Of all the big tech companies Microsoft actually offers something I use everyday and have real benefit for the average user. I showed my boomer parents libreoffice, said: what is this shit I want word and outlook. And here we are.
>>106822037Whoops per year*
>>106821868>my PC*this computer
Just installed Fedora KDE on Hyper-V. Seems to run pretty smoothly out of the box. Like, piece of cake. It's like a spiffy version of Windows or something. Is Linux really that easy
Windows 11 will implement forced DRM in the near future. You will not be able to install any software unless you buy it through the "Microsoft Store". You will also not be able to play .mpeg or any other type of movie file locally. You can only watch videos if they're being streamed with periodic kernel-level checks to make sure you're streaming with a verified RealID geolocated account. This will all begin to happen after Trump's term if not sooner
Is there a Linux distro that can run Fortnite? Unironic question, that's all it would take me to move
>>106814740The street shitters will learn.
