Why
It is imperative you move to flat shit or you're a stuck in the past CHUD
>>106817088The original logo is already flat
>>106817075why not
>>106817092noo saaar we ment ugly for good looks
I think this is what the logo is trying to represent.
Red goes fasta.
>>106817075oh the audacity!
>>106817075I expected more from the new logo desu, otherwise they seem to be doing a good job with Audacity.I hope we can find people to do the same with Gimp and Inkscape. Adobe is overpriced pajeetware and Affinity are almost certainly going the same route, but we'll see in three weeks.
>>106817489Gimp needs a layout overhaul. Functionality wise it's fine, but it can be confusing to navigate, and I say this as someone that's been using it for years. The search feature helps a lot.
>>106817733They ARE giving it a complete layout overhaul.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYM3TWf_G38
>>106818281>gimp
>>106817075>old logo headphones with sound going between them>new logo hey chatgpt make me 20 stylized flat logos that vaguely resemble headphonesThen they picked the worst one
>>106817489>I expected more from the new logoTotally agree.The old logo is so iconic, and the new one looks like Ai generated clipart. Not even the color makes sense.The logo was never the problem, and especially not after they "flattened" it, to make it look less like something from the 90's.There's actually so many people who have made awesome new designs for the logo, such as picrel, where a guy (seemingly unprompted?) made an entire visual identity overhaul.How we ended up here, so far from the original source, is still a mystery to me.That being said, it seems the devs are still taking in suggestions, so go and voice your concerns there I guess.https://forum.audacityteam.org/t/audacity-4-logo-redesign-thread/149389/38>I hope we can find people to do the same with Gimp and Inkscape.This would be a dream come true.GIMP has so much potential, but is suffering from the same issues as Audacity; dragging around old code in every update.Somehow I actually think it would be good if GIMP was bought by a big company, just so they could finally steer in the right direction.I wanna see GIMP be an OpenSource alternative to Photoshop, and not just another image editor.
>>106817075>Kwave exist???
>>106818414never heard they're changing their logo, but i like the one in your picture
>>106817371kek
>>106818414>Somehow I actually think it would be good if GIMP was bought by a big company, just so they could finally steer in the right direction.it's funny how some things were destined to be first, and others to be last. and by this mean those who make the beginning of something and those who make the end of it. in gimp's case, what they spawned wasn't an image editor, they wanted to make an image editor, but there wasn't a good gui toolkit for that in linux back in 1995... so they made their own, to compete with the proprietary qt and motif... called gimp tool kit (gtk). this in turn resulted in someone forking that (gtk+) for use in making a fully-free desktop environment (gnome), and nowadays gimp doesn't even keep up with gtk+ versions.it's funny how gimp's biggest contribution was not even what it set out to do. though thinking about it, i can think of several other things which ended up like that
>>106818543They're changing logo for their new "Audacity 4", which is the entire app rebuild from ground up, with a much newer framework, and many new features/workflows.There has been a lot of redesigns of their logo in the past, and with this new relaunch, many talented designers has come forward to pitch in.Here's some more suggestions, which I find really nice and pleasing, whilest keeping true to the original logo. Something that can not be said about the red one, which they've temporarily used.
>>106817075the answer:
>>106818414>How we ended up here, so far from the original source, is still a mystery to me.We ended up here because Muse Group hired an outside designer to make it match their other logos. The new logo seems to be based solely on fitting into the lineup.
>>106818735tf is muse group
>>106817075the audacity of these graphic designers
Sneedacity would never.
>>106818750The company that bought out audacity. It's still open source, but they control the logo and website, and they lead the development. It's currently being led by the same dude that leads musescore.https://www.youtube.com/@Tantacrul
Why not?
>>106817733>Gimp needs a layout overhaul. Functionality wise it's finei installed gimp 3.0 specifically because i was told it added an outline text tool, and when I used it i discovered it's basically an "inline" tool and does the exact opposite of what anyone would want. gimp is just another one of those shitty FOSS programs which is maintained by coders who don't listen to users or even use it themselves
>>106818750>ultimate-guitar.com creates website for viewing guitar tabs in 1998>site blows up over the next 10 years>in 2013 they start acquiring other websites/projects>acquires MuseScore in 2017, which is the most popular site for creating music scores>they rebrand their parent company from Ultimate Guitar to Muse Group>suddenly too much money to burn>investors are seeing stonks>continues buying spree>finally acquire Audacity in 2021
>>106818873Yeah that's beyond retarded, but what's arguably even more retarded is that they actually fucking have a proper outline tool, it's just under filters as a drop shadow. If you set the position to 0 0 and blur to 0 the drop shadow functions as an outline, and yet they still decided to do the inline shit. It's maybe one of the most anger inducing design decisions they've made for me
>>106818735Funny thing is, my eyes glaze over the other icons but immediately pick up on audacity. Almost like having a very distinct icon is FUCKING USEFUL.Still not nearly as retarded as adobe's redesign.
>>106818657I still think the original one is fine, but I vastly prefer any of these over the retarded red one.
>>106819098This one sort of makes sense, because the one of the left looks like a 90s logo and they wanna be seen as a more "legitimate" browser. I still prefer the old logo btw, don't get this confused with an endorsement of the new one, but at least I can understand why they'd change it.
>>106819118>picGraphic designers confirmed for not having any soul at all. I hope AI replaces them soon.
>>106819145Anon you understand that AI won't change shit right? The designs are still going to have to be approved by the same mouthbreathing retard that approved those designs.
>>106818657>entire app rebuild from ground upi guess they never heard of not trying to fix something that isn't brokenwhy not.... make a new fucking app and not call it audacity????
>>106819118it's because of round corners. they blended in
>>106818735You're right. That's probably what happened.Picrel is apparently the logo they decided to move forward with, which is a shame.I actually don't hate their UltimateGuitar logo, but that's because it pays tribute to the original one (at least the one I remember).I don't feel like this new Audacity does that at all. Where the fuck is that salmon color even coming from...All of their other logos are really bad, and not at all memorable.
>>106819118>acrobat>creative cloud(?)>idk>acrobat but harder to read>flash but harder to read>programming acronyms or somethingfrom the third row i can only assume they're abbreviated chemical elements
>>106819203You should really go and watch the video from one of their development leaders. It gives a lot of insight into why they're doing what they're doing.https://youtu.be/QYM3TWf_G38Basically it boils down to them still dragging around a ton of of code written 20 years ago.Since the code is so convoluted, you end up breaking completely unrelated things, when trying to implement something new.He also touches on this whole "old users vs new users" dilemma.To you and me, Audacity looks and works great. But that's because we've grown used to it, and all of it funny little quirks.To a new user, who has never seen the program before, getting started with it can be completely overwhelming, since there are so many buttons and settings and menus and submenus. Just dragging around a clip requires you to know the program, and it's intuitive at all.Again, feel free to watch the video above. He explains a lot of things, and showcases how they're solving these issues, so that the program is both familiar to old users, as well as being welcoming to new ones.
I still have my 2.4.2 executable and I will die with it.
>>106819237at times it feels like every one except icon designers know what an icon is supposed to doi need to be able to spot an icon from a sea of other icons. this means it has to be UNIQUE and it has to be RECOGNISABLE. which is the OPPOSITE of making them all look THE FUCKING SAME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31PtYw7WeLUI feel like 10 years later this is still gonna be relevant
STOP spamming your shit here IRISH PRICKi will FUCKING GUT YOU
>>106819237i dont like this but it kinda works, it even looks like a little acheeky
>>106819291the irish prick doesnt explain anything, the only point hes really getting across is>we bought audacity for its name and solely its name"technology deficit" is doublespeak for unsalvageable
>>106817371goddamnit there goes my sides
>>106817371lmao
>>106819291>BUTTONS BADi found it trivial to learn when i was 14
>>106819291Well damn, there goes the only good audio editor.
>>106819291If it's this seriously fucked wouldn't it be wise to start from scratch?
humiliation ritual
>>106817075I don't like flat shit and I don't really like the new icon BUT the old icon always looked too childish imo.Maybe they could give the new icon a gradient or something.
>>106821758you must have jumped for joy when every mcdonald's was turned into a grey cuboid
>>106821758How is it childish?
>>106821647Nah, they're just porting the musescore UI to it and revamping the audio features underneathI actually like the new UI a lot, just the icon is bugging people (Perhaps that was the point, get people looking at the update kek)
rare merchant
>>106822558The funny thing is that if you flip the icon horizontally like that it almost starts making sense because you can vaguely see an "aud" that way
>>106817075It reflects how their souls have become lost. The soul is sucked out of the logo in accordance.
>>106818657Any of those is catchier and far more tasteful than that all red thing.
>>106818668>>106822558What do sand people have to do with anything?>>>/x/>>>/pol/
>>106819291>old users are just used to it, it's too much for new usersthat doesn't make sense. old users were new users to begin with as well, how did they become old users in the first place? i hate this weak excuse to over-simplify programs
The only real issue with the old logo is that the blue is literally just blue, RGB 0/0/204 to be exact. Doesn't look great in general and borderline invisible on any dark background.That's reason enough for a redesign, but even a hue shift would be better than this shit.
heres my vote for their new logo
>>106825514fire logo anonalso my first reply
>>106817075Because the original logo's waveform is too sharp with small details, which looks bad on high PPI display.
>>106817088>>106817075All soul must be removed
>>106818657Those are really good
>>106817075why do we have only 1 major open source audio editor? it seems like a fun project, it's strange so few people are choosing to make one.
>>106825779looking at alternativeto, there's a handful of other foss audio editors, along with a handful of audacity forks
>>106817075you faggots always leave all context out of redesigns. the audacity logo change is part of the broader change across all muse group productshttps://www.mu.se/post/muse-group-rebrand
>>106826112no one on g cares about other muse group shit
>>106826120>ask why>give answer>no one cares kill yourself
>>106826120Anyone who plays guitar has used Ultimate Guitar at least once. It's arguably more relevant than Audacity.
>>106817075amogus
>>106826149>Anyone who plays guitar/g/
>>106818657The bottom on here is literally perfectkeeps the soul of the old logo while moving away from the shitty Clipart artstyle
>>106817075To make it fit in with the other programs muse group has ruined
>>106826175Yeah, most men play guitar. Far more than the number of men doing audio editing in any case.
>>106817075The original icon is too busy. However, in this case they have failed with their redesign because the identity of the original has not been carried over.
>>106826292>identityheh, chud still doesn't understand how proboemstic that is
i'm going to hazard a guess that none of the developers who were responsible for making audacity popular are working on it anymore
>>106825751what? why would high ppi struggle with detail?>>106826112they're awful
>>106819311but 3.0.2 is the last version from Dominic Mazzoni
>>106826149ultimate guitar was good and consistent for decades, then was suddenly enshittified. if this is normal muse group behaviour, audacity is fucked.
>>106817075Literally just could have done this.
>>106826392Because of scaling.
>>106826475sounds like your OS uses a retarded resampling method for enlarging icons
>>106818936How long until enshittification? Wasn't there some controversy with Musescore too? (I forgot and just use some old version that works fine)
>>106818842The same dude is a Microsoft employee BTW.
>>106826488>Wasn't there some controversy with MusescoreManyMost egregious is probably that they charge to download most filetypes from their website, that they have absolutely no rights to.When open source devs made workarounds, they both sent lawyers after them and actively tried to ruin their lives.Muse group gives zero shits about open source and only touts it when it earns them good advertising. Of their properties, only musescore and audacity are open source, and likely only because they started that way before acquisition.
>>106826371Tell me about proboemstics. I'm all ears and eager to learn.
>>106826475Just make it a svg file and it'll scale perfectly to any resolution. If anything it should look better at high resolutions
>>106818643and now both gimp and gtk are garbage that hold down linux
>>106819098>>106819142>makes sense, because the one of the left looks like a 90s logo and they wanna be seen as a more "legitimate" browseronly 90's software is legitimate software
>>106826112They all look like soulless garbage and belong in the deepest circles of hell.
This isn't /gd/
>>106826112>read the top one as Ni instead of M, and immediately thought NiggerMaybe I'm on this place too muchThose are all godawful
>>106826978>>106826112
>>106826112It still sucks balls though
>>106819291>To a new user, who has never seen the program before, getting started with it can be completely overwhelming, since there are so many buttons and settings and menus and submenusIsn't that going to be the case no matter what audio program you're going to use?Whether I drop into shotcut or I drop into premiere, I'm going to be overwhelmed because this shit isn't for layman. You're going to have to FUCKING LEARN.Unless you expect to just drool some retarded instructions to an LLM and it magically shits out exactly what you had in your damage brain.
>>106827047I kept trying to read the bottom row for like a minute before realizing it's just the original icons left in their spots
>>106817075>canary in the coalmine for when something becomes shitty
>>106817371It's a Picasso painting.
>>106827592..same...
The Muse website has a different logo for Audacity
>>106818827Most of Sneedacity's PRs are localization updates.
>>106827587>don't expect any logical consistency >just memorize how to do stuff by poking it, getting frustrated, then searching the Internet how to do itFOSStard: exhibit 1
>>106826504>iswaswas an Ubuntu employee even longer than at MS
>>106817371marge I'm confused
>>106819291>You should really go and watch the videofuck off
>>106826504every time
>Audacity gave in to the gayI suppose some of the devs enjoy butt stuff. Also it looks like a logo of a company who is about to roll in subscriptions, new pricing systems and drop the free model.>Audacity 4 my niggas, get now at 70% off, $49.99
>>106817075never using this garbage again after discovering that they force you to install their new shit version if you launch an older version of audacity, even if it's portable, the new garbage doesn't work and broke my audio drivers, fuck these kike-ass niggers.
>>106826112>it's okay that it's changing into indistinguishable shapes, because it's supposed to sit alongside a bunch of other indistinguishable shapesdoesn't that make it worse? how the fuck are you supposed to tell any of these apartaudacity is an audio editor where you primarily view wavelengths, therefore the logo is a wavelength within a pair of headphones. i don't care if it's busy, it's still more straightforward than any of those other icons will ever be
>>106817075>Audacity 4 will not be a DAWFine, but it's 2025.Is there any FOSS DAW that doesn't suck ass?
Sibelius crashed.
>>106829904Audacity 6 will be a bad DAW.
>>106829350>the logo is bad because it doesn't represent the product
>>106819291God this guy is basedDesigners should always have tyranny over all codemonkeys, they can't be left alone for a second without raping a decent concept into unusable freetard looking garbage with muh implementation issues or some other nigger tier excuse
>>106817088right when flat is dying and corps are moving towards glassy neumorphism
>>106827882Still far more tasteful than that all red junk.
>>106817075trans ideology
>>106832708>muh ebil freetard boogeysLets not pretend that win11 by durgasoft isn't unholy mess.
>>106818657I like the bottom one
why is audacity still better than adobe audition
>>106818873>gimp is just another one of those shitty FOSS programs which is maintained by coders who don't listen to users or even use it themselvesit is not. it has everything. skill issue. gimp was always awesome.
>>106834918lmfaowhen was the last time you used gimpwhen was the last time anyone used gimplying ass motherfuckerI would use literally anything before I would use gimpyou don't even know what people use gimp forneither do the authors, apparently.
>all they can talk about is the logoI wish I was smarter to give a concise quip about the retardation of the average poster on here. The last thread about the logo also maxed out. What a bunch of no-knowledge posers. It truly is a board for consumers and desktop show offs.
>>106817075>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYM3TWf_G38>Cloud>Get effects>Share Audio>Publish>Mozilla logo "lovely>>106818735Once an icon match others, it renders the purpose of icons – to be an immediately recognisable and distinct visual shorthand for easy access – pointless.
>>106817075https://www.ocenaudio.com/
>>106836248proprietary
>>106829904LMMS is a good starting point before moving on to the big boys DAW
>>106836292Who cares, it works You're a loonix troontard
>>106829904Sadly no.
so, what is the alternative now?no doubt that the new ui will be bloated, i've yet to see a flat shit redesign that actually consumes less resources than the old one
>>106817733this being said why do foss applications not have ui standards to all look the same by default but have loads of customisability later? like gimp should just look like blender's ui, and so should audacity's (or not blender but you get the point).
>>106836912Lurk more newfag
>>106832708"Designers" are mostly overconfident idiots with big egos who think they're the next Steve Jobs and push retarded ideas like flat design and invisible scrollbars, they are largely responsible for how much of a shitty experience it is to use a computer today
>>106835238I use gimp regularly.I hate how gimp is designed.
>>106837146Because they're made by a bunch of unconnected people?
>>106837163helpful as always
