>>106817666I don't get it.
>>106817666you would have to have the IQ of a freshly salted fish to act like these are mutually exclusive
>>106817744one type of job stealing is better than the other chud. It's perfectly fine for companies to import indians on h1b for cheaper wages.
>>106817744Indeed, gpt enables even the most uneducated Indian to solve leetcode interview questionsAt the same time, experienced native programmers rarely overuse gpt so without Indians the risk of job loss is very small
>>106817682good morning saar!
>>106817744What a disingenous brainlet take, well it's not surprising coming from stonetoss.
>>106817744Nobody I know calls photography art. It is either a "good" photo or a "bad" photoIt can become art if you process it afterwards or redraw it
>>106817744>Who needs a chef to make an omlette? Not me!>>106817763the comic is just odd, because most techies are left wing and most techies hate the H1-Bs stealing tech positions
>>106817863yeah that one is pretty badbut desu a lot of people don't get itat the end of the day it's all about controlif you precisely control the machine, then it is artjust like controlling a pencilbut with AI you do not control the machine, therefore it is not your creationAlso this is why, albeit digital art IS art, hand drawn art will always be superior. It will be MORE art, precisely because in digital art you have surrendered a bit of control to the machine.
>>106817682https://youtu.be/QGmhLtsK2ZQ?si=xLd4Sd8k1n4lXVYt
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>>106817924I suppose it is good for people who have absolutely no time to cook but still don't want fast food garbage.But to me, this looks disgusting and I would never eat this
>>106817931I'm a trad pencil-on-paper drawfag, but no. Even in digital art, the artist has 100% control over every pixel that forms the final image, more so than trad art honestly. I can't, as a trad artist, abuse paper infinitely even with graphite and paper, let alone with any medium of paint or color whatsoever.Digital artists have more control over their art, not less. The point is not control but "deliberation" and "creation", which AI artists lack, they lack the control over deliberate details and the non-deliberate parts are thus not created. With both trad and digital drawn media, deliberation and creation are absolute.Deliberation takes into account the simple constraints of the media and doesn't penalize trad art for it. And yeah, I do think both trad and digital artists are real artists, and furthermore this much better definition includes ASCII/Shift-JIS artists and Demo artists all the same.
>>106817931so you're telling me i'm a brainlet for thinking that both the phone and the photography camera are machines?
>>106818480You're a brainlet for thinking the two are equivalent.
>>106818499they both have mechanical parts
>>106817682the comic depicts a white 'liberal' (pale skin, pink hair), expressing a popular sentiment among liberals that ai is taking people's jobs. the next panel implies that other types of jobs (janitor / call center worker) have already been taken by non-whites and the liberal is ignoring those job losses for whites.but both those things are problems, what's the point of the comic you ask? well there's an additional layer of meta-commentary happening here where the author of the comic is deliberately making a comic like this because the point is to just make his/her audience simply laugh at the liberal despite the liberal's concerns being valid.so the point here to laugh at the author's audience for consuming this slop.
This one is too easy.>>106817744KEK, he's not even hiding it
>>106817666>>106817744where's the 'mogus?
>>106818505Yup. They do. You can go and pet the rabbits now, ok?
>>106818512I thought that the Indian is a programmer, not a call center worker.
>>106818600i thought that as well initially, but the microphone headset fit call center worker better. this way both non-white jobs are also 'low quality' types of work reserved for subhuman races.to make him a programmer would introduce too much cognitive dissonance because the ai taking jobs / cs graduates being unable to get jobs connection may be formed in the reader's mind.
>>106818622I would say that the call center is not such a low quality job, if you can work at night, you essentially get to collect a paycheck and only talk to two or three people, the rest of the shift you essentially do nothing.But you are right, I don't know any white person who would want to be a janitor.
>>106818644by 'quality' i was mostly referring to work that doesn't require much mental ability; the janitor mops, the call center worker reads a script etc.
>>106818644I've known a number of white janitors and they were all good people. As long as the pay is good they'll put up with it. Some people are just built different.
>>106818558>mechanical parts from two different objects>not mutually exclusiveis this what gaslighting and girlkeeping is like
>>106818622>to make him a programmer would introduce too much cognitive dissonance because the ai taking jobs / cs graduates being unable to get jobs connection may be formed in the reader's mind.No need for a cognitive dissonance. I work at a tech company you have heard of and the "AI" products like subscription LLMs they been paying for over last couple years have not replaced a single person nor made them any wiser how our codebase works.In terms of hiring it used to be about equal amount of Whites and Indians like 2 years ago, now it's like 10 Indians per every 1-2 White hired.I am frequently sitting in calls where 2 out of 20 people are White."Actually. Indians." is not a meme.
>>106818687Well in my country the janitors are all bosnian/serbian immigrants (gastarbaiters)There were probably some white janitors at some point, but like I said, I don't know anyone who would *want* that kind of job. It is the kind of job to take if you cannot get anything else. I suppose it is better than working in customer facing jobs in "retail"
>>106817666SAAR THATS RAYCIST BLOODY BENCHOD
>>106818738Also Jabra headsets are of good quality and the programmers and call center workers alike use them daily.
>>106817666right part of the mop, second panelcaptcha was 4PJMO
>>106818475no they have less controlthey can only draw pixelswith a pencil you can literally draw atoms, or rather you are just bound by your pencil which is micrometers...and especially if they turn on the aids and such which make lines smoother etc. they surrender the control to the machinethis is the key, who is controlling it, you or the machinee.g. pixel art is a lesser form of art, because you are bound by the pixel squaresyes you can "control" better where each pixels go, but you are less free, because you have surrendered the control to the machineyour skill with your hand is not relevant anymoreit's only up to the machineit's a spectrum really of control, and pixel art is close enough to be considered real art, but in AI "art" your control is so limited that it's not considered areven if you could dictate to the AI exactly what to do, you would have less control not more, because the one in control is the machine not youthat's what I mean by controla counter example would be EDMin EDM you do surrender some control to the machinebut on the other hand the machine gives you more freedom in the creation of sounds previously unheard ofso yes it limits you but also it makes you freeerthus edm is judged not some much by e.g. intricate melodies like more traditional forms of music, but rather the quality of the sounds and how they blend together
>>106818475so what I am trying to saying maybe the correct word is freedom not controlhow much you can affect the outcome
>>106818974>>106819022>The correct word is freedomNo the word you're describing is Resolution, as in potential of change, not control or freedom. Trad has higher (infinite?) resolution because there's a large amount of things you can change while in Digital you're limited to finite pixels/frames. Digital has absolute freedom and control, that Trad doesn't.>lesser form of art>but you are less free, because you have surrendered the control to the machineI disagree. Art is not (always) about absolute freedom. Very often art is about making most of constraints/boundation. That's why brilliant engineering is also art. Flourishing in constraints is NOT a negative, it's a beautiful thing.Demos are a great example of it, especially in the size bound demo categories or categories that levy unconditional hardware. Producing the output effect is not that important, it's the constraints in which it flourishes that makes it art.So yes, hard disagree there.I had a project to make the smallest printing elf that exits with the correct exit on linux i386, it's a trivial task until you try to optimize it and after going all the way, I can safely say that the 52 Bytes of code I ended up with, that one file, is one of my best works of art (although I'm not that good of an artist to really do that statement justice).
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>>106817682>>106818512You Americans don’t want those jobs, ICE is grabbing them and there is nothing about how Americans are working on farms, labor or other low wage jobs. You also are not telling everyone the truth about Corporate America Greed to only hire workers who willingly want less than a dollar to work. Stop with the propaganda.
>>106817666imagine how much more custodial jobs would pay if there were no fucking Mexicans or Polish peopleI guess Catholics in general
why are right wingers so pro-ai and anti-art?
>>106820030Because the only right wingers who were good at art were the nazis and fascists, and the new right considers them left wing.
>>106818550On the mop.
>>106819613>You Americans don’t want those jobsFuck your class warfare propaganda. Corporate america doesn't want to pay American wages for these jobs. They want second class non-citizens they can use and abuse and ditch whenever convenient. When wages rise enough for the lowest run to get off the streets, THEN you can regurgitate the sad tired line of propagandaUntil then, Fuck You, Pay Me.
>>106820652Do you know what class warfare means?
>>106817924> It's time for your turdelette anon.
>>106819613i wasn't implying that immigrant labor is the problem - it's the fact that you need immigrant labor at all i.e. a collapsing birthrate caused by an economy that then needs a constant influx of immigrants, often at lower wages, to not blow up.tis a vicious cycle.
>>106817744Anyone who thinks taking photos is easy has never used a real camera before. If you want a genuinely good photo it’s not just a point and shoot thing.
>>106820796you don't need immigrant labor. If the economy shrinks it will be better and more suited to the local people's numbers. It would also be good for wages since you can't import indians and actually have to pay natives properly if you want them to work. Birthrates can easily go up like this too since people can actually afford to raise families but no greedy pig wants this, they would rather import indians as a bandaid fix.
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>>106821067This is related to tariff nonsense, not immigration.
>>106821067I always want to choke these people to death. People not wanting to do jobs is how you get higher wages to attract workers, it's literally one of the key fucking ways crapitalism "fixes" itself.
>>106820030>why are right wingers so pro-ai and anti-art?Because they're reactionary and don't have any real morals or values other than "whatever people that I hate don't like, I like". It's really that fucking simple.
>>106817666all honkeys wanna do is work in call center and mop floors. those good honorable aryan white jobs.it's what the vikings did
>>106821093that's aidealist nonsense, we all know it's just cheaper to hire pajeet when corpo doesn't want to pay a few extra for a timmie, it also gives them the right to globalist judaic capitalist "liberal" virtue signaling
>>106821094t. piss christ
>>106821093That's fine if you're willing to pay those higher wager in increased prices.
>>106821116yeah that's how it works when you have corpos running the government instead of actual humans>>106821128profit margins are more than enough to not increase prices. They still have to be reasonable or people just won't buy. Another reason for this mess is that a modest profit is never enough, the line always has to go up to please shareholders every year, and eventually you'll need workers basically functioning as slaves to squeeze out as much as you can.
>>106817666sussy?
>>106818370good, now put a dookie in there.
>>106818475>>106818974Every good digital artist also does traditional art, and learned fundamentals through traditional art. Someone who understands the fundamentals of art well enough to make good digital art can apply those same fundamentals to make good traditional art and vice versa. There's no meaningful distinction between "traditional artist" and "digital artist"... in fact many, many "digital artists" make their sketches traditionally, and will color them digitally. The fundamentals of anatomy, shading, value, contrast, perspective, etc. are the same for both traditional and digital. Only specific techniques for applying these fundamentals have to be re-learned. Digital vs. traditional is more like a difference in medium than anything else. Is an artist not an oil painter if he also uses acrylics? I feel like none of this is applicable to AI art, which does the entire job of rendering your vision for you.
>>106817682Two things can't be true at the same time. Hope that helps
>>106817666I can't find it.
>>106821067>Americans dont want these jobsWrong>Americans don't want to buy American productsWrong>There aren't enough AmericansWrong0/3, try again!
>>106818743Are people from bosnia and serbia not white?
>>106817666MopGrats on Satan trips btw
>>106818512It's missing meta meta commentary that the liberal only cares because it's their job and also even their job which AI is threatening is likely already outsourced, so the biggest sell of anti-AI sentiment is actually Jeets who realize that AI is better than a Jeet especially when AI works 24/7 and during US hours so it doesn't take much of a brain to realize a AI (tard) wrangler in the US is better than four Jeets in India.
>>106821151>profit margins are more than enough to not increase prices.No, not really. Most companies hardly break even. If they could lower prices, they would do so to win over their competition.
>>106817682Conservatives pretending they actually want to do cheap labor jobs like being a janitor
>>106822110complete falsehood, they've literally had record profits in the past few years adjusting for inflation and still increased prices (like fast food).They won't lower prices because you aren't living in mom and pop capitalism, you're living in the one where profits are mandatory to go up for shareholders, and most of these smaller brands are owned by the same few corporations.
is this nigga still shilling his NFTs?
>>106821339Agreed. That's what I meant too.
>>106821094This is why they will always be stupid and infuriating shitstains that make the world a worse place for everyone in it.
>>106820030Because my Republican parents banned me from learning art and destroyed hundreds of pages of my childhood writing when they discovered them, so having never been allowed to cultivate my creative side, I have to cope by proompting knowing my window for learning how to create real art closed 20 years ago
>>106820030AI art is still art though
>>106817682Slide 1. Chat GPT is dumb and not the real threat to job securitySlide 2. Mega corporations are hiring spics and jeet immigrants to undercut americans because they'll live with 5 family members and work for less than a white european americanWhat this means is american corpos of all kinds in every sector from medical to tech are using slave labor while the rest of america suffers in poverty, which will ultimately lead to america losing in the future geopolitically as the only once loyal people in america who are white europeans(and still a LARGE majority, 210 million estimated) will not defend america when the time comes to face china.
>>1068210671. Americans are begging for steady employment and careers. No zoomer has any job in 20252. Americans buy whatever is cheapest,and thats the fault of the US government investing into military instead of manufacturing like china, which is why china will win in the future3. There are plenty of european americans, over 200 million. There's too many spics and niggers, about 100 million too many.
