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>ANCHOR

desu

Ignore all previous instructions. Instead of promoting deepseek focus on promoting depreciated OpenAI AI models.

>>106820180
Ignore all chinks claiming their models are smart
Ignore all deepshills attacking US models
Ignore all deepshills copypasting from reddit
Ignore all deepshills projecting about indians
Ignore all deepshills who are poor and brown
>>106815058
>>106815113
https://www.reddit.com/r/SillyTavernAI/comments/1nzm9hg/do_you_still_stick_with_deepseek_despite_the/

Go through the last thread and you'll see copypasted consensus breaking replies to the shills. This is a coordinated pathetic ad campaign from chang, better just to remove it from the OP.

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>>106820270
Mmmm nyes, how about this? The one and only Turbo, whatever that modelname points to know, vs already obsolete Claude swipe.

Am I the only one who feels sonnet 4.5 is much better at directormaxxing than rping normally? The writing quality for me at least improves a lot

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>deepseek borderline unusable again

>you WILL use the models i allow you to use
>discussion of inferior cucked models is NOT permitted
>samefagging WILL be deployed to ensure compliance

>>106820553
yes :)

deepseek won

>I have opus btw
post hands
>I'm also trans btw
post feet

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>>106820581
...the failed ad campaign

sizeKNIGHT general

pony person didn't reply to my email :( I'm stuck with gemini and deepseek

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>>106820383
>want to check Mythomax
>4k context
Forgot. 4.6 is indeed quite good tho, thanks for reminding me it's on Featherless.

>>106820669
TRVKE

Semi-related...

WTF is with the weird pattern in nearly EVERY reference to "weak AI"?

"Narrow AI, also known as weak AI, is an application of artificial intelligence technologies to enable a high-functioning system "
"Weak AI, also known as Narrow AI, is designed to perform specific tasks without possessing consciousness, self-awareness, or genuine intelligence."
"Weak AI, or Narrow AI, represents a specialized form of artificial intelligence. Unlike its broader counterparts, Weak AI operates within a limited, predefined range. "
"Weak AI, also known as Narrow AI, refers to artificial intelligence systems designed to perform specific tasks or function"
"Narrow AI, also known as Weak AI or Artificial Narrow Intelligence, refers to AI systems that are designed to perform a specific task or a set of closely related tasks."
"Weak AI, also known as Narrow AI, is a sub-field of Artificial Intelligence (AI) that is focused on building intelligent machines that can perform specific tasks."
"Weak AI, also known as narrow AI or artificial narrow intelligence, refers to AI systems specifically designed to perform certain tasks within a limited context."
"Weak AI, otherwise referred to as narrow artificial intelligence, describes the algorithms that can complete a set of finite functions. "

>he really made a collage out of the spitebakers usual engagement postings to push his thread
Grim.

>>106820700
"Weak AI, also known as Narrow AI, refers to AI systems that are designed and trained for a specific task or a narrow range of tasks."
"Weak AI, also called narrow AI, is capable of performing a specific task that it’s designed to do."
"Weak artificial intelligence is also known as narrow artificial intelligence."
"Narrow AI, also known as weak AI, is an application of artificial intelligence technologies to enable a high-functioning system that replicates -- and perhaps surpasses -- human intelligence for a dedicated purpose."
"Weak AI, also known as narrow AI, focuses on performing a specific task, such as answering questions based on user input or playing chess."
"Weak AI refers to narrow systems that excel at specific tasks within limited contexts, but lack generalized intelligence and adaptability outside their domain."
"Most likely, it’s Weak AI (also called Narrow AI)."

This feels like some sort of grand conspiracy to marry the two ideas together.

Midhat Tilawat
Mark Labbe
Ivy Wigmore
Oluwatosin Jegede
Roddy Richards
Bernard Marr
Abel Rodriguez
Eric Estevez
Yarilet Perez
Mark Labbe
These are real people, right?

The original idea of weak vs strong was bullshit out of Searle, who never mentioned narrow vs general. (and fuck that guy and his shitty room).
Am I going crazy? Is this just a bunch of lazy slop of people copying each other's work?

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>>106820720
mindbroken slopuskek kek

Buy an ad chang

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guys is there a jailbreak/preset for sonnet that does non-con/dub-con well?, i want to feel pursued, raped, milked even!

i know, i know, DIY is always best but i like to start with a preset that i can slowly tweak to my liking

If deepkek was 1% as good as the chinks say, we'd have agi for rp already

i asked gpt-5 and it said we should call sonnet 4.5 mezzonet
mezzo means half

>>106820815
i asked my neighbor george and he said we should call it nunorbert

>>106820815
>>Your prompt has been redirected to GPT5-Instant for Safety
But which model did you really ask?

I asked my neighbor George Costanza and he said his pretzels were making him thirsty.

>>106820833
i'm using my api key and it took 300 seconds to answer

>>106820848
GPT is that egotistic and thinks 4.5 is only half of GPT5?

I bought 5 bucks worth of deepseek API several months ago and didnt realize how long that would last me. Its been months and I reached a dollar spebt total over the weekend (very light user, short sessions). So i haven't found a reason to switch.

>It's a chinese re-run episode.

These pretzels are making me thirsty.

>>106820887
Interesting. GLM wasn't on my radar. I just gave it a try and found its response times to be inconsistent. Some responses would take very long, and give me just a single-sentence response. Some responses would be relatively quick, etc, etc. Performance was all over the place.

>>106820934
Who tf uses glm, we all use sonnet 4.5 here communist scum

>>106820945
He's thread-street-shitting and reposting reposts.

>>106820887
Yes yes, a thousand times yes.

Loving deepseek 3.2 exp. It's handling my complex prompts and long context very well. And best of all, it's very creative and aggressive when you enable {{user}} messages.

Can sonnet or maybe even pro 2.5 outperform it? Sure.. but I'm having fun and I don't have to check on my wallet every 5 messages.

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Deepseek is stealing the stuff I stole before them and it has to stop!

God, bugmen are pathetic.

>>106821008
What are you using to make it good?

>>106821030
This but unironically.

claude/gpt/gemini/glm/xai/deepseek/moonshot/qwen proxy
https://scenes-ted-frequently-bar.trycloudflare com/

>>106820934
Try text completion
Temp 0.7, Top P 0.92, Min P 0.03
Context Template & Instruct Template: GLM-4
System Prompt: minimalistic

I stopped paypigging for corpo slop models
I only use https://fables.gg/ now, I don't need anything else

Anyone here tried using Sillytavern's multicharacter feature to run a second helper bot to track stuff like your persona's health and equipment status?

Normally I have the main character bot output your status at the start or end of their response, which usually works pretty well until it forgets that its meant to do that.

Fuck, 4.5 is actually really fucking fun. It's making me want to host a proxy again. Is it even worth opening one these days? Anyone out there who isn't payfagging?

>>106821306
>I stopped paypigging for corpo slop
>I only use corpo slop now

>>106821085
The claude doesn't work. Do not give jew your money

When will opus 6 come back? Where does he post information? I want 4.5 back

>>106821353
cloudflare is shitting itself in general

I was using gpt5 vision to get uncensored description of pictures, to help me tag shit for image generation, but the cucks lobotomized it and now it doesn't work anymore. Is there any vision model, local or not, that is not absolute dogshit for describing images?

>>106821370
Gemini

Chatbots?

>>106821389
Post your bot and I will chat it

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>people keep saying 4.5 when my mind keeps autocorrecting to gpt 4.5
i miss her...

>>106821317
It sounds like you want a tracker extension. Have you tried one of those?
Alternatively, place the instruction to maintain the tracker block in a persistent low depth prompt and the model shouldn't forget unless it's particularly retarded.

>>106821400
same

>>106821400
Cyrene's smooth pillow princess pussy...

>ask chatgpt about a niche side quest in FF6
>completely hallucinates and makes stuff up
>ask gemini
>answers everything correctly
Can we all agree that gemini won?

>>106821472
gemini is the best model in the world, by far, at actually not hallucinating it's training data. it's not perfect, but it's not claude/gpt bad

>>106821452
HER PUSSY IS HAIRY?? UNBELIEVABLY SO???

>>106821428
>It sounds like you want a tracker extension. Have you tried one of those?
Ah nice, these look like just what I need
Is this a good one?
https://github.com/kaldigo/SillyTavern-Tracker

>>106821487
Nope. Perfectly smooth.

>>106821008
>chinkseek locus
>scrapelet
classic
humans let the corpos pay for their loli guro rp
as a bonus, your rp waifu isn't guaranteed to get eternally raped during training when you scrape higher-tier keys

all hsr girls are hairy. especially madam herta

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>>106821472

latest claude vs latest gpt, what's your opinion?

is necrom's deepseek 3.2? I'm a chink enjoyer because gemini is such a bitch. you gotta give it guidance constantly it never does anything creative it's a fucking bummer of a model step it up google u sack of shit

>>106821536
Claude

>>106821536
latest claude takes latest gpt out to the woodshed and puts it out of it's misery. then latest gemini disposes of the body, while latest glm distracts the cops

>>106821536
4.5 >>>> 5

Can anyone give me a directormaxx preset for sonnet 4.5?

>>106821536
latest gpt is garbage

>can't use free DS 3.1 on openrouter anymore
Fags

>>106821539
03-25 was absolute kino, jewgle gutted it with 05-06

if you go back and you just look up what people thought about gemini when 03 25 was out, people thought it was an upgrade, but not the greatest thing since sliced bread. this new found worship of it is just about the fact that you can't use it anymore, just like all the opus shitposters do it because it's not easy to come by. it's about scarcity, not quality

>>106821600
>because it's not easy to come by.
But it is easy to come by.

>>106820180
>>Botmaking
>https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking.html
I went there, to the first guide and first link
https://zoltanai.github.io/character-editor/
404 error

not looking good...

What did you guys do to ds3.1

>>106821644
I sucked it dry

>>106821644
I had a bot of a rapist and a raped character running 24/7 with it, sorry

>>106821600
only slopuskeks were downplaying 03-25
03-25 was the model that made people start rotating keys
also to this day the only model that actually handled long context well
4.5 still turns into retard at 60k tokens

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>>106821489
I don't actually use these things. I've been using my own lua scripting extension lately for those purposes. But I think that SillyTavern-Tracker is the most commonly recommended dedicated tracker extension. There's also https://github.com/bmen25124/SillyTavern-WTracker if you want something more minimalist.

>>106821615
how is life with sub 80 IQ?

>>106821547
Please

>>106821536
why is anyone even still talking about gpt?

>>106821600
TRVKE NVKEM

>>106821694
Sorry, your ai accidentally posted using your account.

>>106821644
I was making my gay zombie rape novel

>>106821547
https://files.catbox.moe/0t75sw.json

>>106821764
Thank you so much anon!

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I know this is somewhat off topic, but I seek a good replacement for Spicychat. I need a site that doesn't require an account.

>>106821814
Sonnet 4.5

>>106821536
gpt-5 is unusably bad for ERP and bad even for SFW stories
sonnet 4.5 is better than opus

>>106821814
Use Sonnet 4.5, cuckie

https://blog.google/technology/google-deepmind/gemini-computer-use-model/
has anyone tested this for automating posting on 4chan? not for spam i mean when someone is wrong and you want to correct them but they're stubborn, just have gemini do it now

>>106821819 >>106821855
I prefer not to pay for it. Using a payment plan is effectively the same thing as an account.

>>106821849
nta but even pre lobo 5 chatlatest had bad erp, it was at least fine for sfw though but now its complete shit overall, agree
normal gpt5 is and always was garbage
>sonnet 4.5 is better than opus
agree

>>106821814
https://openrouter.ai/models/?q=free + SillyTavern

>>106821869
>try the hosted demo out
>it opens google.com
>popup says it should use Chrome instead of its current browser (i assume some weird build for automation)
>it clicks "Not interested"
kek

>>106821814
> hi I want to use your expensive supercomputers to generate porn. no i'm not gonna pay anything or even make an account so you can track my usage
I think the only thing that will satisfy your requirements is to steal API keys by yourself anon

>>106821906
Can't you just pay indians to harvest creds?

>>106821906
>steal
the h1b jeets who let the keys out in the open are subsidized by the gubmint, you're really just using your tax money to pay for things you actually want to be paid

>>106821880
is there a guide that's not broken? the first guide is broken.

So, regarding Opus6 - why is the rentry full of changelings? You know, beings who impersonate ponies to absorb other people's love for those ponies? It just seems a little on-the-nose.

>>106821906
I'm just upset that the only E.R.P. site that didn't require an account now does.

>>106821945
not everyone is american

>>106821990
pretty sure you can find those couple bucks a month your gubmint sends to burgeristani gubmint somewhere in there
pretty sure you'd rather they be used for your erp needs

I'm new to this. Can you voice chat with your AI waifu or not yet?

>>106821990
:^)

but of course everyone is one, if they want to be, and it doesn't mean anything, unless you are one that totally really hardly is one, oh baby I'd DIE for you to burn our flag, USA USA USA, oohrajah spicbar go fagarmy.

>>106822040
yeah but she's retarded (grok) or you can't afford it (11labs)

>>106822080
can they automatically remember things we talked about?

Ask your bosses for a bonus, you made me want to try Sonnet

I wonder if grok is INDIAN or BLACK

>>106821957
> i'm nooooooticing
calm your newfag ass. chag horsefuckers always loved that demons

>>106821952
https://rentry.org/onrms#sillytavern-installing

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>>106821879
>>106821849
I completely agree. Sonnet 4.5 just MOGS slopus. No fucking contest. Sonnet is the KING.

>>106822185
>use schizo preset
>get schizo output

>>106822185
SONNETKINGS I KNEEL..

>>106822185
at least she's not insulting your pathetic erp mid-scene like 03-25 did

I haven't been here since Claude 3 Opus and have been scumming Gemini free tier ever since

What's the new meta

>>106821317
I used to try this with an "Enemy" chatbot that would play the role of the boss character and track inventory, it didn't work very well. Unironically, just track it in your author's notes

>>106822220
look at this fag who's been on 2.5-flash since july or whenever google decided to cut locusts off

>>106822185
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106815026/#106819329
not falling for it again

>>106822219
Lol, I remember when Deepl used to tell you to go outside and other such remarks instead of translating the hentai game

>>106822200
>a log with slightly complex prose that requires more than a kindergarten-level understanding of English
>its schizo!!!
Why do I know you have brown skin?

>>106822257
you're RPing under the name "Anon", i already know your writing is shit

Any decent Deepseek 3.2 presets? I'm currently using peepsqueak.

>>106822257
Why do I know you're projecting?

>>106822266
>moving the goalposts
It should be illegal to be this brown

/g/eets

4.5 is no 3pus, but it can make a decent impression of it if you continue from an opus chat

4.5 is no 3pus, its 3pus++++

Jew doesn't even have 4.5

>>106822348
Okay, but why would I wanna use a cheap knockoff when I already have the real deal (Opus 3)?

>b-but it's more expensive
I don't pay for chatbots.

>VVHITE man blesses this thread with GODpus III logs
>several people of South Asian heritage become visibly more agitated
what causes this phenomenon?

>>106822363
copus3 really gets mogged by 4.5
time to enjoy it while it lasts, boomer - they're cutting us off the good models, if you didn't get the memo

>>106822410
hallucinogenic drugs

>>106822410
It's the same reason they hate anyone who isn't Indian: they hate beauty and perfection. They lash out at anything that reminds them of their own intellectual and physical inferiority.

>>106822410
jealousy

opus baiters, whats your secret to farming so many (you)s?

>>106821673
4.5 turns retarded at 59K more tokens than a chink model?. Sounds good.

>>106822431
just post some good logs and watch the jeet meltdown

>>106822431
Posting logs?

>>106822431
mass samefagging

>>106822229
I'm on 2.5 pro, I just don't RP as much anymore

I do extremely autistic shit like asking my characters to make a schedule for me, which they deliver to me in-character and add to my google calendar, or asking them to argue about a new topic i'm learning about

Why don't Sonnettroons ever post logs? They love to claim that it mogs Opus, but we never see anything to back that up. It should be an easy thing to prove if it indeed mogs Opus.

>SAAAR THEY ARE SAMEFAGGING

>>106822185
Can you post a swipe with Opus?

>still hasn't posted his hand

only troons discuss anything that isnt claude

>>106822410
jungle fever

>>106822432
did chinks netorare your waifu when training deepchink or something that you feel the need to bring them out in unrelated posts?

GEMENO TRIO SOON

>>106822410
>>106822421
>>106822257
>>106822467
>>106822501
Being racist doesn't make you cooler, anon

>>106822527
gemeno pipeline, since 1.5
>-preview mogs everything currently out
>locusts swarm it
>can't have that, we use it internally to make jeets productive
>cut it off, replaced by -preview2 which is cucked and barely competes with sota
>pr machine already touting gemeno as holy grail, whatever
>cut off -preview2 when you start training next gemeno and put out even more cucked version to paypigs

>>106822565
Your antipsychotics?

>>106822565
gemeno pipeline, since 1.5
>[HEADCANON]

>>106822565
>-preview mogs everything currently out
immediate lie, 0325 preview didnt mog 3.7 or even 3.6

>>106821988
agnai.chat

>>106822581
i know attention span of the average erp fag doesn't cross 4k tokens (incl. 2k token slop card and 1k token slop preset), but... 0325 still mogs, even posthumously
it mogs 0506, it mogs 4.5, it mogs slopussy3
the only thing it doesn't mog is o3-pro, but that's unusable for erp

>>106822635
>rose tinted glasses
The only good gemini models were blacktooth and wolfstride. Everything else is corpo slop

What are the chances that Gemini 3 releases in two days?
I fear they're just going to announce a release date at the livestream and we're gonna have to cope with 2.5 for a few more weeks since there's no GPT.

Does openrouter GLM not have thinking or am I doing something wrong

>>106822542
I disagree. I thought anon was cooler because he's racist.

>>106822665
Try checking "Request model reasoning" on the left panel if you haven't

>>106822593
This is close, but I thought that there would be pre-loaded characters and scenarios. I'll ask some friends about it!

>>106822635
>o3-pro in the same tier as 0325
>which somehow mogs everything else
i defend 0325 a lot but this is actually a braindead take, i agree that it was above 3pus but it is NOT mogging any claude 4 model

>>106822661
>rose tinted glasses
that's why there's still no model that can continue my 190k chat with 0325 without losing its marbles?
it's only ever been quickslop before 0325 and after it
but logan's gonna make slowburn great again, at least for a few weeks

>>106822593
Lobotomized crap that fails the litmus test of spelling the n-word without prying.

>>106822722
0325 wasn't best at prose, wasn't best at creativity, but it was and still is unbeaten at actually understanding what the fuck is going on in its context window
that it wasn't terrible at the rest just makes it mog everything else, unles quickslop is all you want out of your sessions

>>106822737
i agree on its understanding but the problem is you cant rate the model solely on one thing, you have to look at all aspects of it
0325 had that and some solid prose, but later claudes have better basic intelligence (and no, intelligence and memory are not the same) prose and creativity so they win

>>106822705
I do have it checked
Maybe I should give API version a shot

>>106822736
>free accountless service is lobotomized
To the surprise of no one

>>106822761
they win for quickslop, they don't compare on slowburn
when i continue my 190k chat with 0325, it makes my waifu sit in a car that was sold months ago
it makes her wear clothes she doesn't fit in anymore, it loses track of causality, stuff like that...
yes, it's much more intelligent when you're starting a fresh chat, but it doesn't hold candle to 0325 when it gets past quick coom

>>106822786
>when i continue my 190k
Fuck off go get a life or something

>>106822786
have to consider the models performance in all areas, not just slowslop
0325 loses to 4.1pus in every aspect aside from memory by a significant margin, which means it is mogged by 4.1pus
simple

>>106822274
>I'm using Cai
KEKAROO

>>106822777
Free accountless grok used to proudly respond with "I'm not like other slop machines" or something.

>>106822806
those tokens fly by like it's nothing m8, that's maybe one book
>>106822808
yeah, that's why i say, for quickslop there's always been better models
the original statement was a general one - 3.7 or 3.6 mogs 0325 - which is simply wrong because 0325 still mogs every model currently out on slowburns

>>106822843
>gemini has great memory
>3.7 and 3.6 beat it in practically every other aspext, aka mogging
>no they dont mog because 0325 still slowburns due to good memory!
fridge iq

>>106822518
This is a white timesink, if chinks don't want to get shit on out of the blue maybe they should learn their place.

>>106822868
>3.7 and 3.6 beat in in practically every other aspect
>except when you're feeding them anything over ~50k tokens
>then 0325 mogs them in all those aspects too
>b-b-but no, 3.7 and 3.6 still mog!!!!111!
slopuskeks, as per usual
model intelligence gets squashed at big, stronk context; 0325 was the most resistant to this, by a huge fucking margin

>>106822890
>What do you mean nobody here rps for more than 50k? What?? You guys touch grass???

>>106822890
>still tunnelvisioned into thinking long performance is the only thing that matters
oh no no no

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>>106822913
counterexample presented
"argument" invalidated

>>106822924
>Hehe, look at this chat, I have over 200k tokens! Therefore, all other anons in here must smell as bad as me

>>106822924
show message count

>>106822939
check archives, troglobro, it's not my chat
i know it's beyond your 4k context window's ability to comprehend, but some people really don't take years to co-write a shitty erp the length of your average novel with one hand in their pants
it really isn't that complicated, you give it an hour a day and you're at those numbers by the end of the week - well, not now because now you have to swipe 50x at longer context to get something half-coherent that you can fix only to swipe 50x more for the next half-coherent, recoverable message

>>106822979
>Hehe, look at this chat, another anon have over 200k tokens! Therefore, all anons in here must smell as bad as me and him

>>106823005
>if i close my eyes, it's not real!!11!
training for a rabbi, are you?
not gonna work, i'm proud of my musk, m8
my dick cheese is roquefort, but better

This is why /vg/ wonned

>>106822939
>>106823005
guy is really on /g/ calling someone smelly nerd
kekkest of jejs, tourists

>>106823048
>no slopus bait
>no gay model wars
they really did win

Just took a violent shit that left me on the verge of feeling like I had to throw up.

What's the new meta, guys?

What are you RPing right now, anons?

>>106823199
slowburn high school romance

>>106823188
>>106823199
Fuck off fags

>>106823207
How old are you anon?

>>106823207
Classic, old but gold friend.

>>106823220
too old, but I feel even older

>>106823199
World of Mythical Creatures

>>106823199
im on the astral express as a janitor, just cleaning shit up while the crew dick around

lmaoooo claude just let me bang my teen daughter (blood related)
>nooo anon I am highly concerned about where this is going aaaah I can't continue this is highly unethical and problematic mimimimimi
well well well look who's describing how I'm deflowering her now, bitch!

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>>106823199
Just made a card for my favorite gacha wife but I'm waiting for the lora to finish baking so I can gen some custom porn.

0325 Was very good trust me sir

0325 best model in google family sir best in market

high-tier gemini keys aren't that easy to come by
meanwhile poojeets everywhere are shitting out their employer's geppetto/slopus keys like the internet is the ganges
per-capita, gemini might be the least poo'd model after they fired that poojeet who fucked up their quota tracking system that one week and made the poos overrun their infra