Why would they do this? I just want a normal fucking full keyboard. I don't want lights, I don't want rainbow, I don't need it to look amazing I just need a full keyboard with nice switches, why is that so hard to find?Recommend a full size 104 key switched keyboards pls.
>>106822906wait you're saying you were retarded enough to buy this then complain about it?
>>106822920yes I was focused on the numpad and other key positions and comparing a half dozen keyboards.
>>106822906>I don't want lights, I don't want rainbowleave them off?
>>106814784Sorry that I missed your post before the last thread died. But if you ever make your way ITT, anon, here's a pic of my board with the MTNU keycaps that you wanted.
does this keyboard exist >ergonomic split setup >trackpoint>compact but has number pad and keys you would want for coding >easy to travel with >completely wireless I will pay any amount of money for this.
>>106823078commodore 64 aesthetics, nice>>106823053meaning idgaf but that's what they highlight. what I need to know is like can I rearrange the editing keys to be correct on this keyboard?
>>106823097I mean I can't even tell if it's AI bullshit or they're actually mixed up
>>106822906since when are you ever actually going to use those keys
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>>106823169pgup and pgdn for readinghome and end when editing or codingdel has a very different function than backspace in blenderins is for when you accidentally hit ins beforeprintscreen I use constantly for screenshots both for projects and directions but also just to translate anime or capture something funny. or like for example taking screen shots of fucked up keyboard designs to post on a cambodian intersex web exchange.
>>106823230not awful. I kinda wish there was something between jackhammer and mousefart but it looks good.
>>106822906Get a leopold FC900R.
>>106823693Seconding this if any employed heterosexual males ITT are looking for a good fullsize kb. Had mine for 5 years and it's still going strong.
>>106823723Got one as an xmas gift for my mom a while ago, she likes it :)
so buy a fullsize keyboard ???? There are plenty of wired options without RGB for under $200
>>106823816If you don't need wireless, there's lots of fine options around or under $100 as well, even if you want remapping and hotswap sockets. Most will have RGB, but just turn it off pussy.
>>106823169I use del all the time, pgUp/Dn when I'm reading a long webpage, Home and End I usually rebind to do something when I'm playing modded Minecraft, I don't think I've ever used insert tho
>>106824169NTA but I don't use Insert, Scroll Lock, or Pause, so I'm happy to remap that top trio of keys to volume keys, and moving Print Screen (which I actually DO use) down to where Insert ordinarily is. I do have the original keys mapped as layers in the incredibly unlikely event I need them.t. >>106823078
>>106822906have you tried using the internet for this?>google search: "plain full sized keyboard">first resulthttps://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-c2-wired-mechanical-keyboard?variant=39767325376601&country=US¤cy=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&tw_source=google&tw_adid=&tw_campaign=19681081342&tw_kwdid=&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=19681104649&gbraid=0AAAAABen0LdRTStdws_CtiqpXquTMnWJz&gclid=Cj0KCQjw9JLHBhC-ARIsAK4PhcrY4Qbr-rvYEZ4W1x-xjY0Pmc1-LcFgfoqVq6jjBdD8pwZFKMO2nfcaAs91EALw_wcB
>>106823096get a moonlander and mog all your coworkers
>>106823169i use them pretty often
>>106823078thanks anon. looks good
>>106823169I use prt sc for screenshots and scr lk for video capture. insert stops the video capture. home/end/pg up/pg down useful for editing files. I think pause is the only one not used atm but will probably bind it to some commands I usually use.
>>106825189you've been making a lot of these for a long time. have you ever considered upgrading to more consumer grade materials than 3D printed shit?
>>106823416>ins is for when you accidentally hit ins beforeThis is perfect.
>>106825189why don't you process you case anon? put some work into it. use some plaster and sanding paper and some fucking paint.
>>106822906ENTER
>>106825787CNC milled metal cases would be eye-wateringly expensive (a few thousand dollars). Injection molds would be orders of magnitude more expensive than that. There's nothing wrong with 3D printed cases, so why would I bother when the other manufacturing methods would either be far less flexible, far more expensive, or both?>>106825842Ask the anon who did that how much of a pain in the ass sanding & painting PLA is. There's no reasonable amount of money I could charge that could justify me doing it. Nevermind that I have some pretty filaments anyway.
>>106824051eh all the 120 dollar options are now well over 150 due to h1b dons tariffs
Get a Unicomp. If you're not a man enough, then just get >>106825862 and quit whining.
>>106825862Uniform modifier keys (keys to swap menu and right ctrl), and cheap.Perfection.
>>106826105Keyd* to swap menu and ctrl
qmk don't support hall effect analog bit? for keychron q series
>>106822906IBMMOTHERFUCKINGMODELM
>>106825968Does it really feel much better than a flat split?
>>106822906so just buy a random microsoft/dell or whatever keyboard, are you retarded?
Are there any guides to mechanical keyboard?It's really confusing to get started
>>106822906Realforce
>>106824477where's the scroll lock button son?
>>106827719https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Aybs7BIXgVM?feature=share
>>106822906Anon I am a simple man and I bought a Keychron C2 and it's fine I like it and I am happy it cost $40
>>106827783If it weren't for their lack of ISO layouts, I would have one by now.
>>106828140>$40>£87 in the UKloool fuck that
>>106822906In my view, the best solution to the numpad problem is picrel. It uses the NumLock key to switch between the regular keys and number keys. Shame it's not a very good keyboard in other ways.But if you want an actual full size kb, Keychron makes a few, like the V6.
>>106830172Hey, i have that board, except ISO and with brown switches & white leds>Shame it's not a very good keyboard in other ways.What ways? It prints characters on the screen upon keypress...
>>106822906>Recommend a full size 104 key switched keyboards pls.Keychron V6 Max for me. Not bought it but wishlisted. Hotswap is a must, I almost killed my current keyboard by washing it with water and soap. Enter still doesn't press reliably. Also radio/USB-C.
>>106827054Yea I think so. I tried my old ergodox some time after switching to a dactyl and it felt weird how far the rows were from one another. For what it's worth I wouldn't want to switch back to a flat board.
>>106830202>What ways? It prints characters on the screen upon keypress...I still have one too as a backup keyboard. Maybe I worded my post poorly... it's not a bad device, it's just that standards have risen since it was released. For example, I prefer using my Keychron V3, despite the inferior layout, because it's a nicer keyboard in various little ways. The keycap plastic is more pleasant to the touch and more resistant to shine; the stabilizers are tighter; the sound is nicer; the keys move more smoothly.
>>106825985Wrong.
>>106830172>>106830172>Realforceah but see that's bastardizing the real secondary functions of the keypad with numlock off as pictured. it already duplicates those functions, at least a "correct" one (e.g. the model M)sorry in advance for being a disgusting pig
I got the Corsair K70 PRO TKL today (Magnetic Hall Effect switches) and I have no idea what is the point of the magnetic thing. It's infuriating that it is missing the Scroll lock, pause break and print screen cluster and I didn't notice earlier. Why is it so difficult to get a proper TKL design? the premise is that you dont miss any keys
>>106830202when you write or program for hours little things like feel and sound matter. faggot shit like lights and fakey blank keys don't. it goes back to navigation too, not taking your hands off the keyboard and yet being able to navigate the text or code is ergonomically superior to reaching out for the mouse like a caveman. it doesn't matter when you're a doomscrolling shitposting kid but when you're doing actual real work those little things add up.
>>106830848I see.>>106831197Relax, fagmo.
>>106825968and what about lost wax casting?
>>106831758Would have to 3D print the case to create the mold in the first place, at which point I might as well just use the 3D print. Nevermind the other tools & post processing steps required.
>>106826063sell me on picrel what makes it so good?
>>106832221Nothing, the factory making them has zero quality control, you legitimately get better fitment and build quality buying a reddragon and swapping out the caps for cheapest PBT doubleshot caps available.
>>106822906I don't know, man. If you want a full keyboard just get a full keyboard.
>>106832292why? what's so good about reddragon? is it for gaming only? can long hours codefag benefit?
>>106832341it's just a cheap brand that's widely available, they're fine, if cheap and plasticky feeling, the price matches the build quality, unicomps are genuinely awful.
>>106832348thanks
anybody know of any good 40% that is actually purchasable?
>>106830202The first keyboard I returned on this journey was a red dragon mechanical. The left shift key had no click and only went halfway down. I would rather have bamboo shoved under my fingernails then endure that for more than a minute.
ansi layout is a fucking travestyiso is where it at
>>106830172The best solution to the numpad is to move it to the left, if you're right-handed and as such have a mouse on the right. This is quite rare in keyboards, but it's very easily achievable by just buying a regular tenkeyless keyboard and a separate numpad.
>>106831189>I have no idea what is the point of the magnetic thingMaybe it's supposed to be more reliable long-term? I don't see why you'd care at all what the actuation mechanism on the switch is, as long as it works reliably for a long time (and mechanical switches already seem to do that).
>>106832761this is definitely a thing in scroll wheels and joycons. magnetic last forever mechanical lead to sticky/reverse wheel and stick drift in short order. I've never had mechanical keys wear out or fail, even after the letters wear off so idk if it's really worthwhile on key switches.
This guy finally came inActually kinda disappointed by itIts solid af and the popcorn popping type sound is niceBut the typing angle is so damn steep
>>106832779I don't even know of any scroll wheel designs which aren't optical. I guess there might be some out there but I was under the impression that optical detection on scroll wheels was standard (which still stops working eventually due to dust & gunk building up in the slots the light passes through).With analog sticks the problem is a bit different I believe. The "standard" design there is to just use potentiometers there, so you have a contact point sliding across some resistive surface, in order to read the voltage change which results from different positions. This can obviously wear out eventually. Keyboard switches though are far simpler usually, I mean typical mechanical switches just require 2 pieces of metal to touch, reliability isn't often a concern, at least not in my experience.
>>106831197Actually, it doesn't matter at all and those little things add up to nothing in reality. Nobody has ever missed a deadline or been unable to finish a programming task because of their keyboard. Ergonomics only matter to people with weak genetics, it's irrelevant unless you are born weak.
>>106832834So sayeth the stupid who care nothing for efficiency.
>>106832834Let me guess, you consider "enjoying your work" weak too
>>106832852productive people aren't limited by their keyboard or even their typing speed, a 100 wpm typist is not able to compose prose at the same speed.
>>106832866dunning-krueger much?
>>106832866You're clearly not as productive as you think if you haven't been limited by a sub-par keyboard.
>>106832866this post just made me want to use carpalx or colemak with a passion
>spent all afternoon looking at keyboards and keycap sets againi only have one computerI don't even dislike my current keyboardWhy don't they sell individual keycaps, I just want a PBT cherry escape or enter key in this color
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>>106832796
>Split ergonomic design>100% keys>Future proof HE/TMR switches>Trackball either included or can fit nicely in the middle>Programmable without proprietary garbage softwareDoes this keyboard exist?
My new troon-sized keyboard I put together today.To the anon who recommended Swagkey Knight V4 stabs, if he's here, I'll agree they're very good—with the caveat that he did a little overstate how good they are. I used some C3Equalz pads underneath because I decided to do a build with my Lichix silent switches to see if I could get away with it this time, and I think I did. At first I tried without the pads and the stabs slammed into the PCB (same as Cherry), so that wasn't going to work for a silent build. This was my first time using this and it helped a lot: https://swagkeys.com/products/c-equalz-stabilizers-soulmate (only used pieces 1 and 3)I'm probably going to use those on all my builds from now on.I did have to fill the stabs up with superlube like I would with Cherry clip-ins, but these are still a bit nicer, with a thicker wire that's properly straight and doesn't touch the PCB, no need to clip off any bottom feet, and the clear plastic makes it easier to see lube inside. A genuine improvement I think, but it doesn't solve the stab problem in general.Hard to say whether this would sound good with normal switches, but I suspect that it would. The Lichix silent is not totally silent, you can still hear the character of the board a little bit. Still waiting for the battery to arrive from China, so can't say anything about the bluetooth performance. Overall I'm happy with this little board. Also the reason left shift looks a little fucked up in the image is that it wasn't quite all the way down on the stabilizer. I checked just now while looking at the image. Oops.Final build:Cannonkeys Photon, recommended 8 gasket config (4 above, 4 below) with the lower-left cut in half so it's not too close to the spacebarLichix Raw Silent big-bump tactile (stock)Swagkeys Knight V4 Stabilizers with 0.2mm C3Equalz foam pad underneath the stem, stems and housing contact lubed with 205g0 and otherwise filled with Super Lube 21010XMI dye-sub keycaps (L9 Apple)
>>106833396>mac
>>106833396very ugly, why did you do it?
>>106827054imo no, I prefer flat with tentingthe angled thumb cluster is better than a flat thumb cluster thoughbeit
>>106833453post keyboard
>>106833096Yes the typing angle is so steep on this thing there is a sheer cliff fall off on the number rowAbsolutely disappointed
>>106825862May as well pair with the 1000 dpi beast m90 mouse to complete the combo.
I miss WASD Keyboards (the manufacturer)
>>106832221It is so obnoxiously loud that you won't be invited to any zoom meetings anymore.
